Kyiv

[TheGuyFromNY]

Can anybody tell me a get place in Cherkassy ? I am looking for something like resttown

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by her555
thnks Kievman for yoer info.
i try www.prosex.com.ua but isee only ukrine not english. so i can not see nating
olso meby u now how can i leren the ukrine ?
thnks agin

Try to call this girl in Kiev
http://www.prosex.com.ua/love/show2.php?id=78
She can speak english, and she can help you. Maybe, with another girls. Her name is Karina, phone for now 237-3072 (in Kiev), but you can write e-mail also.

But english on the site too, man.

[Her555]

thnks Kievman for yoer info.
i try www.prosex.com.ua but isee only ukrine not english. so i can not see nating
olso meby u now how can i leren the ukrine ?
thnks agin

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by her555
hy Kievman
i will be in kiev next muont, in daiprp hotel.
i am loking for a sexi girl, escort's' or escort' comp. mybe u can halp me'
i can not ukrine only engilis
thnks

Try it here: http://www.prosex.com.ua/sex/main.php

I'm just updated "escort" directory of prosex.com.ua, so now some navigation there in english, too.
Click "details", so you can find picture/phone inside.

[Her555]

hy Kievman
i will be in kiev next muont, in daiprp hotel.
i am loking for a sexi girl, escort's' or escort' comp. mybe u can halp me'
i can not ukrine only engilis
thnks

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by swanhunter
Hi

Need some local adivse. Anyone care to recommend a good strip club/bar in Kiev. I'd prefer somewhere without too much hassle, good beer for happy evening viewing. And maybe with the chance to take someone home at the end of the night?

cheers!

Absolutely you have all chances!
I do not like striptease, so don't know any strip-bars.
But about straight clubs/bars in Kiev can tell more, then anybody

At first, I recommend to check out Eric's bars. Eric is a guy from Germany, living in Kiev and he did GREAT network of GREAT bars.
I never seen something like it. I'ts really european places, in our "asian" city.

You can talk to Eric, and ask about traditions, places and prices in Kiev. I don't mean girls, but may be he can answer something about them. You'll really like this man.

If you want to check out other places - you will need a attendant from here, so you will not have a troubles and lose much more money.

[swanhunter]

Hi

Need some local adivse. Anyone care to recommend a good strip club/bar in Kiev. I'd prefer somewhere without too much hassle, good beer for happy evening viewing. And maybe with the chance to take someone home at the end of the night?

cheers!

[beorning]

Thanks for your reply kievman, I first read it yesterday because I forgot about my post! To explain 'tourist traps': in America where I'm from there are places that charge high prices and are marketed to tourists. Consequently the locals don't frequent them much. I expect that there will be places in Ukraine that as an obvious foreigner I will be subject to higher prices than locals think reasonable or pay themselves.

My goal, as a typical greedy american pennypincher, will be to pay local prices, not tourist prices .

Also, what's a good place to look for personal accounts of emigration to Ukraine (or other former SB countries), other than escapeartist?

Where is a good english speaking forum about Ukraine?

In short, where do i find inside info on the internet about everything in Ukraine? By "inside info" I mean real information, not western governmental/corporate media and not Ukrainian governmental/corporate data.

Can foreigners really buy land in Ukraine? I just want to buy a few acres of land in a rural area that i can plunk a well onto and retire .

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by TRL
Kievman,

Thanks for the info on Ivano-Frankivsk. On another note, what do you think of the Ukraine/Russian 'meet your girl' sites. Are they for real or a scam?

Also, are Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog big cities? How much would hotels/apartments cost in these places? Are there any special rates if you stay like 1 month or longer? How are the girls in this city?

Are you a native Ukrainian? You live in Kiev? Do finance qualified people get alot of income in Kiev?

Ok, man, here is a some absolutely REAL links:

the biggest in Ukraine
http://www.kievsex.com/ads/index.php...wse&ratedads=1
another one:
http://www.prosex.com.ua/sex/main.php

Dnepropetrovsk is a big city, girls are the same in all ukrainian cities

I'm russian, but live in Kiev.
If you can get a job in your country, and your company send you to Ukraine - you will live here like a king.
About jobs here? It exist.

[TRL]

Kievman,

Thanks for the info on Ivano-Frankivsk. On another note, what do you think of the Ukraine/Russian 'meet your girl' sites. Are they for real or a scam?

Also, are Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoy Rog big cities? How much would hotels/apartments cost in these places? Are there any special rates if you stay like 1 month or longer? How are the girls in this city?

Are you a native Ukrainian? You live in Kiev? Do finance qualified people get alot of income in Kiev?

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by TRL
About Ivano-Frankivsk,

Where do you find the girls there? Are they like FL's or students?
How much do you usually have to pay?

I understand that it is in the Carpathians. Am I right? Is it a big city, or the countryside of Ukraine?

Please give any info regarding the scene in IF. Thanks in advance.

Ivano-Frankivsk a small city, I never visited it.
But as I know - anywhere in the big world girls love you charm and intillegence, or your money. If you have something of it - you can go there. But! In small cities of ex-USSR can be dangerous at evening and night. So, if you got a girl, better don't go so far from center of city. And without girl too..

About payment.. Me? No fuckin' way! I never pay for it.
But if you want, you can pay in dollars everywhere in Ukraine. Not in shops, but to people for any services. I think in Iv-Frankivsk girl can be about $30-$50 per hour. But if they see, that you are foreigner, they can ask for more. They MAY ask. ))

[TRL]

About Ivano-Frankivsk,

Where do you find the girls there? Are they like FL's or students?
How much do you usually have to pay?

I understand that it is in the Carpathians. Am I right? Is it a big city, or the countryside of Ukraine?

Please give any info regarding the scene in IF. Thanks in advance.

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by beorning
hi kievman,

Im looking to make an extended visit to Ukraine this year. Can you provide info about apartment rental? Im looking for a reasonably priced place for a month or two. Also, do you know where I might find a detailed street map of Kiev? Im also looking for all the same info on Odessa. In fact, any info you could point me to in Ukraine besides the usual tourist traps would be helpful.

thanks

beorning

Hotels in Kiev - $12 - $200
apartments $25-$150 (look here: http://kiev2000.com/shop/apartment.asp )
Maps
here
http://kiev2000.com/mix\map.asp
or here: www.isgeo.kiev.ua (server is down now, but try it later)
About usual tourist traps?
Don't know, cause I don't travel
If you only can explain what you mean..

[beorning]

hi kievman,

Im looking to make an extended visit to Ukraine this year. Can you provide info about apartment rental? Im looking for a reasonably priced place for a month or two. Also, do you know where I might find a detailed street map of Kiev? Im also looking for all the same info on Odessa. In fact, any info you could point me to in Ukraine besides the usual tourist traps would be helpful.

thanks

beorning

[Kiev Man]

Originally posted by snail
from chris in the old unkraine archives

'Generally, a sence of jealous xenophobia does exist, always keep a low profile and avoid overcurious local men (this applies especially to black dudes, recently i saw a "gang" of 50 or 60 teenagers beating up a group of tourists in the middle of Kiev, simply 'cause they are black, and nobody...not even the cops did anything about it). '

caution is always prerequisite when traveling in the former soviet union.

Bullshit!
I live here, but never saw 50 teenagers together. Only with a teacher
Some time ago "skeanheads" attacked jewish church in Kiev. So cops and spetial forces didn't sleep two days, but catch them all! If something happens with citizen of US in the middle of Kiev, some police generals and colonels can have a really big troubles, and they know it.
But after football match Kiev can be a dangerous place (so why I hate this game). And not only for black people. But cops works ok, in any situation...