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[Col Law]

I did a search, and got no returns for this forum.

Any rooms recommended for short time, and the going rate girl/room.

[Redman69]

WR, I think that is great advice about Jealousy, Dragonslayer must have the ability to handle that.

I am like you in that I am not jealous, Never have been. But when dealing with a jealous person and doing the things we do. We, get the well your freind has a bigger dick or is a better kisser thrown in our face. Or the other version of do you think she is good looking? There seems to be no honest answer if she is better looking.

And telling them more than a mouthfull is a waste does not satisfy them or I really like your ass or pussy the best does not work. These are all versions of the trap I end up in.

But I am going to heed your advice and lay the law down on the first day. So, thanks for the good advice.

[Wicked Roger]

The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?

As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).

X

X

You raise a good point about jealousy. I forget how many times I have spoken to girls that jealousy is a nasty negative emotion and not, as they seem to routinely think, a show of love for their mahal (love).

Hence when I find a favourite, I have a long chat about jealousy and explain that I am not jealous....hence seeing her with other guys is perfectly normal for me so threesomes and group are also normal....just 'sex fun'. In the same vein I discuss girl girl and that I maybe (;)) a naughty boy with the girls, so don't be jealous is just 'sex fun'

Once you get this message across (and it can take time and sometimes you will never succeed), life is easier.

Then you only need to worry about the jealousy of her friends/relatives some of who, will try stir it up to make her leave you or vice versa so they can have you.

Wlaking through SM Department storre in makati once with Cbeu favourite was interesting in seeing the girls give her the 'eye' as she was with me shopping....she also noticed a few and said they jealous...so even if you and her are OK other may try to mess up your relationship ...out of jealousy :)

PI is a weird but wonderfully chaotic and corrupt place and I learn more each time I go back.

But HM...watch out for jealousy, deal with swiftly and directly, do not pussy foot around it as Filipians wont understand this, be direct and say stop it or you are out as she will try to wreck everything so she has you to herself....when we start thinking with a little brain then we lose all reasoning with the big one.

Enjoy your adventure

PS X...which of the 2 sisters was the picture of..the newbie that my favourite liked or the more experienced one?

[Hug Monster]

Mr. X,

I forgot to include this answer in the other post. You asked me if the five wife. Search helpers were actual targets, or just facilitators? I had planned on choosing 5 girls who would make for an interesting evening, or a nice GF, just in case one of them likes me as a boyfriend.

[Hug Monster]

I'm surprised no one has really analyzed this one yet.

It sounds crazy, but it also sounds very interesting. In the chat forum people write about how to handle multiple dates in a day (avoid overlaps), and others are either for or against the idea of a chat contact bringing a friend. For the record, I usually allow female friends/ cousins and on several occasions found that the chaperone facilitated the tryst, or in two cases, provided future dates since the original target was unsatisfactory. You seem to be approaching things from a different angle. The more the merrier.

The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?

Rather than make it one week paid employment, you might consider a one day or one evening free dinner. Maybe some extra reward if she introduces you to a winner...although that goes without saying. I can't think of any reason to eat at Jollibee though.

As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).

Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how this strategy works. How long will you be in Philippines for your "search"? X

You asked how long I will be in PI for my wife-search. Well. On my

Initial 3-week trip, I will just be there as a fun vacation, but I plan on moving there two months later and stay for many years. How many ways are there to stay for a long time (years)? Is the only choice to get married, or could I get some type of business visa?

[Kngdf5]

It's an OK idea, but you may end up meeting a lot of sisters and cousins, because the potential long term payoff for them is much greater if you become family. If you give them a large success bonus, they may focus more on the bonus and less on sister/cousins.

Hello, Everyone.

As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.

My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.

I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"

Is this such a crazy idea?

[X Man]

I'm surprised no one has really analyzed this one yet.

It sounds crazy, but it also sounds very interesting. In the chat forum people write about how to handle multiple dates in a day (avoid overlaps), and others are either for or against the idea of a chat contact bringing a friend. For the record, I usually allow female friends/ cousins and on several occasions found that the chaperone facilitated the tryst, or in two cases, provided future dates since the original target was unsatisfactory. You seem to be approaching things from a different angle. The more the merrier.

The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?

Rather than make it one week paid employment, you might consider a one day or one evening free dinner. Maybe some extra reward if she introduces you to a winner...although that goes without saying. I can't think of any reason to eat at Jollibee though.

As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).

Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how this strategy works. How long will you be in Philippines for your "search"? X

SNIP

I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"

Is this such a crazy idea?

[Lopkx]

Hello, Everyone.

As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.

My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.

I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"

Is this such a crazy idea?

I would also suggest using websites like Blossoms and FilipinaHeart to provide you with more options.

[Starchild2012]

I belong to a Foundation that provides eye glasses for the poor and also sponsors Night High School classes for the poorest of the poor in Manila.
The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. My meagre contribution has changed these kids' lives, and that of their families too because it has given them hope. I have met the kids and families on numerous occasions, and it is always very emotional. These kids have got NOTHING going for them without an education - they are desperately poor. I am looking at helping them go on to college if they have the ability and will.

This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way

Very good work...keep up

[ManonsanBoy]

[QUOTE=
The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way[/QUOTE]


Imagine no mongering for a month. God knows how many you can sponser.

[Red Kilt]

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In terms of charity , i agree with GE don't start big projects, just be a generous guy now and then when you see a situation that a small amount of money can make a big difference in the life or someone who has been kind to you or otherwise won favour. Eg a $20 foam battress for a girl who has alwasy had to sleep on a bamboo floor or a 1200P electric fan for someone with no cooling in a stuffy shack.

Excellent advice from GL (and also GE in an earlier post).
I have also spent different periods of time in CdO, Bukidnon and Dumaguete and what has already been said is accurate.

Regarding helping the homeless or the poor.

There are a number of Foundations based in the Phils run by philanthropical expats (who live here) and who ensure EVERY PESO that is donated is actually spent on the poor (not like the larger international groups like World Vision and CARE that take out a fair percentage for "administration costs".

I belong to a Foundation that provides eye glasses for the poor and also sponsors Night High School classes for the poorest of the poor in Manila.
The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. My meagre contribution has changed these kids' lives, and that of their families too because it has given them hope. I have met the kids and families on numerous occasions, and it is always very emotional. These kids have got NOTHING going for them without an education - they are desperately poor. I am looking at helping them go on to college if they have the ability and will.

This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way

[GregLondon]

I think you may have some misconceptions about Valencia and Malaybalay. First, these places are not really any cooler than Davao or CDO. They're either at or just above sea level. Second. as Gertrude Stein said when speaking (I think) about New Jersey, "There's no there there." These are small cities, with few to zero expats, and they don't offer much in the way of things to do. I've passed through Valencia more times than I can count and I've stayed in Malaybalay a few times on business, and I can assure you, though the towns are clean and reasonably pleasant, there is not much going on. These are not great locations (in my opinion) for a foreigner. Bukidnon is not a city at all, but a province in which Valencia and Malaybalay are located. It starts in the town of Buda, just north of Davao, and ends at the CDO city limits.

There are mountains around Buda, and the air is much cooler there, but there aren't any towns to speak of and there are no expats, so it would not be a terribly good location for you.

Whoever suggested that you establish a base in CDO had, I think, a good idea. CDO is an extremely pleasant city and it's large enough to have most and maybe all of the amenities that most foreigners would consider fairly essential to a decent quality of life. It's also got reasonable (though hardly first world) medical facilities if you need them. However, if you think you would like to live in Mindanao, and if proximity to reasonably modern medical facilities is important to you, the only real choice is Davao, with several large teaching hospitals.

You might also want to wait a while before you act on your idea of building cabins for the homeless. For one thing, you cannot purchase land on which to build the cabins, and for another, even if you could overcome this obstacle, you would be overrun by an army of poor people very quickly. It's a noble thought, but if you really want to help, you would probably be much better off working through an established charity or NGO here.

I strongly suggest that before you make any commitments, you come here for a while and get somewhat acclimated to the country and to whatever city you decide to visit.

GE

As ever solid advice from GE. Another place to consider is Dumaguete and the small villages around it. I think some of these villages are set higher up and are a little cooler and just 5-10kms out of town. Dumaguete has a sizeable expat community which in reality is important for most guys who want to have other guys to shoot the breeze with. Dumaguete is itself a short hop from Cebu. Dumaguete isnt such a great mongering destination precisely because there are so many ex pats/open minded girls but if you are looking for a long term wife/companion then there are loads of girls looking for that.

In terms of charity , i agree with GE don't start big projects, just be a generous guy now and then when you see a situation that a small amount of money can make a big difference in the life or someone who has been kind to you or otherwise won favour. Eg a $20 foam battress for a girl who has alwasy had to sleep on a bamboo floor or a 1200P electric fan for someone with no cooling in a stuffy shack.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks Good Enough! I am thinking about moving to Bukidnon, maybe Malaybalay, or Valencia City. I was going to build cabins and give them to any of the homeless up there. I also want to live there because I don't really like warm weather. Is that area safe, because from what I see, it looks pretty good and has almost no pollution!

I think you may have some misconceptions about Valencia and Malaybalay. First, these places are not really any cooler than Davao or CDO. They're either at or just above sea level. Second. as Gertrude Stein said when speaking (I think) about New Jersey, "There's no there there." These are small cities, with few to zero expats, and they don't offer much in the way of things to do. I've passed through Valencia more times than I can count and I've stayed in Malaybalay a few times on business, and I can assure you, though the towns are clean and reasonably pleasant, there is not much going on. These are not great locations (in my opinion) for a foreigner. Bukidnon is not a city at all, but a province in which Valencia and Malaybalay are located. It starts in the town of Buda, just north of Davao, and ends at the CDO city limits.

There are mountains around Buda, and the air is much cooler there, but there aren't any towns to speak of and there are no expats, so it would not be a terribly good location for you.

Whoever suggested that you establish a base in CDO had, I think, a good idea. CDO is an extremely pleasant city and it's large enough to have most and maybe all of the amenities that most foreigners would consider fairly essential to a decent quality of life. It's also got reasonable (though hardly first world) medical facilities if you need them. However, if you think you would like to live in Mindanao, and if proximity to reasonably modern medical facilities is important to you, the only real choice is Davao, with several large teaching hospitals.

You might also want to wait a while before you act on your idea of building cabins for the homeless. For one thing, you cannot purchase land on which to build the cabins, and for another, even if you could overcome this obstacle, you would be overrun by an army of poor people very quickly. It's a noble thought, but if you really want to help, you would probably be much better off working through an established charity or NGO here.

I strongly suggest that before you make any commitments, you come here for a while and get somewhat acclimated to the country and to whatever city you decide to visit.

GE

[Naughty Nigel]

Hi guys,

I just came back from Cebu and have been testing the door policy at various hotels in the five star arena. Just so everyone knows. The five star hotels are all under $100USD per night.

#1. Marco Polo has the most liberal door policy and will not question anyone walking through with you at any hour. Security is good and if a companion comes to your hotel while you are unaccompanied they will be asked for I'd (they can refuse to show) and then be brought to your room by security who will OK the guest w you. No late night policy, no issues, no employees chatting with your guests

#2. Mariott: has been good in the past but a couple months had an incident. It was explained to me by the head of security that an Ameican had a girl in his room that was. Well not supposed to be there. Go figure. Somehow the embassay was involved and things got ugly. Their door policy has since changed. Any girl that looks like she is arriving for more than a spot of tea after 10pm will need to be signed in (no I'd necessarily required). Security here is the tightest in Cebu and it feels like the US embassy in Lebanon.

#3. Waterfront: No worries if you enter before 10pm with your companion. After 10pm the policy becomes draconian. Sign in mandatory. ID mandatory. And you pay and extra $10USD for your guest to join you for tea. The policy is unwavering but they seem to be liberal in terms of what they accept as id. Again. Day time all are allowed in for tea.

#4. Maribago Blue Water: on mactan island and killer place. Staff will chat w your guests if you bring many for tea. Got to a point where I needed to move out. No issues on id, entrance, or timing of guests. Secuirty here is 2nd to mariott with heavily gated area and lots of big dudes looking watch. So far from the city.

[Redman69]

HM, I have family in Valincea and a good friend of mine married my x-sister inlaws best freind's daughter. He 44 and her 22, They live in MD in the US have two kids a boy and a girl and she is a great daughter inlaw to his mother and stepfather. He spent a month there with no problem.

Hiring 5 girls to help does not seem like a good idea to me. I would suggest that you fly into CDO Cagyan Del Oro. Bukindnon is a few hours south from there. I would use CDO as a base and explore the citys you mentioned in Bukindnon.

There is a very good seven day adventist nursing school Called Mountian View in Bukindnon. You might meet so teachers there who could make a wife and nurse together. There are some nursing schools in CDO also. I do not know the names. Good luck.