Kyiv

[Insomniaque]

Hi there,

I have done some work on flirtcomua and here's my little report.

I have worked for about 2 weeks and reviewed about 360 profiles. Have to say I had a lot of surprises; possibly because it's my first try and I need to learn the tricks.

1st surprise, Adriana Lima is in Kiev and she is offering sex for money; and so are Monica Bellucci and Keeley Hazell. Holy shit.

2nd surprise, the astronomical ratio of profiles which get deleted right after having been posted. Out of the 350 profiles I had selected, about 50% were deleted within 24-48h. I would be curious to know how the moderators operate?

Now, the way I see it, profiles can be sorted into 3 categories:

A) explicit: p4p offer written in black and white and/or softcore pics, etc.

B) sponsoring: basically the same as above, but much less straightforward. I guess this is where the semi-pros are lurking.

C) freestyle: everything else

Now my 3rd surprise was regarding the response rates: 25%, 45% and 22% respectively. I expected the rates in (a) and (b) to be much, much higher. Although I am not too bothered with respect to explicit offers, as this is not my primary target. I don't like the way most girls in this category will handle your case. Just giving a phone number, a list of services and a price, and not taking the slightest pain to chit-chat. Okay, well, fuck off then.

I am much more concerned with the girls to sponsor (in the proper sense) I. E the semi-pros. 45% sounds really low to me. I might not be asking the right questions. Anyone to share his techniques?

In the end, here's what I come up with: 3 pure p4p, interesting enough to be kept as a safety net in case the rest fails; 1 girl to sponsor (only one, jesus christ) and a potential freebie (the most interesting one by far). Is that a good harvest?

It may be worth mentioning that I did a search for 18-29 yo chicks, and that I put no pictures on my profile. (I send them to the chicks upon request, by email.)

Feel free to comment on my report, any piece of advice is appreciated!

[Sorbonne]

if you get caught, the local police will beat you to death.

seriously, while the age of consent is "technically" 16, this is still ukraine where laws are decided on a case by case basis by the local police and prosecutor.

in your case, as a foreigner, if you get caught with a 17 year old girl (or even worse, a 16 year old no matter how old she looks or how old she says she is), you might as well then get used to spreading your butt cheeks wide open for the worst of the hardcore criminal elements in kiev jails. i hope you enjoy anal sex - done on you!

they just love stupid foreigners.

if she says she is 16 or 17, my guess is that she is 15 or even younger. ask her for her passport to confirm her age. you are playing with real fire, so do not be stupid and think and act only with that object between your legs.

i hear girls who say they are **** are more likely to be connected with fake cops or corrupt cops.

[Ziggym]

Ziggy. Deserves all the info that old Kiev Hands can dish out.

Just look at the aomunt of research he did here and all the in put he posted from St, p before he even landed in Kiev.

Unlike a lot of the Lazy mongers, who prefer to get the Digits&info via PM, then never to hear from them on here again.

Haha, thanks man. I'm just trying to find my place here. Looks like I'm going on a date with the Azn girl I met my first night at Avalon. It's going to be with my friends and her friends. Taking it slow.

I guess there is just so much pressure when you read all these reports. I mean, if I'm not banging 4 women a night I must be doing it wrong eh?

[Jeankim]

Khreschatyk Street or Opera house area?

Some people said that Opera house area and nearby university is easy to monger. Other said Khreschatyk street.

Which area is the most action going on? For monger.

[Jeankim]

Khreschatyk Street or Opera house area?

Some people said that Opera house area and nearby university is easy to monger. Other said Khreschatyk street.

Which area is the most action going on? For monger.

[Prosal]

there is an almost endless well of intelligent, well educated, professional woman, who are willing to date, dine, dance and ultimately drop their pants for a nice foreigner. Getting them in the sack the first night is of course the objective, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. For me it does not matter much, I love the "game", and as I am there so often now, no problem to cultivate a few, and harvest another few during the weekend.

Right on the money. The endless availability of gorgeous 25/35 yo available (single, divorced or single moms) women to be found in FSU, if you actively seek them out, is literally incredible. More and more I write off the 18/24 yo girls and make of their older sisters my prime target. They are usually all well-educated charm, femininity, fun, and with no or few materialistic expectations. They have usually mentally and physically draining jobs and desperately need some adventure, romance and sex. And they are usually astonishingly horny (some even to nymphomania).

Getting them in the sack the first night is of course the objective, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. For me it does not matter much, I love the "game", and as I am there so often now, no problem to cultivate a few, and harvest another few during the weekend.

We obviously share the same frame of mind. Personally there is nothing I like more in FSU than the conquest of banging one of my target girls after going through "the game". I kind of look at it like a chess game. That's for me what mongering is all about.

Well, ok, I also love vodka-fuelled one-night-stand club sluts.

[Brotherrabitt]

...thanks a lot for the suggestions re "normal" bars. I will check them out next week when I am back in Kyiv.

Ciao

BR

[Uke Boy]

A question to the more experienced, are there any nice "neighbourhood" bars in the centre or Podol (where my apprt is), just to have a beer and a snack, mee the locals sort of.

I live in another part of Kiev and don't know Podol all too well. My recommendation is for you to just walk into any local place and make your own personal inspection. Barring that, a good place that is not "local" as you may want to define it in your area is Arizona BBQ on the river. It is an ex-pat hangout but is definitely not populated by hardcore hookers.

[Jojosun]

So I got this wonderful apartment with a bar and lounge, I don't really feel like getting any top models yet (I got time) I need to find a girlfriend or two. All I need to do is get the women in here and they'll see the light.

What should I be doing on my weekdays? I plan soon to be busy with work all week, typically in nights (have to be in touch with the US during their business hours) so will then have little time for fun. Now all I got is time.

Any suggestions? Is there any action in this city on weekdays? It seems there should be. I'm almost starting to miss Piter already because Metro is always hopping and great for pickups.

Ziggy. Deserves all the info that old Kiev Hands can dish out.

Just look at the aomunt of research he did here and all the in put he posted from St, p before he even landed in Kiev.

Unlike a lot of the Lazy mongers, who prefer to get the Digits&info via PM, then never to hear from them on here again.

[Irish Lad]

..another grivna.

Was in Kiev again last weekend, am there now half of the month, great place, still getting to know it though.

Friday evening the Buddha Bar was relatively full with pro's, Saturday was packing. I have never seen it that full, maybe it was an exception, or the invisible hand of supply and demand working its' way around the closure of RP and Mandarin. In any case, also during the week, no problems in finding p4p there.

Prices quoted between US200 (reasonable) and US500 (silly). Took a nice 30 year old with me, went dancing in the Caribbean, took her home, had good sessions before and after breakfast, paid U200. She is a keeper for the lonely winter nights.

Better still is the freebie mamba carousel, if played well, and if you are willing to invest in a couple of evenings out before any real action (some of them really play the role of "nice" ukrainian girl to perfection), the problem quickly becomes one of time and not opportunity. I am almost 50, my target is 30-35y, and there is an almost endless well of intelligent, well educated, professional woman, who are willing to date, dine, dance and ultimately drop their pants for a nice foreigner. Getting them in the sack the first night is of course the objective, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. For me it does not matter much, I love the "game", and as I am there so often now, no problem to cultivate a few, and harvest another few during the weekend.

A question to the more experienced, are there any nice "neighbourhood" bars in the centre or Podol (where my apprt is), just to have a beer and a snack, mee the locals sort of. Buddha Bar is nice, but hardly a place any more where you can take a non-pro for glass of wine and relax, too many pro's. The OK Bar is nice, but not very romantic inside. Clubs and restaurants plenty of course, but does any one know of a nice non-pro bar ?

Thanks, and keep it up.

Ciao

BR

Hi,

Lots of bars in the centre more suitable to your needs.

Volias on boulevard Chevchenko 1. Walk up from Kreschatyk 40 metres and turn left through the 1st archway after DHL then downstairs on left. It's confortable and relaxed.

A few others listed on www.infoinkiev.com

[Ziggym]

t does any one know of a nice non-pro bar?

Sure it's touristy but have you tried Docker Pub? Lots of women there, often in groups at a table.

If they speak English and are smart just walk up to them and ask them to settle an argument with you and a friend.. that's always a good icebreaker. As for the question you ask it's up to you.

In Germany or America I'd ask "What is the name of the princess in Neverending Story?" this is bost a test to make sure they're the right age and also a trick question as the movie never tells you, only the book. I think the answer is moonchild. It doesn't matter lol

[Brotherrabitt]

..another grivna.

Was in Kiev again last weekend, am there now half of the month, great place, still getting to know it though.

Friday evening the Buddha Bar was relatively full with pro's, Saturday was packing. I have never seen it that full, maybe it was an exception, or the invisible hand of supply and demand working its' way around the closure of RP and Mandarin. In any case, also during the week, no problems in finding p4p there.

Prices quoted between US200 (reasonable) and US500 (silly). Took a nice 30 year old with me, went dancing in the Caribbean, took her home, had good sessions before and after breakfast, paid U200. She is a keeper for the lonely winter nights.

Better still is the freebie mamba carousel, if played well, and if you are willing to invest in a couple of evenings out before any real action (some of them really play the role of "nice" ukrainian girl to perfection), the problem quickly becomes one of time and not opportunity. I am almost 50, my target is 30-35y, and there is an almost endless well of intelligent, well educated, professional woman, who are willing to date, dine, dance and ultimately drop their pants for a nice foreigner. Getting them in the sack the first night is of course the objective, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. For me it does not matter much, I love the "game", and as I am there so often now, no problem to cultivate a few, and harvest another few during the weekend.

A question to the more experienced, are there any nice "neighbourhood" bars in the centre or Podol (where my apprt is), just to have a beer and a snack, mee the locals sort of. Buddha Bar is nice, but hardly a place any more where you can take a non-pro for glass of wine and relax, too many pro's. The OK Bar is nice, but not very romantic inside. Clubs and restaurants plenty of course, but does any one know of a nice non-pro bar ?

Thanks, and keep it up.

Ciao

BR

[Sorbonne]

I was last week in Rakuena located in 4B, Kruglouniversitetskaya Street (entry by the yard).
Kiev, 01024, Ukraine.

tel.: +3 (044) 568-2947
mob.:+3(063)568-29-47
was closed and per telephone they gave me a new address very close to Arena. Service was OK but no chance for sex however happy end

I believe Rakuena has two locations. One off K St. (I thought it was on Liuteranska St.) was better than the one off Lesi Ukrainky Blvd. (near the intersection of Shovkovychna St.)

[Uke Boy]

are these papers in local angage? can we read and understand the real age?

It does not matter if you can or cannot understand Ukrainian. The one thing you need to look for in the passport is the date of birth. That is quite easy to find and understand.

The present year is 2010. Anyone born in 1992 is legal. Any passport entry before that year is jailbait and open your butt time.

It is nothing but simple mathematics and more importantly, common sense.

[Sponsor74]

For this I can give a guarantee of reliability and original photos

http://www.mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=414085122&hit=3

what is better for girls in Ukraine? I have Mamba but want to try mail.ru too. However, it seems that for mail.ru is similar than ICQ but for the registration I need an email and as per the internet site this is only possible with Russian emails and not easy the registration. If someone knows a link to registration of email in mail.ru would be nice to have or maybe posible with hotmail or yahoo too?