Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Polvo]

Mongers-Nossa Sem Hora is a regular "boate" ....Rock Harders

Thanks! Again, ISG knowledge scores over "well researched" reporting!

Polvo

[Rock Harders]

Mongers-
Nossa Sem Hora is a regular "boate" that is located on what do you know, Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. One of my civilian ex girlfriends used to work there as a bartender. It is not a place that caters to Mongers or garotas looking for customers, although like many other bars and nightclubs in Zona Sul (Shenanigans, Melt, Baronetti, Emporio, etc) there are GDP's and semi-GDP's plying their trade from time to time. It is not a place that is popular with tourists so I would recommend sticking to Shenanigan's, Melt, or Emporio if you are looking for GDP action in a non-GDP venue.
Sorte,
Rock Harders

[Polvo]

Gents:

I picked up the October 2010 issue of a German magazine called "Trip" which has "Das Grosse Spezial Rio de Janeiro" - a supplement about Rio.

Now my German is limited to "Is this your tank? Hands up?" and "Do you do pool chemicals as well?", so I am not sure I'm gripping all the data but it talks about a place called:
Nossa Sem Hora on Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 1144. www.nossasemhora.com.br which is a "nightclub....with amateur-prostitutes". (Never met an amateur one.)

I thought I knew Rio reasonably well but I am blanking on this one. Any ideas - or is it known by another name?

Polvo

[Eric Cartman]

Well it's been 4 days since I landed in Rio to start my business. And I've been working the whole time. My plans to hit 4x4 on Monday night were waylaid by staying at our attorney's offices until 11.30pm. Fun times. The good news about endless bureaucracy in Brazil is that it is a barrier to entry

Anyway, hoje had a 2 hour afternoon session with Tammy Moricet of Karla's Models.

http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html

A friend recommended her (although he later withdrew his reccy after reading some more of her reivews, to be fair) and in those pics on the Karla's site she has a crackin' body, so I'm like why not. After all I've been in Rio for 4 days entirely pussy-free, since landing last Friday. So it's time.

Called up Karla's at 1.20pm and a woman answers who speaks no English. I talk to her in Porto and set up Tammy for 2.30pm. (Later, when Tammy shows me the book from karla's I laugh at the cards that say "English Spoken" -- she smiles and says they lie lol). Receptionist clearly covers the pricing -- R$120 for 2 hours plus R$25 for taxi each way, so total R$170 (about $100 USD these days, or maybe more).

Tammy shows up right on time. She's pleasant but not super passionate. We chat a bit, she showers up, and we get to business. She's a light kisser, and a bit of a tip-swabber (BBBJ), but hey it's been 4 days pussy-free. The good news is she knows how to work her Carioca hips. Did 2 rounds in about 1hr 30mins, and then let her go. Was too tired and the whole experience not passionate enough to make me try for the culo, though she apparently is completa.

All in all a decent experience but I would not repeat with her. FWIW she recommended her colleagues Tabata Sherman and Jamile Cortat, both visible on the Karla's site.

[Henry R]

I have been to fortaleza several times and it is no Rio in terms of quality of women. Its like a different world. No asses and little to no english skills. I speak portuguese well, but the average monger will have some trouble anywhere north of Salvador. Yes it's worth a visit, but not the answer to help woes in my opinion.

It's true less English is spoken up north than in Rio. But let's face it, the programa girls in Rio don't speak much English either. Also, the girls in Fortaleza are not as bad looking as posters are making them out to be. I never hear any of the loads of tourists in Fortaleza complaining about the looks of the girls in Fort. I was in Cafe del Mar, in Iracema, my last nite in Fort in 2008, and the quality of the babes was amazing. There were some lookers in the other Iracema clubs too, but nothing like what I saw that nite at Cafe del Mar.
And Cafe del Mar babes that night had lots of variety: light ones, dark ones, blonds, brunettes, short, tall, etc.

[Dickweed780]

Hi I was at Luomo four months ago and found out that my best barmen (Barry) was fired because of food now luomo has a new barman called carlos he is a sh#t barman he can not make any drinks and does not now how to serve people, then we have peter that is f##$cking prick he was rude to me he telled me that I am a jerk.

Dick

[Jsm1393]

I have been to fortaleza several times and it is no Rio in terms of quality of women. Its like a different world. No asses and little to no english skills. I speak portuguese well, but the average monger will have some trouble anywhere north of Salvador. Yes it's worth a visit, but not the answer to help woes in my opinion.

I agree that Rio women are much higher quality, in general, but the price is also 2-3x. I also don't speak Portuguese at all, but got by on Spanish (spoken slowly) and body language. I'll be in Rio for a few days ahead of getting back to Fortaleza, and I'm looking forward to hitting it with some amazing hotties.

[Daniel69]

Sperto the latest rumor was that Iberostar was no longer involved with this project and the new rumor was as follows but I don't think it holds much water either, seems like a long shot but I hope I'm wrong:

I heard the same thing (minus the details Poucolouco provided) from a reliable source about the Spaniard buying Le Méridien and turning it into a super club/hotel with multiple clubs on different floors. I think all of this was planned before Rio won the bid to host the Olympics though, because Le Méridien is directly across from the future Beach Volleyball tournament, and Garotas de programa don't suit well with family crowds.

Check out http://www.RiOlympico.com for a presentation of the upcoming Olympics and you'll see the impact it's going to have on Copacabana, and especially where Le Méridien is.

It's too bad sex isn't considered a sport.

[Daniel69]

Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?

Ummm. To fill the ginormous void left by Help. Apparently gringos and putas go well together so there's a huge market for it. Robing up at Termas is too contrived IMHO, I like the roll playing that goes on in the clubs (and my apartment). Bring on the next Help I say.

[Lex Lector]

RE: Club above Balcony. When it first started it was ok, a lot of run off from Help. I have been there twice in the last 2 months and it sucked --- badly!

Anyone been there like last week?

Yeah I was there. Probably 30-50 GDPs, but 50-60% were old and tired. 20 % were doable, and 3-4 real cuties. Personally I am not here for "doable" but go for the cuties, so while I did found company nor was there a great selection if out for the jaw-droppers.

[Rio Bob]

Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?
Help is gone (no loss at all) and won't have any real substitute.

Sperto the latest rumor was that Iberostar was no longer involved with this project and the new rumor was as follows but I don't think it holds much water either, seems like a long shot but I hope I'm wrong:

Here is my pure conjecture on the future venue for former Help customers.

Note: See previous photo progress at post #3610 in this thread.

For you nostalgia buffs, Help will soon be just a hole in the ground. These pics are from 03/24/10. The odds on the possibility of a reemergence at the Meridian are improving. In May 2009, the Meridian was purchased from the former owner, PREVI, the employee pension fund of the Bank of Brasil by the Windsor Hotel group. The Windsor group is controlled by Sr. José Oreiro Campos, an ex-pat Spaniard who is a former owner of two bingo parlors and has a controlling interest in several hotels in Rio. He also is an owner of ten Rio restaurants and, had a controlling interest in the former discotheque Help. The group bought the Meridien for R$ 170 million, paying installments for 60 months. The group made a down payment of R$ 25 millions, for the purchase on 27 May, 2009. A progress payment of R$ 10 millions is due on 27 of March of 2010. From 27 January, 2011 Windsor will pay 25 installments of R$ 2.7 millions, and other 15 of R$ 4.5 millions, corrected by the IGPM (market price index) plus 8% annual interest. The initial cash flow is consistent with the sale of Help.

Under an agreement dating back to the 1970s when the Meridian was constructed to a height which exceeded building limits for Copacabana there was an agreement with the Prefeitura of Rio de Janeiro that it would operate solely as a hotel. There were numerous proposals for mixed use of the building as offices, condominiums and hotel but the use restriction seemed to prohibit alternative businesses from operating in the facility. It is possible that Sr. Oreiro was successful in negotiating relief from this restriction in exchange for the timely demise of Help in 2009. In the huge edifice of the ex-Meridian building there is plenty of room for a new discotheque to open under the mantle of the Windsor Hotel group. Even without relief from the building use restriction, the hotel may operate a ballroom and convention space.

Help may not reemerge under its original name but Sr. Oreiro knows what sells and how to package his products.

[Sperto]

Ex-Méridien/Iberostar is being renovated for quite a long time. Why on earth would Iberostar be planning to open a club gathered to gringos and putas?
Help is gone (no loss at all) and won't have any real substitute.

[Bravo]

Its more to Rio than just copa

And your point is?

I was responding to a question about Balcony and Copa, not sure what your response was in reference to.

[Allforrio]

I am sure it was outstanding right after Help closed. I was in DV 3 weeks ago and it sucks, balcony sucks, in fact, the whole Copa scene sucks!

Its more to Rio than just copa

[Henry R]

[QUOTE=Jd Garbanzo]Fortaleza has a nice troika of places where most of the action takes place - Forro Mambo, Cafe del Mar, Club Europa (with 11pm-1am pregame at Zipi Bar) - that, to me, was even better for "feel" than Help. So much so that I'm working Fortaleza back into my itinerary for a trip in Nov/Dec.


Jd: (and to others who will be there)

I will be in Fortaleza Nov 20 - Nov 26. PM if interested in getting together for a drink.