Angeles City

[MauiDude]

Hi, I'm a newbie planning to make a trip out to Angeles City, but my biggest concern was that I heard that it could be higher crime and even a little dangerous if you're not careful. I've been to Pattaya several times and never once felt threatened. I am also generally non-confrontational. Again, I never had problems in Thailand, but I imagine that the PI is a different beast.

Also if you think I should just stick with Pattaya, let me know that as well. The main things attracting me to PI was the fact that the women there actually speak English and just for a change of scenery. But I'm not sure putting myself in danger, risk getting my things stolen is worth the risk if the risks are significantly higher than in Thailand. I hope you experts can give me some insight. Thanks!

Yes stay in Pattaya. Hahahaha. More girls for me here in angeles.

Just joking.

When I first read and heard about angeles. I thought it would be the worse place in the country.

Three years later and I am still living there. Only two weeks now in hawaii.

Of course I go other places but angeles is as safe and. As dangerous as anywhere.

Theft is normal and you got to take precautions as anywhere.

Enjoy feel free to hook up with me for bar hop. I get back there first week of feburary but also travel many places.

Like cebu puerto galera, batangas, and subic.

Going alone to ac is no problem. Things happen and you got to be careful but I sure do like it. And especially the girls

[MauiDude]

Patty Boy,

I can't speak to the danger level in AC, as I have not had the opportunity to make it there yet myself. However, I think I can safely say that the danger is no greater there than anywhere else we mongers might travel. Just be smart about what you do while you are there. First off, read as much of the posts on this forum as you can, to get a better idea of what you are getting into. Perhaps one of the AC regulars would be willing to take you under his wing and show you around a bit. As for the laptop, try to find a hotel that has in room safes. But be aware, some of these are not big enough to fit a full size laptop inside of. If that is the case, bring along a cable lock for the laptop, or a locking suit case to put it in when you need to leave the room. Nothing is absolutely secure. If a thief wants to break into your room and steal your things badly enough, they will find a way to do so, no matter what precautions you take. This applies to anyplace you might travel to. AC does not have a corner on the theft business. I lock up everything of value wherever I travel.

HW

I have lived in ac for about three years. It is relatively safe. Just as safe as any city and you do have to pay attention as anywhere.

I have had some people try to take money from me but usually its a Filipino guy trying to be friendly and I stop and talk instead of ignoring and then I realize before too late that its a con. Of course I took my changes because sometimes I am in the mood to talk to anyone even with the danger.

Mostly I vary my routine also and walk fast and just don't let anyone touch me or get behind me. Etc. Just like anywhere.

I do hear from friends and other sources that Pattaya can be just as dangerous.

One night two years ago I was very sleepy and on the my lap top in the restaurant of the orchid inn.

I go to my room and go to sleep.

I wake up and do not see my computer. I have no memory of what I did with it. I look everywhere.

As I approach the front desk to ask if they have seen my computer. The clerk calls me by name and says she has my computer.

The janitor found it and left it at the front desk for me. I did not remember at all where I had left it.

Of course I gave the guy a tip and I hope he was still happy that he was an honest man.

[Slippery]

I had been in the Phils 9 times before making my cherry trip to AC and also went there with a certain degree of apprehensiveness last month but curiosity got the best of me. From my hotel in Manila I took a taxi over to the Swagman Hotel, paid my 600 php for the bus and took a very comfy 2 hour ride to AC and Pacific Breeze Hotel which I had booked a day or two in advance. AC was nothing like I had envisioned, particularly from my experiences in Manila, which makes AC look like a safety zone.

Pacific Breeze had an in room safe large enough for my laptop but I left it out most of the time that I was gone. The hotel was a 3 minute walk from Fields and compared to some of the walks that I've taken in Manila, it was a walk in the park. Price was about $50. 00 a night. It was clean and the staff was very friendly and helpful. I found the general area to be considerably safer than nearly all places I have been to in metro Manila. If somebody, approaches you on the street, male or femele, don't speak with them and keep walking. Never, ever, ever take a girl off the street as that's a perfect opportunity for any number of set ups. Stay on the moderate side of drunkenness and keep a low profile. I have a beer in one place and a bottled water in the next place. That has been my general rule across the globe.

There are alot of guys on this board with tons of experience in AC, many who live there. I'm just giving my impressions of my cherry trip there. Looks like I'm going to have a good week next week at work. If so, I'm booking a trip for next month and will spend a few days in AC again.

[GreenBud]

Hi, I'm a newbie planning to make a trip out to Angeles City, but my biggest concern was that I heard that it could be higher crime and even a little dangerous if you're not careful. I've been to Pattaya several times and never once felt threatened. I was wondering if it is safe at all to bring your laptop or whether this is not a good idea due to theft? I plan on working during the day and having fun at night.

I've also heard of taxi drivers from the airport taking you on a detour on the way to Angeles? Also people being setup by the cops? Are these things true? It's kind of a scary thought for me. I was planning on going alone, but would it be smarter to either go with someone who has been there before or meet up with people there to show me the ropes? Would people generally be willing to help out a fellow monger or do they mainly keep to themselves? Part of my problem is that I'm a bit of a young guy in my late 20s but I look even younger than my age. Maybe fresh out of college. And perhaps a little innocent. I'm Asian and I'm not really a big guy or anything (I'm 5'6 or so). I am hoping that I won't be getting into trouble because of that. That is people being much more encouraged to take advantage of me or even get aggressive with me. I am not stupid or anything so I can spot scams / trouble, but I am also generally non-confrontational. Again, I never had problems in Thailand, but I imagine that the PI is a different beast.

Also if you think I should just stick with Pattaya, let me know that as well. The main things attracting me to PI was the fact that the women there actually speak English and just for a change of scenery. But I'm not sure putting myself in danger, risk getting my things stolen is worth the risk if the risks are significantly higher than in Thailand. I hope you experts can give me some insight. Thanks!

Yes Angeles can be more dangerous than Pattaya. But it can be completely safe if you stay smart. Just stay on the main roads (Fields and Perimeter) with people around. Don't go exploring or take short cuts. Also, politely ignore all offers from Filipinos, even when they say "Boss, I work for security at your hotel".

Never read about laptops being stolen from the major hotels in the area. They have armed security and cameras. Well, even the 7-11s have armed security.

Taxis will be a set price from the airport, hence there won't be any detour. I would recommend getting the hotel to arrange a taxi to pick you up. It will be approx 2500 pesos from Manila airport.

I would recommend the Royal Amsterdam for the hotel stay and airport pick-up. If you have trouble sleeping with noise, ask for a room that does not face the noisy back.

It seems (my guess) that the set-ups are not that prevalent. Previously there were several cases. But in most of those set-ups, the guys were GUILTY! Just don't be stupid and pick-up young freelancers or let your girlfriend's young cousin use the shower; that is don't have a naked 16 year old girl in the shower.

I like Angeles for a change of scenery; plus cheaper prices if you want to pick up 3 at one time; LOL! You can do both Pattaya and Angeles. If you buy early, Cebu Pacific has decent prices from BKK to Clark (Angeles airport). Clark will only be 300 pesos for the taxi pick-up.

[Mongrinastrlnd]

As for the laptop, try to find a hotel that has in room safes.

My ultimate pipe dream would be a room safe that had an internal electric socket.

Hmmm. I sense opportunity here.

[Hairy Wonder]

Patty Boy,

I can't speak to the danger level in AC, as I have not had the opportunity to make it there yet myself. However, I think I can safely say that the danger is no greater there than anywhere else we mongers might travel. Just be smart about what you do while you are there. First off, read as much of the posts on this forum as you can, to get a better idea of what you are getting into. Perhaps one of the AC regulars would be willing to take you under his wing and show you around a bit. As for the laptop, try to find a hotel that has in room safes. But be aware, some of these are not big enough to fit a full size laptop inside of. If that is the case, bring along a cable lock for the laptop, or a locking suit case to put it in when you need to leave the room. Nothing is absolutely secure. If a thief wants to break into your room and steal your things badly enough, they will find a way to do so, no matter what precautions you take. This applies to anyplace you might travel to. AC does not have a corner on the theft business. I lock up everything of value wherever I travel.

HW

[Patty Boy]

Hi, I'm a newbie planning to make a trip out to Angeles City, but my biggest concern was that I heard that it could be higher crime and even a little dangerous if you're not careful. I've been to Pattaya several times and never once felt threatened. I was wondering if it is safe at all to bring your laptop or whether this is not a good idea due to theft? I plan on working during the day and having fun at night.

I've also heard of taxi drivers from the airport taking you on a detour on the way to Angeles? Also people being setup by the cops? Are these things true? It's kind of a scary thought for me. I was planning on going alone, but would it be smarter to either go with someone who has been there before or meet up with people there to show me the ropes? Would people generally be willing to help out a fellow monger or do they mainly keep to themselves? Part of my problem is that I'm a bit of a young guy in my late 20s but I look even younger than my age. Maybe fresh out of college. And perhaps a little innocent. I'm Asian and I'm not really a big guy or anything (I'm 5'6 or so). I am hoping that I won't be getting into trouble because of that. That is people being much more encouraged to take advantage of me or even get aggressive with me. I am not stupid or anything so I can spot scams / trouble, but I am also generally non-confrontational. Again, I never had problems in Thailand, but I imagine that the PI is a different beast.

Also if you think I should just stick with Pattaya, let me know that as well. The main things attracting me to PI was the fact that the women there actually speak English and just for a change of scenery. But I'm not sure putting myself in danger, risk getting my things stolen is worth the risk if the risks are significantly higher than in Thailand. I hope you experts can give me some insight. Thanks!

[Sky Ryder]

A week or so ago I was in AC for the first time. I've spent some time in other parts of the Phils, but hadn't made it to the centerpiece.

First I would like to thank Wicked Roger for providing some very good hotel info and also will say that the information contained in some of the recent posts was invaluable.

I stayed at the Pacific Breeze and will do so again, as the staff couldn't have been nicer and truth be told the hotel staff gals were some of the hottest I saw. I would have.

BF any number of them if they had been available.)

I almost started with an afternoon massage, but decided that I would save the "edge" for later. I did start the "tour" about 4:30 on Fields Ave. I had intended to try the Perimeter area in the afternoon, but.

Wasn't sure exactly where it was located and by then it didn't really matter. Met a couple of English retired guys that live in AC and they took me along for a while. It seems that one their Fil's GF or wife was pissed off at him about something, so they decided it was a good idea to give her time to cool off and find some other entertainment!

We went to Geckos and had a good time, then I went to Baby Dolls, before rejoining them at Champagne. I really liked this place, not only because of the dancers, but most of the "hostesses" where hot! I would have BF'ed one quickly if it wasn't my first time. Left and went to a couple of other places on Fields and what struck me was the sheer numbers of girls, not many real stunners but just a lot to choose from. Found my way to Tropix, which is one block off of Fields and it was here that I struck gold! I was really interested in one of the hostesses, (notice a pattern here) , but she told me she was "cherry". I told here I didn't believe she was a virgin, which I was correct, but she had never left the bar with a customer and was not interested in doing so, since she wanted to find true love before giving herself up "again".

I didn't push it, but instead ask her to give me advice about the "fun girls" of the ones I was interested in talking too. She did and I called one off stage, a slender, lithe young thing that was a little taller than the rest and had a beautiful face. We talked for a while and I thought it was heading somewhere when she asked if she could go back on stage. I was surprised and said,"yes of course if that is what you want to do". She left, and I was perplexed. What I later found out was that her drink was finished and she either had to get another drink, get BF'ed, or go dance. As it turns out she was too shy to ask for another drink and I didn't know I was supposed to offer. Duh.

I talked to another girl over a drink and she was cute, but nothing clicked, so I left.

Went back to Champagne and chatted up the cute hostess and asked her if I could bar fine her, she said of course she would love to go with me. Then she kind of sheepishly said," I need to tell you something before we leave." I'm not sure what to expect, but she said that she had just started her period that afternoon at work, and while it wasn't bad, she didn't want me to be surprised. I politely told her that as much as I wanted to spend some time with her, I wasn't really in the mood to deal with that issue on this night. She understood and said she would make it up to me if I would see her again at another time.

Checked a couple of the big name bars, and got one "first night at the bar gal" who was really cute, but when I started making sure that she was "into the program" found out that she had a lot of restrictions which I wasn't going to deal with in a P4P situation. I suspect that will change with her quickly but I wasn't going to be in charge of training on this night.

Went back to Tropix and was surprised that the girl was still in the line up, I thought she was one of the best looking ones there. The hostess asked me what happened earlier and I told her, she started laughing and told me that if I wanted her to stay I had to buy another drink. I felt like an idiot! I got her off the stage and made sure that she was okay with my "rules" and off we went for the 1500 BF.

She was really hot in jeans and shirt and we grabbed a bite to eat then off to the room. She started a little slow, but responded well to my attentions and was soon "fully engaged" in the program.

As it turns out she was a real treat, and after the second time, I was spent. I really didn't care whether she stayed or left since I had get up early to get a bus to Manila, so gave her the option to stay or go. She chose to leave after a shower and I got a big hug and smile at the exit.

I am looking forward to my next visit and will try the perimeter bars early in the afternoon, and suspect that a LT BF will be a good thing. I also won' t wait so late to choose if I see something I like because it might not be available later.

There is much left to explore!

[Hairy Wonder]

Had weird experience at Bunny burger joint. Looking in I saw an empty seat. I walked in and was right at the table when a guy quickly walks up (from inside) and says sarcastically,"my table mate" I just shrugged and walked out, but I couldn't help wondering why I meet so many fucwits from down under when I go to AC.

Why not be like the Germans, and simply share the table? I admit, the first time someone sat down, uninvited, at my table in Germany (my first time there, many years ago) , it felt a little weird. But I came to accept it as normal. I would like to think that fellow mongers, regardless of nationality, would be willing to let me sit and enjoy my "Bunny burger" if there were no other seats / tables available.

[X Man]

Ha, ha, the guy I described certainly seemed ready to. I just chuckled and walked out. The Bunny Burger seemed very popular. I never did get a seat in that place.

Easy guys. Every nationality have fuckwits. Besides, is the Bunny burger food really good enough to fight over a seat?

[X Man]

1) The table / seat was empty. He quickly walked up to it as he saw me walking up.

2) His comment was said in a sarcastic tone.

Maybe fuckwit was a poor choice of words. How about "dick with a smart ass attitude"?

Maybe I'm missing the point. But why does that make him a fuckwit?

Maybe it was his seat?

If you have a dislike of Aussies in general, just say so.

Cheers.

[Hatguy]

I'm one myself. You just got unlucky. Bunny burger? Are you serious? Is that what its called? Hahaha!

[Darth Sushi]

Easy guys. Every nationality have fuckwits. Besides, is the Bunny burger food really good enough to fight over a seat?

[Filipino]

I've met quite a few Filipinos retired from the US military (& active duty on leave) and they're mongering like the rest of us. In fact, I watched the BCS championship at a sports bar in Fields with a few of them. I doubt the part where they won't let you in but management usually becomes nervous when you look Filipino. One manager told me that a younger Filipino guy (s) in a bar is usually a precursor to a raid. If you are seated among a group of foreigners, then it's probably less worrisome. Your accent alone will suffice to put the girls at ease because the girls will quickly know you did not grew up around here.

I'm Filipino American as well. I am also a younger guy. I haven't experienced bars not letting me in, but I have had one mama-san not allow me to barfine a girl. I asked the girl how much the barfine was and if she wanted to come with me. I got the price and she was good to go but mama-san said no. I later asked a different bargirl about it and she said that they thought I was working with law enforcement or something. I just went to a different bar and picked up a different girl.

[Gaoshou]

Gentlemen:

I am a longtime contributor to the Beijing forum. I will be making my first ever trip to Phils and AC later this month, from Jan 28 to Feb 4. I will start in AC but am considering a trip to Borocay, as well, if I can find a suitable companion.

I will of course scour the forum in advance of the trip, but I'd also love to meet up with any travelers or locals who can share some wisdom over beers. Reply on the board or, better, PM if interested.

Gaoshou