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[Mystery77]

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Uitgdcolvh

[Mystery77]

On flirt. Ua or mamba.

Or whatever site is linked associated with the same I'd:

Responses to my messages. From different women, & a regular "same" message I recieve, from at least 8 different profiles so far.

Profiles are of sexy girls, not over the top photo editing. Profiles have a different number of pictures of the particular girl representing that profile.

Like normal hot girls working for cash, background is very normal like leaning on doors or nightclubs.

Though with all the different profiles! The same number is presented. . . Is it a "SCAM"? Fake representation, brothel, or what?

Any body got any experience with this contact number?

The reply email is literally always the same, below:

Only thing is different is like a coding right at the bottom: "uitgdcolvh." This is different on each different reply I've had.

It is actually under smiley faces though none of those come up in the copy & paste here.

Yesterday at 20:16&1054; &1083; &1103; &1055; &1088; &1080; &1074; &1077; &1090; !

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&1052; &1054; &1049; __&1054; 96.

&1053; &1054; &1052; &1045; &1056; ____55&1054;

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Uitgdcolvh

• yesterday at 20:16.

&1054; &1083; &1103;

&1055; &1088; &1080; &1074; &1077; &1090; !

&1048; &1053; &1044; &1048; &1042; &1048; &1044; &1059; &1040; &1051; &1050; &1040; &1060; &1054; &1058; &1054; &1053; &1040; &1042; &1057; &1045; 1&1054; &1054; % &1056; &1045; &1040; &1051;

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&1053; &1054; &1052; &1045; &1056; ____55&1054;

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Uitgdcolvh

[Mystery77]

On flirt. Ua or mamba.

Or whatever site is linked associated with the same I'd:

Responses to my messages. From different women, & a regular "same" message I recieve, from at least 8 different profiles so far.

Profiles are of sexy girls, not over the top photo editing. Profiles have a different number of pictures of the particular girl representing that profile.

Like normal hot girls working for cash, background is very normal like leaning on doors or nightclubs.

Though with all the different profiles! The same number is presented. . . Is it a "SCAM"? Fake representation, brothel, or what?

Any body got any experience with this contact number?

The reply email is literally always the same, below:

Only thing is different is like a coding right at the bottom: "uitgdcolvh." This is different on each different reply I've had.

It is actually under smiley faces though none of those come up in the copy & paste here.

Yesterday at 20:16&1054; &1083; &1103; &1055; &1088; &1080; &1074; &1077; &1090; !

&1048; &1053; &1044; &1048; &1042; &1048; &1044; &1059; &1040; &1051; &1050; &1040; &1060; &1054; &1058; &1054; &1053; &1040; &1042; &1057; &1045; 1&1054; &1054; % &1056; &1045; &1040; &1051;

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6&1054; &1054; &1075; &1088; &1085; &1102; &1095; &1072; &1089; &1080; &1082;

25&1054; &1054; &1085; &1086; &1095; &1100; &1082; &1072;

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&1052; &1054; &1049; __&1054; 96.

&1053; &1054; &1052; &1045; &1056; ____55&1054;

&1058; &1045; &1051; &1045; &1060; &1054; &1053; &1040; ___42___&1054; 6.

Uitgdcolvh

[Mystery77]

What is this mamba? Can you guys please give the adress to it.

Is it available in english?

Is top-models. Com a reliable website with real photos, has anyone experince with it?

Can one with latest trip tell more about average prices for one hour?

Also I looked in wikitravel for Kiev and found out that a beer bottle costs 3 dollars at a bar if I am not wrong, isn't this to expensive or expensive for the inhabitants of Kiev?

Not expensive for a west european but still if there are cheaper you want that of course.

Also, can you guys please share your trip experince other than monger like resturang prices things to do strip clubs established brothels activites like paint ball go cart other fun stuff. Is gliding availabe

How to find cheap hotels and etc.

I found really cheap flight with baltic air for 130 euro around trip which is really cheap since its ukraine borders central asia almost.

I know I can search for my self but I am only asking for advice if any of you guys has done these things before or have experince of similar things.

I will also search for myself but advice would be appraciated.

Thanks in advance

Mamba is like a social site. Where you can meet people to chat, plan travel trips, try dating relationships, or offer sex for cash. Check profile before you ask every girl.

I myself am heading to Kiev in a week for a 2 month stay. So will be able to up date alot of what I find.

& yes I'm also interested in extra activities such as karting, strip clubs, & ak-47's. So I think it would be a good idea to share more ideas fella on activities. Whats recommend & whats not!

All activities can be shared with ladies, & or that special right one for you if you're looking for that relationship.

[Irish Lad]

A thought just hit me. Later this year I'm planning a business / holiday for a month + to Phuket in Thailand.

I would be interested in arranging a nice young woman to travel with me.

However, personally I feel if I arrange & pay for the flight, accommodation, food, outtings etc. That would be enough! Without paying extra pocket cash for coming.

Yes I know you can meet women mostly for cash in Phuket. I been in the country 4 times my shortest stay was 2 months so I'm very seasoned there.

However, my desire is to take a woman that is interest. In good shape & spirit from Ukraine. No strings attached, leading to if I decide possible 3somes or whatever with the locals if it comes up. Or the girls can play & I watch.

Just some pleasures of the flesh in an exotic warm happening city. Fun, fuck, & entertainment.

Anyone know possible interested contacts or where to seek?

I've tried mamba for the trips travel section. Not really happening, little replys etc.

Anybody in Phuket mid July-Aug let me know I'm happy to meet up & play.

I got some local knowledge & could save you a buck or 2.

Hi.

Forget about using the "travel section" on Mamba and set up a profile saying exactly what you want. Then, use either / both the photo line along the top or "leader" section on the left saying you want girl for holiday in Thailand. You'll have 100s to choose from if you do it a few times. 2 or 3 will ask how much you pay and ignore them, no point even explaining the benefit of a months holiday at your expense to them.

Things to think about though.

Aerosvit costs just over $1, 000 Kiev-Bangkok.

Ukrainians apply for visa on entry but it's usually for only 15 days. Russians don't need visas like that so maybe look from Russia unless you will be on the flight too from Kiev.

If for some strange reason you don't find then PM me and I'll send you links to 10-20 hot girls who want Thailand holiday. Forgot to mention, we took 2 to Phukett in January and have 3 here in Thailand now with 3 arriving next week. Bring 2 then if you're in to 3 somes but why only watch?)

[Shanjahan]

What is this mamba? Can you guys please give the adress to it.

Is it available in english?

Is top-models. Com a reliable website with real photos, has anyone experince with it?

Can one with latest trip tell more about average prices for one hour?

Also I looked in wikitravel for Kiev and found out that a beer bottle costs 3 dollars at a bar if I am not wrong, isn't this to expensive or expensive for the inhabitants of Kiev?

Not expensive for a west european but still if there are cheaper you want that of course.

Also, can you guys please share your trip experince other than monger like resturang prices things to do strip clubs established brothels activites like paint ball go cart other fun stuff. Is gliding availabe

How to find cheap hotels and etc.

I found really cheap flight with baltic air for 130 euro around trip which is really cheap since its ukraine borders central asia almost.

I know I can search for my self but I am only asking for advice if any of you guys has done these things before or have experince of similar things.

I will also search for myself but advice would be appraciated.

Thanks in advance

[AColonizer]

i have just come back from kiev and the scene is just what you said. i think kiev is becoming like moscow.

i explain:

- if you are a hardcore russian-speaking monger, you have a lot of opportunities to get what you want: deep throat swallow blowjobs, all sex without condom, pornstar-like experiences, pissing-drink, deep anal fisting, etc. for a local reasonable rate.

- if you are not a hardcore russian-speaking monger, you have to work very hardly to get the standard service for foreigners at a western expensive rate by a nice girl.

you said in 2004 women chased westerners, i say now that (golden) time is over definitely either for hardcore prostitutes or pseudo-girlfriends. i always mean about regular (and nice too) men.

i an admirer of some recent mongers, here, because they get what they want for a honest price, even if their tastes are much more tolerant than mine.

if you need to have normal sex by an average woman, you can try any destinations but i should advice you the final cost (flight+accomodation+sex) won't be cheap.

maybe this is a reason a lot of western mongers in ukraine are thinking to go to thailand where it seems men could get everything cheap and also a real girlfriend to bring home.

about me, i am annoyed to work very hardly to find either a beautiful hardcore freebies or a cheap hardcore prostitute. i usually prefer to rent cheap hardcore prostitutes because i don't waste time. it is everything easy for some mongers, here, and honour to them. but i am annoyed always to negotiate also when a girl is sucking my penis because girls know the trick "no agreements are lasting" and "always negotiate in each minute". in other words, the old-style generation (which you said) of prostitutes is over definitely.

i describe one of my recent experiences because it is a clear example.

on monday, after kicking out the first 5 stupid prostitutes, a new one came in and i explained her what has happenened: if she calls her "mamashka" (because all stupid girls call their "mamashka" or "padruga") , mamashka suggests crazy prices for a rubber-doll service, then she never works with me. she was young, not a perfect body but good enough, and she understood. we agreed a one-hour test meeting for all no-condom sex at a honest price. i am sure this is the standard service for locals. i dressed her as a "studentka" and i started to say her "you are a bad student" in russian, we kissed with tongue at a a fast speed for all meeting, she licked my penis, balls and asshole like a shower-washing, i fuck her mouth, pussy and ass in kamasutra "anvil" position, the first shot was a beauful peter-north style facial, she was continuing to suck my sperm-dripping penis, then i fucked her pussy and ass, second shot was in her pussy (i am a romantic man). everything in one hour (no-condom is a better feeling). i asked her personal phone number in order to call her directly with no receptionist and mamashka in the middle. she didn't want.

on friday, i called the same "agency", the receptionist replied "she is not here" and i asked her the reason, the receiptionist replied "because she doesn't work anymore". me stupid: i forgot to convince the prostitute "you never say to the mamashka what you did with a westerner and you always say you provided a rubber-dool service only".

therefore, i am annoyed to work very hardly to get something should be normal instead i have to face a whole system of coalitioned brothels.

it is sure mamashka and pimps read this forum to get precious information about our behaviour. unfortunately we can't get precious information about mamashka and pimps.

i can tell you really love kiev. i haven't been to kiev since 2007 and would love to be brought up to date.

first i'd like to tell you my experiences. when i was there it was $1 = 4. 5 hryvnia and now its $1 = 7. 8 hryvnia. i do not speak russian. my first visit to kiev for 9 days was in 2004 and the beauties were chasing you to be your girlfriend. i was in kiev next in nov 2005 for 9 days and felt the trip was a bust (no good). i felt that the beauties in kiev were no longer interested in dating, sex, and no interest in being your girlfriend. so in 2006-07 i spent some extended time in kiev and the ukraine. i was about 40 then and spent most of my time dating 18 – 27 year olds. i did a few p4p. at that time i felt that things had gotten better for the average girl in kiev so i thought the beauties were not that interested in sex or to be girl friends with western guys. province girls were easier then and i was able to get very pretty gf there. while in the provinces, i was always working other girls on the side while i had a gf.

please bring me up to date now and tell me what things are like now:

have things gotten worse for the girls in kiev now since the exchange rate is much better for foreigners ($1 = 7. 8 hryvnia)? are thing cheaper now or is there just a lot of inflation?

are good looking girls eager to be girl friends?

is that flirt site just for simi-pros & pros?

how much are you paying for the long term services you describe? i believe you are talking about her spending the whole weekend with you right? how much for a week?

since about 2006 there has been explosion of fsu dating sites and kiev is the most popular place. has this made the girls spoiled and not eager to get with you? any chance for gf now? i'm referring to the quality of the girls you have posted on isg. i'm referring to 7-9.

is it harder to get p4p now than it was several years back?

overall is it better now than it was 5 years ago or worse for a foreign man?

i do not speak russian so i'm limited to what i call the 'anglophiles' and usually these girls are not in the most need of man and his money. how hard of a time will i have?

how long are you staying on a visit and how often do you go? i'm asking this because i know this affects you experience. thank you for all the help. i am thinking about going back.

[Black Shirt]

Have a chance to go to Kiev and willing to p4p. I know that everyone is looking for young hot girls. Myself, I don't mind somebody up to 40 with a nice figure. Housewifes type, if you know what I mean. Will appreciate some information in that regard as to their availabilty, as I don't have time for the non-pros. Living in BKK right now, so if you need information, pm me. Thanks.

[Mystery77]

As above, you want to double up, wing, social, do get in touch.

Cheers people I have spoken with!

Networking for mutual entertainment.

[Big Johnson2]

Unfortunately I do not have enough cash for that.

Three wonders of Kiev? (apart the wonderful teens).

- the fabolous central market with the fish stands and wonderful types of caviar, sturgeon and salmon. And the Turkish vegetables.

- wonderful small eateries in Podol, from Georgian to Armenian, from jewish to Russian.

- if you are clever enough and have enough cash you can even live better than in Paris or Berlin where you do not have crowds of avaliable teens.

If you orient yourself to 23-27 whyear old females (could still be by far my daughters. Ihihih) usually they are totally for free or for some gift or shopping. Duos, lesbos are quite normal.

One of the best pros ever found (in reality a Russian. English interpreter) L o l I t a. Who knows understands. Has been hired since 2009 as an interpreter from a businessman.

You know a horny fabolous, always wet. Skinny reddish almost lesbian wanting to go with you for her favourite sport: teen hunting. Can't even imagine. (PS the BBBJ + CIM + FACIAL + HJ of Miss L. Is still, for me, the best ever got.)

IT

I can tell you really love Kiev. I haven't been to Kiev since 2007 and would love to be brought up to date.

First I'd like to tell you my experiences. When I was there it was $1 = 4. 5 hryvnia and now its $1 = 7. 8 hryvnia. I do not speak Russian. My first visit to Kiev for 9 days was in 2004 and the beauties were chasing you to be your girlfriend. I was in Kiev next in Nov 2005 for 9 days and felt the trip was a bust (no good). I felt that the beauties in Kiev were no longer interested in dating, sex, and no interest in being your girlfriend. So in 2006-07 I spent some extended time in Kiev and the Ukraine. I was about 40 then and spent most of my time dating 18 – 27 year olds. I did a few P4P. At that time I felt that things had gotten better for the average girl in Kiev so I thought the beauties were not that interested in sex or to be girl friends with Western guys. Province girls were easier then and I was able to get very pretty GF there. While in the provinces, I was always working other girls on the side while I had a GF.

Please bring me up to date now and tell me what things are like now:

Have things gotten worse for the girls in Kiev now since the exchange rate is much better for foreigners ($1 = 7. 8 hryvnia)? Are thing cheaper now or is there just a lot of inflation?

Are good looking girls eager to be girl friends?

Is that Flirt site just for Simi-pros & pros?

How much are you paying for the Long Term services you describe? I believe you are talking about her spending the whole weekend with you right? How much for a week?

Since about 2006 there has been explosion of FSU dating sites and Kiev is the most popular place. Has this made the girls spoiled and not eager to get with you? Any chance for GF now? I'm referring to the quality of the girls you have posted on ISG. I'm referring to 7-9.

Is it harder to get P4P now than it was several years back?

Overall is it better now than it was 5 years ago or worse for a foreign man?

I do not speak Russian so I'm limited to what I call the 'anglophiles' and usually these girls are not in the most need of man and his money. How hard of a time will I have?

How long are you staying on a visit and how often do you go? I'm asking this because I know this affects you experience. Thank you for all the help. I am thinking about going back.

[AColonizer]

Just a report.

I have visited Arena and D`Lux:

- the ticket entrance is 200 grivnas (!) ;

- there are not so many people in Arena anymore (maybe on Saturday) ;

- I didn`t see any active hunting by "working girls" inside;

- I see (cool) men take (average) girls but after a long dance session on the disco floor.

Maybe to go to discos is not a good deal because 4 entrances * 200 grivnas = 800 grivnas = 100 dollars to get no satysfing results: what do you think about that?

[It Travel]

I'm not surprised. A foreigner living permanently (or semi permanently) in a FSU metropole, if he has a bit of "game", of cash and if he lives confortably, can score literally ad-nauseum.

I'd also love to live somewhere in FSU. Tashkent would be my first choice.

Unfortunately I do not have enough cash for that.

Three wonders of Kiev? (apart the wonderful teens).

- the fabolous central market with the fish stands and wonderful types of caviar, sturgeon and salmon. And the Turkish vegetables.

- wonderful small eateries in Podol, from Georgian to Armenian, from jewish to Russian.

- if you are clever enough and have enough cash you can even live better than in Paris or Berlin where you do not have crowds of avaliable teens.

If you orient yourself to 23-27 whyear old females (could still be by far my daughters. Ihihih) usually they are totally for free or for some gift or shopping. Duos, lesbos are quite normal.

One of the best pros ever found (in reality a Russian. English interpreter) L o l I t a. Who knows understands. Has been hired since 2009 as an interpreter from a businessman.

You know a horny fabolous, always wet. Skinny reddish almost lesbian wanting to go with you for her favourite sport: teen hunting. Can't even imagine. (PS the BBBJ + CIM + FACIAL + HJ of Miss L. Is still, for me, the best ever got.)

IT

[Lappgubbe]

I have read tips and reports from last summer that Shooters was quite hot. Is it still, or have the buisness moved? I will go to Kiev in the middle of May.

[It Travel]

Reading this thread, Mystery Tramp sounds familiar, but I can't remember who it was. Can you point to a post or two that explains?

Search only resulted in many threads and not to one or few posts.

Ah. Ah. Mistery Tramp.

You can ask may here.

At least 30 seniors drilled her the outstanding BBBJ + CIM in Kiev.

Some pics taken in the previous years to present her as far as I know no longer in activity.

[Prosal]

A guy I know (but I do not know if he whant this to be said) , in my age class is living in Kiev with a 21 whyear old blonde flower and partying at his home nearly every day up to 4-5 willing girls (almost well under 25.)

That's all.

IT

I'm not surprised. A foreigner living permanently (or semi permanently) in a FSU metropole, if he has a bit of "game", of cash and if he lives confortably, can score literally ad-nauseum.

I'd also love to live somewhere in FSU. Tashkent would be my first choice.