American Women

[ThatGuy865]

I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.

If pussy is all you want out of life. Then you have a good argument.

[Mr Enternational]

Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy.

The day before yesterday I was watching the documentary Inside Job. The hohouse lady was telling how the Wall Street guys would order up hookers for $1000 / hour. One guy even placed an order and told them the girl needed to pick him up in a Lamborghini. But it was cool; wasn't their money they were squandering.

[LittleTruths]

I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.

I must admitt that it doesn't sound too bad; cheap living and plenty of punani. One can already imagine wearing neither shirt nor shoes for months at a time in that kind of reality! LOL.

Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.

That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.

Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight.

Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy. In Saudi Arabia sheikhs possess whole harems of women all to themselves, it doesn't mean that the average arab fucker scores as well as the ones born into that level of privilege. If you have a billion in your pocket you might just as well live at the north pole and still you'd thunder "let there be hoe$" and hoe$ would be, no matter what. Look at Dubai; they have a freaking indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert! First time I was there got out the plane at 1:00 am and there were 40 damn degrees celsius, but you can still rock your skis and go down that chilly snowy slope.

[Mr Enternational]

This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.

Yeah it was definitely some bullshit. I don't know anyone who has even been to Melbourne, Australia, much less lives there. I don't know many guys who could even afford to buy a bowl of cereal in most of the cities they named. The most affordable ones are Capetown and Bogota. All the other ones are hella expensive. Maybe the article means the best places to go if you are a gold digging woman.

[Mr Enternational]

If you accept their value judgments. Personally, I might vote for Pattaya.

I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.

[ThatGuy865]

This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.

The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.

This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.

If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!

Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.

I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.

Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"

Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.

That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.

Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight.

[Artisttyp]

Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04...o-1-in-survey/

IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN!

This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.

The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.

This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.

If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!

Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.

I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.

Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"

[Bango Cheito]

"Colombian" is not a race, nor an ethnicity, it's a NATIONALITY, and also a geographic region. So you could say it smacks of nationalism :P Something like ability to dance is heavily dependent on where and how you were brought up, my whole point. It's not a "color" or DNA thing. So if you're black and dance good, it's a cultural thing. But being black or white is a purely physical phenomenon, which has nothing to do with culture.

Unfortunately I can't find the link to the study I read that talked about the decline and showed why it's actually more severe than the major news outlets let on. I'll have to call up the people who sent it to me and re-send the link.

The whole debate is about just that. People on this forum often think that Colombian women don't care about looks at all, that other things are important to them, becuase they don't know what time it is down here. I was precisely talking about those kinds of situations.

1) The women that go to those kinds of "husband seeking" events are the absolute bottom of the barrel here, they are desparate women who can't find their niche in society and are generally considered rejects and expendable. Hooking up with some fat foreigner is usually the last straw for them. They just happen to be better looking than your average AW because people here on average are so much better looking.

2) I never said money doesn't attract women. Gold diggers exist all over the place. What I said is attracting women by looks and other factors is actually more efficacious than attracting them by money, because with money you can lube a girl up, but you'll never get her wet to the extent that she'll get wet by seeing a guy that really is attractive to her five senses! Everything else is secondary. For example, I'm not as attractive as my friend, but I have a great voice. I will get women into bed with me by singing to them, but if I were in better shape it would be an even better experience.

3) Women are complex, and they tend to have different aspects that get presented in front of different people, depending on the situation. Men tend to be very one-dimensional and invariable in this manner. For example, I have a female friend who I met through my gorgeous male friend. She's a very open minded girl and very into sex and uninhibited. But that doesn't mean the whole world gets to see that part of her. Some guys she rejects outright (could be for one of many reasons, she's actually a bit of an exception that she really doesn't look for the Adonis type, but the guy could be too unkempt, or just too stupid, or not interesting enough, whatever). Some guys she will eventually fuck but make them take her out a couple times first while she makes the decision. Some guys she will fuck but instead of getting them to take her out she just demands money outright (the guys always seem to find the money hehehehe). Some guys she will fuck without expecting anything in return (the value of the sex to her is equal in this case, I fall into this category with her). Some guys (2 of my friends) she will pay their bus fare to come to her town (5 hours out of Bogota) , or even charge a local dude for sex and use the money to come and visit.

So these are the grades of attraction I'm talking about. Money is a definite factor, but if you're really on your game you don't even NEED money. To each his own, but I know where I want to be in the food chain. I want the women to conform to MY schedule, not viceversa. I want them paying their way and rearranging their schedule to be with me, not viceversa. I want them to see the value in me from jump, and act on it.

Another example, a girl who is MILDLY attracted to you will play the moral card and tell you things like "I want to know this is serious and that I'm not wasting my time with you". A girl who is WILDLY attracted to you, YOU set the terms of the relationship and she WILL accept them, as long as it means she gets to fuck you!

My big success story of last year was a girl in another town outside of Bogota who I met on a gig there. I made a big impression on her, and we wound up on a 2 month roller coaster ride. Best sex I've ever had, hands down. She charges up to 2 million a night, and no foreigner would even be able to enter via those channels, because she keeps a really low profile in that aspect. I'm very proud that I was able to land a dime piece like that who fucks better than many porn stars, without outlaying any money (I paid my transport and hotel room, she paid food and taxis etc in town) , especially since I'm still on the fat side. Part of it was the singing again, part of it was I landed a girl who isn't as strongly physically repulsed by fat as most women are here (as is my friend the example in #3). Still, it took till the 4th date before we fucked. If I were in perfect shape and a better dresser, guaranteed she woulda given up the pussy on the 1st date!

As for my regimen, I've had periods in both countries where I was more serious and disciplined and periods where I lazed off. The difference between being disciplined with the lifestyle and not is FAR less than the difference between the two environments and their general effect on my health. And it's a difference that shows up not only in my appearance but in my bloodwork as well!

I managed things much more differently in the US because first I was in a monogamous marriage and then when I broke it off, I still moved in many of the same circles and had to do the same thing girls here do, keep a low profile and maintain 6 degrees between my fun activities and the rest of my life. I was also employed by the catholic church up there, which meant a certain degree of discretion was in order. Here I'm employed by a bunch of hippies so I can pretty much be in the open here as long as I don't bring the orgy to the workplace. Plus when I WAS still married here to my 2nd wife it was an open marriage, so no secrets there!

Oh so you can say Colombians dance culturally and its cool. I say black americans dance culturally so they would fall in the same category. And that smacks as racism. Wow.

They don't seek money and LOOKS are SO important to COLOMBIAN women. Why is Colombia becoming a Mongering destination. And GUYS. OLD FAT GUYS are getting young non pros there too. How is that? You can read it on a lot of threads here.

And those party's where the colombian women go 100 to 10 guys seeking husbands. Mainly OLD OUT OF SHAPE AMERICAN's. Oh yeah. Its not because the American has MONEY. Right. Oh yeah. The guys must be great dancers. Yeah that's it.

I have NEVER seen an ad ANYWHERE where 100 AW will meet 10 foreign men in a party situation to seek husbands.

1st your info is wrong. Its like. 9 of a year. Insignificant in the real scope of things. And the latest report now says Life expectancy for Americans is at an all time high. So its constantly changing.

But one thing that has never changed. Its ALWAYS HIGHER THAN COLOMBIA. Even with so call "Bad food". In the USA life expectancy worst times it still beats Colombia.

Decline:

http://news.discovery.com/human/unit...cy-101210.html

Increase: more recent.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...8bfb40ecd99e64

And if you had that regime in the USA you just might have got some quality pussy there too. Obviously you didn't. Its there?

To each his own. That's one man's opinion. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I never dispute who is better than who. I only know there are "Good looking" with "great personality" AW just as there are in every country.

Just as there are FAT people in every country. And obesity is rising all over the WORLD in industrial countries.

[Member #2041]

Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04...o-1-in-survey/

IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN!

If you accept their value judgments. Personally, I might vote for Pattaya.

[Goga Fung]

Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04...o-1-in-survey/

IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN!

Did they mean for homosexual men.

Ok, I'm not saying NYC is bad. It's good in some ways, although expensive and way too metrosexual and homosexual.

Strange in the list of the "best for men" cities they did not include Moscow and St. Petersburg, Kiev, etc. But included places such Sanfrancisco, Kiyoto, Itsanbul. Does not make sense at all.

[ThatGuy865]

Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04...o-1-in-survey/

IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN!

[ThatGuy865]

Oh so you can say Colombians dance culturally and its cool. I say black americans dance culturally so they would fall in the same category. And that smacks as racism. Wow.

2) I date in all social circles, I have no prejudices. The one thing I see is that the lower-class a woman is here, the MORE she is into how you look. For that matter, something else lost on the average North American but very much present down here, class has NOTHING to do with your bank balance. And LESS to do with your passport. Class is a completely different concept. Having a blue passport here means you're a foreinger and they envy your ability to go over the world without a visa. It might make you a conversation piece. If you think it buys you admiration and respect in any way shape or form you are really fucking fooling yourself. It may possibly generate the perception that you have lots of money and start people thinking about the best way to separate you from it. That's about it son.

They don't seek money and LOOKS are SO important to COLOMBIAN women. Why is Colombia becoming a Mongering destination. And GUYS. OLD FAT GUYS are getting young non pros there too. How is that? You can read it on a lot of threads here.

And those party's where the colombian women go 100 to 10 guys seeking husbands. Mainly OLD OUT OF SHAPE AMERICAN's. Oh yeah. Its not because the American has MONEY. Right. Oh yeah. The guys must be great dancers. Yeah that's it.

I have NEVER seen an ad ANYWHERE where 100 AW will meet 10 foreign men in a party situation to seek husbands.

3) The "same quality women" don't exist in the USA. And it's really really ignorant to claim the food isn't any worse. Look at the goddamn life expetancy. It's dropped by 9 years in one generation. That's SCARYYYY. I'm on a regimen now because the 7 inchest I lost off my waist aren't enough down here. They're more than enough to put me officially in the "good looking" category anywhere in the low-standards having USA but here women expect guys to be in REAL good shape. Which brings me to.

1st your info is wrong. Its like. 9 of a year. Insignificant in the real scope of things. And the latest report now says Life expectancy for Americans is at an all time high. So its constantly changing.

But one thing that has never changed. Its ALWAYS HIGHER THAN COLOMBIA. Even with so call "Bad food". In the USA life expectancy worst times it still beats Colombia.

Decline:

http://news.discovery.com/human/unit...cy-101210.html

Increase: more recent

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...8bfb40ecd99e64

And if you had that regime in the USA you just might have got some quality pussy there too. Obviously you didn't. Its there?

4) I've always gone on the record here as saying Colombian women are NOT easy prey. They are actually famous in Latin America for being the women who most make men jump through flaming hoops before giving anything in return. I totally concede and agree that I could get laid far easier in NYC or Miami or LA than here in Bogota. But now that I live here WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT TO? That would be like going back to Mickey D's after tasting the filet mignon.

To each his own. That's one man's opinion. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I never dispute who is better than who. I only know there are "Good looking" with "great personality" AW just as there are in every country.

Just as there are FAT people in every country. And obesity is rising all over the WORLD in industrial countries.

[Bango Cheito]

1) People who put effort into being good dancers, who bother to learn the steps and who spend the hours in front of a mirror are good dancers. They could be black or white. Your statement smacks of racism. There's nothing in black people's DNA that prioritizes dancing over mathematics :P the subculture in which one lives in may be a different story. Colombians are by and large NOT black but are better dancers than most Americans of ANY color, because it's a big part of the culture here. That's actually the typical fucked-up gringo attitude that will get you nowhere fast here."I'm black so I have it in my blood". Then you come down here and the locals are dancing CIRCLES around you :P.

2) I date in all social circles, I have no prejudices. The one thing I see is that the lower-class a woman is here, the MORE she is into how you look. For that matter, something else lost on the average North American but very much present down here, class has NOTHING to do with your bank balance. And LESS to do with your passport. Class is a completely different concept. Having a blue passport here means you're a foreinger and they envy your ability to go over the world without a visa. It might make you a conversation piece. If you think it buys you admiration and respect in any way shape or form you are really fucking fooling yourself. It may possibly generate the perception that you have lots of money and start people thinking about the best way to separate you from it. That's about it son.

3) The "same quality women" don't exist in the USA. And it's really really ignorant to claim the food isn't any worse. Look at the goddamn life expetancy. It's dropped by 9 years in one generation. That's SCARYYYY. I'm on a regimen now because the 7 inchest I lost off my waist aren't enough down here. They're more than enough to put me officially in the "good looking" category anywhere in the low-standards having USA but here women expect guys to be in REAL good shape. Which brings me to.

4) I've always gone on the record here as saying Colombian women are NOT easy prey. They are actually famous in Latin America for being the women who most make men jump through flaming hoops before giving anything in return. I totally concede and agree that I could get laid far easier in NYC or Miami or LA than here in Bogota. But now that I live here WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT TO? That would be like going back to Mickey D's after tasting the filet mignon.

By that theory blacks in america been on that game since the beginning of time. Cause blacks as we know have a reputation for being good dancers. So a good looking black from america should clean up there.

There are alot of poor guys on welfare in America screwing plenty of women. Same with trailor park dwellers. Or the poor in projects in NY. So then I guess AW arent looking for money either. Its just women of their same level of income or lower.

If you stated you were dating a lot of beautiful young wealthy women from wealthy families. Not just the occasional I dated a lawyer one time. But that you regularly easily date upper middle class to wealthy women. Then a statement. Colombian women don't see money is believeable.

As long as you have USA citizenship, I don't care how much you make in real currency. Just that citizenship makes you at minimum, middle class, if not upper middle class in every country in the WORLD.

That is the perception no matter what the reality is. And as we all know perception is reality.

A lot of guys would tell you hat what you are doing in Colombia. If you do that in the USA. You get the same quality women. That's working out to get in shape, dressing well, and doing all you can to look your best. And like you said. You'll attract women. Because there are women EVERYWHERE who like good looking and guys who take care of themselves. So they give them a try. Its the same the WORLD over.

And don't fool yourself the food in Colombia is no better. The food one eats is a choice. America has organic foods at every store.

If you want to eat healthy you can. If a person want to eat fast food they can.

Farmers in Colombia use pesticides just like anywhere else. Especially the industrial farms.

[Cuero99]

A story written about a thing that calls itself Kay Hymowitz is one that begs to be ignored. Enough said

Sure she is a nasty feminist with an agenda and I don't like her, but still there is some 50% or so of truth in that article.

[Goga Fung]

Some probaby have already seen this. An interesting video summarizing a Typical American Relationship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj3CC...eature=related

Also look at the comments people leave there.