East China - Shanghai

[SteelBaton]

Wrap-up for the night: three different girls and three very different experiences each offering something different (as detailed in the 3 prior posts)

* PINK LIGHT GIRL. Probably the most exciting body – very fresh, young, tight, but the most forced service – needed some persuading and wasn't used to what I wanted, but eventually complied; took her into some new territory; best fuck, sweetest young body. Atmosphere of the place was decidely down-scale, a little edgy, but clean.

The Pinks are an experience that one doesn't find outside of China, although they are a little similiar to brothels in Cambodia, but much cleaner. The Pinks are certainly the cheapest option. 300-500 RMB, but there is huge range of quality from grandmothers to fresh young girls, and a lot of variability in the service depending on you and the girl you choose. The most challenging but, potentially rewarding depending on your tastes and style.

* SAUNA GIRL (Waves, #906) was most complete service, best BBBJ, very hot girl – probably the most traditionally pretty, but a bit mechanical, could tell she had done it all a hundred times before.

Sauna are a very "controlled" atmosphere, up-scale, clean, safe-feeling. Best place to see in advance what you are getting due to the well-lighted fish bowl and generally skimpy clothing. Very similiar to the Macao-type saunas, but with fewer menu options (e. G. No special "ball massage" girl). Easiest option for a newbie and highest likelihood of good experience with a hottie, but expect mechanical and hope for GFE."Reasonable" price for Shanghai of 800-900 RMB. (US$100)

* MANHATTEN GIRL / Leah – pretty, but #3 compared to the other 2 girls of the night, still a solid 8+/10 if you don't mind the small tits, most GFE service, relaxed, unhurried, cuddly, and she spoke English which the other two didn't. Bars were the only option for LT. And, there is something nice about having the girl in your hotel room so you can just stay in bed and she leaves. But picking the girl is always a bit of potluck since you can't see them that well but you can talk with them to get a sense of connection. So high chance that you'll get a GFE experience, but more risk in the type of body and looks you'll find when you have her undressed and in the light of the bedroom. At 1500 RMB (US$182) most expensive, unless you really want to bargain. Which blows a lot of time, but might save you 500 RMB.

I could repeat with only one, I would try the Pink Light girl again and see if I could build on how far she went. If you like variety in your evenings, I can recommend the full menu, but it will cost you.

Total damage was 3, 500 RMB / US$425 (including 800 for Dragon) which while much (much) higher than I normally spend was acceptable considering the circumstances of limited time, one night, and a desire to see a lot. It was 3 girls (2 ST. 1 LT) over 12 hours. 4 pops, and covered much what was available in Shanghai. Still missed an escort girl (will try that in Beijing) and a KTV which I hate so nothing missed there for me.

A last comment on Dragon. His fee was 800, but he covered all the transport costs, I picked up his dinner. He is nice guy and knows the P4P scene like the back of his hand. His Chinese and knowledge of locations was essential for me getting the full range of experiences that I was after in an efficient 4 hours or so. He is a straight shooter guy, good company, and not trying to hustle anyone. I would recommend him for sure if you want to try the pinks, as I think you might struggle to find these unless you live in Shanghai and have plenty of time or if the board has some current locations and you can speak Chinese. If you already know what sauna you want and can get a taxi driver there (a lot of these drivers have no clue where anything is even major hotels, even if you have a map and an address – it's like they just moved to Shanghai which, of course, most did) or if you are just hoping to pickup something at Manhatten's then you can probably do fine solo.

[SteelBaton]

i was stilling feeling frisky and asked about another street with some pinks to troll through before going to manhatten, but dragon said nothing was very close and as i had a deadline of being back at my hotel my 11:30, bird in hand, i let it go. we took a cab straight there.

manhattan was looking very good at 10:30 on a sunday night. the bar is medium sized with a small dance floor in the back and a long bar on the right hand side as you enter. (the location is well described in other threads). the bar had maybe 100+ girls in groups of 3-5 around stand up tables with high chairs. music was not to loud. as usual, everybody know dragon and said hi. as noted elsewhere 100% of the talent in the bar are foreign girls, mostly vietnamese, filipinas, some other se asian girls. there were maybe 15-20 guys max, so 5:1 ratio.

this was a pretty high quality mix of girls compared to what you might find on the 4 floors of working girls in singapore or in martinis in pp, cambodia, but not as high-end as the girls at the grand hyatt, singapore.

it was a decent atmosphere, not too loud, or too smokey. i cruised around the bar several times and saw several possibles. my preference is for slim girls with decent tits and seeing this in a dark bar environment is generally hard. most of the filapinas, while offering nice tits and gfe smiles seemed a little short and chunky for my taste. kinda was looking for a mongolian or maybe a russian or slavic girl for a change, but they were pretty much 99% southeast asian, ranging from 6 – 9s.

dragon had sat down at a table of vietnamese near the front door and had a bottle of johnny walker black sitting in front of him – never figured where that came from. so i joined him and checked out the group. after getting a couple of the girls to sit in my lap or stand between my legs so i could run my hand over their bodies and separate the thin from the those with stomach paunch, i found a nice looking vietnamese who said she was 22. i asked about her family and confirmed that she didn't have a baby – it is such a disappointment to get one of these girls home and find a belly of stretchmarks. she had very pale skin and was from hanoi. said this was her second trip to china and was 5 days into a 30 day visa. i like it when the girls have a little experience – second trip shows that they know what is expected and are willing to come back to the job a second time. i've been with some first trip girls in singapore or in hong kong and it can be bad – they don't really want to be there and are just waiting out their visa before going home.

and so the negotiations began for lt. she wanted 2000 and i offered 1000. after walking away and coming back i hoped she might accept 1000 but she never offered less than 2000. eventually, tiring of the game, i just grabbed her hand and said '1500 lets go' and we did.

'leah' had a respectable dress on and so i just escorted her past the doorman and into the elevator at the sheraton with no problem. she asked for the money up front and i had to explain to her that wasn't the way it worked. she played shy in the room and undressed and showered.

when she got out i showered myself and came out to find her naked across the top of the bed. body was great looking but her hits were very small – fooled again by those damn padded bras that they all seem to were. i guess the lesson is that if they aint showing real cleavage, they don't have it. anyway, she was a really sweet thing and extremely flexiable. very gfe including some light dfk. made the usual remark about comparing my dick to her thin arm – 'same same' but, when i got inside her it was clear she could handle it – she was an easy 2 fingers and deep. decent bbbj, but some resistance to face-fucking, couldn't take more than a couple of inches. in the end fucked her a few different ways with some convincing moans from her speeding me to end.

she then asked me for the money again – i explained that i would pay her in the morning and not to worry about it. couldn't really tell if she was worried i wouldn't pay or wanted to just leave early. after a little back and forth, i said hell, i'll give you half now and half in the morning. seemed fair to me and if she left it wouldn't be the end of the world as i was pretty tired from the evening. but she stayed and it was nice to have that thin young body next to me, kept waking up feeling her.

finally around 5:00 am i couldn't keep my hands off her and started playing with her pussy, which began to get nicely wet. in fact i could feel a pool of pussy juice building up in the bottom of her twat as i fingered her harder. that got me off so much i just blew across her body. she laid with me a while then cleaned up and dressed. i paid her the rest of the money and she left. (sorry i forgot to get her number as i was leaving in the morning)

conclusion: aside from the asking for $$, a fairly sweet gfe experience

[SteelBaton]

Dragon has been saying that he thinks the sauna will give me exactly what I want and so after a meal at the local Hooters, we head out for his favourite place on the west side: Waves. I hadn't heard of this from the forum and ask about the other more frequently mentioned places like 999, Sacrosa, etc. He says we can try those, but they are a long drive from where we are and we might as well have a look.

Wave seems like a Macao-style place, but I haven't been to other mainland China saunas, so may be there is no difference. Anyway, we arrive at a check in desk – everyone knows Dragon and says Hi, we go up to the lockerroom and change into a pair of pajamas. Dragon says he'll help me until I find a girl but will be waiting for me in one the resting tea rooms when I finish. The place is not crowded at 9:00 pm on a Sunday night. A few Japanese and Chinese, no other round eyes besides me.

Go to a fish bowl. There were about 10 girls, most 7+. I had asked Dragon if there was anyone he recommended and he had two numbers which I have forgot, but one was something like 678 who he says is a squirter – two fingers long and hard in her and eventually she'll just flood. That sounded interesting since I've never personally experienced this (actually thought squirters were a bit of a myth). Anyway his recommended girls were not there, so I found two that looked skinny enough for my taste and possible B+/C cups depending on the pushup bra they were wearing. I asked the papasam for a recommendation between the two, he didn't hesitate and said '# 906'

She came out, took my hand and we went up in the elevator to the 3rd or 4th floor and into a nice room. One half is a firm bed divided by a mirrored glass wall from a soapy shower table and a normal shower. Undressed her and she me and she gave me a nice shower, then covered the soapy table with a large piece of thin plastic that provided a nice sanitary barrier. Laid me on my face and began the normal wash my feet, legs, ass, and back with her C cup tits, nice little nipples that firmed up. Then did the whole thing again with her hairy pussy – nice sort of rough Brillo pad scrubbing and defoliating. Did the flip and repeated on my front side with nice long strokes over my cock. Plenty of opportunities for fondling and fingering. No kissing. She then rinsed me off and lead me around to the bed.

Usual licking and cat bath before she started sucking. Petty good oral, certainly well trained. I then stood up on the bed and got her on sitting on her knees so that I could fuck her face and get her to suck my balls. She resisted this a bit – could tell that normally she deals with passive guys who just let themselves be 'seduced'. But after a bit I got her taking it with my hands on her head and her hands by her side. I like it when the girl can take it a little deep and her mouth gets really wet and slippery from a near gag. After that some normal mish sex, a bit sideways, and finished with doggy. Nice watching her profile in the mirror as those tits were swinging as I pounded her ass.

Conclusion – very pretty girl, good / great service, everything but anal on the menu. However, it was a bit mechanical. I will say she had a gorgeous pussy with pink lips and a thick clit nicely hooded. DATY was nice and I usually don't do much of that. If you are looking for a straight forward sexual adventure with a good looking girl, this sauna at least delivered it. Would definitely repeat with her – didn't get a name but number is 906.

After that washed up and the girl lead me to a private room with a couple of big arm chairs and a TV where Dragon was waiting eating some fruit. He hadn't had a girl and was just chilling while I finished. Went down and paid the price that was listed on the board. 885 RMB or so I think. I am fairly confident that Dragon wasn't getting any kickbacks, but if they slipped him something, it didn't change the price I had paid. I got a card from Waves – but the only ones where only in Chinese so I really can't read anything but the phone number: 6275 9948

[SteelBaton]

Dragon met me at the hotel, was actually early, which was nice. He is half Chinese, raised in the west, and fluent in English, Mandarin, Shanghaiese, and another dialect or two.

First stop: Pink lights / BBS: We grabbed a taxi and he directed the driver to a street somewhere in the middle of the urban area – I couldn't really follow where we were and didn't worry about it. The driver needed pretty detailed directions and corrections so I don't get the feeling I couldn't have handed him a slip of paper and he could have gotten me there, so Dragon was helpful.

We got out and I could see there were a few shops with curtains and pink lights. Dragon said that there had been a raid a while ago and three-quarters of the shops were gone, but some new ones had opened or old ones reopened. (He assured me that the raids just target the owners and he wasn't aware of any patrons being hassled – he has been in Shanghai for 7 or 8 years and pretty close to the P4P scene so I guess he is as good a source as any. Anyway, I felt comfortable.) He had a favourite shop or two but I checked out some others on my own.

Usual deal, walk into small store front with curtains and pink or white lights. See 4-8 girls sitting around watching TV or on their phones, some dressed to kill, some in their pyjamas. Most not especially attractive to me and I browsed through 4 shops without finding anything of interest. Asked Dragon if there were another areas for more Pinks – I guess they move around a bit and between the Expo and some raids they have popped up in new places.

So got another cab and Dragon directed the driver to another darkish street about 10 minutes away. Finally in 6th shop there was a young looking, thin, light-skinned girl about average height with a pretty face – I'the give her body a 8+/10 and face 8/10. Dragon talked to the mamasan in Chinese and confirmed that BBBJ was on the menu – a must for me and I was led by the hand into the back. The girl gestured for me to wait and she went up to a ceiling to floor empty wooden bookshelf which to my surprise, she slide to the right opening into a stair well. Cool! Very 007 but in a low-tech brothel way.

We went upstairs and into a hall that had a half dozen doors, she opened the first one and we went into a small room with a single bed. Everything looked clean, but certainly not posh – plywood walls & bed with cheap foam mattress, no bathroom or sink, not much paint, but clean sheets. She locks the door and then gestures at my crotch like she wants to see my dick. I'm like 'show me yours and I'll show you mine' but I whip it out and she looks it over – seems to meet with her approval. Not sure if she was looking for cleanliness or making sure it wasn't too big.

(Some of these girls seem to have enormous fears of enormous dicks that will almost kill them. Dragon said there was a rumour going around about some country girl who made the mistake of going back to the hotel of a western man. She was found in the morning unconscious and bleeding from her pussy. Who knows?)

My girl takes off half of her clothes – her bra and panties, but leaves on the very short skirt and skimpy top and I undress and she pulls out a baby wipe and cleans my cock, then gives me a little lame BBBJ for about 60 seconds and then pulls out a rubber – I say no way, she implies yes must have condom, I say no way. So then the most bizarre thing happens: she nods ok no condom, I think we'll go back to BBBJ, but she proceeds to pull out a piece of plastic food wrap and tries to wrap that around my meat like, well, like it was a piece of meat going back into the fridge. At that point, I can see this is going nowhere and I put my clothes back on. She seems cool with that and dresses and we go down stairs.

I explain to Dragon the situation and say that she won't do a BBBJ. We are just about to leave, (and I think we could have without paying anything) , when I notice another slim, young, girl back in a corner. I ask about her. Dragon talks with the mamasan and the girl, who seems fine with the terms.

Girl number 2, Mimi (?) is about 20, slim with B cups, flawless skin, and sweet face. We go back to the same room, passing through the sliding bookcase, which I now see can be hooked closed from the inside. She, like the other girl won't fully undress, but she takes off all the necessary bits. She has a very sweet body, incredibly tight, young, and soft skin. Her pussy, like all I have met in China, is unshaved but she has light and fine hair down there, silky and very thin. When I lay her down she puts her arms over her head and I can see that she doesn't shave under her arms, but again it is this super light, downy soft, very short peach fuzz hair and actually kinda turns me on. (She is clearly of age before anyone starts thinking other things.)

Unlike a lot of Asian girls, her pussy has nice thick lips and a pink, rather than brown, skin tones. Very nice. She gives pretty good oral, but not great, still enough for me. She balks when I want to finger that sweet little twat and clearly wants me to just fuck her and be done. So I pull out a 100 rmb ($15) and put it on the table. She settles down and lets me do pretty much what I want but needs some coaxing and cajouling. I generally have found if you are willing to tip, are firm, but polite, eventually the girl will warm-up a bit and do what you want. Even if you don't speak a common language.

When I finally get my finger in her, I don't know if I can get back, she is that tight. (I brought some lubricant along and was happy I did) Anyway, eventually I fuck her, slowly at first – cause it takes her young pussy a while to stretch. In a couple of positions and cum doggy style. Very satisfying. I let her keep the 100, actually I have to take it off the table and put it in her hand, she seemed reluctant to take it, not sure why. Downstairs I give her another 300 RMB. Probably only needed to pay 200, but I liked her and she spent more time than normal with me. Not GFE but not the usual cold slam-bam-thank-you. If I were in town for longer, I would certainly repeat and I expect I could have built some trust. Dragon says most of the Chinese guys are in and out in 20 minutes or less and that's what the girls expect. So paying a little more, getting better service, and having her for an hour doesn't bother me. $60 well spent, IMHO.

[SteelBaton]

Got into Shanghai airport (Pudong) at 6:00 am and grabbed a taxi to my hotel, the Sheraton Hongqiao, which is on the west side of town. (Can't recall what it cost, but not too much and had to show the driver the address in Chinese) I had confirmed with Dragon, who I had arranged for a "night tour", that I would be arriving early, taking a nap, and then would like to hit the town around 6:30 pm or so. He was responsive about answering e-mails and we worked out a plan around what I was interested in:

1) Pink lights / BBS: I like these places for a change. Most of the girls are not that hot, but if you look around you can usually find a fresh one that meets my interests: 18-24 yo, thin, decent tits, and nice face. From there it is a bit of crapshoot what type of service you'll get, but these young girls are pretty fresh from the farm and so some of the fun is seeing what you can convince them to do. Naturally, I speak no Chinese, so that makes it harder.

2) Then grab dinner.

3) Off to a sauna for what I expect will be a much higher quality service, but perhaps more mechanical. I've RTFF and have the usual names (Sarcosa. 999, etc.) but am going to take Dragon's suggestion since that is why I am paying him. Expecting to find, hoping to find, a hot looking Chinese.

4) Lastly, if I have some juice left, swing by Manhattan or another bar to see if we can find a sweet young thing for LT. Expecting this to be a Filipina or Vietnamese, both of which I like. Most posts say not much happening here until 10:30 or so. Plan is to get there pretty close to then and then get a girl and get back to hotel by 11:00 pm since I have an early business meeting.

[Sparky88]

Hi,

New to the forum and new to the MP scene in SH. Interested in oily massage with HE, but prefer to avoid locker / waiting room scene.

On Wuzhong lu I noticed a place that I think was called Hansa Massage Club. Is this really a club, or open to anyone with no surcharge etc. Is it similar to the one's across the street from it? If anyone has been, I'd be interested in reading what it is like.

If I make it back that way, I may give it a try and report.

Thanks!

[EsotericHuangpu]

Anyone know any current BBS locations near downtown Shanghai? Or neighboring areas?

Anyway I decided to stroll around Zhabei, figuring there must be a string of BBS's in there somewhere. I didn't find a string, but I did find one single location. Wujin and Jiangxi are the cross streets. Place is familair pink lighting illuminating from a spot that's about halfway down the block. West from the intersection mentioned. Was open at 3am. Usual price. Almost usual deal (the girl led me through a back door, out the building, down an alley, into a room she had the key to). The event was like what one expects from BBS.

[Jude Bright]

CL is a waste of time stateside also.

I'm headed for Shanghai end of April, staying on Nanjing East Road at 5-star hotel. First time in Shanghai.

Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.

Thanks!

A couple tips: Rather than go thought millions of posts, If you like sauna, you can search for sauna. If you like KTV, you ca search for KTV. If you like a specific poster, you may right click the name and you get all the posts by that dude. Enjoy your time in SH.

JB

[Gao Xing]

Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.

Try reading the forum for a couple more days and you'll have all the tips you need

[Drenas1985]

CL is a waste of time, don't bother. Mostly rip off pros posting.

MAB

CL is a waste of time stateside also.

I'm headed for Shanghai end of April, staying on Nanjing East Road at 5-star hotel. First time in Shanghai.

Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.

Thanks!

[Ringer5]

As others have mentioned, Craigslist is a bad option. If you don't feel like navigating the crowd at Manhattan, try something like 999.

I had a wander through Manhattan last Saturday night, first time there for me. What an interesting selection of people to be met.

One of the barmen tried to pull the old "here's your change for 50. No, you didn't give me 100" routine, didn't even try to look embarrassed when I called him on it. Buyer beware, every step of the way!

[Mike921]

I think 999 does give you that option.

The plan 'B' option at Dream Spa does as well. I think it's ~1200RMB

[Mock A Bee]

CL is a waste of time, don't bother. Mostly rip off pros posting.

MAB

[Mock A Bee]

...I mentioned that I had heard of him. He asked if it was from a friend and I told him that I had read about him on the internet. He was surprised – and I was surprised that he didn't know about ISG!

I concur that it is absolutely a bad Idea to let service providers know about ISG. They will just muck up the board with crap.

It is bad enough that various metropolitan police departments actively read this board to know where the action is, including SH LE. The last thing we need are touts advertising here.

One time a few years ago, during a crackdown, a prominent member in Beijing posted about an invite only private party with Mongolian girls, and the police were waiting for them with a paddy wagon. Yes, it was a big mess.

Also, in the past some girls have found this site through members and they eventually realized pictures were posted.

MAB

[Disch]

Hey guys,

Its been a few years since I been to this place, any one know if its still operational? Its close by Holiday Inn Great Wall Wing and Plaza Wing. Had a few good time there. I wonder if its still open and hows it is now. I have not seen it on this forum for a while.

Thanks in advance