American Women

[Wet Nose]

Recently Kay Hymowitz's book came out. Where have all the good men gone?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle1929246/

The comments on the article were revealing:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...9246/comments/

A sample:

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Fembot: What happened to all the good guys?

Men: You did!

And here is why?

1. Feminism intentionally drove a wedge between the sexes, you lose if you're over 30.

2. You are a nag.

3. You talk too much about irrelevant stuff.

4. You are overly emotional.

5. You over value your looks.

6. Men don't like older women.

7. You are quickly passing child rearing years.

8. You don't put out.

9. You have put out too much in your 20s.

10. You act superior despite being a basket case, you're fake.

11. You have the courts at your back to rob a man of his assets (many men know this now)

12. You can rob a man of his children (many men know this now)

13. You can falsely accuse a man of sexual assault and not face jail (men go ghost)

14. You can lie about domestic violence and rob a man of his home (men go ghost)

15. You view men as wallets.

16. You treat men as success objects instead of human beings.

17. You date bad boys and thugs, then visit the psychologist and ask,"why"?

18. You can cheat in a marriage, and still cash out his assets and get the children.

19. Despite bragging about independence, you still require alimony if he makes more than you.

20. You can force him into fatherhood against his will; usually correlated with his income.

It's amazing the author is blaming men. Men have checked out because the price is too high and the value very LOW.

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Here's the crux of the issue. Its not that men are man-childs. Men are in fact the more self reliant gender and better at, and more comfortable with, going it alone. Women tend to be more interested in unnecessary material possessions while men are more interested in the good life of enjoyable experiences.

Many male interests can be purchased if necessary (including sex) , and men have the biological advantage of being able to father children at almost any age. Accordingly men are more likely to be satisfied with the single life than women are. For us to give that up, the reward has to be worth the sacrifice. Traditional gender roles did this for the most part.

Over the past 50 years women have progressed to have more opportunities and can earn more money than ever before. All well and good. But what has gone hand in hand with this progress is the greater threat women pose to men.

Upon divorce, men can and are routinely (1) excluded from seeing their children, (2) made to pay spousal support, and (3) forced to give up half of the assets that they earned on their own. Meanwhile women are providing less incentives than before for marriage. It used to be that the one primary benefit of getting married was that you could have sex without any moral frowning by others. Now however, sex can be readily had outside of marriage, while its frequency during marriage has tended to drop.

So what is the value for men to get married? They get less and are victimized more. Moreover, as nice as it is that women are making more money, no self respecting man looks at a woman as a financial object other than to make sure she's not a financial basket case that is going to cost him what he has built. We have no princess fantasy that some woman is going to ride along and take our problems away. Men's requirements from marriage can be simply put as being with someone we enjoy for the long term.

So when we see that women are responsible for 80% of divorces and are rewarded for them at our expense, the problem is not man childs, but woman childs who are prone to take their ball home as soon as things don't go their way, and the ball was probably brought into the relationship by the man. The more relevat question is where have all the real women gone? Time to woman up ladies. We can make it fine on our own if need be. Can you?

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[EstebanH]

That is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the USA. I live in Australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. Its in America, where you are poor, you are fucked. Europe is also way superior to America in this regard.

America sucks ass these days. Fuck the USA.

You need to go fuck yourself, asshole

[Member #2041]

Fortunately a fair number of them are either drunk or high (often both) a good portion of the time. Really is it that different anywhere else? Tell me where you can consistently have one night stands (for free) with good-looking, young, classy (sober) women on a regular basis and I'm there.

Who said anything about "classy"?

[TheStrongest]

... it is almost impossible to have a fling with a good-looking young American girl unless she is drunk or high...

Fortunately a fair number of them are either drunk or high (often both) a good portion of the time. Really is it that different anywhere else? Tell me where you can consistently have one night stands (for free) with good-looking, young, classy (sober) women on a regular basis and I'm there.

[Member #2041]

It is the best of times. It is the worst of times. Life in the US is great for the monger with a good reliable income. There are a lot of desperate women that have fallen on lean times. The credit card companies tightened the noose around their necks and opulent lifestyles on borrowed money came to sudden halt. Men got hit pretty hard by the recession so there are less suckers willing or able to take women shopping or pay their bills. Instead of doing without, a lot of women have turned to hooking. Those positioned to take advantage of the local market couldn't be happier.

This is the absolute truth. I live in San Diego, and I happened to retire comfortably after cashing out in the tech bubble. I used to travel overseas many times a year, and go down to Tijuana every couple of weeks when I was home to get my action. Nowadays, there is an extreme abundance of supply of hookers at great prices right here in the USA. I haven't been to Tijuana in a year, because I can't justify the 40 minute each way drive, and then the border wait, when I can find all the pussy I want on the American side of the border. I've been paying generally $80-100 for half hour FS sessions from good looking ladies who also provide good service, and occasionally as low as $60. That's a Tijuana price, and it can be gotten here in San Diego. I've even been getting BBBJ from many of the ladies I see at those prices, and the ones that don't, are generally stunners in looks.

Nowadays, whenever I call a new lady and she quotes me a price in the 3 digit range, I ask them if they can do $80 for a half hour, and more often than not, they say sure, no problem. These chicks need cash, and if you have it and are ready to spend it right now, the world is your oyster. I've got a handful of regulars who are reliable, and give me 30 minute sessions with DATY and BBBJ for $80, and I keep adding more ladies to the list. At those prices, I've been hitting it around twice a week over the past several months right here in San Diego.

[DJ FourMoney]

Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:

1. Has anyone that mongers in the USA on here noticed an increase in the amount of girls selling themselves in this country? It seems like every apartment complex / chain hotel in my area has women hooking out of them. Just today I got back from a two-bedroom apartment only 10 miles from where I live that has essentially been converted into an Asian brothel. Has this always been going on and I'm just late to the party, or is this a recent phenomenon because of the economy?

2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones?

3. Gas is at $4. 29 / gal for regular here in CA, gold is at $1, 500 / oz. And USA dollar is at a three-year low. Can anyone else say double dip?

I can.

I think when gas hits $5 a gallon as the national average, not just California all bets are off.

[Chocha Monger]

It is the best of times. It is the worst of times. Life in the US is great for the monger with a good reliable income. There are a lot of desperate women that have fallen on lean times. The credit card companies tightened the noose around their necks and opulent lifestyles on borrowed money came to sudden halt. Men got hit pretty hard by the recession so there are less suckers willing or able to take women shopping or pay their bills. Instead of doing without, a lot of women have turned to hooking. Those positioned to take advantage of the local market couldn't be happier.

A lot of Americans saw their dreams of home ownership dashed and their job security blown away like leaves on an autumn wind. Rising gas prices hasn't helped. Most Americans love their large SUVs and trucks. Rather than change their vehicles and driving habits they chafe at the higher price at the pump. It's a perfect storm of frustration that manifests itself is rudeness and dour dispositions.

Fear and loathing is definitely at an all time high. I am not surprised that single women and middle aged people may be buying guns for the first time in increasing numbers. I know a few people who turned guns on themselves at the height of the recession when all hope was lost.

[Britisher]

This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.

The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.

This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.

If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!

Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.

I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.

Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"

I completely support Artisttyp. The NYC is a big dud. A hellhole.

[BlackCoffee]

Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:

2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones?

I know one thing for sure; I'm a gun dealer in VA. And I see a lot of single women and middle aged folks buying guns for the first time. The fear is palpable. BC

[Ezinho]

Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!

Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:

1. Has anyone that mongers in the USA on here noticed an increase in the amount of girls selling themselves in this country? It seems like every apartment complex / chain hotel in my area has women hooking out of them. Just today I got back from a two-bedroom apartment only 10 miles from where I live that has essentially been converted into an Asian brothel. Has this always been going on and I'm just late to the party, or is this a recent phenomenon because of the economy?

2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones?

3. Gas is at $4. 29 / gal for regular here in CA, gold is at $1, 500 / oz. And USA dollar is at a three-year low. Can anyone else say double dip?

[Australiasucks]

Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!

I was responding to Chocha, he said that all around the world you need money to get pussy, its not necessarily true, and its not true in Australia. Many guys get laid who not have boatloads of money.

[Capt Ajax]

That is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the USA. I live in Australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. Its in America, where you are poor, you are fucked. Europe is also way superior to America in this regard.

America sucks ass these days. Fuck the USA.

Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!

[Australiasucks]

pussy access is part of a meritocracy. if you earned or inherited mad paper then you'll have all the access to pussy that you could ever want or need. poor men will always be denied access to quality pussy. it's just the way our species work. the men who are better at accumulating wealth, power, and status get to bust big ass nuts in the prettiest girls. the poor guys with little and nothing can cream in their hands or [CodeWord123]. that's just the way it is. even mongering is not exempt from economic reality. the higher quality girls charge more for their services. mongering does allow poor guys to scrape together some funds from time to time for a shot at some quality ass but it doesn't truly allow them to cheat the system. guys from the lower eco-economic strata who import women from abroad will find that they cannot hold on to those women for long as they inevitably trade up. the laws of nature apply. this is not a bad thing. if unsuccessful men were allowed the same access to top tier pussy as successful ones our society, and indeed, our entire species would collapse. it makes sense for nature to reward wealthy ambitious men with good pussy and to prevent the failures from breeding or limiting their options to women on their level. even animals protect the integrity of their dna in a similar manner.

that is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the usa. i live in australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. its in america, where you are poor, you are fucked. europe is also way superior to america in this regard.

america sucks ass these days. fuck the usa.

[Mr Enternational]

When probed by Stern regarding Arquette's reported advances on Cox during a trip to Disney World with their daughter Coco. 6, the actress said frankly,"It was early in the morning. This is one of our problems in our relationship. Whenever I would need consoling from David, he could not literally put his arm around me for one second without completely getting a boner."

How is that a problem? She should enjoy it while it lasts.

[Dickhead]

Well, I am almost eligible for parole after eight long months in SP. Fortunately I got down to Argentina for 23 days and Costa Rica for 6 so I managed to stay sort of sane. The medical marijuana was very helpful in that regard. Basically I just stayed totally baked and worked my ass off. Screwed a total of four AW in eight months and none of them were any good. The one who was even average was a complete nut job. I guess it was a success because I saved up about forty grand (I worked two jobs most of the time and three jobs the first two months) , got a bunch of medical work done because the insurance was good, and now I can fuck off on unemployment and COBRA for a good long while. Too bad I have to go back to smoking bunk, though.