Kyiv

[ATexGuy]

I have my spring trip planned for next week and am off to Kiev. After reading through so many of the postings, it's obvious that the "bait and switch" is all too common in Kiev. I have been on mamba for the last two weeks collecting contact info and it does appears that many girls are too good to be true. I'm still going to the roll the dice and try to line up some afternoon dates. At night, I will likely hit Rio and some other clubs.

I know many have suggested the apartment option in Kiev. Fortunately, I have enough hotel points to stay in one of the 5 star hotels in Kiev for free. My plan is to meet any girls from mamba either in the hotel lounge for coffee. I thought this would be safer than having a girl show up at an apartment and meeting her alone.

Question for those that stay in the hotels. Is there a lot of security in the hotels? Will the girls get hassled when they walk through the front door by hotel staff? Is this a wise approach to meeting a girl for the first time in Kiev?

[Insomniaque]

Thanks for the various feedback!

By the way:

http://uadosug.com/gallery/103/

To be avoided like the plague. This was an agency (one girl on the phone, another girl showing up) so just put the number in your blacklist (I would not be surprised to see it again on other sites).

Amusingly, very few hookers on UADosug are listed as "verified"!

Anyway, stay away from this site.

[CallSign Papa]

Yeah can only echo the sentiments already expressed, great reports.

And as Alina can now testify, payback is a b***h!

[Wisiwiw]

Today I had a threesome in my jacuzzi with a couple of amateur girls from mamba, and made use of my new waterproof camera. I'll post a couple of pictures in the appropriate section.

I want to try this mamba site I have never been to ukraine so any help on gettting a threesome? . The more the woman better. But if anyone has tips on getting two women let me. I'm going to Kiev and I want a bath full of women. And by the way how much did this threesome cost you.

Register on mamba. Ru and get started)

Send me a PM and and I'll point you in the right direction of these two girls. They are normal girls who need a little extra cash. Loads of fun, and they set me back $200 for 2-3 hours of soapy fun. I like to think that I drive a hard bargain.

[Sorbonne]

Insomniaque,

Thanks for your spectacular reports!

Part 4, 5, yes!

[Eros74]

Insomniaque thanks so much for the time you spent to write your reports, I really enjoyed all them, I like the way you write, I got the feeling I was watching a movie and not reading a report.

[Insomniaque]

The same night I met a civilian (found on Mamba) which I had missed in December. I had no expectations really, and as a matter of fact, we didn't fuck. Still I was eager to meet her, as we had been chatting for months and she was very keen on me (always flattering!) and I found her quite interesting (personality wise). I hesitated for a while, as Erica was available and wanted to see me again, and I, too, would have been more than happy to see her another time. But I was curious about the other, so I finally gave up a fantastic night of sex to try another type of game. And it was an interesting evening, although somewhat disturbing: I don't know what this girl wants, she seems quite happy with her life, she has a good job and doesn't need any EU wallet or passport, she has a boyfriend, she knows I am engaged, and last but not least, she knows I am a monger and that I bang hookers each time I come to Kiev, so I do not figure out why she even showed up. (Friendship? No!)

Anyway, we had a drink somewhere (kind of strange situation, we both didn't know what to say) and then joined my buddy who, again, reached out for Marina (!) and the four of us had dinner in a nice restaurant. I enjoyed having dinner with the girls, lots of fun even if sex was not on the menu. Only Marina looked a bit taciturn, sullen and not talkative, I guess English was an issue, plus the fact she was hired and therefore expected to fuck at some point, whereas my girl was a "normal" girl and free to do whatever she wanted, this imbalance might have been somewhat humiliating for her. I don't know. And I don't know either if I will ever fuck my "freebie" (who technically isn't one yet) , somehow I sense one-night stands are just not her style; the strange thing is, we really seem to have some kind of "connection" (having lots of fun and enjoying each other's company) and now that we have met, she seems even more keen on me. Time will tell, I assume.

[Insomniaque]

Another late afternoon shag after some early business: Alinochka, from top-modals. (The only one who both was available and spoke English.) This time I confirmed, reconfirmed and re-reconfirmed the services; UAH1200, anal INCLUDED. Okay then, let's see.

When I saw her, I thought,"Now this is for sure: God hates me." Not that the photos were fake, but they are OUTRAGEOUSLY flattering. Especially when it comes to the face. A wraith. Fucking scary.

But I took her nevertheless. Another of my brilliant moments. I really must stop making myself believe that if the girl doesn't match, I will turn her away, since I simply never do that. I just can't seem to give up a shag in sight. Apalling. So we went to my apartment, I paid and we started a pointless and utterly disappointing intercourse (no feeling at all. 100% pure mechanical shit). After a while I decided it was time to break open some backdoors. And to my surprise, it was much painful to her, despite the fact I am a quite normal size, and despite the loads of lubricant she put. I expected such a pro to be quite used.

And then something burst inside of me. Somehow, I made her pay. I made her pay for the flattering photos and for the fact she was ugly, I made her pay for her service which is non-existent; and she also paid for Lyuda, and for Olya, for Rita, for Zarina, for Tina, for all the wh*res who just hang up, for all those who don't show up, for the bait and switch. She requested several times that we switch back to classic sex, I just refused and kept banging her the way I wanted. And the more pain distorted her face, the harder I pumped. And I was fucking enjoying it. And this is not like me at all; usually I am the most thoughtful lover you can imagine, always wondering if the girl is okay, if she likes the way I do it and if she has pleasure, etc. To such an extent that I have often been mocked by fellow mongers, like "How charming, he wants to please hookers, what a dope!" Well, not this time. I did enjoy causing her pain. She fucking paid for fucking everything. And I don't even feel remorse. .

[Insomniaque]

after renata, i had a nap to get some strength before the evening, but the meeting i had planned was cancelled, so i was left on my own. and not in the right mood, i might add. i felt empty somehow and tired of the game, so i had a quick dinner outside and then back to bed. no chicks tonight.

but at 2 a. m. i was not yet sleeping, and obviously i was getting more and more aggravated as minutes passed, so i changed my mind and decided to have my shag, thinking that it would help me fall asleep.

this is where the real fun begins.

erica being unavailable (alas!) i grabed my list and started making phone calls. it so happens that many girls / salons i had selected did not speak english, and really i had not foreseen that language could be such an issue. you know the "hellodoyouspeakenglish?.no!.bip, bip, bip"? now i could write a book about that. i don't know how many girls hung up, but after half an hour of this little game, my mental health was seriously threatened. but i eventually came across a girl who spoke english: lyuda, from uadosug. mmmmh. the photos were too good to be true, and despite the site claimed they were 100% verified, i knew what to expect. but i had no other choice.

half an hour later, i received a sms: "i am in front of your building. meet me, please." so i went down, opened the front door and, to my delight, not 1, but 3 persons were actually waiting for me. 1 girl. 2 cops: many possibilities.

at this very moment i could have saved my night, or what was left of it. but sometimes the force is against you, and in a desperate attempt to get yourself out of a wrong choice, you make an ever worse one.

the girl standing in front of me was miles away from the pics. awful skin (welcome to redspotland) , average body (where are the massive natural tits i have seen on the photos, by the way?) and, icing on the cake, the most brainless look ever. had i got a brain myself, i would have just sent medusa and her buddies to hell. instead i started arguing with 2 cocksuckers, in order to fuck a girl whom i didn't like at all. really i need to see a therapist.

of course the police knew she was a hooker and i was a client, and despite they had nothing against me (i showed passport, etc.) , they managed to break my bollocks for more than half an hour under the most pathetic excuses. is this your friend? but do you know what time it is? this is not a proper time to meet friends, is it? why do you meet your "friend" in the middle of the night? and how did you meet her? etc. oh, please, please, please. i had uah70 in my pocket (for the taxi) which i handed and which of course they refused (i knew it was way too low but i just wanted to provoke them) and so we kept arguing in this fucking stairwell (where i was starting to get fucking cold) until the bright girl suggested that we go out and have a drink somewhere. and strangely enough, it worked: the cops gave up. and there we are, on maidan sq, looking for a bar or a coffee or a restaurant or fucking anything still open at 3 in the morning. jesus.

we found one, not too far away, so i had my morning beer and medusa her morning coffee, and she was so afraid of the police that she would have waited here for the rest of her life. finally i could not stand to wait any longer and we returned to my door. the cops we still there, on the other side of the road; i pretended not to see them, entered the door code swiftly and, finally, found myself with the girl of my dreams in my fucking place.

and then, naturally, we started arguing on price. i say 900 including anal as agreed, she says 1500 with anal, i say you're fucking kidding me, she says anal is always additional charge, i say fine, here are 100 grivnas for taxi now get the fuck out, she says okay okay 900 with anal, i give her the money, she then says for 900 i do blowjob with condom and classic sex, i say and anal, she says with anal 1500, i say give me my money back, she says no, i say i don't want to hurt you give me my fucking money back, she says nothing, i think i am going to do something really bad, she says for 900 i can do blowjob and classic, i say why don't you just give me my money back, take 100 for taxi and leave me alone, she says because i have told my manager that you pay me 900, etc. eventually i told her to keep 400, 100 for taxi. 300 because she was the sweetest little thing i had ever met, and to leave me alone. she thought for a minute, afraid of her manager, and said okay. 900 with anal! how can you seriously believe i still want to have anything to do with you at this point? my proposition still stands, i strongly advise you to accept it or things will turn spectacularly wrong. she accepted. i was pissed off for the waste of money but the only way to get all my fucking cash back would have been violence, and for what it's worth, i was taught never to hit a girl. (fucking education.) but i was so relieved when she went away!

upon leaving my apartment, she asked,"don't call my manager, please." i promised i wouldn't (fearing that she would never leave otherwise). and then (incredible, but true) : "if you want to see me, call me." oh yeah, i can't wait to see you again.

[Insomniaque]

Business in the morning and at lunch, and I was back to my place at 3 p. M, so I opted for a late afternoon shag from the list I had prepared (Mamba, top-modals, etc.). After a couple of phone calls I found one who was available: Renata from top-modals, UAH700 per hour, good reviews. Bingo.

She arrived 15 min late, but I was even later (gone out to buy something to drink) so for once it is the girl who had to wait. I found her waiting in my stairwell, as good as gold. The photos were real: a black-haired, blue-eyed skinny teen, with a typical Slavic face. I was not that enthusiast about her face (the photos were blurred so I could not tell beforehand) , save for her eyes which are kind of mesmerizing. Anyway she was cute and pretty fuckable and I didn't quite hesitate.

And I was so damn right. 1st class service, gentlemen. Very GFE, to begin with; lots of pretty good French kisses, and very sensitive: I fingered her while licking her tits and could distinctly feel her vagina contracting; and she was fucking WET, which among WG is kind of a rarity. Another thing worth mentioning, the way she looks at you and bites her lips during sex, it has something of the "perverted innocence", if you see what I mean, fucking thrilling if you are into that sort of things!

And on top of that, she was bloody skilled, oh my. She started with a BBBJ (not requested) and, fuck me! Okay, I am probably not an expert, but this was simply the best BJ of my life. Usually I am not into BJ which I find amusing at best, but Renata really knew the trick, I don't know how she did but sensations were awesome. Sex (classic) was far above average as well (she kept contracting as I was pumping her, plus she had a nice sense of rhythm) , but the best was yet to come: she finished me with a BBBJ + CIM + swallow = un-fucking-believable. This one was a gem. A very nice girl, kind and willing to please; she deserves to be treated well.

[Insomniaque]

Spent the evening with a client (who is also a monger). We had a so-called hamburger at O'Briens (very crowdy, but not a single WG around) , then a drink at the Buddha Bar which I wanted to check as I had not yet been to. I am not fond of the place, although I found the music pretty good; it is very gloomy and you can see hardly anything (not quite convenient to choose your hooker properly) , also the fact all the WG are just standing at the bar while the rest of the place is a no man's land, well, I don't like that concept. What's worse, there weren't too many girls, maybe a dozen at best, and as a matter of fact, when we arrived, the bouncers denied entrance to 2 pros right in front of us (you could see that they were WG a mile off) ; I suppose that the management has decided a quota each night, I mean they let in a certain amount of WG so as to attract the dirty dogs (you know who I am talking about) , but they don't want too many hookers either, that would draw attention; probably the River Palace syndrom.

We then moved to Rio. I was quite happy to return as I had not been to Rio since last September and I fucking love that place, although the new staff is not as friendly as the old one (Pascha is no longer working here, apparently). A "manager" started his "all tables are reserved" crap, but my buddy was not in the mood for bullshit and started arguing, and we eventually got a table where we wanted (upstairs, in the big room). My wingman immediately asked for Marina, whom he had taken out the night before; surely this Marina has some special skills since my fellow described his night with her as his best shag ever, which is saying something, as he has been a monger for much longer than me and must have banged maybe 200 or 300 girls during his career.

As for me I was just there to enjoy the show, after my night with Erica I was fucked up and doubted I could even fuck tonight. But Marina suggested a girl for me, going by the alias Malvina (IIRC) , who joined us at our table whereas I had not asked for anything. But the girl looked okay, it so happens that I had spotted her already while she was on stage, so I paid her a drink and we started chatting. (Quite good English, but not the most interesting conversation in human history.) Eventually I asked for a private dance as I had guessed she was rather skilled, and she indeed managed to make me have a erection, much to my surprise (I was really fucked up) so I decided to take her back home. She would not have been my first choice (those Ada, Aissa and Eva were much better-looking and also had great potential) but it was getting late and I had not the strength to go through the process (drinks, blah-blah, etc.) another time. So it was Malvina. And the shag was rather good, above average I would say, altough not worth the $300. Or maybe I am a bit harsh with Malvina because of Erica, after what I had experienced, very few girls could have stood comparison.

[Insomniaque]

Returned from Kiev for more than a week already, and I didn't find the time for a little report. So here we go. .

First time I try the apartment option (thanks to the advice I got on this thread). Not everything was perfect (a couple of light bulbs needing replacement, no corkscrew, a nasty smell coming out of the bathtub sometimes, a broken elevator bringing you systematically to the wrong floor, etc.) but still it was a good deal: great location (Maidan sq.) for about the same price as a hotel room ($120) , with a king-sized bed and without the usual security wankers to be bribed each time you take a girl to your place. I had ordered a transfer from / to the airport and the driver was indeed waiting for me at Borispol (always dreamed about having my name on one of those signs, just like in the HSBC ads) and I was quite happy not having to face the touts for once.

So I was driven to the office, paid the bill (upfront, I think it's the usual way) and then was driven to my apartment. I was a bit surprised at how useless the girl in the office proved to be (Where can I buy food and drinks? Where is the nearest apteka? Where are the nearest cash machines? She had no fucking clue) but fortunately I found by myself soon enough.

I had a business dinner and then went back to my apartment a little before 11p. M, and a shower later I was ready for Erica, an ex Rio girl whom I met last August (by far my best private dances to date). She arrived a little bit late (11:30) and seemed kind of disturbed; she explained to me the police got hold of her when she was just about to enter my building, and that she had to give them UAH400 so that they leave her alone. At first I thought she was bullshitting me so as to make me cry and get some more cash at the end of the day, but she looked freaked out indeed and she was trembling, and she is probably not that good of an actress.

I poured her a vodka to cheer her up and we chit-chatted for a while, it was interesting to learn a little bit more about her life and her past as a Rio girl. She then jumped onto me and started French-kissing me with this naughty smile of hers. And, wow. As far as I am concerned Erica does the best DFK in existence, leaviing all the rest aside it's already worth a meeting. It was also very pleasant to start sex naturally, undressing slowly while kissing each other, and to avoid the "shower is mandatory" thing. When I grabed her bra she smiled at me and asked,"Sense something new?" Jesus Christ, what have you done. The tiny, adorable tits were gone forever."You don't like them?", she asked anxiously when she saw my face."Of course I do", I lied,"but you really didn't need that, you know." She then said as an excuse that now she felt like a real woman! Real woman. What the fuck is that. I don't know if we men are totally responsible for this, but many (too many) girls seem convinced that each and every man on this good old Earth does prefer big tits, whether they are fake or not. What a mess. I did not tell her what I really thought about all that shit, but when I recall what marvellous tits she once had, I am devastated.

But apart from that bad surprise, what a hell of a night. I don't know for how many hours we fucked in total, but it was just terrific. We did any position I have a name for, and many others for which there is no name (I think) , and basically we did everything for which I was supple enough. All of this wrapped up in a most delightful girlfriend attitude, to such an extent that for half a second I thought I would play it bare back this time (not talking of the BJ, which was indeed bareback but given the nature of the meeting it goes without saying). Fortunately, I did not lost my common sense completely and we eventually put the hat on; but it's the first time a condom [CodeWord140] me off that much, and as a matter of fact it is the very first time I even have this kind of stupid thoughts with a woman (other than my own).

Now, regarding money. As she did not ask for any cash upfront I thought I had eventually managed to turn her into a freebie. But when, at the end of the meeting, I handed UAH1000 as a "gift", she looked utterly disappointed. I asked what was wrong."Why so little?", she whined. What a fool you are, I said to myself. All right, how much would you want. 2000, she replied,"as much as you pay for the girls from River Palace." (Technically, this is not correct, but I did not find the strength to argue.) I handed another thousand unwillingly."Please, don't be angry", she said."I am not", I lied. And naturally I was pissed off. More a question of pride than money, actually, because when you think of it, $250 for a 13 hour-long stellar GFE isn't that bad of a deal.

We discussed the issue later on. I told her I liked her really and was sad she had made me pay, like I was just another client, whereas I thought she liked me. She replied that she was not a regular working girl, that her last client was in December and that he had paid $400 for one hour. And besides, she asked,"What can you give me, except money?" She said she liked me very much and that she had not come for the money, but that if she hadn't got the cash she'd just feel fucked, as there is no place for her in my life and she would be a fool to expect that I got attached for real and to hope a love story.

Fair enough.

Oh, I almost forgot: according to Erica, the River Palace has opened again! Same concept (floating disco, etc.) as far as I understood, only this time it's far away from centre and she doubts there are many people there as the location is not at all convenient. Did not find the time to check this out.

[Dangerwank]

Today I had a threesome in my jacuzzi with a couple of amateur girls from mamba, and made use of my new waterproof camera. I'll post a couple of pictures in the appropriate section.

I want to try this mamba site I have never been to ukraine so any help on gettting a threesome? . The more the woman better. But if anyone has tips on getting two women let me. I'm going to Kiev and I want a bath full of women. And by the way how much did this threesome cost you.

[TheKnight]

Back on the horse tonight with my gf in chernighiv. Anyone up for getting into trouble) what goes on here on Easter Sunday? Also does anyone have information on a little "erotic show" joint called Red Heat in Podil?

Yes, think I wrote about that place a month or 2 ago. Not great. Average girls at best. Trying to be a sophisticated joint. Expensive. Take out girl option $400 as I recall. Not recommended, even for the titty show. No full nudity on stage. Private dances same cost as elsewhere.

[Traveltoomuch]

Back on the horse tonight with my gf in chernighiv. Anyone up for getting into trouble) what goes on here on Easter Sunday? Also does anyone have information on a little "erotic show" joint called Red Heat in Podil?