Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Mc Don]

I just don't get why you guys all use like the most widely used site. If I went to a small lake and saw a ton of boats fishing I would move to the next area. There are so many ways to meet girls online without using a dating site which is asking for trouble of scams and who knows what else.

Dia accounts for less then 10% of my conquests. My best looking pick ups come from elsewhere. FB for instance is great if you can get into the right circles there. DIA is just convenient I guess.

[Mc Don]

When do you discuss payment?

I don't. You will find that semi pros or pros will bring the topic on the phone or while cam chat. They won't travel if they don't think they will get what they want.

The once that don't bring it up are usually happy with cab fair up and back (although they may ask 500 peso for what is really a 100 peso up and back trip) and good time. Good time can be anything from taking them to eat out, window shopping, movies or even a nice bubble bath in the hotel. I am with FreebeeFan, I believe in showing them good time so that if I decide to repeat I can. I also get a better gf experience and almost always another referral or two, don't be shy to ask. You will sometimes hear the sob story in the morning, milk for the baby, relo in hospital etc, etc. I usually tell them lets go for breakfast / drink and once out of the room I give them whatever I think its ok and tell them goodbye.

[Fslag338]

Can we please get the discussion to a higher level?

If you are here to insult others then better go else where.

[MadisonGuy]

LOL there is little bit more to it that what I wrote. I do get them to jump on cam before meeting them to establish if its really them. I speak to them on the phone for few minutes to see what they are like. I don't give out my room number, only hotel or place near by to meet them. What I was trying to say is that there is no point talking to them for weeks or coming up with stupid excuses to get them to your bedroom, you are better off just inviting them to meet while you are already in phils. I agree with RK, lots of crap happens on dia for which many of us sooner or latter suffer and the phone call to reassure them that you are in the county is what does the trick. Even if they don't have cam they are happy to set up time tomorrow to meet up with you on cam to prove that they are the once on the photo. Also there are few other things that do play part like time. When do you jump on dia (time wise) , photo and so on.

I just don't get why you guys all use like the most widely used site. If I went to a small lake and saw a ton of boats fishing I would move to the next area. There are so many ways to meet girls online without using a dating site which is asking for trouble of scams and who knows what else.

[Mc Don]

Mac, you'll be meeting an army of ladyboys, retards, bullshit artists, mentally ill, chaperone "cousins", and other wildlife with this kind of tecnique. That would be a worse waste of time than inane online chatter.

LOL there is little bit more to it that what I wrote. I do get them to jump on cam before meeting them to establish if its really them. I speak to them on the phone for few minutes to see what they are like. I don't give out my room number, only hotel or place near by to meet them. What I was trying to say is that there is no point talking to them for weeks or coming up with stupid excuses to get them to your bedroom, you are better off just inviting them to meet while you are already in phils. I agree with RK, lots of crap happens on dia for which many of us sooner or latter suffer and the phone call to reassure them that you are in the county is what does the trick. Even if they don't have cam they are happy to set up time tomorrow to meet up with you on cam to prove that they are the once on the photo. Also there are few other things that do play part like time. When do you jump on dia (time wise) , photo and so on.

[Member #4491]

Beyond that, create an interesting chat, make yourself interesting to the girl. Tell a girl you want her for sex only and she will surely run.

Develop your online persona, be interesting, be funny, make yourself stand out and create a reason for her to want to meet you. Thats all there is to it.

We always pay one way or another, don't we? Anyone that knows me also knows that me and FreebieFan are somewhat similar in our general approach to mongering. Suckers for the human contact that is created in fun and communication. Sometimes this approach is harder work than to just fork up the cash, but having "just great sex" is lesser than having great sex AND chemistry IMHO. My dear friend GE often ask me why I bother to entertain so many next to gf-relations, and I can honestly not answer him (yet). Maybe I am vain and like to feel "loved not only for my money"? And then in periods I say "f*ck it" and goes for hard core hoes, only to be back a month, or three, later to fooling around with a new "gf".

Lovely girls, Frenzy3. I have met you and I have seen your technique at work. Your generous and can have more or less as many girls you want, with this referral strategy. If you want to live in the dream that you are dating a "real gf", it could perhaps hurt the cause somewhat to ask if you can fuck all of her friends as well, but for what the extremely liberal relations you are engaged in, it seems very efficient. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you stick you T-Rex in the mouth of that girl you brought to Red Lips, and have her girlfriend eat her out at the same time. I would mount myself behind the girlfriend of your girlfriend, and give her little lesbian fanny a surprise visit. The lesbian was really cute. Did you get to try her?

Barba

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[Frenzy3]

Is it a touchy subject for you since you have a China man size dick

[Frenzy3]

Hey, don't get so defense man! No shit we all have our methods. Your method just sounds absurd, that's all.

Guy: So, how much.

Girl: Sorry, I don't do that.

Guy: How about me pay you a FINDER'S FEE!

Girl: Sure! Let me call all my slutty friends.

Uh. Don't think so. Except the pros, most Filipinas are quite conservative. If she ain't going to sleep with you, she's likely not the type who pimps out her friends.

Post some pics or are you just talk and no action

[Red Kilt]

Please keep in mind that although I have clearly been criticized, I am not offended. My initial posting was in response to a guy who wanted to know how one goes from the fantasy of the DIA "dating site" to the practicality of fucking these girls. After all, they are mostly not professional prostitutes, just girls who are looking for a chance to escape poverty through marriage. SNIP. I am looking for advice from more experienced mongerers like Red Kilt. I would very much appreciate it if you could elaborate on what you are looking for in a DIA encounter, and how you go about assuring that you get the result you want. Don't make me guess how thinkgs work in the Phils, share this knowledge with me. Indeed, this is the purpose of the ISG. You can flame me all you want but I will not be upset if I learn something new.

I didn't flame you, and my criticism was gentle.

Remember an important thing. I LIVE HERE. That means I have time to take it slowly on DIA. I can even meet a girl for coffee only just to say Hello, in order to set up a second date that will be a sure success. The 7 day monger does NOT have that time luxury, so you need to remember that.

Along with many other colleagues on this board, I have met many many girls from (mainly DIA). Not one of them has been on time, or even close to ontime, and we have discussed why this happens on many threads. One reason often given for not leaving home until they are sure we will meet them is because guys have previously told them where and what time to meet and then didn't show, and the girl is left with a borrowed fare to repay and no money.

This is the realty of the Phils. I have had a girl burst into tears with gratitude because I gave her 500 php for her taxi ride home after she has spent 100 php on a tricycle, a bus and a jeepney to meet me at Trinoma. I am glad Forest admitted he was wrong to spin the bullshit that he was already in Makati when he wasn't, because these experiences make the girls very sceptical and hardens them too.

I know very well that mongers tell all sorts of lies to girls to get them to bed because the girls have told me about them. You will find a string of posts on ISG from Freebie Fan and I (amongst others) who tell the girls the absolute truth about ourselves as well as having profiles that are very explicit. We say we are married; we state we want fun only; we even wear rings and things. The amazing result is that we still get lots and lots of hits, and lots and lots of success, because (a) girls like guys who are direct and straight and (be) it eliminates all the "God-fearers" and the marriage seekers. OK so we turn off 80% of girls that read the profile, but the other 20% don't need bullshit to convince them to meet us and are usually good to go. The trick is to sort out the professional hookers from the fun-lovers in that 20%, and ability to do that comes with experience.

My approach is as follows, since Forest asked for assistance.

I open DIA now and again and browse through profiles. I never send messages, just read profiles. I do not have a pic, but I say in my profile that I will share a pic later on email if we become friends.

These girls know I have visited their profiles because DIA tells them, and so they then check me out.

Many click on by after they read my profile because they don't like my frankness, but a surprising number (around 20%) send a message to me (often just a Hello or Hi but at least it indicates interest). It is only then that I respond, and I always first ask if they have read AND understood my profile. About 1/3rd drop out at this step, because theyhaven't read it so they reread my profile and read past the word "foreigner" in the first line and realise I am there for fun only.

Of course, there are also some girls who send messages whose profiles I never previously read. I respond to them in the same way.

All of these sift methods form a pool from which one can then select possible new friends.

I send messages, chat, exchange pics etc with most of them and it soon becomes easy to spot the live ones from the imposters and hookers. Don't ask me how. After a while I just know, and you will too if you have any experience with people.

I always say that we need to meet in person first and then I arrange to meet in a PUBLIC PLACE, usually a mall coffee shop, so I can check them out. I rarely expect to have success on the first meeting, but it has happened on a few memorable occasions. I drop off a number of girls at this point, because they are not like they seem on chat or cam or we do not have "chemistry".

I live in Manila so easy to meet those from here or nearby places like Bulacan or Cavite or Pampanga etc and I ask them to travel to meet me and I always give transport money too. It is never more than 2 or 300 php, and usually way less.

If Cebu or Davao I arrange to meet on my next trip there (I travel frequently on business).

One you have met then the rest follows easily. You have to learn to be frank, and not to beat around the Bush. I told one recent girl I met that this would be a short meeting to get to know each other and if we liked each other then we could meet again. When we met she asked what will happen on Date 2 and I said smiling that we will go somewhere more private than the mall and get to know each other better. She smiled too and after she went home the texts that we exchanged until we met again one week later became increasingly more raunchy and explicit and when we met it was a wild session. She was one girl that I could have taken to SOGO after coffee because she was ready to go but I never had the time.

Sometimes if I have time I suggest we see a movie and that is a good way to see what she is like. I have had girls who move from initial hand-holding in the dark to me putting their hands onto my dick in a short time. All of them will like the hand-holding anyway, and many make out they are shocked when I accidentally brush their hand against my stiffy but rarely do they pull the hand away and more often than not they come back for more. None have jumped up and walked out.

I hope this helps Forest.

[FurryFriend]

You may be Korean, but your English is better than the person calling himself Frenzy3. There are more than a few morons on the ISG threads. Good luck. X.

There is NO REASON why any straight guy would care about another guy's penis size. Talking about who has a small dick is so junior high school.

[FurryFriend]

You do it your way I do mine, but have a look at the photos I have posted, asking a pina to find me what I want works for me, I value my time and prefer non bar girls.

Hey, don't get so defense man! No shit we all have our methods. Your method just sounds absurd, that's all.

Guy: So, how much.
Girl: Sorry, I don't do that.
Guy: How about me pay you a FINDER'S FEE!
Girl: Sure! Let me call all my slutty friends

Uh...don't think so. Except the pros, most Filipinas are quite conservative. If she ain't gonna sleep with you, she's likely not the type who pimps out her friends.

[Frenzy3]

I don't see the point in doing this. Why not just pull a girl out of a bar? At least I know what I'm getting instead of this guessing game. Why pay someone a finder's fee when I can do my own finding (and I know precisely what I want)?

You do it your way I do mine, but have a look at the photos I have posted, asking a pina to find me what I want works for me, I value my time and prefer non bar girls.

[FurryFriend]

Once they turn up, you say what you want and how much they will get paid. If they say no ask them to find you a girl, I offer 200-500 finders fee.

I don't see the point in doing this. Why not just pull a girl out of a bar? At least I know what I'm getting instead of this guessing game. Why pay someone a finder's fee when I can do my own finding (and I know precisely what I want)?

[Fast Buck Artist]

LOL, my technic is simple. I just jump on line while in manila, look at makati, select the girl I want, write to her. I AM HERE. DO U WANT TO MEET NOW? 9 out of 10 times it works. The replay is yes, then ask for her number, I call her telling her to get into a taxi and get me from hotel, I will pay for the cab. Normally they arrive within 30 min and is in my bed 10 min latter. Chatting is waste of time.

Mac, you'll be meeting an army of ladyboys, retards, bullshit artists, mentally ill, chaperone "cousins", and other wildlife with this kind of tecnique. That would be a worse waste of time than inane online chatter.