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[Bango Cheito]

There's real worlds and then real worlds.

FACT about Colombian culture. In the REAL Colombia, not the one that gets presented in front of the typical pussy-hunting foreigner, Colombians are very VERY suspicious of people they don't know, people outside their circle. This is why you have so many cousins fucking and even marrying in this culture (my gf's parents were cousins, one of my best friend's parents are cousins and my ex-wife has cousins in her grandparents).

If you're some stranger from another part of the city, much less another COUNTRY, they typically wouldn't consider you family for a long long time. And the converse of what you guys said is actually true. If they accept even 100 pesos from you, it's because you're in the circle. Because of this, they will generally not even let you so much as buy a piece of bread or a lightbulb to support the household because that means they are VALIDATING THE RELATIONSHIP and this is something the typical Colombian mom and dad do NOT do lightly, even if things are going great and everybody gets along.

As a matter of fact, an excellent litmus test of if you have a girl who is really going out with you because she earnestly likes you or a gold digger is how long she waits before introducing you to her parents. Bringing you home to Mama and Papa before the 2 month or even 3 month mark is EXTREMELY counter-cultural in the REAL Colombia. If you find yourself being introduced to the family after a week or two, you have an interesada on your hands, so be CAREFUL. This of course means that the whole family is in on the game, and by associating yourself with these people you have now LOST the trust of the whole neighborhood, which to somebody like me would be important, because I live here full time. This is a big part of the reason gringos are starting to get a bad rep here.

[Member #4394]

Correct. I always politely decline any invitation by pros and nonpros to meet their families. Once you meet their families, they will start asking you for a bunch of things. Be careful when they say that you are a member of the family.

A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.

[TuDueno]

I completely agree with JG. I am not a Brad Pitt guy and I know exactly what you are talking about. As far as the "may" is concerned I did not want to discourage Hasideas too much. Guess what Colombianas like most. Shopping.

[SlamCity7777]

you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.

all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.

exceptional post sir! i just posted a post with a similar tone. i would love your feedback!

[SlamCity7777]

This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!

This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"

News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [CodeWord140] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [CodeWord140] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!

Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.

If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.

See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.

No Specific Order:

1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.

2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!

3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.

4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.

5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.

I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.

Play the game don't get played.

[John Gault]

you need to figure out yourself. experience of others won't necessary help. as a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (however please note that the age requirement for p2p is 18). taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to medellin in your case. i do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. a "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. but be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. as "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.

you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.

all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.

[Colbrotha]

You need to figure out yourself. Experience of others won't necessary help. As a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. Concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (However please note that the age requirement for P2P is 18). Taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to Medellin in your case. I do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world Colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. Thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.

Estoy de acuerdo with TuDueno. One of the problems with a Machista Society as Colombia is that the man always pays, like it or not. The man takes the lead in every sense, none of this going dutch nonsense like in the US. You can pull a Top Shelf Breezy, your the gringo with the blue passport with an eagle on the front, international minded, world traveler, dollars on your forehead etc. U can have beautiful children, hottest wife on the block, etc. If it goes to that level, better be paid in full or get inevitably played.

[TuDueno]

Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.

Thanks

You need to figure out yourself. Experience of others won't necessary help. As a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. Concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (However please note that the age requirement for P2P is 18). Taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to Medellin in your case. I do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world Colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. Thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.

[Sailor Jim]

Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes.

You really need to state what you're looking for. A long term relationshoiip? A wife? Someone to bring back to your home country? You mention keeping prices low so I am guessing you are looking for low mileage putas?

Bad News. The internet is the worst place to find all of the above.

Low milage putas charge a lot more. Especially ones on the internet. With Internet girls in general there is a very high flake rate due to the fact of sheer numbers of guys contacting them. And if they have been on the internet for some time they already have several options of higher paying clients. They weed out the crap from their rolodex. Just like we do. Last minute cancels when Daddy Warbucks calls is commonplace. The problem is there are many fake girl profiles and fake guy profiles which is why CC and LAC are now "verifying" where the member send in Passport and Driver Lic and info for photo and age and loacation verfification.

Which hurts the real girls. However far and few they are on these internet sites. So this means old slobby grandpas go to CC with pictures of younger blond haired studs as thier profile photos, chatting with the girl on the site promising the world to the her meanwhile the girl doesn't even answer your invite to chat (your average photo). The slobby grandpa is jerking off to the girls photos and his conversation with her. You get snubbed and in the long run the girl quits the site because all she is doing is talking in chat to these hot guys who say they are arriving in a week and never do.

If you are trying to go sooper dooper totally non pro girlfriend rout sealing the deal in a short time may not be as easy as it sounds.

Internet in short: Putas are flakey and charge more. Real girls are far and few and are monopolized by super studs. Real or not.

[Member #4176]

I am in the same position. I am 3 weeks away from arrival. I signed up with Colombian Cupid with the platinum membership. I followed all of the profile making guidelines but I am getting very little activity, positive or negative. I am not sure what I am missing but I am not getting hardly any action.

However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.

The way I see it is that RL is 90% Pros or chicas looking to gas the gringo for a fun night rumbando. So, your going to get a lot more hits. The other sites have a lot of legit (non pros). So, they know a gringo coming to Medellin only for the week or two doesn't want a relation. I have tried RL, badoo, and Colombian Cupid. With RL got many numbers of pros (which were expensive) and with badoo got few numbers of local girls. The local girls I had to wine and dine and in some cases didn't get to seal the deal. I will be going to Medellin on the 12th of Sept and I still have numbers to a few local girls (2 of them from badoo). I usully get the numbers of the girls from the casas. So, I will rotate my time with the pros and nonpros.

[Hillbilly69]

also, colombian cupid and latin american cupid look exactly the same besides the name. i wonder if you get access to both.

not unless you buy a membership for each site.

do they confirep001e the 4th bottle on a a hypothetical 3 bottle limit? or do i have the option to pay? do i need to have receipts for the booze and smokes? thanks!

i have brought 4 bottles before, but in a duty free bag. i think you over thinking things they don't give a fuck, they want your tourist money and for you to come back.

by the way, is it difficult to get viagra in medellin?

no, any pharmacy has it over the counter but it is called sidenafil in generic form regular viagra is too expensive there.

[Ezyngo]

However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.

I personally like RL. It is the only site I used. Have not tried the other. I got more than 4 or 5 contacts before every trip to Medellin from RL. Not all contacts work out. Some have this and that reason not to meet you or delay the meeting. IMHO, about 90% of the women on RL are pros and semi-pros even though when you chat with them online you might think she is a regular girl. Once you take them to bed, MOST of them, and I stress MOST based on my experience, will ask for 'plasticas' before or after. I think they assume gringos or any foreigners have to pay for sex in Colombia. It is a sad fact but in reality, that's what we (as gringos) face.

Good days gents.

EZ

[EstebanH]

So I'm heading to Medellin soon and have heard of some ISG members having success arranging get-togethers from the popular dating sights. My hope is that even the pros on these sites have a bit less mileage than the girls in the clubs and casas. Am I wrong?

I noticed many of the girls put up profiles on all of these sites since it is free to do so but it seems like as of late, Colombian Cupid sees the most activity with the Medellin girls.

Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.

Thanks

I am in the same position. I am 3 weeks away from arrival. I signed up with Colombian Cupid with the platinum membership. I followed all of the profile making guidelines but I am getting very little activity, positive or negative. I am not sure what I am missing but I am not getting hardly any action.

However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.

[Hasideas Tao]

So I'm heading to Medellin soon and have heard of some ISG members having success arranging get-togethers from the popular dating sights. My hope is that even the pros on these sites have a bit less mileage than the girls in the clubs and casas. Am I wrong?

I noticed many of the girls put up profiles on all of these sites since it is free to do so but it seems like as of late, Colombian Cupid sees the most activity with the Medellin girls.

Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.

Thanks

[Sailor Jim]

anyone know a link, or off the top of their heads, what the limits are for bringinig in booze and cigars? if i go over the limit what approximately are the charges / taxes? do they confirep001e the 4th bottle on a a hypothetical 3 bottle limit? or do i have the option to pay? do i need to have receipts for the booze and smokes? thanks!