General Reports

[ClamSlammer]

My Telcel phone roams in the US just fine. Incoming texts are free (incoming MMS picture messages cost money). Sending SMS is 35¢ which is more expensive than the 25¢ I pay on my current US-based cellphone for international texts, but it could be worse.

You sure incoming texts are free with a Telcel phone roaming in USA? Doesn't make sense to me that Telcel and AT&T would just provide you incoming text service at no charge. Certainly the normal $.08 charge per text would still apply, correct? And no roaming fee?

BTW I found this website that you can use to anonymously send texts anywhere in the world for free. No registeration, no sign-up, no fees. I tested it and it does work, but not 100% reliable. If you guys want info PM me.

[FlapJacK]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.

I normally walk as well but I also know my way very well and usually arrive while its still daylight. If after dark then I would rather not walk alone and will take a taxi. I don't recommend that someone going for the first time walk to the Zona.

[Keg]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.

Dude, if a first-timer is asking for directions, isn't it easier just to direct them to the taxi stand? As you stated in your post,"walking is better as long as you know where you are going", but then you don't post the walking directions for the newbie.

[Artisttyp]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.

Some people aren't comfortable with crossing the bridge over Rio Tijuana that leads to El Centro. The daytime can still be pretty sketchy and desolate. One minute you see a homeless guy down below asking you for a cigarette and the next minute he's up on the bridge next to you. These are all drug addicts and polleros (illegal crossers) that have nothing to lose.

Be careful on that bridge day or night. I walk it but I'd be lying if I said I was never concerned for my safety.

[Joe Arturo]

Jimmy Buffet said "If it floats, flies or phucks. RENT IT!"

[Super Gato]

Thanks for the detailed walkthrough SG.

What is not immediately clear to me is still:

If I get a telcel prepaid SIM, I can still roam in the US and receive txt messages right?

And it sounds like it won't cost me money to receive, though it will be hella expensive to send.

I just need a sure fire way for my chica to get in touch with me, should she choose.

My Telcel phone roams in the US just fine. Incoming texts are free (incoming MMS picture messages cost money). Sending SMS is 35¢ which is more expensive than the 25¢ I pay on my current US-based cellphone for international texts, but it could be worse. On my US cellphone within Mexico and roaming, they charge 50¢ when I'm in Mexico.

Also, remember the girl texting you will be charged as a local text (if she's on Telcel and has a number in the same zone as you, calling / texting people on other networks costs more and she can't use gift credits to text American phone numbers) so it will be cheaper for her to respond than a text to the US (SMS to the US from Mexico is relatively cheap, maybe 1. 50 pesos versus the 0. 88 pesos, but if you're a girl recharging your account in 20 peso increments, that adds up). Those prices are for girls with Telcel and a 664 phone number. In the interior the IVA is higher so the costs are slightly higher.

The only other thing to remember is you will need to top off the account or Telcel will suspend your line when your credits expire. It isn't a big deal to hit Oxxo or another store when you're in Tijuana to buy more time (100+ peso refills will last 60 days, lower denominations expire after 30 days, you leave your account with a zero balance for six months and Telcel closes the account). The little mom and pop convenience store across the street from me in the US can recharge my account instantly as well. Telcel's site claims there are 100, 000+ stores in the US that will. So unless you've decided not to keep the number or can't find $8 to keep the number alive another 2 months, there's little reason to let it lapse.

Telcel has a service that costs 100 pesos a month on its website called Amigo BIP which promises to allow you to send / receive unlimited texts via your computer anywhere in the world. Right now I don't consume that many texts a month (and most of my frequent texting is done from my Telcel phone when I'm in Mexico and so using a computer. Or paying more to use internet on my phone. Isn't practical) so I haven't played with it.

The costs will never be dirt cheap because we're dealing with cellphone carriers such as Telcel (Carlo Slim didn't get to be the one of the richest dudes on the planet from giving away phone service) and AT&T roaming in the US.

[Rohan Cid]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many people would take a taxi to the zona rather than simply walk there. Personally, I think walking there is better as long as you know where you are going and how you are getting there. Just my 0. 02.

[SuperSteve]

In relationships, the one that cares the most loses.

Many men have never been with a lady as beautiful as what they can get in P4P. To them it is like a drug. Just like a drug, it will never be better than the first time. Just remember no matter how good looking she is, some guy is tired of putting up with her sh*t.

I have been very lucky all my life, in all ways, but especially with women. I have phucked the hottest of the hot, to the moped's (you know the ones you don't want to be seen riding). I will say that IMO the most insecure have been the hottest. Hot women, especially in P4P are like buses, there will be another one by in ten minutes, or less. Be who you are, and if she doesn't like it, try the next bus that comes by, you will finally reach your destination.

It is like sales, you need to get the No's out of the way to get to the yes. In my 20's I had a job where I could take off for months at a time. Well since I lived near the beach, it was always during the summer. I would go to the beach and actually ask women to get naked with me until one said yes. My rate of return was never really great, maybe one out of ten. I found that being told no never really hurt, and made some nice acquaintances, that I would introduce to my friends. I always found a minimum of one a day though. No means nothing except not right now. Give it your best shot, and if doesn't work, give it again with someone else, until it does. You will not be happy unless you are being who you really are.

I will be in town again this weekend winging with a newbie to Tijuana. I'll see if I can finally get it right!

Health & Happiness to all.

[Keg]

What is the basics for Adelitas, HK:

1. Cross the border to McDonal's

2. How to get to the two bars?

3. Time of open, close?

4. How much?

5. Comparison with agencies, like hottijuana, cumintj?

From the Tram Station next to McDonalds cross the street to the new pedestrian bridge that crosses over the freeway, and follow off the bridge south to the border turnstile, pass through and continue walking to the second set of turnstiles, pass through and keep walking straight towards the taxi stand. Get a Yellow Taxi to Adelitas, both AB and HK are on the same street, the Yellow Cab will drop off in front of AB. The bars are open all day and all night, they do close in the mornings for clean up of course, but are essentially opened all day and night. There is not a charge to get in to AB, but HK does have an entrance fee on weekend nights because it gets crowded and they know they can charge, it's basically a $4 beer purchase is the entry fee.

These bars do not compare to the agencies, they're apples and oranges obviously. To each his own.

Have fun.

[MadisonGuy]

Yeah Supersteve I think you got it. Fortunately for you those experiences you had made you stronger. I know way too many guys that just stay the same IMO weak pathetic dudes falling in love with the first hot piece of ass that shakes her tail in front of him. I used to be that way and wish it didn't take me so much time to get over my first couple of girlfriends which ate up time to start dating other ones. I definetely am a fan of making a hooker your girlfriend, as long as you know that the only reason you are doing it is to lower costs. I think a lot of guys get confused and get in a fuzzy grey area, they say one thing but feel another. In fact I get more pissed if a stranger / escort does not make it for an appointment than I would if I was doing shit all day with a girl and she seemed to be very into me and I was into her and she didn't show up for the next meeting, because once that attraction takes place my mind says alright now cut off all expectations. If you expect something from these girls, pretty much any female in general, you will always be let down. Women are moody, jealous, psychotic creatures, it's just who they are. And unfortunately per books I've read the more reasonable and calm you are the more you will want some psycho ***** in your life that creates tons of drama.

[SuperSteve]

Just the opinion of an old man so it is not necessarily fact.

All a broken heart did for me was make me callous, so for what I now desire from women, I guess it did make me stronger.

To me, working ladies are like renting cars. Why get the same one every time if you are paying for it? They certainly can, and do, get jealous. It is not only about the money, although without the money there would be no initial connection (I'm a fat, old, fart). I have been fortunate (cursed?) all my life in being able to connect with women. Yesterday I had a VGL Vietnamese lady at an AMP give me her cell number and ask me to call her. I am over twice (3 times?) her age. She said I was fun, even though it was only a R&T. My current favorita in Tijuana says I make her happy. When I leave the club, she makes mention of me sessioning in another club. I just smile, give her a kiss on the cheek, and tell her she will be my favorita no matter what happens.

Do not let this lady see you as stressing because she did not answer your text, call, whatever. Even if you are dying inside put on the happy face, laugh, and make her happy for the time you are with her. It will confuse her, you will become unique (not like all her other FWB's) , and make her want you even more. Women want strong men. Lady's of the night, especially, already have enough weak men in their lives, do not become another one. If she perceives you as weak you are history, and will be put in line with the others.

Women, no matter what their position in life, want a strong man that can take charge, but still be sensitive to their needs. With women each has different needs, both mentally and physically. Find out what hers are and fulfill them as much as she requires them. If her needs get to be too much for your needs, adios.

One of my favorite songs is "Tough & Tender" by Rod Piazza. He says in the song if you want to find the way to a woman's heart, be tough & tender. I believe this to be true.

My only real advice is, do not spend more money than you can afford to lose.

Health & happiness to all.

[Guitarrefreak]

I truly believe a broken heart makes a man stronger.

Nah dude, I get what you mean, I truly fell for a girl while I was away in China, she works at a foot massage place and she was awesome at it.

She used to come to my room every night, and buy me snacks, never took money from me, and even when I was sick, she brought herbal drink, after her work ends at 3am.

I actually shed tears for her before but eventually, things were not meant to be.

Oh wait, I think in that story, both hearts got broken.

Maybe the fucked up part of me wants feel heart broken for this Tijuana chica.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE MORE TIMES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEM. YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH A BROKEN HEART IF YOU DO!

[Joe Arturo]

I have been using a Telcel phone in Mexicali and Tijuana for many years. I have never bought one in Tijuana, but have in Mexicali. The cheapest that I have found them in Mexicali is at the Oxxo stores. They sell them for between 500 and 1200 pesos depending on the bells and whistles (camera, music, etc) and it comes with 300 pesos of free prepaid credit. Once you purchase the phone you need to take it to a Telcel office (not an agency) and register it with your passport, etc. The Mexicans can register it over the phone, but non citizens need to do so at the Telcel office with passport identification. I don't use it in the United States as I have the Verizon Nationwide plus Mexico plan, which saves me about $200 per month as there are no long distance charges for calls from Mexico to US nor for calls from US to Mexico and there are no roaming charges when I am in Mexico. It has worked out very well for me over the years.

[Joe Arturo]

I have done this several times in Mexicali and Tijuana. First you need to get to know the young lady with a few conversations and trips to the upstairs bedroom. Once this happens and they trust you, it is pretty easy to pull off. I either do it with one that works the afternoon shift and it begins when they get off of work or I do it with them on their night off. Waiting until 3 AM or later for the late shift gal to get off of work doesn't really work for me.

They usually spend 12 to 18 hours with me. We go to dinner, dancing, play cards and watch TV in the room. And a lot of chit chat. I speak Spanish very well so it is easy to chit chat.

I usually give them a gift of $200 "to help them with their expenses" and have never had a complaint and have never been turned down for another TLN after the $200.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE THAT I HAVE MADE MORE TIMES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEM. YOU WILL ONLY END UP WITH A BROKEN HEART IF YOU DO!

[Guitarrefreak]

I did cross the line already, and maybe I shouldn't have, but then, those girls do know that sex is on the guy's mind anyway don't there?
And given that I have already crossed the line, may as well just continue, no turning back.

Just playing devil's advocate here.

Regarding the hickie, yeah what hickie, actually my gf caught me once, and she was pissed off for a while.

Hey Guitar and anyone else like me, who just decided they wanted a bit of a relationship with a chica. What MadisonGuy said could be a very important statement. When you do find that girl you click with put on the brakes as soon as you take her arriba you have crossed the line, then you just become another customer. Point 2 Madison, You said I acomplished in one day what you couldn't in the whole time you were there. Thats false if you were to go back and read old reports I saw her for many months and never crossed that line and it worked and now it is paying dividends. I do understand most of the fellows on here think it is ridiculous to even want anything other than sex from these girls but everyone is different and to each his own.

As far as the jealousy thing Super Gato is right on its not jealousy its all about business and maintaining your customers. Getting back to the car salesman analogy. Remember as aggressive as car salseman are they have alot of rules they have to follow. When a customer hits the lot they can't all pounce on you they have to rotate. And if the customer is returning and they have already dealt with them that is there customer. Now imagine putting 50 car salesman in the same room and taking away the rules. Then add to the equation they have to sell themselves in order to make a sale. Can you imagine that kind of enviroment, thats what these ladies face everyday they hit the clubs. The time I spent with my ATF this weekend she was complaining about all the stress she faces everyday at work. I never really thought of the clubs as high stress situations for the ladies, but I guess they are.

I would like to get back to part 2 of my T / R but it has been a little tense around here, since I got back wifey keeps imagining there are hickies on my neck. To quote Dennis Rodman when he got caught with 2 ladies in his bed." What ladies" So I say "what Hickies"