Angeles City

[FurryFriend]

Thats what I thought but I've been in Pats for the last 10 days and of the 11 girls I've 'enjoyed', there has been only one marginal case of poor attitude. No runners, only kick-outs when I've had enough. And out of those 11, most were game for either CIM or anal or both. Could the same be said of an AC girl? I think not.

And before going on the prowl tonight after a day at the beach, I enjoyed an excellent 3 course french dinner with a carafe of a rather good Cabernet Sauvignon. Would that be a feasible option in AC?

The food is to die for in Pattaya. The accomodations there are world class. Just look at the people who go there. Mostly families, many with young children. It's nice to see other people, not just perverts like myself.

Are Thais overall less affectionate in the sack? I'd say YES, but only in a marginal way. But because mongers pay AFTER the deed (unlike in AC) , her less affectionate demenor is offset by her desire to earn her pay.

Pattaya is superior to Angeles City in every way. The only areas in which Angeles City is superior are.

1. Everything is on one strip, making it easier to get around.

2. It's close to the airport. For Pattaya, it's a 2 hour bus ride.

3. Bars open all night. For Pattaya, bars start closing at 1:00am.

That's it. I can easily spend a month in Pattaya. After 10 days in Angeles City, I'd want to commit suicide.

[DriveAllNight]

In my jaundiced opinion, there has to be more to a mongering destination than just bars and pussy.

Heh, of course. There must be Viagra salesmen and ladyboys as well.

[Cunning Stunt]

Sometimes I think Pattaya has its drawbacks as well in terms of girls attitude.

Thats what I thought but I've been in Pats for the last 10 days and of the 11 girls I've 'enjoyed', there has been only one marginal case of poor attitude. No runners, only kick-outs when I've had enough. And out of those 11, most were game for either CIM or anal or both. Could the same be said of an AC girl? I think not.

And before going on the prowl tonight after a day at the beach, I enjoyed an excellent 3 course french dinner with a carafe of a rather good Cabernet Sauvignon. Would that be a feasible option in AC?

In my jaundiced opinion, there has to be more to a mongering destination than just bars and pussy. But that is only my opinion and 20 years ago I might have felt differently.

[Sammon]

Aw come on, tell us what you really think, Stunning.

I go to both places every year and enjoy myself. Some people like Pattaya, some people prefer AC, meh.

I get that different people have different likes and dislikes. What I don't get is why some people think that if they don't like something then everybody else should dislike it too.

*shrug*

I agree. AC is AC whether you like it or not. As for me AC is a experience. If you are going to only one place to monger you need to select the one which you are happy with. Every place has its good and bad.

Sometimes I think Pattaya has its drawbacks as well in terms of girls attitude.

[Cunning Stunt]

I get that different people have different likes and dislikes. What I don't get is why some people think that if they don't like something then everybody else should dislike it too.

Do not suggest that others should dislike it. I only gave my reasons for detesting the place. Take away the pussy and how many foreigners would visit? I'll tell you - none.

Oh, I forgot another reason I dislike the place. It's full of lowlifes. Some of them Filipino.

[Rubberyman]

Angeles is Pattaya for masochists.

Although I've lived in The Philippines for most of the last fifteen years, Clinton was still in the White House the last time I spent a night in that shithole with it's bad, overpriced hotels, crap food, cherry girls and cheating, running wh@res. The place is the pits.

Aw come on, tell us what you really think, Stunning.

I go to both places every year and enjoy myself. Some people like Pattaya, some people prefer AC, meh.

I get that different people have different likes and dislikes. What I don't get is why some people think that if they don't like something then everybody else should dislike it too.

*shrug*

[Sky Ryder]

Angeles is Pattaya for masochists.

Although I've lived in The Philippines for most of the last fifteen years, Clinton was still in the White House the last time I spent a night in that shithole with it's bad, overpriced hotels, crap food, cherry girls and cheating, running wh@res. The place is the pits.

So, CS, how do you really feel.

[Cunning Stunt]

Angeles is Pattaya for masochists.

Although I've lived in The Philippines for most of the last fifteen years, Clinton was still in the White House the last time I spent a night in that shithole with it's bad, overpriced hotels, crap food, cherry girls and cheating, running wh@res. The place is the pits.

[WestCoast1]

1 month is just getting started with AC everything a guy could possibly want is there cept a beach which is a short trip to Subic away. If given a chance I plan to be there 1 yr or longer soon before it goes away forever and turns into a high priced airport complex. What is not there you guys want?

Ugh. To each his own. Other than the trim, there's nothing there worth going for. If you eliminate the girls, what would you do there? There's the mall, with the oodles of ancient kano walking around in shorts and flipflops, holding hands with some girl he thinks likes him (ya, that's appealing). Now what?

[Streetlooker]

Have you ever been to AC? If you've never been here, you might be in for a shock and want to leave after 1-2 weeks. So there's no point in commiting for a month.

I don't see how anyone can be here for a month.

1 month is just getting started with AC everything a guy could possibly want is there cept a beach which is a short trip to Subic away. If given a chance I plan to be there 1 yr or longer soon before it goes away forever and turns into a high priced airport complex. What is not there you guys want?

[Apeman 28]

Yep 20 peso ain't worth getting into a agrument in, but when compared to daily wages / food etc the AC Trike mafia and Airport Taxis are just fucking ripoffs. I only these pricks when I need to get to the cab rank with my bags. Jeepneys are the go or better still walk.

I just got back yesterday from 4 days in AC. It is the same as last month, last year. If you are worried about raids, don't. I have a friend that was a raid and he sat still and drank his beer and soon they came over and told him to leave. Don't ever get into an argument with a local, there is nothing worth arguing about. On another PI board a member was bitching about a trike fare of 70P, he wanted to give the driver 50P. He got into argument over 20P. Wow! IMHO if you can't afford 20P, please stay home.

Robb

[Philosophery]

there is an app name jibbigo which is a speech to speech translator. its for android and iphone and you just talk in it in english and it will translate in tagalog. it cost about five buck and i think is useful.

try itranslate which is free for the ipad or ipod. works great and translates about 40+languages.

[Robbaf]

It is always worthwhile to go to A. C., but is it safe? With the increasing raids and continuing murders, I would say not really. But having said that, if a person doesn't get too drunk, venture off the beaten path, or get into arguments with the locals, you'll probably be OK.

I just got back yesterday from 4 days in AC. It is the same as last month, last year. If you are worried about raids, don't. I have a friend that was a raid and he sat still and drank his beer and soon they came over and told him to leave. Don't ever get into an argument with a local, there is nothing worth arguing about. On another PI board a member was bitching about a trike fare of 70P, he wanted to give the driver 50P. He got into argument over 20P. Wow! IMHO if you can't afford 20P, please stay home.

Robb

[Ekspat]

I don't see how anyone can be here for a month.

Agree. For me too. 1 week or max. 10 days is just fine.

Next in December.

[Capt Munch]

I found a site that has apartments posted in Angeles city and I found some OK looking apartments for around $350 US per month. I'm considering renting an apartment for one month in Angeles sometime next year. Does this seem too good to be true or about right. Would it usually be a shithole for that price or so so. I don't need luxury, just a place that girls wouldn't mind going back to. Also I've read conflicting reports about how well one can communicate with the filipinas using American english. I'm in Brazil now and my lack of Portuguese is a really annoying issue at times. If I can get by pretty well not learning the language, I'd rather not spend too much time learning it. Thanks in advance!

Satyr. I was sort of hoping that you had posted a link (I wanted to see if those apartments were something I might be interested in.). It might have helped to give you a better answer.

First. I don't think you will have any problem with the English that is used in Philippines, at least in the major destinations. In the provinces, you will definitely find less.

I am no expert on all the neighborhoods. But there are better / more ex-pat friendly neighborhoods and of course the opposite. I have a couple of friends that have lived there in Angeles for a number of years. One probably is paying in that neighborhood (approx. $350 to $ 400 per month) for a pretty new unfurnished apartment. 2 bdrms 2 baths with a secure driveway. This is in Villa Sol past the Clarkton towards the Friendship Gate. The others live in the area around the VFW and actually pay less, again unfurnished. Even some of the "Gated" neighborhood have had their problems. So no place is perfect in Angeles but with more money involved, the better the results. You would have to see the conditions that the average Philipino (some of the girls and their families live in. At $ 50 or so a month) to appreciate some of the neighborhoods.

There are a number of apartments listed as furnished / unfurnished in the Blue Book. (

http://blue-bookph.com

) This local ad digest is available free every month around Angeles.

You could do what everybody is suggesting and only stay a few nights. I think Agoda had the Lewis Grand at $ 240 a night for a short stay. That seemed to be the high side with everything else coming in less. Prices are probably better if you deal directly with the hotel. The other hotels recommended here did not appear to be on Agoda. You will notice that most of the hotels offer a "discount", a littele when booked for a week or more for a month.

I am usually there for over a month (7 or 8 weeks) at a time and have stayed in a moderately priced hotel at $ 700 per month. It is NOT the Pacific Breeze / ABC / Lewis Grand / Savannah as are usually mentioned here. Those are considerably more.

But I seem to like the "shithole" and find that I enjoy many aspects of being in Angeles. I have friends there, play some golf and occasionally leave Angeles. This next trip I might go a little farther astray and see Cebu.

Without cute Filipinas for entertainment, it wouldn't be quite as fun. LOL.

Munch