Sauna Reviews

[Jacker777]

Best price value ratio in my opinion has golden and D2. Last time in may they were around 1100 to 1200. D2 isn't a sauna as its only a fish bowl and the room but 1, 5 hours with the girl. First 30 minutes a bubble bath and then one hour on the bed. But the girls were always very service oriented. There are 2 very cheap places similar to that. One is hot spot and the other is something like massage electric near to to the royal hotel. There 80 minutes cost only 660. I never managed to got into hot spot since it opens late and its a little fare away from the casino area. But I would try again if I was there for 4 days.

Golden is a full sauna, with in my opinion best best sauna. It also has the all the pools, showers, sauna room etc. So its a good option for a long relaxing stay with a lot girls to choose from. Only the rooms are a little small.

Anyway, I would always recommend to try several of the cheaper saunas instead of the expensive ones. That way you increase the chance of finding a realy good girl that you could repeat with.

Would be interesting to get more reports off the beaten tracks. There are a lot of saunas in the residential area away from the casions mainly for locals. They are a lot cheaper and we have enough reports from 18, Rio etc.

I will fly to HK in December after a Thailand trip, depending on my mood after Thailand I will stay in HK or take the ferry over to Macau. If I happen to do something new I will report, but I know myself good enough. I will propably call one of the sauna girls form my previous vistis and arrange a privat meeting.

Have fun

Thanks Osuul,

With 4 days to go to Macau, last minute preparations underway, condom, Blue pill, antibiotic, lubricant and what not!

I wonder if my English only limitation would be an issue in Macau. Can I expect Macau to be visitor friendly? Can someone suggest some crucial icebreaking words in Mandarin / Cantonese / Vietnamese / Indonesian / Philipino. I am also exploring a translation app for my iphone.

[HK Guy 2003]

I spent three nights and two days in Macau 10 days or so ago as my first outside of US / Canada mongering experience. Here are the results: One great (Rio) , one very good (Sanado) , one good (Darling1) , one ok (Darling1) , one bad (18).

I was walking by Sanado about 4:30 in the afternoon later that day and was told of the 'until 7 pm special' which also included a massage and something else I can't remember (and don't think I got). They were pushing me right from the beginning to get out there though. (Why even sell the early bird package then?) The lineup again was not all that impressive in my eyes. But I ended up choosing a cute Chinese girl from Hunan. Nice, small natural breasts (my preference). She definitely delivered the GFE.

I was also impressed with the service gals here. Had a neck and shoulder massage from a real cute Chinese girl (I'm pretty sure I would have chosen here if she was in the lineup). Another girl (not as cute, but funny and friendly) who claimed to be a banker in real life, joined in on the massage and enjoyed chatting with her as the cuter one knew very little English. I'm still kicking myself for not making a move on the pretty Indonesian girl who helped me get dressed at my locker.

I been to Sanado recently as well, there were several filipinas and indonesian girls working there, I agree that they are pretty, which was the one are you referring to, is she the tall Indonesian girl with the long legs and brown / black hair and the pretty face?

[Osuul]

Dear Mahal,

Thanks for your report. I had set aside a 4 days for exploring Macau and would have tried the various Saunas including D1, D2, RIO. 18, and East Spa. Thanks to your report I can now strike off 18 from the list. Alternatively I'd go to the place I liked the best or explore further by going to Sanado, or Golden. I have spend the last couple of months researching on the Macau Saunas, and the general impression I get is that they are all overpriced. But I am OK to spend (ben saving up for this) if the quality of the girls and the service they provide are good. Any advice from fellow mongers would be gratefully accepted and appreciated.

Best price value ratio in my opinion has golden and D2. Last time in may they were around 1100 to 1200. D2 isn't a sauna as its only a fish bowl and the room but 1, 5 hours with the girl. First 30 minutes a bubble bath and then one hour on the bed. But the girls were always very service oriented. There are 2 very cheap places similar to that. One is hot spot and the other is something like massage electric near to to the royal hotel. There 80 minutes cost only 660. I never managed to got into hot spot since it opens late and its a little fare away from the casino area. But I would try again if I was there for 4 days.

Golden is a full sauna, with in my opinion best best sauna. It also has the all the pools, showers, sauna room etc. So its a good option for a long relaxing stay with a lot girls to choose from. Only the rooms are a little small.

Anyway, I would always recommend to try several of the cheaper saunas instead of the expensive ones. That way you increase the chance of finding a realy good girl that you could repeat with.

Would be interesting to get more reports off the beaten tracks. There are a lot of saunas in the residential area away from the casions mainly for locals. They are a lot cheaper and we have enough reports from 18, Rio etc.

I will fly to HK in December after a Thailand trip, depending on my mood after Thailand I will stay in HK or take the ferry over to Macau. If I happen to do something new I will report, but I know myself good enough. I will propably call one of the sauna girls form my previous vistis and arrange a privat meeting.

Have fun

[Jacker777]

dear mahal,

thanks for your report. i had set aside a 4 days for exploring macau and would have tried the various saunas including d1, d2, rio. 18, and east spa. thanks to your report i can now strike off 18 from the list. alternatively i'd go to the place i liked the best or explore further by going to sanado, or golden. i have spend the last couple of months researching on the macau saunas, and the general impression i get is that they are all overpriced. but i am ok to spend (ben saving up for this) if the quality of the girls and the service they provide are good. any advice from fellow mongers would be gratefully accepted and appreciated.

sauna 18 is undergoing major renovation, which is disrupting normal activities and now is not a good time to go there. they told me the renovation in the pool area will last for another 2-3 months.

i bought a package in hkg for usd 253 and only found out about the renovation after i was already in macau, so too late to do anything about it. there is no more seated wash area so i was taken into a small room by some girl who gave me a rather unpleasant body scrub while commenting negatively on the fact that i did not appear sexually excited by her scraping my torso and arms with a used towel.

the rest was pretty much same as usual, except that they are pulling the girls into the main lounge area for the selection and there is not enough space to move there, which limits the choice to the girls standing in your immediate vicinity. got a vietnamese (she was one of the dancers in the show) who did a nice job, no complaints with that, got a bbbj in the shower along with a body massage and rimming, then again in the bed and she was actually very tight.

i have never quite figured out the color system at 18, red is supposed to be chinese but this girl had a red badge, said (and looked like) she is vietnamese and came at a premium.

slept a couple hours in one of the little compartments in the back before heading off. 18 is the only sauna i have ever tried in macau, i would try another one next time if i can also buy a package in hkg and stay there until morning, so that i don't have to take a hotel room. not sure which sauna (s) would best fit the bill, i prefer a big place to a small place. i will rtff but if someone has a quick recommendation please post or pm me. thanks.

[Mahal]

sauna 18 is undergoing major renovation, which is disrupting normal activities and now is not a good time to go there. they told me the renovation in the pool area will last for another 2-3 months.

i bought a package in hkg for usd 253 and only found out about the renovation after i was already in macau, so too late to do anything about it. there is no more seated wash area so i was taken into a small room by some girl who gave me a rather unpleasant body scrub while commenting negatively on the fact that i did not appear sexually excited by her scraping my torso and arms with a used towel.

the rest was pretty much same as usual, except that they are pulling the girls into the main lounge area for the selection and there is not enough space to move there, which limits the choice to the girls standing in your immediate vicinity. got a vietnamese (she was one of the dancers in the show) who did a nice job, no complaints with that, got a bbbj in the shower along with a body massage and rimming, then again in the bed and she was actually very tight.

i have never quite figured out the color system at 18, red is supposed to be chinese but this girl had a red badge, said (and looked like) she is vietnamese and came at a premium.

slept a couple hours in one of the little compartments in the back before heading off. 18 is the only sauna i have ever tried in macau, i would try another one next time if i can also buy a package in hkg and stay there until morning, so that i don't have to take a hotel room. not sure which sauna (s) would best fit the bill, i prefer a big place to a small place. i will rtff but if someone has a quick recommendation please post or pm me. thanks.

[Jdnorge]

Anyone have recent info. On the quality of the ladies? I want to explore the show and then some. Money is less important than great lookers. I have heard Golden is good too. Which place should be the target. Visit will be Monday-Wednesday, early evening.

Thanks.

[Osuul]

Voice,

You didn't miss a thing bro. Rio. 18, East, I tried them all and IMO they are all a rip off. Better off doing How Ming or Sanado with their 800MOP Viet girl choice. Of course, if you have to have the prettiest statue there then getting shitty service is almost the norm.

I have done much better with massage girls, etc and got great LT arrangements and lots of overnights for 500-1000MOP.

PC out

I have 11 Macao Entry stamps now. And I have not been to RIO since my 3 visit.

Rio and 18 suck at service. Better to go to a cheaper sauna. For the price of RIO you can take 2 girls there and usually with better service.

[TheQE]

I spent three nights and two days in Macau 10 days or so ago as my first outside of US / Canada mongering experience. Here are the results: One great (Rio) , one very good (Sanado) , one good (Darling1) , one ok (Darling1) , one bad (18).

Details: I arrived after a 16 hour flight in which I slept nearly nil and the plan to take a nap and head out somewhere (D2) in the early morning did not materialize. The next morning though, determined to make up for lost time, I hit Darling1 about 9 am. Not much to choose from. But ended up choosing a Viet girl from HCMC. She was attractive and rail thin (as I like 'them) ; but complained about my size and being sleepy throughout. My own jet lag (should have popped a blue pill) also was a factor in my inability to do the deed and could only muster a pop with a rigorous HJ. She was nice enough, however and spent a good amount of time on a BBBJ as well. (Ok)

I was walking by Sanado about 4:30 in the afternoon later that day and was told of the 'until 7 pm special' which also included a massage and something else I can't remember (and don't think I got). They were pushing me right from the beginning to get out there though. (Why even sell the early bird package then?) The lineup again was not all that impressive in my eyes. But I ended up choosing a cute Chinese girl from Hunan. Nice, small natural breasts (my preference). She definitely delivered the GFE.

I was also impressed with the service gals here. Had a neck and shoulder massage from a real cute Chinese girl (I'm pretty sure I would have chosen here if she was in the lineup). Another girl (not as cute, but funny and friendly) who claimed to be a banker in real life, joined in on the massage and enjoyed chatting with her as the cuter one knew very little English. I'm still kicking myself for not making a move on the pretty Indonesian girl who helped me get dressed at my locker.

I'm not sure I'the do the early bird special again as the management seems intent on getting you in and out quickly and the painfully uninspiring massage from a very unhappy camper seemed to last an eternity. But, I liked enough to want to go back if the opportunity were to arise again. (Very good)

Later that night, I went to Rio. Wow. Luxury. I chose, or truth be told, I was chosen by #830. The lineup went all the way around the room, but this Chinese beauty (from Guilin, I believe) smiled and stared at me for every moment. I'the try to scan the rest of the room, but every time my eyes returned to 830, there she was looking right at me, smiling broadly. There was no choice in the matter. In the room, up close, she was just plain drop dead gorgeous. The shallow bath, her rimming me. The eye contact throughout. Man, oh man.

The language barrier though, a problem everywhere, was a real bummer here especially. Or maybe it saved me from spending every last penny I had. We did still manage to communicate the essentials. She suggested a 2nd hour. I told her 'yes', but I would have to be able to kiss her (She had said in the 1st hour that my beard would scratch up her face). She agreed, and we went through a range of positions but after 3 pops that day, I couldn't finish and had to quit when I was too exhausted to keep at it. She was playful as we cuddled (drawing a watch around my wrist) , wrapping herself around me and fascinated apparently as she played with my honking yankee nose. (Great)

The next day. 18. I hated this place and my experience here with a passion. Why, oh why didn't I just go back to Rio? If I had gone here first I'the have never gone to another sauna again. The pool area is closed and sealed off so you had to walk through this narrow hallway to the shower area. As soon as I got there, I was accosted, pulled in every direction. For services or just to the tip sheet (I guess being yanked by your arm is a service worthy of a tip?) Finally make it into the lounge. All the service people, gave me nasty looks when I'the (politely) turn down their service offer. A Chinese girl named Snow grabs my hand and wants to go to a room (I guess she wasn't chosen in the last show). I tell her several times I want to wait for the show. She won't let go of my hand with this begging look in her eyes. Damn it. I give in. She's not unattractive; but not my type. Her ditzy personality is annoying.

I get back to the lounge after a sanitized round with this tissue obsessed girl and am angry at the management here and at myself for not being more forceful in my refusals with Snow and the shower girls. I've already spent the cash I brought to spend and haven't seen a lineup yet (I was very curious to see what they had on the African front and take in the whole spectacle. I sat at the computer there thinking I could always just see a lineup and use my credit card if someone struck my fancy. No, I decided that I wanted out of this place and to not give them another penny of my money. (Bad)

Determined though not to let this be the concluding experience of my visit, I gather myself to hit Darling1 again later that night. The fishbowl is full. I get seated in the back by a mamasan who is anxious for me to choose. Only one girl really stands out from my vantage point. She had walked across the floor just as I'the sat down and taken her position in the smaller model fishbowl. #800. Mamasan says she is Vietnamese, but I still don't think so. Her eyes were more round, her skin color more dark. Her accent was different as well.

Anyway, I choose her though she seems quite reserved, sitting there. The mamasan assures me she will give good service and says she speaks some English. As it turns out, very little. She warms up some, but not a lot. But is she beautiful. Tall, runway type in my eyes at least. She was very shy (and young) , but agreeable enough. Good.

I stayed at the Casa Real. Room and facilities were good, but I wouldn't stay here again. Some things about the staff annoyed me and though it's not far from the center of everything, you have to cross a hectic highway with cars coming in all kind of directions to go anywhere but Darling1. Also as a first time Asia traveler, very little English in that immediate area at all. I would stay at the Holiday Inn next time. More central and there were restaurants across the street with English menus.

[Pcpc1688]

Hi.

This was my fifth visit to Macau. While I've tried the various sanuas, darlings etc, until now I hadn't visited Rio. From what I read, Rio was supposed to be the duck's nuts of Macau's saunas so I could hardly wait.

I bought a Rio voucher at the ferry terminal for $2k which was inclusive of the ferry. Went to Rio's on Thursday night as the girls were about to do the show. I was told I could pick any girl with a "heart" but one with a star will cost and extra $500. This is like most of the sauna's, including 18 but the difference was that the overwhelming majority were in the "star" category and only 8 girls in the "hearts". So despite all I heard there was not much of a choice and all 8 were average at best. I chose number 215 as she looked the prettiest of the 8. Her service was lousy. Did the usual routine but without too much emthusiasm and would not allow DATY. The session was over in 40 minutes. I get much better service at a better price from prettier Korean girls here in Australia. And that is most unusual with my Macau punts.

In short, I found Rio a disappointment and nowhere near the standard of 18. Yet this place appears to be rated highly by punters. Have I missed something?

Voice,

You didn't miss a thing bro. Rio. 18, East, I tried them all and IMO they are all a rip off. Better off doing How Ming or Sanado with their 800MOP Viet girl choice. Of course, if you have to have the prettiest statue there then getting shitty service is almost the norm.

I have done much better with massage girls, etc and got great LT arrangements and lots of overnights for 500-1000MOP.

PC out

[Pcpc1688]

Was there GP week. Not so good room rates for sure.

Tried a local massagi place across from Sun Yat Sun Park. Got a nice Viet gorl for 150MOP hr.

She was very nice a did a great job. Towards the end though she said almost oo late for HJ but I said please do it anyway. No problem she said as I played with her nice clean pussy while she stroked me. Left her 180mop tip ans was on my way.

Got FS from an older Chinese lady at the one near MGM for 540 MOP but would rather do the Viet girl when I return next year.

PC out

[Trawlerman]

Transit through HK with an overnight stopover. How to spend the time? Hop over to Macau, of course. Now, I've never taken the ferry direct from the airport. I was planning to this time but, arriving at about 5pm, I found out that the next one was at 7. 50pm. It must be quicker to take the train in to central and then the ferry from there. Well, not by very much. By the time I got to the ferry terminal, the next one to go was at 7. 15pm. Hardly worth it, really, considering the extra hassle and train fare, when I could have stayed in the airport lounge.

Anyway, one thing about going through the central ferry terminal is that I got to buy a package ticket to East Spa ($1860 for entrance, FS massage plus a choice of 45 min massage by two girls, BB bath, female back scrub, and some other option I've forgotten. (These are priced at $250 each, approx, so minus the approx $330 for ferry tickets, the cost of FS with the package is $1280. Well, that's one way of seeing it.)

An East Spa girl meets me at the ferry terminal, waits with me for the shuttle and soon I'm undressing in the locker area. Now the next part, I was a little confused by, probably not having RTFF enough. They give you a thin wrist thing. A bit like a hair tie. That you can give to a girl waiting by the pool, who will then wash you in the shower with a quick BBBJ. IMO, the best thing would be to do this right away and then follow it up with a BB bath with the same girl. Or a different one. Just to get you in the mood. (BB bath, by the way, involves going to another room, lying on a table and being washed and rubbed by a naked girl, using her breasts, ass, legs, everything really, plus a quick BBBJ.) An alternative would be to go for the Queen's bath, which is where the naked girl accompanies you in the pool. It's a bit more expensive ($400) and wasn't included as an option in my package. But I saw a group of four guys doing this with four girls in the same pool and it looked pretty good.

But back to what I actually did, which was to head into the sauna. It's good one, complete with cold plunge inside, which I like. From there, I could see the girls come and go. Some of them put their asses up agains the sauna's glass wall, which was nice. Mostly, they looked a little bored, playing "connect 4" and staring vacantly. Eventually, I figured out about the little black wrist things and selected a girl for the shower / BJ, which she performed in an absolutely minimal way, without any enthusiasm, not even a smile. OK. Well, dry off, pajamas on and through to the lounge area. This holds 20-30 guys in recliner chairs. While waiting, there are a number of massage-only girls, dressed in red, who'll do leg, head, foot massage for about $150 a time. One was pretty and insistent so I indulged in a head massage, which was good. Drinks. At least the basic non-alcoholic ones are free.

On to the famous show. Which was impressive. About 30 girls, all fuckable IMO, and in costume parade around the lounge and then pair up with the customers, switching after a minute or so. I attended two of these and they were different. Different costumes, different "activites" by the girls, but both included a brief BBBJ. The others were various forms of cuddling and fondling, with ass, tits, etc.

I was prepared for a mad rush to select girls after the show but in fact, I was the first. I picked 88, who later told me her name was Yan Yan, from the Lian in the NE. Tall and pretty, with nice legs, an cute little apple breasts, she turned out to be in the "model" category, which cost me an extra $300. Was it worth it? Well, I don't know. In terms of service, she was a little rushed and seemed a bit "above it all" but she was very pretty and had a sensuous manner which made me really enjoy fucking her. When it came to the sex itself, it seemed that although she would have liked to have stayed apart from it all, the woman in her just couldn't help responding to the situation.

By the time we'd finished, I was hungry. Hainanese chicken rice and dumpling soup. Not bad. I couldn't go back through to the main lounge because another show was going on. Pirate outfits this time. So they put me in a different lounge. Later I went back to the sauna / pool area, hung out a bit more and eventually used my BB bath option from the voucher. Nice young girl, number 30, from Hunan, gave me a good going over, which had me horny again and contemplating another session. I went back in for a second show. Cut babydoll lingerie this time. And was tempted. But my plan was to check out at least one other sauna on this trip.

Time: approx 2am. I'd slept on my previous flight and was feeling wide awake, thanks to jet lag. A short walk took me to Sanado. I'm sure this has been reported before, but not having properly RTFF, I missed it. The place is obviously owned by the same people as East Spa. Same extras, similar costumes, same food, similar girls. The basic difference is that the place is a little older, without some of the flasher facilities (like the cold plunge in the sauna) and the girls are all at lower end of the East spa girls in the look department. Still very sexy. Most of them. But no really hot lookers. And there was no show. At least not at the time of night I visited. The welcome shower / BJ was done much better here, however, although I think that was largely a matter of luck. And having envied those guys who went for the Queen bath at East spa, I tried one here. Girl 150 did it very well and spoke (Chinese) throughout in a cute baby voice that was quite a turn on. Later in the lounge, I was sitting next to a semi-obnoxious Macau guy who was quite drunk and insulting the staff. Kept wanting to "high 5" me. After a while, all the girls "presented themselves" to us in a row and selections were made. Like in East spa, the girls come and lie down with you after the selection, while they discuss the "menu". I didn't look too closely. Menu A was a fairly standard sequence of breast massage, tongue bath, ass rim (with condom) , jelly lick, fire and ice (actually ice and fire. Well, lightly warm water mixed with mouth rinse) , BBBJ and sex. My girl. 208. Indicated that she preferred menu A so I didn't really look too closely at the others.

After the routine. In a fully mirrored room, which is a definite advantage for this sort of thing where you really want the visuals to appreciate what is happening. She surprised me by willing accepting my DATY and even suggesting a 69. All in all, quite a goer. The damage: $1400 or so for the FS, $400 for the Queen bath, and $150 for a leg massage. Oh, and they charged me an extra $100 to sleep in a curtained-off area away from the main lounge. This seemed a little shoddy of them, after the amount of money I'd already spent, but I was past caring.

Summary: going to a Macau sauna is definitely better than staying in a hotel in HK for a stopover. I really like the greet with shower / BJ idea as well as the musical-chairs style show. The choice of girls and service was ok. If I had the choice, I'd prefer to go to Pattaya, say, but that's not really to compare like-with-like. A better comparison is with the saunas of Shanghai. Where I have found the service to be better (but I may have been lucky there) but without the variety and sense of theatre that you get in Macau. Horses for courses.

[Bukudala]

After RTFF on this wonderful site and ******. Com, I'm a bit overwhelmed.

D1, D2, 18, Sonada, East Sauna, Empire, jeez, if you had 24 hours in Macau, and as a newbie, want a great first impression, where would you choose to spend your time? What's the a la carte pricing for the "thigh massage," assisted shower, etc? Do the ladies try to upsell in the rooms say for A-levels, etc. Or are the services on a menu, as suggested in some reviews. Do you tip? And if so, what's standard? And what if during the thigh massage or assisted shower, you got carried away? And, yes, is safe sex the standard, or is it ever negotiable?

With a b2b oil massage, assisted shower, I think it's easy to accidently "slip in," without much effort.

And finally, being Chinese-American, but never having been with any Asians. Which nationality would you recommend? My preference has always been for Eastern-European, but it's pointless to see any of them in Macau, both for service reasons, and since I spend quite a bit of time in UK / Europe enjoying the FKK and other p4p venues.

Thanks!

[BionicMan]

I hear what you say but nevertheless, unless I was there on a bad night, I still think the overall quality of girls were better at Sauna18. I would happily pay more for a higher standard of girls and amenities but I felt it just wasn't there at Rios. The "star" girls were not in my opinion any better than similarly or lower priced girls at 18 or D1. Their standard "heart" girls were of a much lower standard than 18, D1 or I would suggest even most of the mid level suanas in Macau. Also I would have though that being up a level would mean management wouldn't tolerate a client only getting 40 minutes of service regardless of chemistry. All they said to me was sorry and they will "talk to the girl". No offer of compensation etc.

I fully agree on your concepts: poor management.

You can care if they talk to the girl.

At the best the next customer gets the benefit.

But you had the damage. And the chances you are back with the same girl are quite thin.

[AussieDoug]

Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks

Easiest way I found was to take a cab (or walk if you have a map) to Landmark Hotel, go inside hotel, turn your back to the reception counter and walk left to the side door, exit and turn left, then take the next left turn (not to be confused with some alley, a real street) and about 70 yards / metres along there will be a counter out front, this guy speaks no english, (Chinese marketing guru at it's best) go inside and take the stairs on the left at the back of the foyer to the basement and there you are.

[The Voice]

Rio is not for the price conservative folks.

You don't buy a Mercedes with no optionals, you select extras too.

When at a restaurant you select the menu of the day most of the dishes are the same as the a la carte, but portions are smaller.

I stay away from the HK ferry terminal vouchers as you get what you pay for. You can't get the same level of girl / service or package that you get when you pay full price.

That is a fact. Otherwise the rest of the folks would be idiot not to use the ferry voucher system.

Then one has to account for the individual girl and the chemistry you can build up.

Rio is up level also in terms of facilities, cleaning, proper rooms, large lounge, friendly staff.

Just as the 2 or 3 or 4 star hotels: rooms differ, but you are still often just sleeping there.

Depends what you are looking for.

I hear what you say but nevertheless, unless I was there on a bad night, I still think the overall quality of girls were better at Sauna18. I would happily pay more for a higher standard of girls and amenities but I felt it just wasn't there at Rios. The "star" girls were not in my opinion any better than similarly or lower priced girls at 18 or D1. Their standard "heart" girls were of a much lower standard than 18, D1 or I would suggest even most of the mid level suanas in Macau. Also I would have though that being up a level would mean management wouldn't tolerate a client only getting 40 minutes of service regardless of chemistry. All they said to me was sorry and they will "talk to the girl". No offer of compensation etc.