Morocco

[Miked1]

Pepe17,

Please. Can you give me / us the name of the place or adresss?

I will be there in 2 weeks.

Many thanks.

Went to Marrakesh with my friend for 3 days visit. We stayed in the hotel at Gueliz, about 10-12 dirham by taxi to Jamaa el fna square. Around the square, jamal el fna, there are lot of guys hanging around with small flyers advertising hammam, massage and sauna.

But these people approaching some foreigners only. I approched one and he speaks good english, and I asked about the hamman and if is done by women, he explained to me everything, including other services done by the girl, I gave him a bahshish (about £1. 50) , he took me and my friend to see the place. The place is clean and safe and is official for hammam, we went back to the hotel and about 6 pm we went there. Agreeing hamman and 1 hour massage for 300 Dirham (£23). Took the clothes off and put in a locker and the key with you, went to the hammam room which is like the sauna, a very nice morrocan girl about 20 yrs did the wash, she did not speak english at all, but was very friendly, basically is body wash including body scrub with different herbal soaps, at the beginning they gave us an underware like bikini, but later we took them off. After the wash about 40 mins, we went to the room for the massage, where the funny started.

The girls on the massage they speak english, not much but was ok. Started the 1 hour massage, first on the back, then turn over, the mr. D was already on demand, the girl asked me what about this (showing mr. D) I said well what you going to do, she said "you say", and I replied BJ, she replied 150 dirham (£11. 50) , FS 350 dirham (£27) , I opted for BJ. Was very professional, and I was very happy, when finished she continued with the massage for about 5 mins, then back again to the sauna for the last wash, went back to the locker and put my clothes back. We chated for a while while we were drinking mint tea and paid the money and went back to the hotel. It was really a very good experience.

Hint: Only basic service (hammam and massage) is discussed by the boss at the beginning nothing else, all other things you speak with the girl on the room, and you should give her money for the extra service inside the massage room NOT outside. More details please. Pm me for name of the place and contact no. Of the guy.

I am planning another visit.

[Pepe17]

Went to Marrakesh with my friend for 3 days visit. We stayed in the hotel at Gueliz, about 10-12 dirham by taxi to Jamaa el fna square. Around the square, jamal el fna, there are lot of guys hanging around with small flyers advertising hammam, massage and sauna.

But these people approaching some foreigners only. I approched one and he speaks good english, and I asked about the hamman and if is done by women, he explained to me everything, including other services done by the girl, I gave him a bahshish (about £1. 50) , he took me and my friend to see the place. The place is clean and safe and is official for hammam, we went back to the hotel and about 6 pm we went there. Agreeing hamman and 1 hour massage for 300 Dirham (£23). Took the clothes off and put in a locker and the key with you, went to the hammam room which is like the sauna, a very nice morrocan girl about 20 yrs did the wash, she did not speak english at all, but was very friendly, basically is body wash including body scrub with different herbal soaps, at the beginning they gave us an underware like bikini, but later we took them off. After the wash about 40 mins, we went to the room for the massage, where the funny started.

The girls on the massage they speak english, not much but was ok. Started the 1 hour massage, first on the back, then turn over, the mr. D was already on demand, the girl asked me what about this (showing mr. D) I said well what you going to do, she said "you say", and I replied BJ, she replied 150 dirham (£11. 50) , FS 350 dirham (£27) , I opted for BJ. Was very professional, and I was very happy, when finished she continued with the massage for about 5 mins, then back again to the sauna for the last wash, went back to the locker and put my clothes back. We chated for a while while we were drinking mint tea and paid the money and went back to the hotel. It was really a very good experience.

Hint: Only basic service (hammam and massage) is discussed by the boss at the beginning nothing else, all other things you speak with the girl on the room, and you should give her money for the extra service inside the massage room NOT outside. More details please. Pm me for name of the place and contact no. Of the guy.

I am planning another visit.

[Young2]

Thanks Poloz1133

Thanks guys. Its great help for us. Nice forum with nice tips. Poloz1133 or Hunter can you please advice us which appartments we can rent where we can not have any problem. Kindly can I get the mobile number til driver Poloz1133 or hunter1? It will be a great help.

Thanks in advance

[Masey]

Hi guys,

I am looking to go to Marrakech in February this year in a group of 7 or 8 guys, obviously we will need a 'woman friendly' apartment, can anyone suggest any good places to rent? Would we better off choosing a villa? Does a villa tend to get less hassle from police and the locals?

Also what is the deal with clubs and bars? I know of Club Paradise. But what other locations do you recommend for picking up women. We are quite young. And would prefer girls aged between 18. 30 ideally slim and tanned.

Can anyone give me some advice on this topic. Many thanks!

[Sebans]

Another tip you gentlemen are missing, and is the MOST important: for the last time! STOP paying these bitches more than 500 dirhams a night! Because of this I am having a hard time getting a decent night of fun in morocco! Are you people so needy of getting ripped off so badly? I have payed at the very max 600 dirhams in tangier, and these girls were real nice! The last one that was with me, didn't ask me for nothing, but, of course she was probably expecting me to give her something, I gave her 500 dirhams, she gladly accepted, after I had sex with her, we slept together. LOL I still communicate with her and her other girl friend on facebook. Next time I go to morocco, I intend on giving them both the same amount, and because I like them, I'm also going to bring a nice dress to each of them, as a present.

I was in Agadir last year and I paid 500/600 dirams, This year in Marrakesh I had to pay 1000 or 1200 Dirams. Don't know the cause of this price increase but may be is due to the fact that the girls in Marrakessh are all from out of town and have to rent an apartment.

Whatever the reason, even if I am a short and cheap flight away, I wan't come back to Maroccco until the price drops again.

[Marco Paulo]

Another tip you gentlemen are missing, and is the MOST important: for the last time! STOP paying these bitches more than 500 dirhams a night! Because of this I am having a hard time getting a decent night of fun in morocco! Are you people so needy of getting ripped off so badly? I have payed at the very max 600 dirhams in tangier, and these girls were real nice! The last one that was with me, didn't ask me for nothing, but, of course she was probably expecting me to give her something, I gave her 500 dirhams, she gladly accepted, after I had sex with her, we slept together. LOL I still communicate with her and her other girl friend on facebook. Next time I go to morocco, I intend on giving them both the same amount, and because I like them, I'm also going to bring a nice dress to each of them, as a present.

[El Kapitan]

I appreciate all the great tips guys!

Happy Holidays!

EK

[Mr Punter]

Morocco is a challenging destination to even the most experienced of the punters. Moroccan girls are real con artists and can fake guys to confront difficult situations. I write these tips based on my several trips to this destination. I see in the forum that there is a lot of misinformation and confusion. Follow my tips and avoid being ripped off

Rule 1: Keep moroccan men away. Several men will approach to help you if they get the slightest hint that you are a foreigner looking for girls. These guys will take advantage of the fact the you may not be fluent in Arabic / French. They can only hook you with the most hardened pros. These guys would U-turn up at will if they get to know where you stay and may demand money exploiting your ignorance. Also many girls would avoid you if you are with a local moroccan men as these girls prefer to be discrete and want all the share of your money to themselves rather than sharing with the middle men.

Rule 2: In morocco girls charge per shot and not based on time. On an average the cost is 400-500 for 1 shot. 700-800 for 2 shots for a good looking girl. If you took the hardened pros from clubs like monte cristo / paradise the girls may even expect 1500 per shot. I see many reports here that the girl left after the first shot. Totally true if you took them too early from a club / have paid them in advance / haven't done your negotiation properly. Multiple shots usually mean 2 even if you negotiated 3 or 4. Some girls may even hang around the entire day with you but will make sure you don't exceed the number of shots they have in mind (if negotiated price is 800 she may stay with you for 24 hrs but you won't get more than 2 shots). Many a times these girls may come from neighboring towns and are just looking for a free nice place to stay. They will pretend to be asleep or keep themselves engaged with their friend or prefer to spend time with you in restaurants / shisha bars at your expense. Just because they spend time with you doesn't necessarily mean that they like you or you are going to get 1 shot every 2 hours. These girls just exploit you by hogging up your space and time. You don't have to be nice but just politely ask them to leave and they will. Your time and agenda is important so don't let these girls ruin your vacation.

Rule 3: You may meet girls who will behave like normal girls. They will get all details about you by asking you various questions before coming with a plan. These girls usually claim that they are not prostitutes. Beware of these type. You may end up paying a fortune without getting much in turn. They will usually claim that they want to be friends and don't want money. They want you to take them (their friends including) to night clubs, pay cover charge, make you buy a table, pay for pretty much everything they like. They may even come with ideas like going on a trip to a nice resort etc. At the end they will still expect you to pay money and create a big hassle if you don't oblige. Stay away unless you are prepared to be exploited for some mundane sex which you could have got for a few hundred dirhams.

Rule 4: Keep your belongings safe. Some girls would insist that you take shower. This is a good time for them to check your pockets and your room for valuables. Remember most of them have been observing where you are taking your cash from in the club / taxi and they know where to look for when you are taking the shower expecting horny sex when you come out.

Rule 5: Always keep a 100-200 dirhams for LE just in case. LE will not directly come to you as they don't really want to hassle us foreigners but defenitely want a share. When these girls make what LE make in a month in just a matter of few days I think LE are fairly entitled to their share. But these girls won't pay it from their pocket and certainly expect you to pay. Even two taxi system may not work as LE usually follow taxi and catch at the destination. Treat LE with respect and they will not harm you as they have no intentions to do that.

Rule 6: You may meet girls who claim they are virgins and would only have sex if you intend to marry them. They will stay with you and tell you anything is permitted except sex. They will usually make you very horny and have sex with you and demand a very huge price (5k to 10k MAD) for having lost their virginity to you before marriage. Simply stay from these type.

Some Dos.

1. Always tell the girls that this is your 5th or 6th time in Morocco and you are well versed with the terrain even if it is your first trip. This will make the girls think twice before they start to play games.

2. Try and avoid the girl's friend into your apartment especially if you don't speak Arabic. Don't let two street smart brains work against your only one. When in your apartment they will constantly scheme against you if you can't understand their conversation. Tell them that only one girl is allowed by security to enter your apartment.

Act smart always and out smart them whenever you can. Don't get ripped off unnecessarily and let them thrive and encourage them to do it to others.

Moroccans are in general very nice people and treat foreigners with utmost respect. Many of them will go out of their way to help you if they know that you are a tourist who have come to visit their culture food and country. I've never come across rude or hostile behaviour from anyone in general. Always be discrete and respectful. Treat every moroccan with respect and you will have a good time.

[AdventureMike]

(Can someone please explain what hash is, is it a drug, or some offspring of Marijuana?)

Hash is just the resin extracted from the pot leaves, so is quite saturated with THC and very potent, without the actual leaves. I haven't smoked anything in 20 years but I still have friends who do.

Great reports by the way. I hope to visit some of those places later this month when I am there.

[Hunter4]

Thanks Poloz1133

[Poloz1133]

Geat report Poloz1133.

Despite my comments regarding how expensive Marrackech and in general Morocco has become starting from taxi, accomadation, ladies and general tips I travel due to work and would appreciate the following:-

- How did you book / get you appartment.

- Can you provide contact details for your driver and what was his daily rate.

You can PM me. Thanks for you info. Any places that you can recomend that is value for money?

Hunter,

It appears that I can't pm you. The apartment I actually used Homeaway.com to find, and I believe VRBO has some good ones as well. I looked at where another member stayed, and was lucky enough to find an apartment in that same complex.

I don't want to post my driver info publicly, but will be happy to give it to you. You will have such a great time with him, he is very knowledgeable about Marrakesh, affordable, and loves the lades.

[Hunter4]

Geat report Poloz1133.

Despite my comments regarding how expensive Marrackech and in general Morocco has become starting from taxi, accomadation, ladies and general tips I travel due to work and would appreciate the following:-

- How did you book / get you appartment.

- Can you provide contact details for your driver and what was his daily rate.

You can PM me. Thanks for you info. Any places that you can recomend that is value for money?

[Poloz1133]

Alright, so I have already left but I thought I would post my last findings. I won't be too detailed on this one, but will try to point out the main things.

Narjis again:

I had such a great time the last time that I went there, that I decided to go again. Narjis on the weekend, and during the week are two different places. I can only assume that some of the ladies who work part-time come there only on the weekend, and that was why it was so crowded. Now when I went during the week, it was still a decent crowd, but I must share this: In order to get a table, you have to buy a bottle. Trying to get a girl while sitting at the bar is suicide, as again the wealthy Arabs go there, so the ladies are constantly watching to see who has what. That is how they judge who is worth talking to. I made the fatal mistake of sitting at the bar, and trying to talk with the girls while I was at the bar was not happening at all. See I don't drink, hence the reason for me not having a table, now on the weekend it so many people there that nobody is really paying attention to anyone else, but during the week when it is less people, the girls are watching, as they are all at tables, so I guess they feel that can't atleast talk with someone who is not a table. So didn't have success that night, so for anyone going to Narjis during the week, keep that in mind. Appearances are everything.

Paradise,

I thought I owed it to myself to atleast see this place and see what all the talk was about. I followed what another poster said and got there about midnight, I can only assume that it's like Narjis during the week meaning it is a lot less people that go there during the week, and it didn't get going to about almost 3am. Paradise is more like a traditional dance club, there are still tables, but it's easy to sit at the bar and chat up the ladies. Hell even dance if you want, it's cool to do so, and with the ladies. Now I made a fatal mistake in here, I found a really big butted Moroccan that I had been looking for my whole trip, but communication killed it. My translator app got me going, but that place doesn't have wifi, and I had to rely on the history to say what I wanted. Luckily the girl had a friend there that spoke great English, and she helped me get the girl. My fatal mistake (and rookie too) was I didn't ask for what I was paying ($1500 MAD) the time that was included. And I was thinking too, I better ask how long this girl will stay because girls that I have already slept with will easily go for $1000 MAD and stay all night. Well I didn't ask and I am sure you guys know what happened immediately after we finished, she left. I am sure to go right back to the club LOL. Now this would have had to have been about 4am too, and that is what I got for not opening my mouth. But anyway the one shot I was able to get off with her was a good one, so I didn't trip too much, but as she was getting dressed I was in a little disbelief.

Marrakesh Observations:

- Would I go there again, probably not. But only because I want to see other places. The women there are smoking, like really smoking, but without being able to speak Arabic or French, it truly is a disservice as the girls won't hang around after the deed is done, and that is a bummer.

- With Marrakesh becoming sex tourist destination, it is bring negative effects. The reason the girls ask for so much is because they will probably get extorted when they leave the club on the way to come see you. For example, there was another girl that I took out of Narjis, and her Taxi got stopped twice, and the police took 100 MAD each time to let her pass.

- The police don't really want to take anyone to jail, and really happy just to be paid off. And they are really on the hunt at night, so just be on guard, and do not ride with your girl in her Taxi no matter what she says. Use the 2 taxi system.

- Things really do get started late there, so don't really plan to leave till about 2:30 am, and if you just have to be early 1:30 at the earliest.

- Day spot, all the places are really close with the exception of Narjis and Yasmeen (which pains me that I didn't visit) , but it is good to have an idea of where these places are so you can plan accordingly. It seems that the ladies will head to Monte Cristo and Afrika Chic early, then head to Paradise if they didn't get taken by anyone at those venues. I think another place closes later than Paradise, but I wasn't around that late. I believe Narjis closes at 6am.

- More ladies will be around on the weekend, and I can only assume the major influx are because of semi-pros who just want to make extra money. Case and point, Nadia. I really liked her a lot, and after a few days called to say what's up, and learned that she was at home in Rabat, my driver leaned over to me and said it was 3 hrs from Marrakesh.

- I agree with Hunter4, and probably shouldn't have paid the prices that I did, but I will admit, I really thought "Arab" women were off limits. When I saw that I could have them, my curiosity got the better of me. Also too though, keep in mind these same girls probably go to Dubai, and make 5 times as much, so I didn't trip on what I was paying as I know Moroccan girls won't even blink at saying $1000 for a night in Dubai.

- One last thing, should you decide you want to repeat with a lady, if they really like you, they will accept 1000 MAD or less.

[Poloz1133]

Great report Poloz!

I will be in Marrakesh for Christmas this year and a few days after.

I need some tips on the following:

Hotels. Prefer 4. 5 stars. I would like to know what is girl friendly as well.

Massage. I am really into erotic massage / tantra massage. I am not a full service kind of guy but still would like to be able to get a great massage with a HJ or BJ in my room or hotel spa if possible.

Don't. Any info on what I call "don't" would be helpful such as where not to go, what not to do, etc.

Thanks for any / all help!

EK

Hey EK,

For sure,"don't" get a hotel. If you will try to bring back ladies, you will have all sorts of problems. And that even came from a lot of the girls to, I can't tell you how relieved they looked when I told them that I had an apartment. Your best bet is the try and find an apartment in Gueliz, and go from there. It is a pretty centrally located area, and you will be around all the hot spots. My driver had told me about a massage place, but with all the other activities going on, I didn't get to make it over there. But even if you get an apartment, you might have to pay off your doorman to bring back ladies, but they seem to be happy with $200 MAD and under (my lowest tip was $50 MAD).

[Hunter4]

Once upon a time a great place however now it has become very expensive expensive expensive considering the average monthly wage is 3000 MAD and the ladies will not go below 1, 500 MAD. Trust me there is plenty of supply hence we need to club together and not go above 750 MAD. Lets not spoil the paradise. Once they realise that we will not pay and go without they will lower there expectations