Guadalajara

[Dylock]

I will be in Mexico from mid-Aug to mid-October. I will be in GDL for at least 4 weeks at IMAC Spanish school and then probably travel to other places like Mexico City, etc. I decided on staying at the guest house near the school rather than homestay or hotel.

I have made contact with dozens of girls on www.yupimsn.com. I paid $30 to allow them to contact me for free for 3 months and I have been getting many letters. Before I posted my preference for a girl in the USA or Mexico or someone who can travel to the USA, I was literally getting 15 new letters per day, sometimes from very beautiful women. The problem is that a great number of them are in Peru or Colombia where I have no intention (or means) of going in the near future. Anyway, you guys might be interested in that site especially if you post a photo and write a friendly profile but you really do need to know Spanish to make it worthwhile. I have 2 chicks who want to meet me in Mexico City when I am down there, and one of them wants to take me to Acapulco. We'll see!

I can't wait to talk to some Guadalajara girls! They sound really nice!

[Member #4239]

Without a doubt, Guadalajara has some of the most beautiful women in Mexico. I am about to say the same thing here that I have said in my posting on Rio. The women are very friendly. The way for you to meet some potential girl friends is just to approach them and talk to them. You can practically do this anywhere. I went out with bank tellers, travel agents, students, even girls that I just talked to in Gigante(one of the main super markets). University of Guadalajara(U. de G.) has several campuses where you can meet young women. C.U.(ciudad universitaria)which is the campus for the autonoma (UAG) is my favorite hunting ground. All the malls as well as plaza tapatia are also good places to pick up girls.
Now some more advice:
1. If a girl is not interested, don't push the issue. They may be married or have a boy friend, etc. Don't get yourself in trouble. Just go on to the next girl.
2. Guadalajara is a fairly prosperous city, relative to the rest of the latin cities/countries. Some of the girls are very high class and certainly not as desperate as the girls in Cuba, etc. So you need to act accordingly. You may not always score on the first day, but you almost surely will by the second or third date.
3. Aim high. Go for the most beautiful and attractive girl. Like I said, the people are friendly, and if the girl likes you, she'll go with you.
4. How do you approach the girls? well, I usually just use the line, "hola, buenos dias or tarde, soy nuevo en su ciudad, le puedo invitar a un cafe o refresco?".....transaltion, "hi, I am new in your city, can I invite you for a coffee or soda", and that's it...I guarantee, about 5 out of ten times, you're gonna get a very favorable response.
5. Knowing a few Luis Miguel songs won't hurt either...just kidding...
Again, don't forget the campus at C.U., it is the place for the best looking and classiest girls in the entire city.
Good luck. J.G.

[IhateUPS]

I'm about ready to head down to GDL for a couple of months. A lot of these posts seem kind of old. Wondering if anybody has the recent info on where to go down there?? thanks

[Dylock]

Hey Prok,
That is a great idea to go with the homestay initially and then look around if necessary. That way I at least know I have a ceiling on costs and some level of stability.

Overall, it sounds like you can do pretty well if you are consciously respectful to the women, which does NOT work in the U.S. in my experience. Disrespect seems to be the key here. I guess I will see how approachable they are compared to the white American lesbo princesses. My goal would be primarily to have some chick(s) to date and French kiss, and if they want to throw pussy my way it is just a bonus. I can always go to the esteticas in the meantime. In any case it sounds like fun.

After reading the reviews, I will not even enter a strip club. Thanks a lot for your candor.

[Prokofiev]

Dylock,
No, I'm not familiar with either hotel. If you are staying multiple weeks (4-12), then I think I would sign-up for a home stay for the first week and play it by ear. You can check-out your options after you are there in Guadalajara. I doubt that one week in a home is going to cramp your style. The esteticas are reasonable and even if you DO meet a chica or two during the first week, don't expect to score the first few days or dates. Showing respect is VERY important with mexicanas and you should move slow. So no matter how fast you hook-up with someone, the first week won't make any difference. Who knows, you might luck-out with a great homestay and you will be ahead of the game moneywise.
...The school does a good job of orientation the first day - with info, maps, tips about the city, etc. Read the Archives and beware of the strip clubs. I found them expensive and loud. Save your pesos for dates or esteticas. Valentino's is bare bones, but a good deal. Try it at least once. Don't be put-off by the coolness of the entrance. A locked door and a woman in a white smock who will look like a nurse. Once you are in the back, the girls can be as sweet as sugar.
... Th University is a short walk away-about 10? blocks. Look here for a tutor who might meet you an hour a week for a cheap lesson. You can hook-up this way. Also take advantage of the formal introductions so common in Mexico. If you want to meet a woman, find someone to introduce you. She MUST go thru all the motions of meeting you - and you will say "Muchissimo gusto de conocerla" or "El gusto es mio" etc. Getting your foot in the door is the most important part. After that, let's see how much charm you have!! Good Luck. -P

[Dylock]

Thanks Prokofiev. I never knew I would find the best school information on THIS site. At least I am getting the real deal here.

Besides homestay ($98 per week) the 2 cheap hotels they quoted me were Hotel Posada San Rafael for $13-$20 U.S. for night and Hotel Posada San Pablo for 130 to 150 pesos per night. The others were 4-star, so forget that. Do you know of these or other hotels? There is no question that the homestay is cheap, but I like my privacy and don't want to be in the boonies. Even their website says the families are about 30-35 minutes away.

I have read about the esteticas and it sounds exciting, even better than the TJ scene. I have the budget for that, as small as my budget is!

Finally, I noticed on a map that IMAC is a stone's throw from Univ. of Guad. with its ridiculous 180,000 students! There has got to be some tail walking around there, right??!!

[Prokofiev]

Dylock,

I was a Spanish student @ IMAC this January for one week. I took private lessons, so it was one-on-one at an advanced level. I learned a lot, but if I had taken group lessons there would only have been 2 or 3 students in my class. During the summer there are more US and foreign Spanish students-how many I'm not sure. However IMAC is primarily an English teaching school and has over 1000 English students. Most are female (60% or more) and they range from about 13-22, with most around 16-18. At 28 I would say that the vast majority will be too young to consider, but you will still find 50 or so senoritas 18+. Also several of the instructors are women 25-32. The school is busy from 8am-8pm 6 days a week, closed Sunday.
I don't think the girls want men 20 years older, but they WILL consider older men as mates more readily than in the US. At 28, you could date from 18-30 which covers almost everyone you will meet at IMAC, except for a few senior faculty. I have heard good things about the families and housing. The only complaint was that many of the homes are a good distance from the school. Also it will be virtually impossible to bring SW's ,strippers etc. home to Mom.
I like the location of IMAC, in El Centro near much of the cities action. Two recommendations: First, attend the nightly exchange program from about 6 to 7pm, as I recall. It's the best way to meet chicas at the school. Second, a cheap and reasonable place to get laid is Valentino's, which is only 3-4 blocks from the school! Massage and FS was 350 pesos and you don't have to worry about your home family. Read more in the archives from Feb and March 2002.

[Dylock]

Hey all, I was researching IMAC to be a student of Spanish and was hoping to go down there for at least 4 weeks but hopefully as many as 12 weeks, depending on money. I consider myself an intermediate student. IMAC seemed like the best balance for location, city size, and price.

My questions:
Do you think IMAC is a decent place to learn Spanish rather than teach English? They won't dog me out for chasing tail as a student, right? Are the homestays an ok deal? I realize I can't bring pussy home to "Mom" but I don't have the budget for a hotel for an extended period. I'd rather have the privacy, but you have to make sacrifices to extend your stay.

That is really exciting to think that there are more Mexican students of English than Spanish learners there, because I had this idea that IMAC (or any other school) would be just me and a bunch of boring white princesses from the U.S. (Not racism--I am white.) I am almost 28 so I don't think the age of the girls should be a problem unless these chicks consistently want men who are 20 years older. But please correct me if I am wrong about age!

Thanks for your inputs!

[Prokofiev]

Falcon,
I would recommend that you begin learning Spanish before you go to Mexico. It is a long term process and will strongly affect how you feel about the country. Before learning any Spanish I enjoyed a trip to Mexico, but never would have considered a move there. After 5 years of study I'm just begining to get a feel for the language. It has opened a new world. It would seem that you are around 40? You will find that much younger mexican women - 10 to 15 years younger- will consider you as a mate, if you have a little class and a little money. Treat the ladies with respect and you will be seen as a great catch. - P

[Easy Rider]

Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]Gpiper!

You broke every rule in the book! Fighting with the local bouncers? Only 1 condom? Passed out drunk with a girl in your room at 6am with your wallet out? Ouch!! This time think with the BIG head, for your own sake.

Easyrider horn dog rule no. 29.....Never, ever, ever, argue with a bouncer. If they are rippin you off, politely object, go ask for the manager, but basically get the fuck out of there, and don't come back.

Never, ever, start shit in a titty joint. You might be bigger than that bouncer, but my bet is he can tear your head off faster than you can say Ahhhyy Chihuahua.

Consider yourself lucky......

[Falcon127]

montes:

You need to settle down and pace yourself. I did 20 years in the US Military and I'm still kick'n and in pretty good health due to a paced life style. This does not mean I don't like to have fun, I do. I did things I never dreamed of while in the Military. I too would love to spend some time in Guad., learn Spanish and investigate the possibilities of retiring there in the future.

What are your comments/ideas?

Falcon

[montes]

Gpiper: I've been back in the US for a few months now. Triying to re-establish my life here has been very difficult. I was gone for almost 3 years, came back broke, and also with some health issues do to poor surgery procedures in Puerto Vallarta's CMQ....and a very reckless lifestyle....the average 21-24 type of lyfestyle.....
I am trying to set up a cleaning business here in the US, but I am taking my time, no hurry. I figure my health comes first. As far as what business I want to set up in Mexico, well it can be a variety of things. I have a lot of hook-ups and know a large number of people who are business minded. Plus most of my family members are profesionals down there, Doctors, Accountants, lawyers, shit like that...basically what I want is the cash... A large sum...100G comes out to be about a Million in pesos, I can pretty much set up anything I want...a few uncles and cousins are business owners and live life 100 times better and much happier, than those who live in the US...plus they dont have to deal with the stress of every day life that builds up in the US...every week end they are able to get away.... come back on monday and the business is in tact...they pay their employees, at times double or triple the amount an average person can make in GDL...keeping them happy....

[Gpiper]

Montes,
I take it you're living in the Us now? Hope you don't mind me getting invasive, but what kind of work are you doing now and what kind of business do you plan on running eventually in Mexico?...Liked your idea of working in US and saving 100G over next few years to bring to Mexico and really enjoy the life down there. So does this mean you won't be taking any more trips to GDL or anywhere else in Mexico the next few years?..I may decide to stay in Us and do the same..make some good money the next few years and save, and during that time jet down to Mexico for some R and R ( 7-10 days each trip of strip clubs, esteticas, and outcall service!)maybe twice per year until i'm ready for a more permanent move. Besides teaching or tutoring english can be a grind in the long haul. i almost got burnt out on it after just a few months of tutoring back in '99!..Piper out.

[montes]

Gpiper: good for you that you can pass as someone whose 26 years old. Not many people have the benefit of looking young for ever. Aguas Calientes is a fairly safe city. So I am not surprised that people can walk around and feel safe. Dont get too comfortable in big cities. Guadalajara is not as safe as you may think...Mexico city is even worse. Just because you dont see, or hear about crime and corruption in a personal way does not mean it doesn't exist.. Just be careful. By the way, excellent salary your friend was making, not very common in mexico. Only a fortunate few can make a decent amount of money teaching English, specially with such small amount of hours. Other schools you can attend in GDL are Berlitz, Quick Learning, Boston Language Institute, and you will find many more in the Yellow Pages, however, I am not sure on the salary.... Women are always approachable in Mexico, as long as you are a complete gentleman, you will always have lady friends. Hopefully one day I can return to GDL and teach, I really do enjoy it. But first I need to save a large quantaty of money because I also have a business that needs to be taken care of in Mexico. I want to retire by the age of thirty. Live comfortable off my business, and teach English on the side....got six years to see what happens... good luck to all, keep in touch...

[Gpiper]

Montes,
thanks for the info! i think i'll pass on IMAC. Pay sounds lousy, as well as hours. Plus, i don't want anyone looking over my back when i'm trying to line up legal age poo-tang!..Anyway, if you hear of any other schools hiring anywhere in Mexico, let me know. By ther way, i had a friend who taught ESL in 99 at a school in AGS. It was grades k-8. He was at the school 5.5 hrs. a day, and only had to teach 4hrs. for a total of 20hrs., mon.-fri. He made 6500 pesos a month and made $5Us pr. hr. after school, tutoring 2 hrs. at the kids homes. He had no college dgree or tefl cert. He said they (the school), were real nice to him at first also. But the lady principal turned out to be a 2 faced ***** and screwed him over 3 months later; among other things, they wouldn't fix his apt. problems they had promised to take care of. He split soon after...As far as meeting women if i teach down in mexico, I don't anticipate many problems. Though i'm caucasian and a little older , my spanish is descent, and many girls there have said i look puerto rican, and can pass for 26...anyway, are you thinking of teacing in Mexico again??..As far as your earlier caption about safety in GDL. I was surprised to hear that. I was only there 1 nite in '99, but can honestly say that during my few months in AGS., i never felt more safe. It was common to see young school-girls walking home or to a friends home in town alone at nite by themselves at 1am, with no fear in the world. Me not being shy, I actually met a few this way! They were approachable at all times.