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  1. #11016

    Excellent series of reports on Dubai. Thanks

    A very good series of reports from Mike De H and other contributors on the state and movement of mongering in sandy Dubai. Differences of experiences and opinions will always be of interest and value, particular from several long time mongerers in a locale. Time moves on and so does the girls and the ethos of a place. Hopefully, mongers also move on to different experiences otherwise life would be dull.

    It does appear that Dubai has seen shifts in providers and attitudes since the wilder days of those intrepid Explorers such as to name a few Piper1, MyKapitan, JustsumFun etc. Etc. Apoligies to other stalwarts not named but whose reports have been enjoyed.

    Might be planning a first visit to Dubai myself this year, but am fully conscious that times past may not be times present. As any monger, optimism is a primary requisite for the hobby. Surprises as well as Happy Endings do happen.

    Thanks again Gentlemen for a good, open and honest exchange on Dubai.

    Excess.

  2. #11015
    Quote Originally Posted by IAintSpecial  [View Original Post]
    They actually believe that they have the market of customers for the girls and the girls should pay for the privilege.
    Yes, you reminded me. I forgot to mention is that Girl prices have remained steady. Perhaps there are fewer lookers that will go for 500 but hey, I can't blame them.

    When Dubai has priced itself out of the Market as a tourist destination Worldwide, when Hotel prices are crazy, Bar prices crazy, yet the Girls are forced to stay at 500 to 1500 average price otherwise nobody can afford them, then of course their numbers and quality will inevitably decline.

    At the end of the day, they are truly affected by market forces and they are luxury items that can be dispensed with on a trip if needs be. Almost everything else in Dubai is competition restricted and operates like a monopoly or cartel. Hence they can keep squeezing the price up.

  3. #11014
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    You can find some good priced hotels on some sites. I recently got Seaview Hotel for next month for 52 us per night. That's like 1274 aed a week, $350 us per week. That's a little different.
    I have certain restricitons like Wifi needs to be really good in the room. Also, you won't get Seaview for that amount this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    Um! . What can I say there? That's certainly not my experience. I sense that every so often European visitors enjoy a spot of criticism of Dubai. Maybe it's a reflection of mood. I've been guilty of that before (Though I'm not from Europe – Yay!)
    Bear in mind I am comparing Dubai now with how good it used to be. If you are a resident, you don't notice the changes as readily. Like looking at yourself on the mirror, you don't notice that you age, but a friend who has not seen you for a while will notice.[/quote]
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    Nope! With the 60 Euro entry fee, Fkk is more like 160 Euro for your first shot and your lucky if its even 30 minutes. All the girls ask for an extra 50 Euro for anything at fkk Palace. They even ask an extra 50 euros for a GF experience. And I always hated standing around like a polar bear in a dressing gown. If your going to Germany go the RLD in Frankfurt, that's the business and a real adventure. 20 to 30 Euros a shot. I found some wonderful girls there. So much so I'm going back again soon ).
    Nope, disagree with you here. Palace can be a rip-off, true, and I never go there. Go to Oase or World. Go anywhere else and its 50 Euros entrance. You should NEVER be short shanged on time. If you are, go straight to reception. Even when you "finish" you can stay with the girl until half an hour is up if you want. GFE is not extra. Only at Palace do they try that. If they do then tell them to stuff it. Bear also in mind its a spa / sauna facility and you can stay all day and all food and drink (including beer in some places) is included.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    What I like about Dubai is that you can have LT in your own hotel. Sometimes I've had girls stay for breakfast and longer. One time last year I found a leggy blond Russian in Paranormal at 8 pm and she stayed till 8 am.
    Yes, this is good, if you only want one Girl and sex once or twice. I am glad LT still exists as a concept. I did get it last year with a leggy blonde Russian but she turned wierd on the second night. Russians can be a bit mad sometimes, if you ask me.

    However, on a one week trip I will not have the local knowlege to root out the bargains, even with six years of Dubai-visiting experience behind me. Thats what I mean by a "mongering destination". If I lived there I would have lots of numbers on my phone as back-ups on bad nights, and other such devices to ensure satisfaction.

  4. #11013
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    Failing to get any chatting response from girls entering or leaving the place (Rattlesnakes), I paid my 100 DHS to enter. I found everywhere now in Dubai a growing '100 DHS' culture. Taxi? 100 DHS. Entrance 100 DHS. Dinner. 100 DHS, Breathe air sir? 100 DHS. Even the beer at the bar in the Snake is getting close to $10 for a simple small bottle of Heineken. Outrageous, greedy and stupid
    Sorry to hear about your poor 3 days in Dubai. My experience is a little different. I've had some good luck talking to the girls in the garden area of rattlesnakes. Sometimes I never actually entered the club. Isn't the entry with a free drink? I've always found Taxis well priced in Dubai. From 10 to 30 dhs. My best clubs would have to be Regal, Paranormal (for fun) and rattlesnakes in that order. I like the Arab, Stani girls in Regal and the party atmosphere there. I always seem able to find 2 or 3 I like and then I have to make a choice. When I go to rattlesnakes I walk around twice and scan and find what I like. Its fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    (Rattlesnakes) one absolute stunner came in and made the night. The orange-clad Karina from Moldova with the uber-pretty face and the professional but nice smiling demeanour lighting up the place. It was like bees round the honey-pot. I got my interview with her but somehow never asked the price. My night was done and I had decided to go home alone
    Well there you go? There she was!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    I didn't think it that bad, but with Dubai being so busy I was lucky to get this place at close to $1600 USD for the week! Dubai is pricing itself out of the Market in all areas if you ask me
    You can find some good priced hotels on some sites. I recently got Seaview Hotel for next month for 52 us per night. That's like 1274 aed a week, $350 us per week. That's a little different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    The beautiful girls in Dubai have gone … Dubai as a mongering destination is now a joke…
    Um! . What can I say there? That's certainly not my experience. I sense that every so often European visitors enjoy a spot of criticism of Dubai. Maybe it's a reflection of mood. I've been guilty of that before (Though I'm not from Europe – Yay!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    In Germany, the FKK scene has blossomed, with the best lookers you can imagine all lined up naked at 50 Euros a shot, controlled with typical Tutonic efficiency. I think that will now be my mongering sestination of the future
    Nope! With the 60 Euro entry fee, Fkk is more like 160 Euro for your first shot and your lucky if its even 30 minutes. All the girls ask for an extra 50 Euro for anything at fkk Palace. They even ask an extra 50 euros for a GF experience. And I always hated standing around like a polar bear in a dressing gown. If your going to Germany go the RLD in Frankfurt, that's the business and a real adventure. 20 to 30 Euros a shot. I found some wonderful girls there. So much so I'm going back again soon ).

    What I like about Dubai is that you can have LT in your own hotel. Sometimes I've had girls stay for breakfast and longer. One time last year I found a leggy blond Russian in Paranormal at 8 pm and she stayed till 8 am. I quite agree with you about the Hyatt Regency, there club Premiere is hopeless, I've been now about 6 times and never found anything I liked, and I can't stand the body search upon entry. Everyone just stands around like a nerd. That place is a rip off.

    Anyone want to catch up in Feb, I'll be positively holding up the bar and reliving old ghosts at Hotel Paranormal. No violins please. Cheers Nickc

  5. #11012
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    There was a time when Dubai was full of desperate, easy to fall in love with, blonde Russian Stunners, working in Cyclone, working in the shopping malls. Sometimes a bit crazy, often a complete wate of time, but almost always good service, staying LT (what validity does that term have these days) and not touching the money till the morning. <br

    Somehow, they have all gone now. Just Stanis and Flippers. The beautiful girls in Dubai have gone, from the shops, the Metro, the Hotels and the Bars. I Germany, the FKK scene has blossomed, with the best lookers you can imagine all lined up naked at 50 Euros a shot, controlled with typical Tutonic efficiency. I think that will now be my mongering sestination of the future. <br

    I still like Dubai. I will still occasionally visit these old mongering joints in hope of a good experience. However Dubai as a mongering destination is now a joke. And I suspect that's what the authorities wanted all along. The sub 1000 DHS lookers are a thing of yester year.
    Dubai is becoming more and more the place where you can still have wonderful P4P experiences from girlfriend to porno, but how to reach the goal (girls) is way harder than in the good old times.

    Today, like Mike described, Dubai has become a hell of expensive place: shopping malls (brand stores) are much more expensive than in Europe, food&beverage is more or less the same prive level than in Europe and entry fee to hotel bars (!) is absolutely cheeky (especially when there's no drinks included).

    There's more or less the same price level than in Europe, but the salaries for "normal" jobs, like sales stuff in malls are way less than in Europe.

    That's in my opinion the reason, why so many stunners from CIS etc. Have left Dubai and continued to other mongering destinations where they can make more money.

    Thailand is today full of russians (!). For me that's like bringing sand to the beach.

    Nowadays, it is more than important to create up a network out of reliable persons to share contacts of good performers.

    The platform to do so is here the ISG (e. G. Analyn-thread)

    Unfortunately, my Dubai activities have gone down and I don't come so often any more, but when my boss decides to reactivate the business here, I'm the last no deny.

    Guys, keep the Dubai scene alive and keep on posting.

    Hope to meet up with the one or the other and wish you all best of luck in hunting.

    Cheers.

    Jimmy

  6. #11011
    Quote Originally Posted by P Man  [View Original Post]
    Well guys Lucys AMP is back near al wasl road very close to the old place

    About 7 girls last night a good selection and as always if you treat them well great service.

    120AED entry fee and 200aed for 2 shots I always pay 250 and that seams to keep my service levels quite high.

    You guys know of any CIS MPs.

    Pman.
    Congratulations on keeping the fee down to dh250. You can often waste 10 minutes of your session negotiating down from the girl's initial proposition of dh500 or so.

    Wry note: the Shooter remembers the time when he could issue forth twice in 60 minutes, but it was not this century!

  7. #11010
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike De H  [View Original Post]
    Somehow, they have all gone now. Just Stanis and Flippers. The beautiful girls in Dubai have gone, from the shops, the Metro, the Hotels and the Bars. I Germany, the FKK scene has blossomed, with the best lookers you can imagine all lined up naked at 50 Euros a shot, controlled with typical Tutonic efficiency. I think that will now be my mongering sestination of the future. <br

    I still like Dubai. I will still occasionally visit these old mongering joints in hope of a good experience. However Dubai as a mongering destination is now a joke. And I suspect that's what the authorities wanted all along. The sub 1000 DHS lookers are a thing of yester year.
    Mike I agree with your observations and I am sure most mongers living here will be in complete agreement with you. I actually passed comment about the "100dhs with no drink" policy being forced in most places over a year back and stated then that it was the beginning of the end of the good mongering days. These places are also ripping off the girls charging them admission prices that are unsustainable every night. The people running these places seem to think that beautiful women are happy to let the bar take all the profit and that any girl should be happy to be left in. They actually believe that they have the market of customers for the girls and the girls should pay for the privilege. Unfortunately some of the venues mentioned, are the only source consistent of revenue for the hotels they are attached to, hence the "where can we squeeze the last few dhs from" attitude. In the news you will see hotels boasting high occupancy in Dubai but it should be noted that if the price is not high enough per room per night the hotel doesn't make money. And yes prices are way down on years gone by with the cost of everything gone up. Management in these properties have most likely never been faced with having to run a hotel efficiently before due to the previous boom times in Dubai and are now making silly mistakes.

    FYI if you went to premier club in hyatt you would have been hit with a 150AED entry fee with no drink. You would be looking at 350dhs just to visit the place if you are coming from marina side on any given night.

    The bars no longer represent value for money for girls or punters. Yet they keep on finding new ways to tax and [CodeWord140] off customers before they even enter the premises. I can see their flawed logic though.

    100dhs Entry fee = pure profit + They know we will buy a drink at the bar which is even more expensive than a regular place (which to be fair is expected in a pick up joint).

    To make 100dhs profit behind the bar would require a customer to purchase minimum 3-4 drinks. And today people are budget orientated more than ever. But instead of working to reward customers and trying to keep them the opposite is taking place. I predict that as long as places continue to operate in the above manner things will get worse before they get better.

    Thank god for AMPs

  8. #11009
    Quote Originally Posted by MKH  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I called Lucy's place mobile number and surprisely I was answered by same guy. He texted me the new location in Jumeriah and I was requested not to introduce new friends unless I know them personally and he prefers if I can bring them personally. For the first time, he mentioned that the quality of the girl is the best. I can find some fresh skin.

    Has anyone got any latest experience there. How are the new girls? Thinking of passby during the weekend. Any update on that will be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    MKH
    Here is a recent post:

    Lucys AMP is back the old number is working.

    Well guys Lucys AMP is back near al wasl road very close to the old place.

    About 7 girls last night a good selection and as always if you treat them well great service.

    120AED entry fee and 200aed for 2 shots I always pay 250 and that seams to keep my service levels quite high.

  9. #11008

    2006 – 2010 – 1012 Comparisons and tales of hilarious mongering disaster.

    i suppose when you are inside big ben you don't know what time it is. so after my little visit back to what was my favourite city in the world i was able to see the changes to the city from the perspective of an outsider. but in my case i see the changes as sudden leaps, rather than what i suspect to be the slow evolutional increments that you hardly notice when dubai is your day to day existence.<br>

    my first chance to monger was when last thursday night i finally got a chance to pop into the rattlesnake after 17 months absence. somehow the place seems even harder to find when you are driving, since missing the exit off the north bound carriageway condemns you to kilometres of szr or the dread sandy roundabout-land of desolate, dark roads around the building site that adorns tom cruise's favourite building.<br>

    the place seems to have had the exit to the road blocked off with the entrance discretely walled off from the nicey-wicey, moneyed diners in the metropolitan garden complex. my first impression is that this ghettoising of girls has its effect all over dubai. the working girl is more of an oddity on the streets, more discrete, but generally she is a harder creature, more scared, more devoid of humour and less willing to take risks.<br>

    failing to get any chatting response from girls entering or leaving the place, i paid my 100 dhs to enter. i found everywhere now in dubai a growing '100 dhs' culture. taxi? 100 dhs. entrance 100 dhs. dinner. 100 dhs, breathe air sir? 100 dhs. even the beer at the bar in the snake is getting close to $10 for a simple small bottle of heineken. outrageous, greedy and stupid. at leat the jebel ali club for ex-pats still has reasonable prices for a pint of guinness and a steak, but that's not a mongering story i am afraid.<br>

    the first thing i noticed is that the absence of chinese hookers was not simply on the streets, but in the bars too. maybe its because of chinese new year, but barely a cis to be seen anywhere, but plenty of the stanis. those hard faced mongolian kyrgis and khazaks scare me. the way they instantly turn to ice when they know a sale is unlikely or my price is too low, and their gaze makes you transparent makes me feel somehow insignificant. less than human. i wonder if it's really a reflection of how life has treated them, rather than the other way around.<br>

    there were two caucasians near the dance floor, but i dod not dare ask the price. they were the sort that laughed behind the backs of the punters when they turned down their evidently derisory offers. i have to say, where were the stunners? whereas in the past there were always about ten per cent that i would class as good looking, there was nothing here? not one girl worth a look on a thursday? then one absolute stunner came in and made the night. the orange-clad karina from moldova with the uber-pretty face and the professional but nice smiling demeanour lighting up the place. it was like bees round the honey-pot. i got my interview with her but somehow never asked the price. my night was done and i had decided to go home alone. my appetite for some company had long since disappeared and i decided to save my money. somehow i saw a 1500 dhs price tag, but did not verify it.<br>

    this friday took me to sas radisson and kubu. entrance 100 dhs and i simply turned around in disgust. i spent the night in marbles talking to the hard faced kyrgies in there, but at least i got 100dhs worth of drinks and again went home-alone and saved money. by this time i was realizing that dubai mongering was dying for me.<br>

    come saturday i was determined to do something, so i went to the old favourites, having decided that the hyatt regency (panoramic was it called?) disco would likely be out of my price league, and pooped off to york. i was delighted that this was once place at least i still did not have to pay. slip past the queue, slip the bouncer a ten dhs on the way out still works.<br>

    one pleasant surprise in york was, no chinese. at all, really. they were always too aggressive, following you around like puppy dogs, even after you said no, fifteen times. the africans were al ittle pushy but not too bad. now york was never my favourite place and i very rarely saw a girl i could go with, but always good for a warm-up. i met one girl from eritrea called 'heaven' and put her in the mental notebook for later and popped over to the regal.<br>

    had to pay the 5 in the regal as i forgot exactly my own get-in-free method, but saw no reason why it would not still work if i could remember what size coin to use to forge the pass stamp. when i walked in at midnight, i was shocked. barely a western russian to be seen except the odd old heifer. all kyrgies and khazaks. no flippers no cis (never were many though) no anybody really, the place half empty. never have i seen regal not to have a single cutie in there, when i think of some of the great lasses from the past, from uzbekistan, dagistan, russia. thjis was bad news indeed. when things did not not warm up i popped back to york and took heaven home, just for the sake of doing something whilst in dubai.<br>

    now, i don't mind africans as long as they are quite open, really honest, and very cheerful. heaven fitted the bill. this petite, cute faced, smiley girl with the part thai ancestry, was quite open about the fact that her service was honestly fairly shit, and she was very cheerful about it. so with that in mind i took her home for some exercise.<br>

    i can report the al bustan rotana is still gf. although the first thing heaven said when she got to my room was 'this shit hotel'. i didn't think it that bad, but with dubai being so busy i was lucky to get this place at close to $1600 usd for the week! dubai is pricing itself out of the market in all areas if you ask me.<br>

    anyway, she quickly stripped off only for me to discover a grossly distorted, troll like little body underneath some cleverly supportive tight fitting jeans. she got on top of me and got herself naturally lubed up by giving herself a barebacked dicky-back ride (not inside of course) whilst asking 'so how many sons do you have?). if the whole scenario was not so surreally humorous i could have been offended, but it is certainly a 'deflationary' experience. the real erection-killer for me was the dreadful tuna-stink of her natural juices as she got excited and slimed me. the rotten-fish smell of bacterial vaginosis affects many girls who can't get access to simple medical care, and whereas harmless to men, it really puts me off. this was no exception. so i made some excuse, and determined to make a success of it i went and popped my fast acting bad-girl-scenario rescue pills. i cam back and made small talk with 'heaven' that went like this. 'what's your real name' i say. 'heaven, but its really in my language ' geanette' which translates to heaven'. oh i say, i think 'jeanette' is probably closer. heaven is not really a name in english. 'no' she says. i like heaven. so after a while of this i eventually think naughty thoughts and she is there like magic with the condom. lets be quick, she says. i need to get back to my boyfriend. (spelled p-i-m-p i suspect). but i soldier on. after a few positions i get onto the missionary, finish position, and looking forward to getting her the hell out of my room, she puts her feet behind her head, making the perfect imitation of a small round, brown tub of jelly-like lard. sex was over for me, i wanted her gone.<br>

    not to be deterred though. she said, 'you want to make me happy? ' as she placed my left hand between her legs. i was worried about how i would ever get the stink off my hands, but i went for it anyway, ever the gentleman that i am. what followed was the best acted, false-orgasm scene since 'when harry met sally' and when she got to the finish, she went curiously rigid with a huge 'cat that got the cream' expression on her face. she went catatonic and rigid and would not talk for at least a minute. finally, fearing she had had a stroke or something she started talking again. she started at me and proceeded top rescue the whole situation by reciprocating with a manual happy finish for me. cheerful to the end, i could not hate her, at least i got my laughs in at the experience. i gave her the required 600, plus 20 for the taxi and she left. happy as larry.<br>

    there was a time when dubai was full of desperate, easy to fall in love with, blonde russian stunners, working in cyclone, working in the shopping malls. sometimes a bit crazy, often a complete wate of time, but almost always good service, staying lt (what validity does that term have these days) and not touching the money till the morning.<br>

    somehow, they have all gone now. just stanis and flippers. the beautiful girls in dubai have gone, from the shops, the metro, the hotels and the bars. i germany, the fkk scene has blossomed, with the best lookers you can imagine all lined up naked at 50 euros a shot, controlled with typical tutonic efficiency. i think that will now be my mongering sestination of the future.<br>

    i still like dubai. i will still occasionally visit these old mongering joints in hope of a good experience. however dubai as a mongering destination is now a joke. and i suspect that's what the authorities wanted all along. the sub 1000 dhs lookers are a thing of yester year.

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  11. #11006
    Quote Originally Posted by MKH  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I called Lucy's place mobile number and surprisely I was answered by same guy. He texted me the new location in Jumeriah and I was requested not to introduce new friends unless I know them personally and he prefers if I can bring them personally. For the first time, he mentioned that the quality of the girl is the best. I can find some fresh skin.

    Has anyone got any latest experience there. How are the new girls? Thinking of passby during the weekend. Any update on that will be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    MKH
    That sounds great that this place is up again, always had a good time there. I still have the number stored away safely, but I never ventured back after before last Ramadan, I felt I got chased down by a police car patrolling the road.

    BTW: it's Chinese New Year right now, typically, the girls are off, but maybe by the weekend they are back on duty.

  12. #11005

    Lucy Place re open

    Hi All,

    I called Lucy's place mobile number and surprisely I was answered by same guy. He texted me the new location in Jumeriah and I was requested not to introduce new friends unless I know them personally and he prefers if I can bring them personally. For the first time, he mentioned that the quality of the girl is the best. I can find some fresh skin.

    Has anyone got any latest experience there. How are the new girls? Thinking of passby during the weekend. Any update on that will be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    MKH

  13. #11004
    Quote Originally Posted by CodeHunter  [View Original Post]
    Give the tel number of girls do 500AED. In pm. Thank you!
    Hello, Hello,

    Ring Jockeys bar in Hotel Paranormal and ask to speak to any of the girls on the right hand side of the bar.

    Cheers Nickc

  14. #11003
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick9525  [View Original Post]
    Nice report. Remember I have seen this pinoy girl at the same club. So what was the deal? Any hint about the rates will be appreciated.
    Hi mate,

    Here is my take on it and it's my personal thing. I know some people think that people like me ruin prices but I honestly think this is bollox.

    I don't ever give money to charities as a big chunk will just be used by some scumbags, so I rather donate directly, if you know what I mean.

    I think, some guys hunt for the cheapest price, but that's not my game. I also believe that it's not the case that every girl has a fixed price. They are very smart and will tax you in no time, depending on your race, country of origin, clothes, the hotel you stay in etc. Obviously, if they have a choice they will go with the high-roller, but most will take a smaller offer if it is the only choice rather than leaving alone. I believe some have gone down to as low as 400 for all night. I never offer less than 600, which I think is a minimum fair price. If I fancy someone, then she's usually worth that at least.

    In this particular case, I did propose a premium over that and as I usually pay in the morning, it happens that I top this up a bit more if I was really satisfied.

    So I hope I have given you enough hints, but it's really an individual thing between you and the girl.

  15. #11002

    New MP

    Noticed this new MP in Al Barsha near MOE. Name and number intentionally left out. Offering PRC / Thai / Pinay 180 / hr. My quest for trying out MPs is always alive so ventured in for a try out. Requested pinay. A cute girl I'd say a 6. 5. With a few tagalog words thrown in I realized a HE was certainly on the cards. What followed certainly surprised me. After a good massage to the back turned around and was offered a soft touch which I readily accepted. As the hands progressed downwards the chit chat never ceased and she asked if I wanted anymore down there. Then asked for a tip. I usually don't like it when they ask how much I would tip? She offered a HJ for 100 and then surprised me by offering a BBBJ for 200. Who was I to refuse. Under the circumstances with only a curtain separating us from the corridor it was a bit hurried nevertheless very pleasant. Managed to get access to top assets but the uniform is a pain to get through. Managed to get some light DFK. A few more visits will certainly pave the way for take out.

    For those AD members reading this sorry about the lack of activity in your neck of the woods. What can I say, its about an hours drive to work if you live here.

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