Jakarta

[Member #4410]

In a perfect world, people like this would have actually friends, and hence would not feel compelled to clutter up forums with their opinions and non-information. But, it's a big tent here, so what can you do.

Nothing, but it has become quiet lately <grin

[Tommy Suharto]

Where is the Golden Crown?

Hi, yes in Glodok plaza, very easy to find. I have not been there for a long time, but it is one of the older nightclubs in the kota. About 10 years and a little bit more seedy than Stadium. It seems to be popular now- at least going by what I read on jakarta 100 bars. It rates it quite high and marks it as "one of the safe places to go, if you don't know the city". Well, as you may read in the comment section of the blog, below, about it's security and safety, I much doubt all will agree with that.

http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2009/0...dok-plaza.html

A criminal heading security, nice.

If you don't mind the E crap and deafening techno, there are actually very nice girls there, at least there used to be.

Btw, very sorry to read about your bad experience Guy Wiff Attitude, it's ugly what some people do, hope you'll be ok, cheers.

[Haggis Man]

Where is the Golden Crown?

Glodok in the mall where they sell thousands of copies of dvds and cds.

Full address is Glodok Plaza Lt. 3-9 Jl. Pinangsia Raya No. 1 Jakarta 11180

[Dorman]

Where is the Golden Crown?

[Smoothy]

Hi, yes I did some online research on scopolamine and it it is indeed a 'truth serum' that wud explain how my safe was mysteriously able to be opened and my ATM card stolen.

I think I've used one of my 9 lives. Damn lucky to get out of that incident with all my vital organs intact.

I think I will leave jakarta alone until I'm a more experienced monger. My many trips to PI haven't hardened my up for the challenges of Jakarta.

I find Golden Crown a strange choice for a newbie to Jakarta. How the heck did you end up choosing that place as one of the spots to hit on your first visit to Jakarta? Any place where an ecstacy high is the main attraction for people attending is going to have thieves and scammers. I've had guys try to pick my pockets in there hoping that I was high. But I've never done X in there nor had anything to drink there other than bottled water. For a first visit to Jakarta, I would think Golden Crown is a little over the top. That's the kind of place I wouldn't recommend unless you went with a friend who spoke Bahasa Indonesia.

Your story is indeed a good reminder to not ever allow a stranger to buy you a drink. That's the 3rd time I've heard of such a story in Jakarta, and I'm sure it happens much more often than that. Glad you came out ok.

[Guy Wif Attitude]

Hi, yes I did some online research on scopolamine and it it is indeed a 'truth serum' that wud explain how my safe was mysteriously able to be opened and my ATM card stolen.

I think I've used one of my 9 lives. Damn lucky to get out of that incident with all my vital organs intact.

I think I will leave jakarta alone until I'm a more experienced monger. My many trips to PI haven't hardened my up for the challenges of Jakarta.

[AussieDoug]

Went to Jakarta for the weekend and this was my experience at Golden Crown.

Arrived, payed the 35k cover charge and proceeded inside to the main disco where the music was techno / doof doof or whatever they call it these days. And close to the stairs a foreigner approached me and said he was glad to see another foreigner to talk to.

He said he was from Dubai on holiday, and was planning to go to Bangkok the next day. He was of arab descent, well built (obviously a gym buff). Said he ran his own business in Dubai. Nothing to be suspicious of at that point. He asked me where I was staying. I told him the name of the hotel. Hotel Peninsula, jalan manga bassar (next door to Oasis spa)

Went upstairs with him. 'I invited you so I want to buy you a beer'. Can't remember if the beer was opened when it arrived, or if he gave it to me. I don't remember feeling quesy, or dizzy or being hit on the head, or anything. JUST NOTHING AFTER THAT POINT.

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

From my pocket my wallet was missing with 1. 5m taken out. 600k was left an my smart phone was stolen.

I.

Not want to rub your nose in it, but if you ever went to Dubai you would know most of the real work is done there by filipinos, the arabs and blacks do nothing, unless they are wearing a bed sheet and working for the government. You were very lucky, I never make friends at all for that reason, touch wood.

[Travelin Dog]

As far as I know, only Malioboro and Alexis enforce the regular checking rule. It's hard getting even a BBBJ from the girls there, let alone bareback.

Classic stopped their 8-hour promotion thing as of late. I went there last night.

Very sorry to hear this news Egy.

I was planned on getting all rested up and giving it a shot on Saturday night.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Travelin Dog]

An article in the Jakarta Post this morning:

"We've blocked 1m porn sites, govt claims"

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...vt-claims.html

Wonder if they'll try to block ISG? I know that there are work-arounds, but anyone had any difficulties accessing the site from within Indonesia?

Hello Gents.

I have been living in Indonesia (and using another forum) for over 3 years, and have never had a problem accessing the site.

I have noticed that xtube and redtube have been blocked, but surprisingly few other sites seem to be blocked.

Happy surfing.

[Menteng]

Went to Jakarta for the weekend and this was my experience at Golden Crown.

Arrived, payed the 35k cover charge and proceeded inside to the main disco where the music was techno / doof doof or whatever they call it these days. The hookers mainly hang out close to the entrance, and also against the walls mainly on the left hand side. All the tables were full, only saw 1 bule there inside, rest were locals. Bought 2 beers and talked to a hooker who immediately started the requests for ecstasy. A lot of partygoers in indonesia partake in E, characterised by their swaying heads side to side, and backwards and forwards in an exagerated manner. Bought the girl a beer and packet of ciggies. Waiter brought the drinks and a glass of ice. As the waiter brought the drink, I didn't notice anything amiss. Can't remember if the can was opened when it arrived. She typed in 300k on her phone and showed it to me. I said I was only their to drink. Anyway, scoped out the place for another hour. Thats a long time so if my drink was spiked I dunno if the effects take that long to take effect. I got a bit bored and decided to walk into the lobby and close to the stairs a foreigner approached me and said he was glad to see another foreigner to talk to.

He said he was from Dubai on holiday, and was planning to go to Bangkok the next day. He was of arab descent, well built (obviously a gym buff). Said he ran his own business in Dubai. Nothing to be suspicious of at that point. He asked me where I was staying. I told him the name of the hotel. Hotel Peninsula, jalan manga bassar (next door to Oasis spa)

Went upstairs with him. This was another large floor with a podium with girls dancing (clothed). He insisted on buying me a beer, and when I said no, its ok I will pay, he said 'I invited you so I want to buy you a beer'. Can't remember if the beer was opened when it arrived, or if he gave it to me. Approached a few more girls, they werent that interested to talk but anyway we had conversations, so wasnt really that bothered. At this point around 20 mins had passed. We then went back down again and started dancing on the floor, I had just finished the beer and offered to buy him a drink. Went to find a waiter (as thats the only way you can buy a drink).

While I was standing against the wall waiting for a waiter. THAT WAS THE LAST I REMEMBERED. This was approximately 30 mins after he bought me the drink. It must have been around 2-30am.

I don't remember feeling quesy, or dizzy or being hit on the head, or anything. JUST NOTHING AFTER THAT POINT.

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

From my pocket my wallet was missing with 1. 5m taken out. 600k was left an my smart phone was stolen.

I had left my oakleys on the desk in the room (but my ATM card I'm sure I locked in the safe). Both of these were stolen as well.

I had 2. 5hrs till my flight so I thought fuck it, need to get to the airport. So I asked the person at the desk if they noticed me come in. The girl said yes, you came in with a foreigner we thought it was your friend. I asked to see their CCTV but they said the manager was not in so not possible at the time. I thought fuck it, I need to catch my flight so I gave up and left.

Anyway, that was my jakarta experience.

Side note. Hotel Travel had some nice looking girls at 300k a pop. Seemed like a factory though so I didn't partake as I had a massage and HJ at Oasis by a pretty young girl. Great body but no english and was more interested in watching cartoons on the TV in the room. Hmm.

Reminds of my report of years ago. An American guy felt victim to an odd couple: an Italian guy and a Thai gal who used scopolamine. He met them in one of the posh clubs and invited them to his room for a glass of wine. They drugged him in there. He was unconscious for 17 hours. At least he and you recovered. I live in Colombia where the use of scopolamine (=burundanga) led to many fatal outcomes.

[Asian Rain]

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

Good cautionary tale. Consider yourself lucky as you DID wake up the next morning. In some countries, your unconscious body would have been brought to some back alley lab, slit open and your organs would have been harvested for the transplant market. When you think of it that way, the loss of a smart phone and some short time money doesn't seem so bad.

I have only experienced Golden Crown with my girlfriend once. She was pissed at me and did ecstasy without my knowledge, but I figured out what was happening when she tranced out. I beat it out of there very quick with her and ended up back at the hotel listening to her teeth chattering the whole night. She thankfully sobered up by morning, but couldn't suck cock for the next 2 days because the E had burned her tongue.

People who go to Crown are either consuming or selling. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain

[Globotto]

Went to Jakarta for the weekend and this was my experience at Golden Crown.

I got a bit bored and decided to walk into the lobby and close to the stairs a foreigner approached me and said he was glad to see another foreigner to talk to.

He said he was from Dubai on holiday, and was planning to go to Bangkok the next day. He was of arab descent, well built (obviously a gym buff). Said he ran his own business in Dubai. Nothing to be suspicious of at that point. He asked me where I was staying. I told him the name of the hotel. Hotel Peninsula, jalan manga bassar (next door to Oasis spa)

Went upstairs with him. This was another large floor with a podium with girls dancing (clothed). He insisted on buying me a beer, and when I said no, its ok I will pay, he said 'I invited you so I want to buy you a beer'. Can't remember if the beer was opened when it arrived, or if he gave it to me. Approached a few more girls, they werent that interested to talk but anyway we had conversations, so wasnt really that bothered. At this point around 20 mins had passed. We then went back down again and started dancing on the floor, I had just finished the beer and offered to buy him a drink. Went to find a waiter (as thats the only way you can buy a drink).

While I was standing against the wall waiting for a waiter. THAT WAS THE LAST I REMEMBERED. This was approximately 30 mins after he bought me the drink. It must have been around 2-30am.

I don't remember feeling quesy, or dizzy or being hit on the head, or anything. JUST NOTHING AFTER THAT POINT.

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

From my pocket my wallet was missing with 1. 5m taken out. 600k was left an my smart phone was stolen.

I had left my oakleys on the desk in the room (but my ATM card I'm sure I locked in the safe). Both of these were stolen as well.

Seems pretty obvious to me that the Arab guy did the drugging. These stories are common all over SE Asia. I have heard the same story in Thailand & Macau. In Macau I had a couple guy come up to me all extra friendly and acting like they were having so much fun and one guy tried to pass me his beer when mine was finished. His trick was that he was not drinking it. He would only put it up to his mouth to pretend that he was. I like to keep my awareness up on things and I noticed the weight of the aluminum can to be lighter than apparently full like he made it look.

I think basically they need enough time to get the power in the drink and dissolve it. So the usually prepare it beforehand. Bottom line is especially when you are traveling alone DO NOT take any drink from a stranger. One better keep you drink with you at all times aswell. The thing these criminals do is when the effect starts to knock you out they act like your friend to everybody around and make it look like they are helping thier drunken mate. They often like to steal passports aswell.

[Dorman]

Nasty story Guy but as has been said, you got off lucky. Any info on where Golden Crown is?

As to your TV watching Oasis experience, you must have had exactly the same girl I had. Oasis (in Mangga Besar) has been refurbished and it's looking quite well, they now have a good "40% discount" deal which gets you a boby-body massage, full service, followed by a regular massage, purportedly lasting two and a half hours, for a mere Rp 395, 000.

It's certainly a good deal but be sure and keep control over it or you might feel somewhat underwhelmed by the experience. I chose a good looking twenty year old, with a pleasant face and a good body (feeling up her tits however I knew she had a kid, which she confirmed) for the body-to-body. The soapy was perfunctory enough (and with rather cold water) and when she felt she'd got me suitably aroused whipped on the condom and started grinding, no preliminary BJ. The session lasted, all told about thirty five minutes, I showered unassisted. After drying off I asked her about the regular massage and she admitted she didn't know but that she'd go and pick a girl and bring her to me, fine I didn't feel like getting dressed and going back to the bar area.

Five minutes later she brought a nice enough, nineteen year old back, decent figure and a nice smile, a student at a local college. Unfortunately it turns out massages happen in the third floor so I did have to get dressed and go down anyway. The massage rooms are decently made out and large enough. You lie on the mat with a hole for your head to look through (and see the blobs of chewing gum, cigarette ash and gobs of previous less fastidious customers). The massage was good enough, she walked on my back and she was just the right weight to make it very enjoyable. However after about forty-five minutes, without any massaging of the important bits she stops and says with a smile,"anything else?". Well I'd already shot a load and as she had made no effort to persuade me I decided to skip the extra rub. I got up to dress, noting there was nowhere for me to shower all the gunge off and went out to pay.

All in it was exactly Rp 395, 000 like they said, no tax or service charge, so it was very reasonably priced but somewhat unfulfilling (and shorter than promised). So by all means check it out but when doing so be more assertive about getting your money's worth than I was, I was simply killing time before getting down to the main business of the afternoon.

[Hbengkok]

Went to Jakarta for the weekend and this was my experience at Golden Crown.

He said he was from Dubai on holiday, and was planning to go to Bangkok the next day. He was of arab descent, well built (obviously a gym buff). Said he ran his own business in Dubai. Nothing to be suspicious of at that point. He asked me where I was staying. I told him the name of the hotel. Hotel Peninsula, jalan manga bassar (next door to Oasis spa)

Went upstairs with him. This was another large floor with a podium with girls dancing (clothed). He insisted on buying me a beer, and when I said no, its ok I will pay, he said 'I invited you so I want to buy you a beer'. Can't remember if the beer was opened when it arrived, or if he gave it to me. Approached a few more girls, they werent that interested to talk but anyway we had conversations, so wasnt really that bothered. At this point around 20 mins had passed. We then went back down again and started dancing on the floor, I had just finished the beer and offered to buy him a drink. Went to find a waiter (as thats the only way you can buy a drink).

While I was standing against the wall waiting for a waiter. THAT WAS THE LAST I REMEMBERED. This was approximately 30 mins after he bought me the drink. It must have been around 2-30am.

I don't remember feeling quesy, or dizzy or being hit on the head, or anything. JUST NOTHING AFTER THAT POINT.

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

From my pocket my wallet was missing with 1. 5m taken out. 600k was left an my smart phone was stolen.

I had left my oakleys on the desk in the room (but my ATM card I'm sure I locked in the safe). Both of these were stolen as well.

Side note. Hotel Travel had some nice looking girls at 300k a pop. Seemed like a factory though so I didn't partake as I had a massage and HJ at Oasis by a pretty young girl. Great body but no english and was more interested in watching cartoons on the TV in the room. Hmm.

Sorry to hear that, GWA. That's a hard lesson everybody must care. Altough you lost some valuables, but still considered lucky. That kind of tricks usually happened when we travelled on bus. Many victims even not awake for days, some were dead. But this is the first time I hear that a foreigner done that (to a foreigner). So to other bros, take this lesson. Keep hunting, make friends, but always be carefull.

[Guy Wif Attitude]

Went to Jakarta for the weekend and this was my experience at Golden Crown.

Arrived, payed the 35k cover charge and proceeded inside to the main disco where the music was techno / doof doof or whatever they call it these days. The hookers mainly hang out close to the entrance, and also against the walls mainly on the left hand side. All the tables were full, only saw 1 bule there inside, rest were locals. Bought 2 beers and talked to a hooker who immediately started the requests for ecstasy. A lot of partygoers in indonesia partake in E, characterised by their swaying heads side to side, and backwards and forwards in an exagerated manner. Bought the girl a beer and packet of ciggies. Waiter brought the drinks and a glass of ice. As the waiter brought the drink, I didn't notice anything amiss. Can't remember if the can was opened when it arrived. She typed in 300k on her phone and showed it to me. I said I was only their to drink. Anyway, scoped out the place for another hour. Thats a long time so if my drink was spiked I dunno if the effects take that long to take effect. I got a bit bored and decided to walk into the lobby and close to the stairs a foreigner approached me and said he was glad to see another foreigner to talk to.

He said he was from Dubai on holiday, and was planning to go to Bangkok the next day. He was of arab descent, well built (obviously a gym buff). Said he ran his own business in Dubai. Nothing to be suspicious of at that point. He asked me where I was staying. I told him the name of the hotel. Hotel Peninsula, jalan manga bassar (next door to Oasis spa)

Went upstairs with him. This was another large floor with a podium with girls dancing (clothed). He insisted on buying me a beer, and when I said no, its ok I will pay, he said 'I invited you so I want to buy you a beer'. Can't remember if the beer was opened when it arrived, or if he gave it to me. Approached a few more girls, they werent that interested to talk but anyway we had conversations, so wasnt really that bothered. At this point around 20 mins had passed. We then went back down again and started dancing on the floor, I had just finished the beer and offered to buy him a drink. Went to find a waiter (as thats the only way you can buy a drink).

While I was standing against the wall waiting for a waiter. THAT WAS THE LAST I REMEMBERED. This was approximately 30 mins after he bought me the drink. It must have been around 2-30am.

I don't remember feeling quesy, or dizzy or being hit on the head, or anything. JUST NOTHING AFTER THAT POINT.

Next thing I remember is waking up around 9 in the morning in my hotel room.

From my pocket my wallet was missing with 1. 5m taken out. 600k was left an my smart phone was stolen.

I had left my oakleys on the desk in the room (but my ATM card I'm sure I locked in the safe). Both of these were stolen as well.

I had 2. 5hrs till my flight so I thought fuck it, need to get to the airport. So I asked the person at the desk if they noticed me come in. The girl said yes, you came in with a foreigner we thought it was your friend. I asked to see their CCTV but they said the manager was not in so not possible at the time. I thought fuck it, I need to catch my flight so I gave up and left.

Anyway, that was my jakarta experience.

Side note. Hotel Travel had some nice looking girls at 300k a pop. Seemed like a factory though so I didn't partake as I had a massage and HJ at Oasis by a pretty young girl. Great body but no english and was more interested in watching cartoons on the TV in the room. Hmm.