Non-Pro Garotas - Opinions & Advice

[Brazil Specialist]

i have a non-pro that i have been seeing off an on in the hinterlands of rj for almost a year, and maintaining long distance relationship between visits via net chat and calls. she speaks no english and tolerates my crappy porto. she is from a family, very old school that i did not even know existed. really, i thought that all people there were just sexually free, because i only knew the monger side that is spoken of here, in copa and centro and vm. now, i have met a girl that comes from a surbuban family, out west on the super via, that expects that a man comes there to meet the girl, and he does the dating, actually in the house on the sofa like this is some kind of parlor dating from 1800's. we don't do it that way, but they they expect her to live in the house until she is married and to help take care of the grandmother. they go irate and threaten to disown her if they think she is staying with me overnight because that is not something that a 'girl of the family' is supposed to do. when i met her, i told her basically that i was safado and had fucked many girls including hookers in rj, manila, tokyo and many other places. i even told her in great detail about things like group sex and dominatrix. she is not phased at all by the fact that i am so safado, and i tell her things to vet her and think she will run but she does not. this girl, i believe has only been with 2 other men and she hid them from her parents. they treated her like shit. i have come in, since day one, and treated her sexually and emotionally like she is the last woman on earth, but i have never given her a centavo, and even when she literally had ony about r10 to her name, she never asked me for money. i told her, this is the principle, i have been around the world and know many piranhas, if you would like money, you should find another man. when this girl met me, she had talked to me for months before in the net, daily non stop she was sending me emails. then we were fucking bareback within 2 hours after i met her in person, only to learn that she had not been on the pill. nossa! i thought this girl is totally crazy. so, since then i have been back there and of course i bought her pills in pachecho and fuck her bareback all the time and she will do anything. fucks bareback, fucks on period, i told her i do not care who she fucks, but she seems to always be at the net wanting to talk endlessly, meaning 5-6 hours at at time, so i am fairly certain that she is not even fucking anyone else. i told her she can fuck anything, it does not matter. i come home from work. and she wants to talk on the net, sem fim, every night for months and months. it becomes overwhelming.

the parents treated me almost like criminal because they have the idea that gringos just come there for sex. the girl tells lies to them, to come and stay with me in apartments in rj. i went everywhere with this girl to verify her college, her profession, her dentist, and she is always wanting to take me to these normal places and show me to her friends, so i can know her life. so, i am seeing in this girl, someone who is totally crazy and dedicated and open to everything. i saw how she barebacks with ease, and took anal even though much pain, and even was accepting when i told her of my history in s&m and wanted to introduce her to same stuff. i think maybe she is a keeper for this safado. i asked her if she would find it exciting to fuck tin the street in centro on the weekend when no cops are around and she was excited about that. i am thinking, if she will fuck in the street like that, let us skip that and escalate this to see if she would swing. i am thinking of taking her to 2a2. if she is a keeper, i would expect her to swing in my country. are there any tips that you can provide, for a girl like this, or taking a non-pro to 2a2? this girl is much different than other girls described here, but she tells me of friends that she has, who are also i guess, 'repressed' by family. this is good stuff. repression!

she reminds me of the daughter of my 100% religious christian cleaning lady. the first one had her 15 year party in the church in the presence of the priest. the second one, at 14, behaves very safada, but not sure if she actually f. cks around. probably not.

anyway, i have lots of concerns. the girl is the typical repressed girl. like in the us, she has no clue about pregnancy and disease.

i would not take her to a swing party. first of all, she might meet someone she knows. that would be a general disaster for you and her. don't deceive yourself, a rich brazilian family can fuck you over royally. not just a hit killing. it is so easy for a police friend to hide a pound of drugs in your stuff and find it. or find someone to accuse you of ****philia. and if they find you at 2a2, that might drive them over the top.

also the girl. maybe you appreciate you have a girl that is faithful and allows you to screw around. what more do you want?

if you spoil her further, to have her screw around, it probably will be of no advantage for you. if you have to spoil her further, try to get her to do lesbian. but even that, probably not a good idea.

contact me if you want to talk in person. i might get you in contact with brazilians who also might advise you.

[Rio Bob]

Are there any tips that you can provide, for a girl like this, or taking a non-pro to 2A2? This girl is much different than other girls described here, but she tells me of friends that she has, who are also I guess, 'repressed' by family. This is good stuff. Repression!

On occasion you will come across a young couple, he will be all over your girl fast and when you go to approach his girl she backs off, the guy then says it's her first time here. Last time this happened the GDP I was with said to me, it's my first time here too, I laughed and said yeah but you're a working girl. Anyway, I usually say to these guys that's too bad for you and pull my girl away. Who knows what these guys tell these girls to get them there that maybe they will just watch and they don't have to do anything or maybe these guys know they won't do anything and try to fuck some other guys girl anyway. Only once did I let a guy be with my girl who was with a girl who was there for the first time, his girl was much better than mine so I fingered her while she jerked me off, it was wonderful.

Anyway, your girl might be very liberal with you and her agenda might be to secure something long term with you but she is being cool and not letting you know that so if that is the case I suspect she won't want you to see her being plowed by some other guy moaning and groaning in 2a2 because it will ruin your image of her and she knows that and then the game is over. It doesn't sound like you care for anything long term with her so bring her there anyway and see if you can trade her for something good, everybody uses condoms there. But I would bet she would be reluctant to fuck some other guy in front of you if she cares about you and is looking for something long term, if she is not and she is hot then she'll probably fuck half the place, have fun.

[Sperto]

Fucks bareback, fucks on period, I told her I do not care who she fucks, but she seems to always be at the net wanting to talk endlessly, meaning 5-6 hours at at time, so I am fairly certain that she is not even fucking anyone else. I told her she can fuck anything, it does not matter.

Your Gf sounds like fun, but regarding that Brazil have maybe up to 800'000 cases of HIV I find that barebacking and encouraging her to f*ck around a bit risky, but that's just me.

About the swinging. That's not my cup of tea. I wouldn't fancy watching my Gf get f*cked by other guys. However we have our 2a2 expert RioBob who can answer any question related to swinging.

[Esperma]

I have a non-pro that I have been seeing off an on in the hinterlands of RJ for almost a year, and maintaining long distance relationship between visits via net chat and calls. She speaks no English and tolerates my crappy porto. She is from a family, very old school that I did not even know existed. Really, I thought that all people there were just sexually free, because I only knew the monger side that is spoken of here, in Copa and Centro and VM. Now, I have met a girl that comes from a surbuban family, out west on the Super Via, that expects that a man comes there to meet the girl, and he does the dating, actually in the house on the sofa like this is some kind of parlor dating from 1800's. We don't do it that way, but they they expect her to live in the house until she is married and to help take care of the grandmother. They go irate and threaten to disown her if they think she is staying with me overnight because that is not something that a 'girl of the family' is supposed to do. When I met her, I told her basically that I was safado and had fucked many girls including hookers in RJ, Manila, Tokyo and many other places. I even told her in great detail about things like group sex and dominatrix. She is not phased at all by the fact that I am so safado, and I tell her things to vet her and think she will run but she does not. This girl, I believe has only been with 2 other men and she hid them from her parents. They treated her like shit. I have come in, since day one, and treated her sexually and emotionally like she is the last woman on earth, but I have never given her a centavo, and even when she literally had ony about R10 to her name, she never asked me for money. I told her, this is the principle, I have been around the world and know many piranhas, if you would like money, you should find another man. When this girl met me, she had talked to me for months before in the net, daily non stop she was sending me emails. Then we were fucking bareback within 2 hours after I met her in person, only to learn that she had not been on the pill. Nossa! I thought this girl is totally crazy. So, since then I have been back there and of course I bought her pills in Pachecho and fuck her bareback all the time and she will do anything. Fucks bareback, fucks on period, I told her I do not care who she fucks, but she seems to always be at the net wanting to talk endlessly, meaning 5-6 hours at at time, so I am fairly certain that she is not even fucking anyone else. I told her she can fuck anything, it does not matter. I come home from work. And she wants to talk on the net, sem fim, every night for months and months. It becomes overwhelming.

The parents treated me almost like criminal because they have the idea that gringos just come there for sex. The girl tells lies to them, to come and stay with me in apartments in RJ. I went everywhere with this girl to verify her college, her profession, her dentist, and she is always wanting to take me to these normal places and show me to her friends, so I can know her life. So, I am seeing in this girl, someone who is totally crazy and dedicated and open to everything. I saw how she barebacks with ease, and took anal even though much pain, and even was accepting when I told her of my history in S&M and wanted to introduce her to same stuff. I think maybe she is a keeper for this safado. I asked her if she would find it exciting to fuck tin the street in Centro on the weekend when no cops are around and she was excited about that. I am thinking, if she will fuck in the street like that, let us skip that and escalate this to see if she would swing. I am thinking of taking her to 2A2. If she is a keeper, I would expect her to swing in my country. Are there any tips that you can provide, for a girl like this, or taking a non-pro to 2A2? This girl is much different than other girls described here, but she tells me of friends that she has, who are also I guess, 'repressed' by family. This is good stuff. Repression!

[Esperma]

But also she got jealous and suspicious, and she started asking questions about my life. Same way as it goes with the women in my home country, except women in Brazil are worse, I don't fly to Brazil for that same old story, I did quit!

And now I pay only with real money, it is much cheaper!

I have to agree, if you are just looking for sex and have low / moderate standards on sex performance, then P4P is the cheapest way to go. But, if you are looking for real GFE several times a day then a NP is the way to go. But it DOES cost more because the girls, like any other in the world, start to think that you are spending time with them because you feel emotional attachment, and they return what they think they are receiving. But CAREFUL with the non-pros, I have been with a NP before, paying for nothing except her BC pills long term, and she told me that yeah if her BC fails then she is coming to my country with her filho and we are going to be together 'pra sempre! ' So I watched her swallowing that pill every day.

[Esperma]

My non-pro GF in RJ is into Candomble, and from a religious perspective I would say follows more closely Umbanda. Basically to gringos like me, Macumba like Voodoo of the USA.

Disclaimer, religious things are not ISG territory, much easier ways to get bunda, but I must say that I have noticed, if you can get into that circle, it is both a good cultural opportunity and a good chance to meet people. If you do not like the girl you are with, you can find another and all very open minded and not gold-digger types.

This girl has never asked me for a centavo in almost a year, even when she had no money and did not even have money for bus fares to come meet me and stay in my place, she bummed it from family. But, I noticed that after I went to her Candomble casa as an observer, her level of interest in me went up 200% and she started to get very serious. But remember everything is optional.

So, ask around about opportunities to attend such festas. If you speak okay conversational Porto. Then maybe a chance to meet people. If not, you get to see something of Brasil. For example, I got to hold the chicken to be slaughtered in a ceremony to ward off a spell that she believed was cast on her by a enemy who is a Mae of a casa of Macumba. I told her she was half-hearted, Yoruba people would have went all the way and drank the blood. She said, I fuck with blood. True, got my redwings from her and bareback since 2 hours after I met her. Considers me her enamorado, talks to me daily, and does not care who I screw as long as I maintain with her. Wild stuff.

So, for cultural experience and good uninhibited times, one of these Candomble followers is a good person to meet. Plenty of young ladies, pick you color, pick your social status, anyone can be met there. Ask around and look around until you find. Just be careful who you ask, of your associates or friends in RJ because I get the impression that even though your buddy might be really safado, still he might have some kind of moral issue with Candomble if he is in one of the more mainstream religions. Just be mindful.

[SkinnyBop]

Anyone knows any site where it is easy to meet nice non-pro girls in the São Paulo Region?

Thanks in advance

Vila Madalena district has great night life.

[Prosal]

Anyone knows any site where it is easy to meet nice non-pro girls in the São Paulo Region?

Thanks in advance

Agree with MoonD. Sao Paulo is without a doubt the place in Brasil where scoring non-pros is the easiest. Girls don't have this unsufferable haughty attitude that have the cariocas. They are usually more worldly and modest than their Rio cousins. And more approachable, less "cliquey". Maybe the fact to live in such a dehumanizing megapole makes people more human.

[MoonDog]

Anyone knows any site where it is easy to meet nice non-pro girls in the São Paulo Region?

Thanks in advance

Just go for a walk down a busy street or in a mall. Even if you don't speak Portuguese, there are beautiful girls all around who would like to me a nice guy.

Moondog

[Netmaniaks]

Anyone knows any site where it is easy to meet nice non-pro girls in the São Paulo Region?

Thanks in advance

[Esperma]

I cannot afford free pushy, it way too expensive for me.

In the past few years, I had an experience with a non-pro; I never paid anything more than restaurant and transportation when we were together. At the beginning it was really nice, and I was having a good time and good sex with her and she was telling me how good it was to be with me. Then she thought she was in love with me and she said all the things a woman say in this case, like planning to live with me and all that stuff. But also she got jealous and suspicious, and she started asking questions about my life. Same way as it goes with the women in my home country, except women in Brazil are worse, I don't fly to Brazil for that same old story, I did quit!

And now I pay only with real money, it is much cheaper!

My experience has been that if you meet a normal girl, meaning a cultured girl with a degree, not a funkeira, she is wanting to meet gringos. The reason being that the Brasilian guys make them corna with a whole bunch of girls and they really do not like that. The foreign guys, even ones here, seem less safado than the Brasilian guys who keep several girlfriends, buy them cars and houses and make babies with them. My semi-long time NP girlfriend is also clingy, and used to be jealous. She is really pushing me to D the lady in my home country and come to live in RJ with permanent visa. She does not speak any English, so very difficult for her to come to my country. I am very seriously contemplating it. The best thing is, that she knows well what I do related to ISG types of activities, and I have told her some of my stories, very safado, and it does not seem to phase her. [I previously was a Senior under another name with over 600 posts in RJ and SEA]. She says, well, do not get anyone pregnant! So I could live in mongering mecca with an educated girl that I like alot, who also does mind if I step out to VM once in a while, making 2x what I did my home country relative to the average wage. It is definitely something to consider.

[Making Moves]

Keeping the non pro movement going.

I went to Lapa with my chick on Friday, wow didn't know it was like that, looked like a carnival back home with everyone outside. She took me round, went to take some pictures on the steps, had a drink and settled at some hiphop club, it was dirt cheap to get in. 8 for guys. 5 for girls, there were a few hot chicks but of course my chick is not giving me room to breathe, she had fun cause she had not been to the club for a while, she wanted to be there longer.

We caught a taxi home even tho she insisted that we took the bus, I told her to take the taxi all the way home after he dropped me, she declined and caught the bus from near my apartment, next day she came and took me to Ipanema, they had the carnival street party going, there were some nice chicks, I gave her my camera to take pictures of asses, LOL, she wasn't offended, she told me to video hot guys too I told her hell no.

After she took me in an elevator and we went high to the top where you could see Ipanema beach, took some pics and she said "lets go to my favela, I'll take you home" I went, I had wanted to do a favela tour with a company but shit I was getting this for free, she showed me where the dealers used to hang out and stuff and she said, come. Went up some stairs,"this is my home". Went inside and met her mum / sis, the mum was like "why didn't you tell me he was coming I could've cooked" she said to the mum I don't eat, she gave me water her little sis was too shy to speak in English with me even though she's studying it in school, took some pics with them and then just as we were about to leave, the father woke up, she introduced me and he said he was going to take me on the tour, he took me to a mountain top, I was scared to climb, he took my camcorder from me and went further filming.

Had to rush back cause my friend from Nova iguacu wanted to take me there for her brother's birthday, I had bought him a toy since I would be staying there at the tail end of my trip, the plan was to go there for a few hours then head back to Lapa, my chick said there was no way I'd be back in time, she was going to go home, I told her to stay in my apt but she still had to go home to get clothes for Lapa, I just gave her the key to the apartment and went to Nova.

OMG was that place far or what? Anyway got there and EVERYBODY wanted to talk to me. Asking me if I knew any portuguese, I told them the 5 words I knew and sang a baile funk song."cabaret" they were pissing themselves laughing, they ask me if I knew what a cabaret was, I told them, they asked me if I knew more funk songs, I sang a few and they said they wanted to take me to Rio Sampa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L1qqVwNC0U

I was familiar with this since I had done extensive video searches on Youtube prior to my trip. Also by this time it was looking like I wasn't going to make it back to Copa or Lapa in time, so off to Rio Sampa. Wow so many gostosas in there, looked like the video but the only bad thing is you can't take cameras in that joint. While in there my chick kept texting me, she said she was going home and going to leave the key with the security, I told her to stay and wait, she sent me a couple of text saying if she knew I wasn't going to be backshe would've gone home.

Anyway got home next day at 7am. Had a bad experience with a taxi drive from downtown, I'll talk about this later, my chick was there, she'd clean the place up and was sleeping on the floor. I asked why she didn't use the bed she said she was waiting for me etc, she said the talk of going home were empty threats and I was tryna sweet her up, she said I was acting like a typical Brasilian man after coming home from the Cabaret, LOL.

I've got more non pro stories but I'd be lying to say I've fuck anyone other than my chick. She's always with me but I've had chicks asking me for my number / facebook when they discovered I'm a gringo, they want to practise their English. More stories later.

[Making Moves]

I speak a little portugues, but not much. On POF I usually start with something basic, and ask if they speak any English. There are a good number who do, and who want to practice their language skills. I did change my location to Rio and put in my profile where I am staying and for how long. The trick seems to be getting them just to meet for coffee or a drink, nee that happens everything else just follows naturally.

Good luck!

Nice nice. I met my non pro I had been talking to on / off for a few months, I didn't think I'd see her as we just spoke on skype here / there. Sure enough when I turned on my phone she had whatsapp me asking if I was in town, I said yes, she asked if she could come over, told her yes and she came. Spent the whole day with her, she took me first to search for an adapter which I needed badly for my camera. Laptop phone etc, after she took me to Flamengo where I'd be doing some MMA, there I met my favourite fighter Jose Aldo, took a picture, we stopped to do some grocery shopping, she was hungry but since I do not eat junk food she didn't want to eat alone, she was acting shy, I told them to give her pizza, she had a slice, I had some nice mango juice and also drank the Brasillian tea.

We came back to mine but I said I wanted to hang out, went to Copa beach, did some pull ups / dips, took some pictures, we came home she started cooking, she made dinner and also something for me to eat today. At night we did our thing, she went home about 4am in the morning.

She just sent me a whatsapp message like "watch out the police is on strike". I guess she's saying the thugs mighe be out preying on potential victims.

Let me hop over to POF.

[Chercheur]

I cannot afford free pushy, it way too expensive for me.

In the past few years, I had an experience with a non-pro; I never paid anything more than restaurant and transportation when we were together. At the beginning it was really nice, and I was having a good time and good sex with her and she was telling me how good it was to be with me. Then she thought she was in love with me and she said all the things a woman say in this case, like planning to live with me and all that stuff. But also she got jealous and suspicious, and she started asking questions about my life. Same way as it goes with the women in my home country, except women in Brazil are worse, I don't fly to Brazil for that same old story, I did quit!

And now I pay only with real money, it is much cheaper!

[WhoIsIt]

Do you speak Portuguese? I just had a quick browse and I think only 2 actually have their message in English with one specifying she only wants men in America since she's going to be there for 1 or 2 years.

Did you change your profile to Rio, Brasil?

Cheers. I hope I find something there, I'm there for the first time tomorrow.

I speak a little portugues, but not much. On POF I usually start with something basic, and ask if they speak any English. There are a good number who do, and who want to practice their language skills. I did change my location to Rio and put in my profile where I am staying and for how long. The trick seems to be getting them just to meet for coffee or a drink, nee that happens everything else just follows naturally.

Good luck!