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05-23-12 15:52 #1215
Posts: 544Nice catch Doppel!
How do you find an hotel nearby once you got her attention?
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05-22-12 14:52 #1214
Posts: 677Originally Posted by Doppel One [View Original Post]
JD
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04-30-12 02:37 #1213
Posts: 149I should have emphasized when I advocated jumping on the back of a xe-om to explore the local scene, I only ever do this is the day time, normally mid-afternoon. After dark the 'night animals' come out and many of them like hunting tourists. Don't give them that opportunity.
Also, my advice was aimed at fellas who have a bit of time on their hands. If you're on a whirlwind tour of the country's highlights then fitting in a bit of mongering might be pushing it, especially as you'll be visiting well-trodden touristic places where the traps are already set and waiting. To get the best out of Vitnam you've got to get off the tourist trail where the locals are (relatively) friendly and you're a novelty. The shy but admiring glances you get from the girls in the local market are enough to put a smile on any man's face. However jaded.
And I really don't have any great antipathy towards Thailand. If you want a beach holiday there's no better place in the world, probably. The attitude of the girls leaves a lot to be desired though and is only eclipsed IMO by the strangely narrow-minded attitude of long term expats who do that silly visa-run thing instead of visiting neighboring countries when their visa expires. I know guys who have lived for 15 years in Pattaya on tourist visas and have done 50 visa runs but have never visited anywhere else. Wow. How myopic and in love with your safety-zone can you be?
And Franco, like you, if I ever visit a place where I think a girl is there under duress I walk too. Plenty of willing ones out there.
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04-29-12 10:05 #1212
Posts: 134Doppel, thanks for the good advice. On one trip to VN I did a similar thing, where I jumped on the back of a moto-tout's bike and was taken to 2 places before he got aggressive and put on a threatening demeanor because I had not earnt him a commission. He demanded some seemingly excessive amount for driving me around (I paid, as we were in some back street, and I know better than to get into a fight with a thug in his local territory, and it was probably only US$10). I caught a taxi back to my hotel, but as I was a bit shaken (and was having trouble with Vinaphone internet for phone maps / GPS) had no idea where the two places had been when considering mongering solo.
This did not put me off, and I've had varying experiences on other trips to VN (though still unfortunately never mind blowing, fantastic experiences).
I think this reiterates what I was trying to say in my last post. I definitely think VN can be a fantastic mongering destination, and that the possibility of getting better looking ladies for less $ is possible IF you have the time (and patience that comes with having the time). If you are going to be in each city for only a few days, and are not a regular to Vietnam it can be less pleasant (though I think still worthwhile. Partly because of the challenge to it as you indicate).
For this reason I don't think it is fair to judge people that choose Thailand over VietNam for mongering, especially if their time on vacation is limited. I personally prefer most things about Vietnam, but if I am going to take a dirty long weekend somewhere (like I did for 5 days over Easter) I would choose Thailand, as I can be in the bedroom within a few hours of landing with a decent to extremely hot lady for $15 to $75 (depending on the hotness of woman, what area you are in and what extras are provided). There is a chance that the woman may be a hardened 'super-pro' because of the large and open sex industry in Thailand (though you may get the same kind of lady in VN because the sex industry is not as accepted, so less providers to choose from, and less part timers). The positive trade-off for the openess of the Thailand sex industry is that the woman is going to be there by choice (at least in tourist places); however twice in VN I 'stopped proceedings' because the girl seemed not to be in the business by choice (once at a MP, once a late night FL organised by a tout).
As this part of the forum seems much more active, and useable information seems much more forthcoming these days, I look forward to my next trip; as I would gladly renounce the sleaziness of parts of Thailand for all the things I do love about Vietnam.
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04-26-12 18:53 #1211
Posts: 5Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo [View Original Post]
Doppel One. Some good advice. I will have to try that next I am in Ca Mau. Hopefully I can get away from my family long enough.
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04-26-12 07:46 #1210
Posts: 149Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo [View Original Post]
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04-21-12 14:03 #1209
Posts: 3081Yes, Tucker, I lucked out and met her on the cruise. There were other girls but she was the most desirable.
I'd bring a girl because chances of meeting one is slim. I just lucked out this time.
There's some action at Cat Ba so I hear.
The food and comfort and space are all great, Go on a three-day instead of a two-day so you can go to Cat Ba.
http://www.halonggalaxycruise.com/
Originally Posted by Tucker McElroy [View Original Post]
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04-21-12 08:57 #1208
Posts: 134Originally Posted by Doppel One [View Original Post]
I prefer VietNam over Thailand for many things, but mongering is not one of them. As has been mentioned many times by ex-pats and VN forum regulars; without intermediate VN language skills, your own transport, and a fair bit of info on the area you will be visiting, there is a good chance that most your P4P experiences will be more expensive or much less fun than Thailand.
I still spent time mongering both times I was in VN, and enjoyed the challenge (which is one of the things a few seniors on this thread have said is good about VN P4P) , but due to the above points, and the fact that if caught you can get into serious trouble, I understand people heading to Thailand if P4P is what they are after.
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04-09-12 03:44 #1207
Posts: 1264Baling bay
Depending on your age, you could meet a stray backpacker about. Highly unlikely that you would meet a Vietnam gal taking one of these cruises as it seemed to consist of only westerners due to the price structure. However, that being said, there are a few MP joints curving around the harbor with some quite tasty talent at reasonable prices. All open for negotiation.
QUOTE=Tucker McElroy; 1256991]Interesting, you say she's not P4P. Can you elaborate on how you met? You went on a Halong Bay cruise and picked her up there? Are there many / any single women around / available as companions on those cruises? I was thinking of doing one of those cruises next time I go back, and am debating between bringing a girl along (which may be difficult or require compromises because of her job) and just hoping to find somebody there.
How are the cruises themselves? Comfort? Food? Cabin space? Cost?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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04-09-12 02:25 #1206
Posts: 1778Originally Posted by Charlie Horse [View Original Post]
Especially mongering feels completely different.
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04-08-12 17:03 #1205
Posts: 2502Originally Posted by Charlie Horse [View Original Post]
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04-08-12 09:17 #1204
Posts: 149A couple of snaps from north Vietnam.
D1
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03-29-12 12:21 #1203
Posts: 169Originally Posted by Doppel One [View Original Post]
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03-29-12 10:47 #1202
Posts: 149Sam Son girl (19)
I met this gal in Sam Son. A beach resort not far from Thanh Hoa. Like most Vietnam beach resorts there are massage parlours and houses of ill-repute a plenty. 19 years old with a lovely firm body. 250K (around $15). Worth it.
I'm always slightly surprised when I traipse out to these houses of ill-repute that I'm always the only foreigner around despite the fact that the girls are generally hot (especially for the price). Okay the level of service can be variable in Vietnam but mongering isn't supposed to an homogenized experience. You take the rough with the smooth. Over the years I've come to the conclusion that most mongers prefer home comforts to a bit of adventure and better quality girls. Hence the popularity of the Russian Republic of Pattaya where the dogs of the SE Asia howl at the moon and the punters still pony up the cash. Strange.
D1
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03-12-12 09:15 #1201
Posts: 28Originally Posted by D Cups [View Original Post]
How are the cruises themselves? Comfort? Food? Cabin space? Cost?
Thanks!