General Reports

[Sunset Strip]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.

I agree. Living in SOCAL for years has allowed me to become a known quantity in Tijuana. Once the girls know you they treat you better. But it took over a decade to get this treatment.

The other thing was I had to learn to take them or leave them. My main girl used to try to treat me like a regular trick at times. I actually ignored her for about four years. Now remember I was in Tijuana at least twice a week for the last 12 years, so she had to take this embarrassment for years. It takes time and like a real relationship you both have to give a little.

I actually get GFE in Tijuana from two chicas. In fact, I am so well known that I can actually show up prior to a certain street girl's arrival, pay at the desk, and just chill in a room until she gets there. And in another hotel, I just show up, plop down $3 and they will actually go down the block and get"my" girl. I have not had a knock on the door at either of these hotels in over five years. When I am done, I am done.

And the girls give total GFE in the room.

The downside, if there is one, is that in Tijuana few chicas bother me on the street. They all know I am "with" somebody.

We need to remember that Mexican women are VERY loyal. Even though these are hookers they have that loyal quality and appreciate it in us. The California Prison guards always marvel at how Mexican American women visit their imprisoned man not matter how long he is locked up. No other group is that loyal, they say. As the saying goes, a Mexican won't divorce you, she might KILL you, but she will not divorce you!

P. S. Another good thing about being a known quantity in Tijuana is that the girl drops her guard and you get a good look at her. When I show up early for my main girl, they send her straight to see me. No makeup, no high heeled shoes, etc. Just her in all her natural beauty. GFE all the way. No hooker attire, she saves that for other guys!

SS

[Sunset Strip]

Do not do this again!

If you want to try to bully me, then we can settle this easily. Otherwise leave me alone!

SS

au contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in mx, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the zona norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, imho, due to its proximity to the usa, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the usa, such as prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (i'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time gfe-type services really ever existed in tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[Sunset Strip]

Dude you just repeated what I said! I think you were just trying to be contrary but if you read my post again, I said exactly what you repeat. Your first paragraph merely states in other words what I said about prostitution being technically illegal except in certain zones.

Your words:

"That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations."

Exact same thing! We all know this already!

Dude I am decades long veteran of Tijuana!

Then you go on to state that there has never been a vacation, GFE, long term sort of environment in Tijuana. THAT IS WHAT I SAID! MY POINT WAS THAT Tijuana SHOULD CHANGE!

"Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits"

DUDE! PLEASE!

Ss.

SS.

Au contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in MX, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[RomanyStar]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.

I rarely buy drinks. I tip dancers, I tip those that come to me for a feel, and I occasionally do a private dance.

I speak pretty passable Spanish, and make it clear that I'm not interested in a half hour upstairs. I go for a minimum of three hours at Premier, but try for an overnight at a high end hotel. I let them know how hot I think they are, and that I want to make it a romantic evening. Ask about their kids, their home. Get a phone number. Texting is the norm.

I try to schedule in the next couple days when they have a night off. Pricing is usually 200-300 for 7PM to 7AM. Works out to cheaper than the alley. I always show up with a little gift bag from Victoria's Secret, and chocolates. I'll take them for dinner if all is going well.

This works sometimes and not others, one of my HK favorites just won't see me outside the club. I've been in and out of TJ for thirty years, pretty active for the past couple years, and have had this turn into some amazing evenings. Currently have a half dozen I can call for all nighters, but tend to not repeat often to avoid too strong a connection on either of our parts.

Latin ladies are romantics, even those working in the Zona, use it to your advantage.

If this is too much work for you call Mundo or Tanya, they both have fair prices for GFE girls.

[Artisttyp]

I have been studying Tijuana for a while now. I am still learning but my take on GFE here is :

It is possible. How? You become a regular visitor AND YOU ARENT CHEAP when buying ficha drinks. If anything the chica knows that you are always good for a drink. On the occasion you do take her upstairs she will remember that and obviously most barriers have already been worked through.

Some of these girls like to drink more than they like earning money. Working in a club sober for 8 hrs a day is a bore. I've done it and it isn't fun watching other people have fun when you arent. They can't afford to buy them for themselves. YOU become the savior for getting them through a day at the office. If you know some spanish even better so it doesn't ruin their buzz when they are trying to decipher your english into spanish.

Lone mongers who come into town for a few days now and then will not have the greatest luck but obviously being overly generous with ficha drinks can put you in a better position.

[Artisttyp]

Flying into San Diago tomorrow, going to spend the weekend in Tijuana, Cascadas, anybody else going to be in town and want to hang out and chase women together. I should be at the HK around 5 or 6. Ill be the short pudgy middle aged unempressive looking white guy. White shirt tan pants. If your gong to be in town and see me there stop and say hello.

Chris

Chris if I am around the zona at that time I will look for you. I wear a navy blue dickies quilted jacket and carry a black knapsack or fanny back on my back. I'd like to hear some of your travel stories.

Cheers

[Phordphan]

P. S.

I forgot prostitution is technically illegal in Mexico, just tolerated in certain zones. This fact may well influence why guys and girls do mingle openly the way they do in latin american nations where prostitution is legal.

SS

Au contraire, mon frere.

It is legal in MX, however it is regulated and regulations tend to vary from state to state.

That's why, in Tijuana for instance, you see most of it happening in the Zona Norte, or zone of tolerance. You can have chicas standing on the street, going shh, shh, and all that goes with it. It's been zoned to this area and, at least officially, not permitted elsewhere. However, there are still laws forbidding brothels and pimping. That's why you have to exit a bar and walk on the street (even a few feet) to get to the hotel. And also why in-house escort places don't advertise their locations.

Tijuana has evolved as it has, IMHO, due to its proximity to the USA, and its traditional "use" as a spot to briefly escape idiotic regulation in the USA, such as Prohibition. It's never really been a vacation destination (I'm not sure how many border towns truly are) , and the prototypical customer tended to be a gringo who popped over the border for some cheap booze and quickie sex. I don't think the market for long-time GFE-type services really ever existed in Tijuana. You can get it, but it's a lot more work, and requires multiple visits.

[Sunset Strip]

It took me a few years to hone my skills and learn to speak Spanish fluently, but now I get GFE 9 times out of 10 in the zona. I think the zona knows that GFE will get more guys to stay in Tijuana but the guys don't know how to get it!

Ok, Joe, that is food for thought. So the GFE is possible if you work at it diligently. Makes sense.

But I was actually talking in terms of comparison with the DR, Brazil, and a few other places in latin America, where guys hang out with girls, stay in relatively cheap apartments, get all night at a good rate (about what we pay for an hour in Tijuana). In the DR and Brazil you can walk down the street holding hands with girls, grab dinner in their "zona". There are discos where you can go and hang out with girls (not strip bars). You can take girls to the movies, etc.

Some guys do all of this in Tijuana but the norm is wam, bam, than you ma'am. You leave her the money and walk out the room separately. There is no you and her beyond the few minutes in the room. Prostitution in Tijuana is closer to USA prostitution (very business like) than anywhere else in Latin America.

Tijuana is a gem that has much more to offer, IMO.

P.S.
I forgot prostitution is technically illegal in Mexico, just tolerated in certain zones. This fact may well influence why guys and girls do mingle openly the way they do in latin american nations where prostitution is legal.
SS

[Joe Arturo]

Tijuana will really be a good spot if there comes a time when we can get the GFE inside the zona. It took Tijuana a long time to realize that sprucing the zona hotels would entice men to stay in Tijuana. Now all they need to realize is that some sort of GFE that men can get in other Latin American nations might entice more men to stay with Tijuana.

SS

It took me a few years to hone my skills and learn to speak Spanish fluently, but now I get GFE 9 times out of 10 in the zona. I think the zona knows that GFE will get more guys to stay in Tijuana but the guys don't know how to get it!

[Chris Long]

Flying into San Diago tomorrow, going to spend the weekend in Tijuana, Cascadas, anybody else going to be in town and want to hang out and chase women together. I should be at the HK around 5 or 6. Ill be the short pudgy middle aged unempressive looking white guy. White shirt tan pants. If your gong to be in town and see me there stop and say hello.

Chris

[Rabo Verde]

I agree with TA below. Why anyone would stay in San Ysidro post 9/11 is a mistery to me. Yeah just what I want to do when I am drunk and tired, pay $5 for a cab ride back to the border go stand in line for an hour+ so I can have the great privilege of staying at some stinky fleabag in San Ysidro for the same price as a nice room in the zona. Why waste several hours a day fucking around with homeland security, crooked cops, etc. For the "privilege" of sleeping on american soil a whole mile as the crow flies from the Hong Kong Club???? WHY WHY WHY?

Then the next day I can walk back to the border, pay $5 to go BACK to the zona, great idea and waste ANOTHER hour or so. The when I find a girl I am going to pay $5-15 to use a room for 15 or 30 minutes anyway, and instead of staying in my nice clean room drinking champagne in the jacuzzi for as long as I want for $60, some kid is gonna knock on my door and kick me out. If you guys have some masochistic streak, fine. I will be in my nice clean jacuzzi while you are wasting your time and licking cum off the pillow of some fleabag hotel as fast as you can before the cum-boy knocksso you can come here and brag to the rest of us about how you saved $20 by wasting hours of your time. Oh wait you didn't save anything, you paid $10 round trip for the taxi, wasted hours of your time, and then had to pay for a TEMPORARY cum-stained room in the zona anyway so you could get a quickie.

[HorseTrader]

I disagree with you saying it's not safe to commute back and forth to San Ysidro. I do this every trip, w / o incident. If you are going to cross the border during the day back into the states, I would agree that's not a good idea. I come back after midnight and a 5 minute line is a long one.

Which guy are you tipping to delay the knock? I never remember anyone showing us where the room is. The guy at the counter gives her a room number, and I follow her lead. Never got lost, BTW. LOL

Sometimes I stay in San Ysidro, sometimes in San Diego, seldom in Tijuana. It all works and I've had zero problems.

I've crossed the border 10 times in the last 2 weeks without incident. Longest line was back to the point where it doubles around off the sidewalk and onto the street; that was last Sunday evening around 10:00 and it took 1 hour and 5 minutes (I timed it). Three times I had less than 10-minute wait; those were all at about 8:00 PM. One weekday evening at about 7:30 PM there was absolutely no wait, but the agent said that an hour before it was all backed up.

[Ath Trainer]

I disagree with you saying it's not safe to commute back and forth to San Ysidro. I do this every trip, w / o incident. If you are going to cross the border during the day back into the states, I would agree that's not a good idea. I come back after midnight and a 5 minute line is a long one.

Which guy are you tipping to delay the knock? I never remember anyone showing us where the room is. The guy at the counter gives her a room number, and I follow her lead. Never got lost, BTW. LOL

[Sunset Strip]

Travel Addict is making sense here. In the old days, before 9/11, nobody would really consider staying in Tijuana. Cascades was a basic hotel. I knew some rooms in Cascades that actually shared an A / C back then.

But now there have been lots of improvements and as TA states you are, to an extent, in a better room than you can get in San Diego oftentimes for the same price. Try getting a jacuzzi suite for $65 in San Diego!

The other big advantage and change from the old days is the LONG wait in the border line. The wait can kill your trip, for sure. In fact, I know lots of guys who will fly to other areas rather than Tijuana just to avoid the waiting each day.

But TA is right, staying the zona will cut out the issue of the border line all together.

TJ will really be a good spot if there comes a time when we can get the GFE inside the zona. It took TJ a long time to realize that sprucing the zona hotels would entice men to stay in TJ. Now all they need to realize is that some sort of GFE that men can get in other Latin American nations might entice more men to stay with TJ.

SS

[Travel Addict]

SHORT VISIT TO Tijuana?

WORRIED ABOUT GETTING LOST, COPS, SAFETY, FOOD, ETC?

DON'T KNOW WHERE TO STAY?

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT, BUT HERE IS THE SAFEST, QUICKEST, CLEANEST, DRAMA- FREE BUT NOT CHEAPEST WAY TO SEE Tijuana FOR THE FIRST TIME.

DO NOT DRIVE A RENTAL CAR INTO Tijuana. DO NOT TRY TO STAY OUTSIDE THE ZONA AND GO BACK AND FORTH, DO NOT GO EXPLORING ON YOUR OWN. DO NOT TRY TO STAY ON THE USA SUDE AND COMMUTE, IT IS NO SAFER AND YOU CAN GET STUCK IN A 3 HOUR LINE TO GO BACK ACROSS.

DO NOT WALK AROUND OUTSIDE DRUNK STONED OR WITH CONTRABAND IN YOUR POCKET.

DO NOT TALK TO OR FOLLOW people YOU DON'T KNOW ON THE STREET.

EAT AT THE MONTE CARLO RESTAURANT NEXT TO ADELITAS, CALIENTE ACROSS THE STREET,"COMO LO BUENO" RESTAURANT NEXT TO MERMAIDS.

XOXO STORE IN FRONT OF HK IS THE 7/11 OF MEXICO, COFFEE, BEER, ETC.

OFFER $20 to open negotiations with street girls (YMMV, make sure you know what you are getting, OK to go up to $30-40 for exceptional or on wkends.)

S / G operate in 15 minute increments, bar girls in 30 minute increments, $5-10 for a quickie room 15 minutes, $12-15 to use the bar hotel for 30 mins.

Club girls offer $60 (YMMV anywhere from $50-100 depending on day, time, phase of the moon, special interests etc.) 30 mins.

Stick to the Hong Kong, Adelitas, Chavelas, Chicago, Tropical, street girls until you know what you are doing.

BEFORE you enter a room, give a buck or two to the guy who takes you there, now you are big friends and he won't come bang on your door early.

If you follow these instructions, you will be 99% safe and have a happy experience.

STAY OVER RIGHT IN THE ZONA: The Tijuana scene is a red light 4x3 block area where it is legal, the cops (theoretically) protect the girls the hotels and the clubs, and 90% of the girls won't leave that safe area unless they have known you for a long time, so now you are going to have to rent a fleabag room for $5 for 15 minutes or $10 for 30 minutes to do the deed.

WHY NOT GET A ROOM AND JUST STAY THERE, NOT WORRY ABOUT TIME LIMITS, WALKING AROUND, ETC?

Best bet: Walk across the border, grab a yellow cab 50 mts in front of the gate, go DIRECTLY to the Hong Kong Club. 10 minute ride for $5, pay $50 for a VIP card at the HK front desk, then walk right upstairs to the Cascadas Hotel, get a regular room for about $40, Jaccuzi suite for $65, nicer and cleaner than the Ticuan. It is the only place the HK girls are allowed to go, AND you can enter with any s / g, who will think you area high class guy for not making her go in the stinky $5 room. The place was completely remodeled over 5mm a yr ago and most of these cheapskates you are talking to won't spring for an extra $20 for the nice rooms, LOL.

The jacuzzi suites are on the higher floors, very little noise from the club below. Great restaurants on the street, clean food, room service, if you are coming from out of town why fuck around to save $20? You got everything there on ONE BLOCK. Check out the pic of the room with the champagne and jacuzzi that's the actual room = $85 MINUS 20% for the VIP card. $20 higher Friday Saturday, Immaculate and safe, and you don't have to go gallivanting around in taxis. The street girls stand right outside the door to the Cascadas. After a coupla nights there, WITH 200+ to choose from within 100 mts of your room, you will know the whole area, have lots of friends, and THEN you may decide to try somewhere else.

http://hktijuana.com/

http://hotelcascadas.com/

YES THERE ARE A LOT OF CHEAPER ALTERNATIVES, AND INTERESTING SIDETRIPS, BUT THEY ARE ALL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE CASCADAS / HK / ADELITAS / TRIANGLE ANYWAY SO JUST CHECK IN FOR A NIGHT AND THEN GO LOOKING AROUND.