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05-27-12 22:45 #2068
Posts: 775Excellent points Gato!
I am not a local Tijuana visitor. Stop in once / twice a year for 3 to 4 visits each trip. I use to tell the girls where I actually was from. Most did not know where it was. It did not help me in the room. I now tell them I am from San Diego, and come there fairly often. Me being a "frequent flyer" in their eyes, lets them know I know the ropes, and gives them hope of me being a repeat customer. I try to use this technique every where I monger.
As far as paying up front, I use to do what ever the girl asked. If she wanted it first, I gave it. If she did not ask till after, that was OK too. Now, if they ask, I put up a bit of a battle to pay after. I will show them the $, so they can see that I have it. Will then offer the put it on the table. Have never bailed out of the room, but used it as a negotiation, quite successfully I might add.
In the states, negotiating with a girl who is getting ready to fuck your brains out, may lead to a poor performance on her part. In Mexico, negotiating is expected, and should not be considered abnormal behavior.
I try and analyze the situation through the girls perspective when I monger, and plan my strategy accordingly. We always say that girls should know how to eat pussy better than guys be / see they know what they like.
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05-27-12 20:05 #2067
Posts: 382Originally Posted by Norte [View Original Post]
Most girls I'm with will ask for money afterward, but when I'm with a new girl who wants money up front I'll set it on the counter and if she puts it in her purse I'm OK with that, too. If there is a problem, bring it up with management and you'll get your money back (or at lead most of it, and unless the girl makes the bar a ton of money on drinks, she'll be canned with one or two strikes). And even though some guys think prepaid means poorer service, prepaid also assures the girl you're not going to rip her off.
Paying at the end of the session is not a way to guarantee she won't be a clock watcher or give mediocre or poor service. Nor is paying upfront. I've never had a poor session in my hundreds of trips arriba in Tijuana because I've developed a spidey-sense about the girls. You can tell how they'll be upstairs by how they act downstairs. If they're rushing to seal the deal downstairs, they're going to do so upstairs. They will want you to nut as quickly as possible because then that can get on the next one. I always want to get a drink and interview the girl first. If she drinks her drink in one gulp, I'll move on to another one. Some girls just want to go upstairs and won't get a drink. I will avoid them as well.
Part of the advantage of being a frequent visitor is the girls recognize me, even the ones I haven't been upstairs with. They know if they make my list they'll get future business from me. And unless the girl is fresh of the bus, she'll not ask me for money upfront. And the girls talk among each other guys and there's an informal credit rating of customers (if you treat one bad, they'll all know about it). If you try to rip a girl off, the others will know. If you're unknown you'll be asked for money upfront. Just like people with nothing on their Experian report will not get the best credit card rates or a card at all.
The challenge with HK specifically is there's a huge revolving door of girls there and many of them are there to make maximum money in minimum time. If you set your expectations to this reality, you'll have a good time. If you want a slow unrushed GFE-like session, Hong Kong is not the place. HK girls are going to try and get you to pop just as hard as you're trying hard to make it last. For most of the club girls, they're not going to invest a lot of time in you because there's a strong chance you're not coming back.
(pro-tip: when she asks you where you're from tell her San Diego or Los Angeles, if she asks if it is your first time at the club tell her you come a few times a month, even if you don't. If you're from Chicago and not a frequent visitor she's going to get you off and leave as quickly as possible. If she sees you as a possible repeat she'll treat you better because just like in other sales jobs, hooking a new customer is harder than having a stream of regulars. I know most readers of this forum are not regulars and may never come back to Tijuana even if they have a great time, but you can at least fake it by looking at the pages on ISG.)
I love eating at the Y but I never do it with club girls because there's something of a the thought of going down on a chica who does a cursory splash between sessions so you're tasting lube, ball sweat, saliva, rubbers and god-know-what in addition to her panocha. Also, like kissing, many girls see going downtown as more intimate (save it for their boyfriend) so they're generally don't want it, or will be so not into it, it doesn't seem worth the time when you're running against the clock. When I go down on a girl from the club it will be after we've showered and I've taken time to personally clean her box. And almost always I'm the her first cliente of the night. I also only do it with girls that are into it. I see that 30 minute countdown for a regular session being all about me because I'm paying. Getting her off (or her pretending to get off) is down the list even though in my private life I do get off when she gets off. So I don't expect to give oral or 69 and so I'm not let down when that doesn't happen. But a lot of guys on ISG want that so more power to ya. My point simply was the more you deviate from the wham-bam-thank-you ma'am you are, the more opportunities for disappointment.
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05-27-12 19:55 #2066
Posts: 4Never pay before the session
Originally Posted by Norte [View Original Post]
Better still, just count out the money so that she knows you have it all and then put it back in your wallet. She knows that, if she screams, you're not getting away.
But I usually break the deal altogether. I confess that under those circumstances I like walking out on them. Watch them scramble not to be left behind. That's fun.
And the only time I tried to get a refund from a hotel, the hotel above Adelitas did. There's something to be said for registering a protest with them, if only to try to poison the chica's reputation. In any event, I'd rather drop $25 dollars on the room then $125 on a bad session. It's a cut your losses thing.
But the key is to make accepting payment after sex a condition of your offer (or acceptance) when you're in the bar. In your best Spanish, pronounce the phrase mi condicion. Then say,"Pago después de sexo, no antes." They'll get it.
Remember that these girls need to lower their milage, for both personal and professional reasons, so they're looking for every opportunity to cut the sex acts short. When you pay in advance, and unless you're Brad Pitt, you've just removed their entire motivation for having sex with you.
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05-27-12 18:44 #2065
Posts: 3860Originally Posted by Norte [View Original Post]
NEVER EVER pay a working girl upfront in any country. Sometimes it is unavoidable like at a casa with a mamasan etc. But Tijuana especially is a different animal. Most pfp situations are highly negotiable.
I actually carry a stop watch with me. It sounds somewhat goofy but it works most of the time but not all the time.
I did my first bar girl session this past trip and about 17 minutes into the 30 minute session she stopped doing 69 with me and motioned me that time was closing in. I was out of there in 21 minutes. Not much to do about it except not repeat. If I had gotten mad my pepino would have gone limp.
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05-27-12 18:28 #2064
Posts: 330Money Up Front
Originally Posted by Norte [View Original Post]
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05-27-12 07:49 #2063
Posts: 2Money upfornt
At HK negotiate two pops for one hour but forgot her name When we got to my room at Hotel Cascadas she wanted payment up front. I reluctantly gave her the money up front. She then held each bill up to the light to verify each was not counterfeit. She was a clock-watcher without a wristwatch or cell phone with her. She kept track of time by the TV. She counted down the time left to the end of the session. Would not repeat.
In the back of my mind before the session started, I wanted to ask her to leave when she asked for money up front. Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle the situation next time without problems?
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05-26-12 00:04 #2062
Posts: 4Celeste of Sonora
So tell me, gents, what's the going rate that a top tier will charge a gringo these days? (ps, not the asking price but the actual amount she'll settle for.)
I'm embarrassed to say how much I paid this one, although she had a surprisingly tight wet pussy, which was fun.
And she was sweet enough but she kept asking if I was finished yet, which I found annoying. My guess is that she's new to the biz and needs some good coaching on how to treat the guys she wants to repeat.
But she has potential and a great ass.
With the photo attached, you'll probably need to rotate it your own viewer. ISG's won't recognize preview's changes.
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05-15-12 10:30 #2061
Posts: 158Originally Posted by Dcell75 [View Original Post]
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05-10-12 05:19 #2060
Posts: 43Tuesday 05/01/12 at 8p
OK first day in may and I figured it was the start of summer and I also had some money left over from my be-day. So I hit up Tijuana and the first place I go to is Hong kong. I was hoping to find Carolina or at least Nina. I couldn't find Carolina but Nina was busy again, she seems pretty popular now. Anyways the first girl I did was Erica. I thought she was azul. They both have the same body type, brown skin, long brown hair with blonde highlights and a really big ass. She asked for $70 and $15 for the room. I think she was asking for a tip but I couldn't understand her.
After Erica I rehydrated and at around 930p, I walked around trying to find my next target. This time the target hit me. Her name was Gaby, she looked 30ish with an 80s style hair, I would say C-cup tits and a small ass. I remember her from last time I visited Hong kong. She came up to me last time and I said no then but I figured why not this time. She asked for $60 and $15 for the room. Afterwards I think she was asking if I wanted to go out to eat somewhere but I couldn't understand her and one of her friends was outside the hotel waiting for her. I really wish I could understand spanish because I think both wanted to go out. Oh well.
So after Erica I chilled a little bit in Hong kong. I drank a couple bottles of water. I could see Nina again with other dudes. So around midnight I decided to go with Labir. I think thats how you spell it. Anyways she was the MILF type, well into her 30s but with big tits and big ass. She asked for $80 and $15 for the room again. After Labir, as I was walking down the steps of the hotel, I saw Nina waiting in the lobby with some other dude trying to pay for the hotel room. We gave each other a little wink as I said adios. A cab drive back to the border and another long drive home. Its funny that the drive going to Tijuana always seems faster then the drive coming home from Tijuana.
Anyways so that was my adventure in Tijuana. It's summer time right now and it's the best time to go. I really hope my friend is able to get his passport so that he could go and also my cousin is back from out of state so maybe ill bring him along one of these days. On 5/15 diablo 3 is coming out and its a game I've been waiting for 10yrs. I know I'm going to be playing that alot so hopefully ill make time to see the beautiful girls in Tijuana.
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05-08-12 04:57 #2059
Posts: 114Friday 5/4
Went hk it was packed around midnite had a few beers, there where one or 2 that caught my fancy but they where with regulars so I left and went adelitas.
Some pretty hot chicks there, asked one here rate she said 60 $ and I offerd 600 pesos she said 800 or 60 $ so I passed, hit up another one and got the same answer so I left, pickup up a cute SW for 200 pesos and 3 $ hotel fee, much better choice.
Woke up with hang over.
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05-06-12 11:45 #2058
Posts: 775Originally Posted by Tomjackin [View Original Post]
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05-06-12 05:59 #2057
Posts: 507Originally Posted by Tomjackin [View Original Post]
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05-06-12 01:34 #2056
Posts: 2707Titty Fight!
Just a regular night in HK, when all of a sudden, a titty fight broke out; the bully on the right won hands down. But I did console the one on the left shortly thereafter.
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05-04-12 18:08 #2055
Posts: 114Originally Posted by Uncle Al [View Original Post]
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05-04-12 06:28 #2054
Posts: 43Originally Posted by HorseTrader [View Original Post]