Puerto Plata

[Jaosousa]

I know of no city called Gasper Hernandez in the DR, (Gaspar Hernández is the correct spelling.)

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[Jaosousa]

I know of no city called Gasper Hernandez in the DR, (Gaspar Hernández is the correct spelling.)

The Dominicans who are from Gasper Hernandez and operate the Gasperense Digital Periodical, http://www.gasparense.com/ Don't put an an accent mark over the a in Hernandez on their website. If you could find find me an online periodical for the misspelled jasper hernandez and santa domingo, I'd like to see it.

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[Xpartan]

I think it's kinda blown out of proportions. While the tone of this newsletter is unwise and confrontational, I believe the issue that BB owners have is that some guys mix their drinks in the room and bring them down to the bar or invite other mongers for some "indoor" parties, thus cutting in on their profits. I seriously doubt that anyone who drinks quietly in his room would actually have any problem or we sure as hell would've heard about it by now.

Ban on outside alcohol is not unheard of in travel industry. Think about cruise ships. And they do get to sell you alcohol at outrageous prices. BB's prices are reasonable.

I would never EVER bring alcohol down to the bar. When I eat or drink at a bar, I buy drinks at a bar. This is beyond cheap and just a bad form any which way you look at it. BB are totally within their rights to be pissed. However, having said that, if I was a guest at BB, I would absolutely not abide by this ridiculous "one bottle" policy. I enjoy drinking inside whether alone or with chicas. So if they told me to take my business elsewhere next time, I would. It's simple as that.

My buddy and I made a short trip to BB yesterday. My impressions are mixed. Here are my first time observations if anyone is interested.

1. It's a small hotel in the middle of nowhere. Chica line up was fantastic. Chicas were plentiful, and there was huge variety.

2. We watched the bikini contest, then ate in their restaurant and it was reasonable. The food was not bad, either.

3. They didn't have a room at first. I found a chica I wanted to take for a BJ to a Jacuzzi. Refused. Registered guests only.

4. Eventually a guest checked out and the manager found me a room, but he would charge us $50 for two hours. So I guess ST for the room for one person has gone up from reported $20 to $25. Since we were horny as hell we paid the fee, but we did feel we were taken advantage of. Yes it was a double, but $50 for a 2 hr room is still excessive.

5. Playing with a chica in the Jacuzzi before the main course was a lot of fun, though.

6. They did charge me 35 pesos afterwards for a bottle of water I consumed in the room. In all honesty if it was me, in the very least I would've waived the water for the guests who bought two contest tickets, ate at my restaurant and paid $50 for the room which otherwise would've remained empty. But again, it wasn't me and they certainly have the right to charge for the things they sell.

7. Regardless of my mixed emotions, I had the impression they're running a tight ship, and maybe being "all about business" is not such a bad thing. Perhaps, it is the only way to do business in DR.

8. I would not stat there for longer than 3-4 days. Chicas or no chicas I would get bored to death. But for 3-4 days stay I certainly wouldn't hesitate.

[John from NJ]

BB's has two bars and expects to make a profit from them. I understand this and have no problem buying their reasonable priced beers during the day and drinks at night. I like to party with the chicas and run up a large bar bill by the end of the night. BBs also doesn't want the New Garden party scenes where crews sit around the pool with a couple liters of booze and mixers and then have the nerve to ask the bar for ice. Limiting outside booze also allows them to control a person's consumption keeping obnoxious sloppy mean drunks to a minimum. All this I understand and have no problem with.

I have a plane ticket for June 12th and was thinking about returning to BBs for a week. My problem is once the bars close at midnight / 1am I like to have a couple of drinks with my date in the privacy of my room. Last trip I had a bottle of duty free scotch and had no problems. If BB is truly customer orientated they will continue to separately enforce the rule. If not what are my options? Buy a ¾ liter bottle of Johnny Walker from the bar? Don't think so. I would rather spend the $40+ on a duty free liter of a SPECIAL single malt scotch. Something they don't serve at the bar. Of course there is always option of going back to Sosua. We'll see. Who knows maybe I'm one of the 'boneheads' they don't want.

[Frannie]

You can name call me all you want. I find it strange that a guy's first visible post is a negative post about SantO Domingo (notice the spelling, I know of no city called santa domingo in the DR) and a shill for the north coast (Gasper Hernandez is the correct spelling).

I know of no city called Gasper Hernandez in the DR, (Gaspar Hernández is the correct spelling.)

[Jaosousa]

The Windex Man: Let me begin by saying, that my " Position " on this mutual " Long-Standing " problem with Jao could be characterized as " Down-Right-Seedy."

Long standing? Your first visible post was posted on April 26, 2012, about 10 days ago. I responded politely asking for more information. I responded today, twice to your most recent post here. That is the extent of my interaction with you. No PMs, no emails. I feel my three responses to your posts have been mostly polite, not seedy.

I know of one ISG member who posts using two different names, without informing other members of that fact. Do you have another name that you post under or have posted under on the ISG?

Regarding GBP and other matters that pertain to Santo Domingo, I will post a response in the Santo Domingo forum.

If you have ever posted a trip report, or given another member advice, or posted a photo on this site, could you post the links.

Again, thank you.

[Jaosousa]

The Windex Man: Let me begin by saying, that my " Position " on this mutual " Long-Standing " problem with Jao could be characterized as " Down-Right-Seedy." I believe the reason Jao is " Pissed-Off " with Black Beard (and other mongering venues on the North Coast) is because the North Coast clubs / venues do not comp or " Rank-Him " the way his favorite Santa Domingo club GBP does (concentrated, obnoxious, unkempt, musky odor present throughout the club) for his " Second-Rated-Promotions on the ISG DR forums! Finally, as for the " Unsolicited-Childish-Posts " that we all have to put up with, I strongly suspect " Infantile-Regression-Syndrome " that is usually associated with " Old-Age!" Over & Out Gentlemen!

High-Class!

However, based on my recent experience at GPB (couldn't get past the strong musky / unwashed body odor / smell in the bar / by the way, I'm combat veteran ). I also do not recommend the once " venerated " Club 305 (management can no longer be trusted / beware of the bartender / high priced girlie drinks / only worn out, hardened pros / no semi-pros are working or rotating out of there now ). Thankfully, my experience at Satin Dolls (Angie / of Japanese descent) averted a 3 day weekend bust! I've pursued this " hobby " all over the world in the last 30 years and in the last four years primarily on the North Coast here in DR. In my " humble " opinion, the Santa Domingo " Casa Experience " is on the decline and only " highlights " the DR North Coast experience / Puerto Plata / Sosua / Santiago / Jasper Hernandez etc! Over & Out Gentlemen!

High-Class!

For some reason when I do a search of your prior posts, the result shows only one post.

I don't care where anyone mongers. This is the International Sex Guide, not the international prostitution guide.

If you have more fun on the north coast, then stay on the north coast. I did 10 trips or more to sosua and puerto plata. Seems you may have done one 3 day trip to santo domingo and based on those 3 days you make the assertion that the north coast is better than santo domingo (Santiago is not considered the north coast). If I thought mongering was better on the north coast, I would travel there. I have no plans to re-visit Sosua or Puerto Plata (I saw nothing spectacular in Gasper Hernandez) and doubt I will ever spend much time in those places in the future. I will return to samana, which is on the north coast of the DR.

I appreciate your report and your opinions. I am always open to changing my mind about mongering destinations. If you could provide more detailed info on the north coast regarding p4p, semi-pros, non-pros, venues, bars, discos, hotels, prices and other places of interest with photos, it would be useful.

Thank you.

You can name call me all you want. I find it strange that a guy's first visible post is a negative post about SantO Domingo (notice the spelling, I know of no city called santa domingo in the DR) and a shill for the north coast (Gasper Hernandez is the correct spelling).

Since I politely asked you for further information about mongering on the places you mentioned, you have written several other posts, without responding to my post with actual, useful information. I guess I will never get a response from you as to why you wrote what you wrote regarding the north coast. I get comped in the DR? You and Frannie can go have drinks together with that BS. Santo Domingo has over 10 p4p venues, freelancers, SWs, semi-pros and non-pros. If you want to state the north coast is better, without backing up your statement then you are writing BS or possibly working for some north coast establishment trying to drum up business.

Again I thank you for your contributions to board.

[Jaosousa]

As always Jao, thanks for the valuable info that you bring to the forum.

Thank you. And thank you for your 37 posts on the ISG.

As I said before, I only spent 15 minutes at blackbeards. Seems maybe you have spent more time there, so maybe you can answer some questions about the place (within the last two weeks I recommended blackbeards to ISG member Score77 as a place to visit with his friends and I have recommended it other times. I made those recommendations before I knew about blackbeards Unique alcohol policy. Why would I recommend a place I allegedly despise to a friend? I am sure you have been busy with all your fine ass chicas, working on your second nut, so no time to read all of my posts).

ISG member Bliadun recently posted an excerpt from the Blackbeards newsletter written by the owner of Blackbeards;

For the 98% of our Pirates who don't break the rules. Please ignore this reminder. And we apologize for the boneheads. That just don't freakin' get it!

Is it accepted, normal operating procedure at Blackbeards that the captain (the owner) calls some of his clients Boneheads who don't freakin get it? (BTW I believe you alleged that I called or stated that guys who go to the north coast as morons, could you please refer me to those posts, so that I can correct them, I don't recall calling anyone on this site a moron).

One last question, because I know you must be a busy guy with so many fine ass chicas. I enjoy the Pirates of the Caribbean movies made by Disney. I have not been to Disneyland in over 20 years (maybe they have a Pirates theme ride or part of the park). My question is, could I kill two birds with one stone and save money by visiting the Blackbeards hotel in puerto plata and still get that pirate atmosphere I might find at a Disney park (paper pirate hats, fake eye patches, plastic pirate swords)? The owner of blackbeards in puerto plata calls himself captain and calls clients of his hotel pirates and the prostitutes who work there as shipmates.

The original Blackbeard pirate was a ruthless Englishman named Edward Teach.

Thanks for your time and your immense wisdom.

[Jaosousa]

What is the deal with Jaosousa's constant negative comments? Am I missing something? Is he actually the mayor of Santo Domingo.

Loathsome, despicable and stinky, that's me. The sweet innocent blackbeards pro would be obligated to sleep with me if I chose her. At least the Sosua freelancer has freedom to choose, she can walk away from me if she wanted.

Could you refer me to your trip reports and the photos that you have posted on this site (have you actually ever posted a trip report or a photo on this site?). If you want to take the side of a hotel owner who has a unique policy that helps maximize his profits, rather than take the side of the average monger at that hotel who loses money because of that policy, that is your choice.

Your post is littered with inaccuracies and misconceptions which one day, I might respond to one by one.

Drinking is what some people do when they are on vacation. A hotel that caters to people on vacation should understand that. If it troubles you that some people drink alcohol while on vacation and your suggestion that alcoholics anonymous might be required, I would respond that your negative viewpoint of people who might like to drink alcohol at some particular time of the day, would fit right in with how some Taliban would view the subject. And at 4am in Santo Domingo after having been with fine ass chicas, sometimes all I want is a drink (I have posted trip reports).

Windex Man, I like that name, it reminds me to bring windex wipes for the rental car in the DR.

Regarding negative posts, I could point out numerous negative posts, where afterwards you wrote nothing.

[Ath Trainer]

As far as "enough is enough", I disagree. If there is interest in the topic, then keep writing about it. Since it's not the same members posting the same info over and over, it seems to be a topic worth discussing.

As far as BB's rules,"there's a method to their madness". Look at it from BB's point of view. Why would a establishment who is trying to make money have a rule that is different from the rest of their business profile, if it wasn't for a good reason? Why would BB make a outspoken statement on their newsletter, which is made to solicit customers, if it wasn't important to them?

They don't seem to be obnoxious about the enforcement of the rule. Don't show up at registration with a case of Budwiser. Don't put a sign on your door saying "Free booze here". Don't pile empty bottles of vodka outside your room. Put your bottles in your bag when you are not entertaining. Don't flaunt your room booze at the bar.

Play the game, and you should have nothing to whine about.

[Tempoecorto]

I'the like to apologize for not using quotation marks, but this was an unaltered quote from BB newsletter.

I need to apologize to you. I got carried away. Sorry!

[The Windex Man]

What is the deal with Jaosousa's constant negative comments? Am I missing something? Is he actually the mayor of Santo Domingo.

On one hand, this guy singlehandedly made sure that I had the best time possible when I visited Santo Domingo. The information that he passed in that forum was invaluable and I was very thankful with the information he provided. I even recommended to friends that when visiting the forum, check out the stuff this guy says.

On the other hand, Jaosousa seems to go out of his way to not only continually insult the North Coast (Puerto Plata / Sosua) , but also insult the people who enjoy the place. Guess what Jao, everyone does not have the same tastes. That's life and I don't get why you go out of your way to make sure people understand that you are always right and anyone who thinks the North Coast is better (FOR THEM) is a moron. Your constant jabs at people who like the area more is ridiculous and I would have expected your response to be "to each their own", versus comments like "maybe guys who enjoy BB are guys who like to be reminded of being at home with mommie and daddy and sneak some of the family's liquor." WTF?

You then imply the place is childish because it has rules and regulations that you don't agree with. Guess what, smart guy? Most hotels have rules and regulations, some we agree with; others we don't. Some charge a fee to bring a chick in; some don't let you bring a chica in at all for instance. You look at the rules and decide if you agree or disagree. It doesn't mean that a person is an idiot or childish or anything else if they decide to stay at Blackbeards and I've been to what you called a "shit-hole" Boca-Chica, you enjoy yourself there. I had a much better time at BB's.

Now to other points:

When it was mentioned that BB offered $55 clean rooms (which is not considered gouging) , your response was to mention that you can provide a list of hotels that are less than $55. SO WHAT? The question concerned gouging and your list of lower priced hotel room still does not take away from the fact that a $55 a night room is not gouging.

When it was mentioned that BB had beers at 90 pesos, your response was that you knew places where beer was sold at a less price. Again, SO WHAT? The question concerned gouging and 90 pesos for a beer is not gouging. You seem to think that all the businesses and bars in DR agreed on a standard price on alcohol and BB doubled / tripled the price and went above it. I paid more than 90 pesos when I visited a few of those casas in Santo Domingo. Did I think gouging? No, it's common practice that a restaurant or a bar will charge more then say a grocery store and they each have their own prices. You pay it or you don't.

Let me guess, if someone also likes the fact that there is a non-negotiable good price of only $45 for 2 hours with a chica at BB, your response will be that you know plenty of places where you can get pussy for 5 bucks and a can of beer. Again, just because it can be had cheaper, this does not mean that BB is price gouging. A price was set and it's a good price.

Fair / Good pricing is considered okay in my book when on a vacation. Before I did DR, I did Cancun Mexico. Not okay with those prices at all and will never go back.

You try to put down BB again by saying that at least in Sosua, they have more of a choice of who to sleep with versus BB where they pretty much have to sleep with anyone,"no matter how despicable." Are you just reaching for anything at this point? You know as well as anyone that when it comes to casa style ho houses, chicas for the most part will sleep with anyone coming through the door whereas freelancers can be more choosy because they don't have management over them. For the most part (not saying 100%) , this is the same no matter where you go. Those casas in SD were the same. The freelancers on the street can walk right by you and not say a word if they want to, but whenever I visited those casas, those chicks ran up on dudes whether they were Brad Pitts or Patrick Ewings or even Chad Bonos. Guaranteed anyone picked would have slept with him.

Someone says that there are plenty of girls there that anyone would like. Your response is another put down, trying to say that you have yet to see any 9 or 10 there, then the extra jab by saying that you don't even recall a 8. Totally disagree. I get the newsletter evry month and me and a few buddies (who also get it) talk about the fine chocolate honies over there and who we are going to get with on our next visits. Hey, it's all a matter of taste. One man's 7 is another man's 10 and vice versa, but you can't tell a man's taste is incorrect just because you have different tastes. Some guys think Haitian women are highly attractive and I haven't slept with one because my taste is different. Do I put that man down or say that he is wrong to call them beautiful? Hell no, I'm just glad he's having a good time.

Overall, I just wish his North Coast versus South coast DR bullshit will stop. Reminds me of the stupidity of the east coast versus West coast rap music wars in the US in the 1990s. Your point has been realized a long time Jao, you despise this area and as been mentioned by another member, no need to keep ramming it down this forum's throats. If the worst thing about BB's is that you maybe cannot have a drink at 4am after already drinking all night, then (1) stay your ass somewhere else. Won't miss you. More chica options for me or (2) seek your nearest AA (alcoholic anonymous) chapter because ya might need some help. While you're crying about not having a drink at 4am, I'll be working on my second nut with a fine ass chica in my bedroom.

Just my opinion on this. I'll be in my favorite area of DR end of June for 5 days at BB, then on to the main event Sosua for another 8. Highly looking forward to it!

As always Jao, thanks for the valuable info that you bring to the forum (outside of bashing Puerto Plata). On this subject we absolutely agree to disagree.

[Kc Talent]

I have stayed all over the DR in the past 8 years and have 35+ trips under my belt. 20+ of my visits have been at BB's. When I first started going to BB's the NO outside booze was a policy that was not enforced very often. That changed quickly when guests were showing up with cases of beer and hard liquor and openly partying in and out of their room. They drew a lot of negative attention to themselves and created a less than wonderful experience for many of us. I have seen times when 2 guests would check into one of the suites and all of a sudden there were 4-6 guests staying in the room. There were groups of people that were so drunk, loud and abusive to everyone it was very uncomfortable. Every Hotel has rules. If you do not like the rules at the Hotel don't stay there. There are always numerous options in the DR.

Say what you want about BB's but they must be doing something right as their rates have stayed the same for at least 6 years and their over all quality of service, facilities and food has increased on each of my visits. There is always some part of the Hotel that is being updated. While BB's may not be for everyone (just like every other Hotel) they do offer a consistent product at reasonable and affordable rates. Just my opinion. I will be returning in July for 7 days and look forward to catching up with old friends.

Ok, we should be finished with this subject which has gone on for days. I see both points. The policy is in place by the hotel for reasons but I don't think they are looking in bags we bring in or hunting for booze. I think the statement they make at the end of the news letter was somewhat not called for telling guess to take their business elsewhere but WTF. I have made 2-3 day stays at BB's during most of my DR trips the past 4 years as my last stop to relax before returning back to the states. No hotel or resort is perfect. BB's does a good job and no they have not raise the rates in years but why would they? I pay about the same at BB's that I pay at NG which also sell booze and don't care what you bring and we all know NG has better rooms than BB's but like I said I go to BB's to relax no other hotel like it no need for hunting, cold beer, good food, variety of chicas, Nice Quite Nights. To that end, I too plan to be back at BB's the end of June and will have 2 bottles of fine import wine for my OWN personal use not sold at the bar and I'm sure they will not say anything.

[Jaosousa]

BB's charges $55. For a spotless room and 90 pesos for a beer, not exactly what I would call gouging it's clients or a pig of a business. The fact that they are constantly booked solid and 90% of it is repeat customers speaks for itself. Everybody on this board knows that you have a hair across your ass in respects to the north coast so no need to keep shoving it down our throats.

Clean rooms for $55US (I can give you a list of chica friendly hotels in the DR priced at $55US or less, that allow clients to bring in their own liquor). I have recommended Blackbeard to people in the past. I did not know about the no outside alcohol policy, till yesterday. The tone of language used in the Blackbeards newsletter is obnoxious and their no outside alcohol policy is BS. Not allowing clients to consume alcohol bought off premises and making clients buy only alcohol from Blackbeards is a form of gouging.

Since you are an expert on blackbeards and the northcoast, if a guy staying at blackbeards wants alcohol at 4am, are the bars at blackbeards open 24/7? If the bars at blackbeards are not open 24/7, would a guy have to pay an expensive costambar taxi to take him to another location for a drink? (all because blackbeard's owner says no outside alcohol in their rooms).

Please, I am all ears, maybe I am missing something here. There have been nights in the DR where I drank alcohol till 7am and then went to sleep. I have been out with other ISG members where I paid the bar tab of $300US for a night's drinking. I don't mind spending money on alcohol at a venue. There is no way, I will spend time at a hotel that tells me I can't drink alcohol that I bought at duty free (I don't care where the hotel is located, if a santo domingo hotel had the same policy as blackbeards I would be against that santo domingo hotel).

If I am naked with some woman in bed and I want to have a drink in my room at 4am, I should be able to crack open a bottle of liquor I bought at the airport.

I've pursued this " hobby " all over the world in the last 30 years and in the last four years primarily on the North Coast here in DR. In my " humble " opinion, the Santa Domingo " Casa Experience " is on the decline and only " highlights " the DR North Coast experience / Puerto Plata / Sosua / Santiago / Jasper Hernandez etc! Over & Out Gentlemen!

High-Class!

HighClassDrifter wrote this in the santo domingo forum (not the santa domingo forum) after he allegedly spent three days in santo domingo. I asked him politely for further information about why he believes that the north coast is better for mongering and he never responded.

Maybe you and the owner of Blackbeards can open a branch in Cartagena, Colombia, where you can get not so great looking high mileage pros to ask for $800US dollars for TLN (and then not call it gouging).

90 pesos for a small bottle of beer is no great bargain. In some local places in the DR I can get a Large bottle of presidente cerveza for 75-100 pesos. I hope the owner of blackbeards gives you a kick-back or some freebies for defending their non-consumer friendly policy (no outside liquor).

You state Blackbeards has a loyal clientele, does that mean all their policies are correct and good? And again I will ask, if blackbeards has such a loyal and faithful clientele why does blackbeards have to nickle and dime over alcohol? Maybe you can tell me the name of another hotel on the planet earth that prohibits clients from drinking alcohol in their rooms, that was bought outside that particular hotel. The owner of blackbeards is an American guy, from what I have read. I wonder if your opinion regarding their hotel policies would be different it blackbeards was owned by a Dominican.

[Traveler04]

I have stayed all over the DR in the past 8 years and have 35+ trips under my belt. 20+ of my visits have been at BB's. When I first started going to BB's the NO outside booze was a policy that was not enforced very often. That changed quickly when guests were showing up with cases of beer and hard liquor and openly partying in and out of their room. They drew a lot of negative attention to themselves and created a less than wonderful experience for many of us. I have seen times when 2 guests would check into one of the suites and all of a sudden there were 4-6 guests staying in the room. There were groups of people that were so drunk, loud and abusive to everyone it was very uncomfortable. Every Hotel has rules. If you do not like the rules at the Hotel don't stay there. There are always numerous options in the DR.

Say what you want about BB's but they must be doing something right as their rates have stayed the same for at least 6 years and their over all quality of service, facilities and food has increased on each of my visits. There is always some part of the Hotel that is being updated. While BB's may not be for everyone (just like every other Hotel) they do offer a consistent product at reasonable and affordable rates. Just my opinion. I will be returning in July for 7 days and look forward to catching up with old friends.