Nogales

[Ragman]

To Phil Dirt :

>>I plan on arriving in Nogales around 600 PM on a friday night.

The 2 to 3 hour agenda you have mapped out will have you leaving Nogales about the time things are starting to wake up. This is a transition time between the snowbird/tourist/just looking clientele and the serious punter. I'm guessing you have a commitment Saturday morning for which you must be rested, SNF.

>>I will park at the lot near Mcdonalds $4 and walk across the border equipped with my own condoms.

For the time period you are talking about, park on the street and save the $4. As an aside, the duty free shop is open until 1900 for a $16 carton of American cigarettes and a $15 liter of Baileys Irish Cream.

>>Hail a cab and proceeed to La Conga $5.00.

IMO, the walk to La Conga is a cultural experience not to be missed by the infrequent Mexico visitor.

>>Have a beer $7

They also sell cola and water and such. Us "viejos" have our beer afterwards. If I have to tell you why, you'll just hope you never get old. If you already understand, you'll do the best you can with what you've got.

>>... and check out the talent.

The price for that is the infamous "ficha" drink. $7 for a small glass of orange juice or bottle of beer. She gets a coupon good for $3. Remember, unless you are a regular, they are as much checking out you as you are them. They get a lot of guys that only want free gropes. It wastes their time and more importantly, for them, makes them unavailable when a real punter comes in.

And you do want the pretty one that everybody else wants, don't you?

Everybody has different wants and needs. Something that I do with a new girl I have not been with yet is buy a drink and ask for a dollar or two in quarters for the juke box. I give her the quarters and tell her "para bailar" (buy-lar) 'to dance'. A couple of slow dances rubbing bodies together will tell you if she is the right one.

>>Book with the one I find most attractive $50 for her and $15 for the room and $2 tip for staff.

That is the 30 minute or until you cum (whichever comes first) rate. They have 2 small closets and 2 larger closets just off the dance floor. They all have 6 foot cots. If you are looking for a full size bedroom with a queen size mattress set, they are behind the bar and are usually for one hour or more.

>>Upon completion hail a cab and proceed to Obsessions $5.
>>Totals $83 and about an hour.

So far, so good.

>>At Obsessions I will enter $3 and tip the door dude $2. Have a beer $3 and tip the waiter $1.

The cover charge usually includes a free 'house beer' (Tecate, Dos Equis, Sol).

>>Try 2 public lap dances at $10 each.

To each his own.

>>Get a "privado" $40 for the lady and $22 for the closet.

That is a covered BJ for 12 minutes. IMO, most girls only do that to tease you into wanting the full sex at $80 and for some guys you need extra time in the closet. Think now, with your head, what it is going to take to satisfy you. Obsessions has a full size bedroom for $165, all inclusive. Think about it now rather than after 10 minutes in the closet.

>>Totals $91 and about an hour.
>>Walk the two blocks back to the border and head to Tucson.

Ragman

[Ragman]

"the giant naked man", otherwise known as the Monument to Juarez, can be seen here >> http://www.municipiodenogales.org/ <<.

Ragman

[Jester]

I just found out where the street workers are in Nogales, they come out after midnight. The best place to find them is on Obregon Ave past the giant naked man statue.

There are some really sexy ladies there.

[Phil Dirt]

I will be traveling to Tucson next month and plan on visiting Nogales. I studied this board and prepared a tentative pooning agenda and budget. I would appreciate any suggestions the nogales veterans may have.

I plan on arriving in Nogales around 600 PM on a friday night. I will park at the lot near Mcdonalds $4 and walk across the border equipped with my own condoms. Hail a cab and proceeed to La Conga $5.00. Have a beer $7 and check out the talent. Book with the one I find most attractive $50 for her and $15 for the room and $2 tip for staff. Upon completion hail a cab and proceed to Obsessions $5.
Totals $83 and about an hour.

At Obsessions I will enter $3 and tip the door dude $2. Have a beer $3 and tip the waiter $1. Try 2 public lap dances at $10 each. Get a "privado" $40 for the lady and $22 for the closet. Totals $91 and about an hour.

Walk the two blocks back to the border and head to Tucson.

I welcome any and all suggestions

[Joe Blow]

Thanks Ragman - I appreciate it!

[Ragman]

I'll ask this weekend to be sure but I think access will be the same way you would re-enter the U.S., through the building. I think I remember seeing baby carriages go that route.

On the west side there are only 2 TD clubs, Rio's and Obsession's. Rio's is upstairs and that alone should eliminate it. Obsession's is on the street level. Just as important is that their full size bedroom is also on street level.

The last time I checked, a couple of months ago, the rate was $165 for thirty minutes, all inclusive. Some people enjoy the art of haggling, some don't. Some guys can get their nut off in those closets, some can't. Some girls will tell you about the bedroom, some won't. IMO, if you think your friend will want or need 30 minutes, do the math. About $20 for about 12 minutes times 2 or 3 plus the girl's service fee. You come very close to the bedroom price and have not even factored in the value of having a full size bed (futon in Obsession's case). Hell, the bathroom in that room is the same size as those closets.

To get to Obsession's just go straight west on International Street (follow the fence). You'll see it on your left as the first door up Calle Juarez, 1 block before Calle Obregon. It does have 2 steps to raise it from the sidewalk and the floods when it rains. There is no ramp, so your friend will need a little help.

Obsession's is closed Sunday and Monday.


Ragman

[Joe Blow]

Question regarding wheelchair access -

I have been to Nogi many times, but a friend of mine in a wheelchair wanted to know about wheelchair access, and I couldn't remember! Must have been the Margaritas!

Anyway, I asusme that there is another way across other than that spinning gate at the border? Also, once he's there, the places that are on the second floor are out, but Cheri's would work. Although the closets are pretty damn small. Last time I was there I went upstairs at Cheri's to a much bigger room, but they probably don't have an elevator.

So any suggesstions? Unless he wants to take his van down there, he can't take a cab further into town, so my thinking is the clubs to the West are the only options, but I don't know which ones he could make it to.

Anyone want to help a horny guy in a wheelchair out? TIA

[Wild Wind]

i mostly enjoy l/s nipples and getting bj's in nogales, so the chair thing in the small rooms works just fine for me. some of the little rooms are bigger than others. for instance room #1 (on the far left) in cherry's is bigger than the others and a bit more comfortable. and some girls will agreee to give bbbj once you have made it clear to them that you don't want fs.

i've travelled all over the us and been in over 100 strip clubs looking for the kind of action i like. and its hard to find other than houston, north miami and a few rep001tered spots here and there. and if you can get it, its generally a lot more expensive than nogi. so i'm happy with nogi as an alternative to almost any us scene. i did do tj once on a trip to san diego and had some fun. i'll plan on trying it some more.

off topic, but barcelona brothels are great! and reasonable.

[Flying Sky]

Ed,

Great report.

[Ed...]

That's the plan. Of course, there are all kinds of powerful forces working against us in that goal. Most strip clubs do have a larger room with bed, just ask. The dollar thing gets high for the short time, but if you consider no bar fine and no hotel cost, and your only there to drink a few and bust a nut or two, it may not be all bad. Room cost is 50.00 to 65.00, but you can get pitched quite higher. Always negociate with the girl only for her services.
Street girls and "regular" bar girl prices range wildly of course, but $50.00 is the highest I go. 40.00 is more common, and twenty is happily accepted by some. (I like the tad bit older ones sometimes). There are always the nickle and dime expenses too. Everyone has there hand out, but just look at the babe your bangin! Last time in BoraBora was early summer, she wanted 50 for two hours. I gave her forty and promised ten when finished. We were only in the room less than an hour for two good pops and I gave her the ten and a hasta pronto. She came back a few hours later, I had just returned and was trying to sleep, she went down to twenty and then TEN bucks to do her again, but I just couldnt. If I could just show that indifference when horny!

[Jester]

To SunDevil,

I just go for the hotel then the small closet rooms. A hotel of course gives you more room to move around.

I tried the closet rooms once and it was very limiting.

BTW, if your plan on spending the night in Nogi, then wait till the bar closes to take the girl out, that way you don't have to pay the bar fee.

[Sun Devil]

The way I see, then, is that the best way to go about getting a girl in Nogales is to find her, bar fine her (hopefully for $120 pesos to $500 pesos), take her to your hotel room, and have sex with her all night long. In addition to the bar fine, the only cost one would have is the fee that you pay to the girl. Is this how it works?

Like I said before, unless they start expanding the size of those closets in the strip joints, I will not partake in the mongering scene in Nogales. But, if this system that you guys just mentioned is applicable to the girls in the strip joints, maybe I will be visiting this city soon.

[Flying Sky]

Ed,

Thanks for your info.

How much did you pay for the hotel date with Bora Bora girl?

Thanks again.

[Mugroso]

I have only been to Nogi once, so take what I have to say for what it is worth.

Nogi is much more expensive overall than Juarez. In Juarez I can wander in from bar to bar with no problem till I see something I like. In Nogi every place has a cover but at least it includes a beverage of choice.

The girls in Nogi are much more beautiful than Juarez. Even the fat chicks were cute. In Juarez the chicas bigger fischa hounds than Nogi. In Nogi a chica sat with me for up to half an hour on my lap rubbing me up and down. I kept telling her I don't buy fischas and no waiter bothered us. Except for tickets.

Not sure what the permiso in Nogi is but in Juarez it ranges from 120 to 500 pesos.

In Juarez I can wander from bar to bar with no problem. In Nogi all the places I went to had cover charges but at least it included a beverage.

Nogi had these closets that made me feel like I was in a porno store movie booth. The rooms are much better in Juarez.

That is how I compare the two places. Each has their own appeal. I prefer Juarez because I live in El Paso. But if I lived as far away as Phoenix I would be down every weekend looking for loop holes in the negative aspects. I am sure with familiarity I would like the two equally.

[Ed...]

No table dances or extras in Bora Bora, it's more of a regular type bar. Apparently it is popular at this time with girls (most likely passing through) looking for outside dates.
Nogales has most sex tourist business from the strip clubs with little chairs in high priced rooms. One (and only) new massage place, unlike Juarez with bunches, and one (basically) small brothel not even close to TJ level. You can and should score hotel dates in this town. Hasn't changed remarkably over the last couple years as far as that goes.