Kyiv

[PedroToronja]

You don't need to give us your CV here, but to get an idea how you do " Bring Girls from Other Cities for free ", can you briefly give us an idea about yourself, like age group, color, looks, languages spoken etc.

And secondly, what age group are these girls, are they as hot as the p4p Girls in Kiev that charge to Shag them.

Then we know what you are talking about.

Girls 21 to 27, 7 to 9. Very hot with the added benefit of not being cold bitches.

[PedroToronja]

You don't need to give us your CV here, but to get an idea how you do " Bring Girls from Other Cities for free ", can you briefly give us an idea about yourself, like age group, color, looks, languages spoken etc.

And secondly, what age group are these girls, are they as hot as the p4p Girls in Kiev that charge to Shag them.

Then we know what you are talking about.

62, white, English only, not fat, not tall, have full hair head, I have money but not millonaire.

Girls were all from Mamba and SeekingArrangement They are 'civilians', not pros.

[LachieDog]

Guys, been slowly reading through all the great reports all you lads have put up. Top class stuff, expecially interesting was the advise from latexian and barba. I like the approach where you go to the provinces, meet the girls and later set up a meeting in Kiev or elsewhere.

Well, my own introduction to ukranian girls was a litle different. I met a girl online on a dating website. She was from Donetsk. We talked a bit and we really hit it off. She told me she was going to have her holidays and wanted to meet up. I was fine with that but I told her I wasn't sure about travelling to Donetsk. I had never been to ukraine and I wasn't sure if the girl was going to pan out so I proposed meeting in Bangkok instead. She agreed and thus ensued an awesome five day holiday of great sex and fun companionship. I was hooked;

So I've been to ukraine twice since than. Always meet her for a couple of days and try to monger the other. I'm flying in on the 28th and heading straight to Vinnitsa. Have two girls lined up there, they seem to be into me but we'll have to see how things pan out. I am a little worried. The last time I was in donetsk and even with my girl I was bored to death in that town; Kiev is much better. Honestly.

So after vinnitsa, I head in to Kiev and would love to go hunting with anyone else who need a wingman. Seriously, its nice to be able to speak in english once in a while.

What dating site would that be. I see so many spam mails and adverts that it would be difficult to find a genuine site. It was a fantastic idea you had and neutral territory is always a good choice. I would love to do the same and it would save a visa hassle and a flight to Europe for me. I lived for a while in Latvia, many beauitiful women there so I can only imagine what the Ukraine has to offer. I really should try to get over there.

[Prosal]

I am sure this sounds a bit unsophisticated to some members here, and I can assure you that it is. If you can control your trained impulses to treat the female as an equal, and avoid to try to impress her by being polite, civil and intellectual, It is a simple theater where the man just have to tilt towards old fashioned male domination

+1. With a slavic girl you NEED to be manly, direct and uncompromising That said, you ALSO need empathy, sentimentality and sensitivity at the right moments. Slavic women are very emotional and passionate. Don't ignore these aspects. What works the best is being able to switch from bad boy to sentimental guy and vice-versa.

You also need witt and intelligence. They are (especially Russians, who are IMO smarter and more witty than Ukrainians) usually great conversationalists, and being able to talk to a guy is important to them.

[Member #4491]

Yes, IrishLad, little by little I am learning also how this place works.

I realized and fully understood to not try to qualify European style for females outside Europe some years ago, but Ukraine is a new level, if compared to for example naive Asia or romantic South America. A woman likes a man who knows what he wants everywhere, not only in enslaved poor Russian backwaters, but the pattern for qualifying (yes we are actually still qualifying, but just in another way) are more macho here. Determination is the name of the game. A bit like an old cinema male hero stereotype, that enters the stage in his latest designer rags, and picks his dumb ass trophy female with some one liners. The trophy hoe is basically looking for very simple and blunt evidence that this gorilla is a winner. Display these, and you are qualified to shoot your cum in her. I am sure this sounds a bit unsophisticated to some members here, and I can assure you that it is. If you can control your trained impulses to treat the female as an equal, and avoid to try to impress her by being polite, civil and intellectual, It is a simple theater where the man just have to tilt towards old fashioned male domination, with a few sprinkles of tasteless and tacky display of wealth. If you are not rich, just pretend like it. They are desperate to try to find evidence for you being the exit from the sh*t hand they where dealt. Act like this "winner" and you are home safe. When in confusion you backtrack towards the neanderthals and you will find it in you, I am sure. We sometimes makes things harder than it is, just because we want to see things that are not there. At the end of the day a blind retard can find a woman in Ukraine. To have two or three a day requires more skills, time and money, but it is still a country and people that is continuing the tradition of being assf*cked over and over by anyone that has some resources. I wonder if things would change if people stopped drinking from noon and onward.

And then there is of course the girls that are just girls, and that you can just be yourself with. Laugh, talk and play between the sex. Julia, my dear.

B.

[VinDiesel]

Not on the 1st date? It's your only date!

The odds of getting laid reduce on each date that you don't close the deal. By the 4th date she'll be inviting all her friends for a free dinner.

Remember that the girls knows you could get laid for less than the price of her dinner.

I've only ever been laid the first date once, a couple of times on the second. You know, just reading about all the experiences you guys have had and your approach to EE girls, I think I might have been doing it wrong. I treat them like I would a girl back home with all the dating, wining, dining and dancing stuff. Well, this trip, I'm going to try what you lads are advocating.

[VinDiesel]

Could you please not rehash my material. I just posted this less than a week ago in the Russian thread.

Never been in that thread bud. Myhonest thoughts on the whole scene bases on my limited experiences. Probably just a similarity in thoughts. I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of us had similar experiences.

Cheers

[Irish Lad]

I have noticed that with ukranian girls, especially in the dating game, if they are really into you odds are you are going to get laid by the latest second or third date. Any longer and it usually means she isn't all into you and is considering her options. That just means lots of dates and wasted money with no action. Honestly, if an ukranian lady likes you, she will make sure you know in every way possible!

Not on the 1st date? It's your only date!

The odds of getting laid reduce on each date that you don't close the deal. By the 4th date she'll be inviting all her friends for a free dinner.

Remember that the girls knows you could get laid for less than the price of her dinner.

[Irish Lad]

Things to avoid:-

"My friend likes you"."You can sleep at my place, I have a spare bed".

They are things NOT to say.

Try these:-

Are you a good kisser?

I don't like to sleep alone.

[Climaxnow]

I have noticed that with ukranian girls, especially in the dating game, if they are really into you odds are you are going to get laid by the latest second or third date. Any longer and it usually means she isn't all into you and is considering her options. That just means lots of dates and wasted money with no action. Honestly, if an ukranian lady likes you, she will make sure you know in every way possible!

Could you please not rehash my material. I just posted this less than a week ago in the Russian thread.

[PedroToronja]

PT, when you get settled in and ready to move about let me know. You don't have pm, so let me know how I can contact you or a place to meet up. I am supposed to go on another tour I believe outside the city in the morning, and should be back for salsa dancing at some park I was told about where they will be having it in the evening. If tomorrow doesn't work, maybe Saturday sometime. Well anyway let me know.

Today I can meet at any time anywhere near Maidan or Friday's (Krechiatik area) , or Repriza by Lev Tolstoi.

[MrCanal]

Hi,

I am coming to Luhansk as a student for preparatory course for Ukranian language, any guidance to become expert mongering, I will be in apartment.

[Jojosun]

No! Big difference between three hours of wee hour sex and one hour of normal day time sex. That reasoning of breaking his sex down to $100 an hour should have been red flagged.

Going by your reasoning, I don't find it very convencing in the context of (Sex and Price paid in Kiev). Then everyone wasn't getting Value For Money and ripped off in the days of River Palace, when prices quoted were in the range of US$200 to US$300 for few hours.

Now a lot of mongers are bemoaning its disappearnce.

And what time did you think the girls were getting Shagged, if not in the "wee hours ".

Pros and semi Pros from normal clubs like D'Luxe Arena, you don't get to shag them till the "wee hours " and in the same price range.

That said, I don't do "wee hours sex ", but happy hours sex early evening, because of cheaper prices.

[Jojosun]

Perfect! Now you get how it works here.

Put a girl here on a pedestal and go home alone. Tell her there are millions of beautiful girls in Ukraine but you haven't yet chosen the lucky one and you'll get a result.

"My friend likes you"."You can sleep at my place, I have a spare bed".

I was thinking of doing this line on them next time in Kiev.

"I Have Vays Of Making you Kom" I might even dress up in a certain uniform for the part.

Forceful but in a nice way.

And unless the girls are "Aunties " they won't be offended by the "Old Line "

[Jojosun]

Also, about 'extra money for food' is no money given to them, but I spend it with them as we eat together. Bringing girls from other cities has worked very well for me, but your experience may vary.

You don't need to give us your CV here, but to get an idea how you do " Bring Girls from Other Cities for free ", can you briefly give us an idea about yourself, like age group, color, looks, languages spoken etc.

And secondly, what age group are these girls, are they as hot as the p4p Girls in Kiev that charge to Shag them.

Then we know what you are talking about.