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  1. #10703

    Apartment vs Hotel

    Which do you think is better. Apartments or hotel?

    I always use Hotel when I'm in Kiev. It seems as apartments in general are more expensive than Hotel.

    The best of the cheap hotels I have stayed in is Hotel Rus at about $75 a night. I would not say it very good but OK compared to lets say Dnipro or Ukraine. However I think a double room would be closing up to an apartment in price.

    Appartments as Kievinn or Senator-apartments is at least about $130 a night with possible discount for longer stays.

    For a quite good appartment complex I could pay a little more than the hotel but not way beyond.

    Anyone has recomendations of OK to good apartments and hotels to reasonable price.

  2. #10702

    Photos of working Mamba Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by PedroToronja  [View Original Post]
    Yes, they are mostly true.
    My experience during a recent 6-weeks-stay with working girls was totally different. You can't trust statements like "photos are 100 % real" or "photos are mine, don't ask, it's annoying". Many girls or the operators / agencies lie in the profile, in mails they send you and even on the phone. Photos often show very beautiful girls, they are just too good to be true. You can not get such girls for the the quoted prices like 600 or 800 Gr.

  3. #10701

    Some tips

    Quote Originally Posted by samata61  [View Original Post]
    july 27, 2012.

    arrived to kiev around 5pm and had a car from the hyatt waiting for me to take me to the hotel. nice hotel in the center with spacious and clean rooms but expensive (330 euro / night).

    i had pre-arranged a meeting with my semi-pro girl since it was my first time in kiev and i read at isg that kiev was slow in late july and august. she is a manger at a jewelry store and now opened her own business too so she had not have time to roam the clubs and did not have sex for a while which was great.

    we met for dinner and i had forgotten how beautiful she is that i almost did not recognize her. again dinner was very expensive $200+. finished dinner and off to the room and she was smoking hot and supper wet; daty, sex in all position, and would not release me till she came several times. she was so great that i decided to repeat the second day.

    july 28, 2012.

    she left early to work but took half a day off and came back at 1 pm to act as my tour guide. she drove me around the city since it was too hot to walk and we went off at all the important attractions.

    finished touring so she went home to change and i took a shower and nap waiting for dinner around 10 then back to the hotel and she was even hotter than the night before but this time and after the first hot session i insisted on bbbj and cim which she happily obliged. her bbbj skills are incredible and she rates no. 2 on the long list of bj artists.

    total damage for the 2 days: $1, 000.

    july 29, 2012.

    after breakfast, i decided to check out rakuena massage parlor so i walked to their location that was very difficult to find and when i finally arrived, they would not open the door till i called to let them know that i am coming without an appointment.

    i went downstairs through a number of doors and was greeted by a girl who led me to a room then only 2 masseuses showed up (a blond and brunette) claiming that they are busy and i did not have an appointment but they both looked nice so i did not mind; i picked the blond since she spoke better english and chose a 1. 5 hour erotic massage for 800 grivnas. allis (i think) started with an erotic massage and hj till i cam (30 minutes) , proceeded to a classic massage that was ok (30 minutes) , then wanted to do another erotic massage and started to play with my dick and balls but i stopped her since i had no intention of blowing another load after all the sex i had the last 2 days and knowing what coming in the evening so i offered to give her a massage instead, she was shocked and agreed. so i spent the next 30 minutes massaging her great body, playing with her breasts, ass, and pussy. she would not allow me to stick my fingers in her ass or pussy but everything else was allowed. she did not ask for any tip and none was offered.

    since it was a sunday, i called upon a highly referred escort from escortnews. eu (nata) who happened to be in kiev since she has moved to istanbul. she arrived at the hotel at 9pm, she was exactly as advertised, and looked absolutely great. went to dinner and it was strange that despite her beauty i was not all that excited but i thought it due to having a lot of sex in the last couple of days till she told me her birthday and we were born in the exact same day but different years off course. that all changer we arrived to the hotel room as she was a hot kitten and started by caressing her nipples and clit with a small vibrator at full site which was exciting then on to bbbj, daty (she did not seem to enjoy but allowed) , cow girl, then we both came reverse cowgirl with a great view of her ass. it was getting late so we went to sleep but asked me to have sex with her at night if i felt like it and i obliged around 6am and i was very exciting playing with these firm large breast, ass, and pussy while she was or pretended to be half asleep then sex missionary till i came and went back to sleep a happy camper.

    we woke up around 10am and her vibrator had run out of battery so she warned me that i had to arouse her which i happily obliged and she returned the favor by a long slow bbbj then doggy style in various heights and speed till i came.

    we went out to breakfast near the hotel and she insisted on paying then showed me to a legit massage parlor and i reserved a massage in a few hours and went on to walk around kiev and it was scorching hot. got to the massage around 2:30 and had a great 1. 5 hour massage from 2 masseuses from bali with no extra based on my request.

    total damage for nata : 400 euro.

    july 30, 2012.

    went back to the hotel and after the massage for my usual nap, i really wanted to call another escort from escortnews. eu but i could not leave kiev without checking the other night spot so i decided to check out buddha bar.

    arrived to buddha around 9:30 and it was not busy but there were a few tables with girls but none responded to my eye contact so i ordered dinner and waited for a while but the situation did not improve so i bolted out and decided to check out sky bar that was recommended by the girl from rakuena massage. upon arrival, the bouncer told me that it was karaoke night and it is not worth it for me to go up so i headed to the famous rio.

    i was surprised that the place was busy with no free tables and i was finally given a table in the room to right of the main entrance with 3 poles. the girls looked ok but the show was boring; i was really in the mood for an athletic brunette and it was all over when i spotted naomi. i called her to the table and she apologized that she had to give a lap dance first then she will come so i ordered another drink and waited for her while watching the show for the second time. she came over, was very nice, her english was limited, but i did not care since i felt good chemistry. she asked for the usual $300 for 3 hours and i had to pay it in the club (glad to have some cash) , she got changed, and off we went.

    i could not wait to get to the room to start playing with that great young body and she appeared to be excited too. she refused to kiss at first but after some daty where she came wildly, everything changed and she was now kissing me. she put on a condom and proceeded with cbj, had sex in all position till i came. we both showered again, preceded to massage each other's in preparation for the second round. again cbj and she really had a difficult time getting me hard since i had too much sex and i hate cbj but she insisted and i was not in the mood for arguing then proceeded to fuck doggy style and at full thrust position she was not comfortable and maybe hurting a bit so we changed to missionary style and she proceeded with massaging her clit which i love to watch so i held back till she came then went full thrust again till i blew my last load of the trip. by the time we showered, hugged, and kissed; the 3 hours were over. i tried to convince her to stay the night but she explained that it is impossible since she has to go back to check out from the club that was sucks since i really wanted to have another morning session with her. she explained that she gets $150 and rio gets $150 that seems fair.

    all in all it was a wonderful trip and worth repeating. i think ukraine is one of the best mongering destinations especially since the girls are so pretty and are not too expensive but the country itself and hotels are very expensive and comparable to some of the most expensive cities in europe.
    buddah bar gets busy by midnight, and the girls hang by the bar upstairs. i saw some nines and tens there. i am sure they are very expensive.

    as for hotel, next time i suggest you stay in rented apartment instead, for 1/3 of the price.

    regarding the girl with the jewelry store, can you give us a hint of how to locate her? i would love to meet her!

    you had a great week, congratulations!

  4. #10700

    Real status

    Quote Originally Posted by Gfeyup  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I did it. I went in and changed my settings but it tells me in order to see the profiles of women from Ukraine, I have to be a real user. The problem is that I don't get my phone confirmations, so I can't become a real user this way. I did some researching and I found that becoming a VIP member, five bucks cost, you automatically become a real user. The problem is my visa does not work on the site. I phoned my ccard company and they said my card is fine and theres nothing else they can do. I now have tried paypal to get VIP status, but the process takes 6 to 8 business days, and I'd like to get things moving as I'm in Kiev in one weeks time. What do you think? Is there any way to get my real status? Or do I even need a real status? I just want to search the Ukraine hotties and start corresponding / escorts?
    Bring with you an unlocked GSM phone, buy a SIM card with an UA phone number once in Kiev, it takes little cost and no time. Ask for your real status with your UA number, get the txt with the code, enter into Mamba and voila! You are real.

  5. #10699

    In my experience, Mamba photos are true 90% of the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuggen  [View Original Post]
    Girls from Mamba a continuing to write me 500 Grivna or 100USD even though I don't search for those I believe are working.

    However, several claims that it is their photos. I have tried to ask just out of interest. Here I see that posts about that mamba photos more or less are never true! Is it to be expected false photos from a mamba girl even if she has claimed that its her photos?
    Yes, they are mostly true.

  6. #10698

    Great report Samata61

    Quote Originally Posted by samata61  [View Original Post]
    july 27, 2012.

    arrived to kiev around 5pm and had a car from the hyatt waiting for me to take me to the hotel. nice hotel in the center with spacious and clean rooms but expensive (330 euro / night).

    i had pre-arranged a meeting with my semi-pro girl since it was my first time in kiev and i read at isg that kiev was slow in late july and august. she is a manger at a jewelry store and now opened her own business too so she had not have time to roam the clubs and did not have sex for a while which was great.

    we met for dinner and i had forgotten how beautiful she is that i almost did not recognize her. again dinner was very expensive $200+. finished dinner and off to the room and she was smoking hot and supper wet; daty, sex in all position, and would not release me till she came several times. she was so great that i decided to repeat the second day.

    july 28, 2012.

    she left early to work but took half a day off and came back at 1 pm to act as my tour guide. she drove me around the city since it was too hot to walk and we went off at all the important attractions.

    finished touring so she went home to change and i took a shower and nap waiting for dinner around 10 then back to the hotel and she was even hotter than the night before but this time and after the first hot session i insisted on bbbj and cim which she happily obliged. her bbbj skills are incredible and she rates no. 2 on the long list of bj artists.

    total damage for the 2 days: $1, 000.

    july 29, 2012.

    after breakfast, i decided to check out rakuena massage parlor so i walked to their location that was very difficult to find and when i finally arrived, they would not open the door till i called to let them know that i am coming without an appointment.

    i went downstairs through a number of doors and was greeted by a girl who led me to a room then only 2 masseuses showed up (a blond and brunette) claiming that they are busy and i did not have an appointment but they both looked nice so i did not mind; i picked the blond since she spoke better english and chose a 1. 5 hour erotic massage for 800 grivnas. allis (i think) started with an erotic massage and hj till i cam (30 minutes) , proceeded to a classic massage that was ok (30 minutes) , then wanted to do another erotic massage and started to play with my dick and balls but i stopped her since i had no intention of blowing another load after all the sex i had the last 2 days and knowing what coming in the evening so i offered to give her a massage instead, she was shocked and agreed. so i spent the next 30 minutes massaging her great body, playing with her breasts, ass, and pussy. she would not allow me to stick my fingers in her ass or pussy but everything else was allowed. she did not ask for any tip and none was offered.

    since it was a sunday, i called upon a highly referred escort from escortnews. eu (nata) who happened to be in kiev since she has moved to istanbul. she arrived at the hotel at 9pm, she was exactly as advertised, and looked absolutely great. went to dinner and it was strange that despite her beauty i was not all that excited but i thought it due to having a lot of sex in the last couple of days till she told me her birthday and we were born in the exact same day but different years off course. that all changer we arrived to the hotel room as she was a hot kitten and started by caressing her nipples and clit with a small vibrator at full site which was exciting then on to bbbj, daty (she did not seem to enjoy but allowed) , cow girl, then we both came reverse cowgirl with a great view of her ass. it was getting late so we went to sleep but asked me to have sex with her at night if i felt like it and i obliged around 6am and i was very exciting playing with these firm large breast, ass, and pussy while she was or pretended to be half asleep then sex missionary till i came and went back to sleep a happy camper.

    we woke up around 10am and her vibrator had run out of battery so she warned me that i had to arouse her which i happily obliged and she returned the favor by a long slow bbbj then doggy style in various heights and speed till i came.

    we went out to breakfast near the hotel and she insisted on paying then showed me to a legit massage parlor and i reserved a massage in a few hours and went on to walk around kiev and it was scorching hot. got to the massage around 2:30 and had a great 1. 5 hour massage from 2 masseuses from bali with no extra based on my request.

    total damage for nata : 400 euro.

    july 30, 2012.

    went back to the hotel and after the massage for my usual nap, i really wanted to call another escort from escortnews. eu but i could not leave kiev without checking the other night spot so i decided to check out buddha bar.

    arrived to buddha around 9:30 and it was not busy but there were a few tables with girls but none responded to my eye contact so i ordered dinner and waited for a while but the situation did not improve so i bolted out and decided to check out sky bar that was recommended by the girl from rakuena massage. upon arrival, the bouncer told me that it was karaoke night and it is not worth it for me to go up so i headed to the famous rio.

    i was surprised that the place was busy with no free tables and i was finally given a table in the room to right of the main entrance with 3 poles. the girls looked ok but the show was boring; i was really in the mood for an athletic brunette and it was all over when i spotted naomi. i called her to the table and she apologized that she had to give a lap dance first then she will come so i ordered another drink and waited for her while watching the show for the second time. she came over, was very nice, her english was limited, but i did not care since i felt good chemistry. she asked for the usual $300 for 3 hours and i had to pay it in the club (glad to have some cash) , she got changed, and off we went.

    i could not wait to get to the room to start playing with that great young body and she appeared to be excited too. she refused to kiss at first but after some daty where she came wildly, everything changed and she was now kissing me. she put on a condom and proceeded with cbj, had sex in all position till i came. we both showered again, preceded to massage each other's in preparation for the second round. again cbj and she really had a difficult time getting me hard since i had too much sex and i hate cbj but she insisted and i was not in the mood for arguing then proceeded to fuck doggy style and at full thrust position she was not comfortable and maybe hurting a bit so we changed to missionary style and she proceeded with massaging her clit which i love to watch so i held back till she came then went full thrust again till i blew my last load of the trip. by the time we showered, hugged, and kissed; the 3 hours were over. i tried to convince her to stay the night but she explained that it is impossible since she has to go back to check out from the club that was sucks since i really wanted to have another morning session with her. she explained that she gets $150 and rio gets $150 that seems fair.

    all in all it was a wonderful trip and worth repeating. i think ukraine is one of the best mongering destinations especially since the girls are so pretty and are not too expensive but the country itself and hotels are very expensive and comparable to some of the most expensive cities in europe.
    nice to read such informative report and great time you had. where from did you get you semi pro hot girl? vkontakte, mamba or other source? hoe did you manage to meet her? with respect, ronaldinho

  7. #10697

    First time in Kiev

    july 27, 2012.

    arrived to kiev around 5pm and had a car from the hyatt waiting for me to take me to the hotel. nice hotel in the center with spacious and clean rooms but expensive (330 euro / night).

    i had pre-arranged a meeting with my semi-pro girl since it was my first time in kiev and i read at isg that kiev was slow in late july and august. she is a manger at a jewelry store and now opened her own business too so she had not have time to roam the clubs and did not have sex for a while which was great.

    we met for dinner and i had forgotten how beautiful she is that i almost did not recognize her. again dinner was very expensive $200+. finished dinner and off to the room and she was smoking hot and supper wet; daty, sex in all position, and would not release me till she came several times. she was so great that i decided to repeat the second day.

    july 28, 2012.

    she left early to work but took half a day off and came back at 1 pm to act as my tour guide. she drove me around the city since it was too hot to walk and we went off at all the important attractions.

    finished touring so she went home to change and i took a shower and nap waiting for dinner around 10 then back to the hotel and she was even hotter than the night before but this time and after the first hot session i insisted on bbbj and cim which she happily obliged. her bbbj skills are incredible and she rates no. 2 on the long list of bj artists.

    total damage for the 2 days: $1, 000.

    july 29, 2012.

    after breakfast, i decided to check out rakuena massage parlor so i walked to their location that was very difficult to find and when i finally arrived, they would not open the door till i called to let them know that i am coming without an appointment.

    i went downstairs through a number of doors and was greeted by a girl who led me to a room then only 2 masseuses showed up (a blond and brunette) claiming that they are busy and i did not have an appointment but they both looked nice so i did not mind; i picked the blond since she spoke better english and chose a 1. 5 hour erotic massage for 800 grivnas. allis (i think) started with an erotic massage and hj till i cam (30 minutes) , proceeded to a classic massage that was ok (30 minutes) , then wanted to do another erotic massage and started to play with my dick and balls but i stopped her since i had no intention of blowing another load after all the sex i had the last 2 days and knowing what coming in the evening so i offered to give her a massage instead, she was shocked and agreed. so i spent the next 30 minutes massaging her great body, playing with her breasts, ass, and pussy. she would not allow me to stick my fingers in her ass or pussy but everything else was allowed. she did not ask for any tip and none was offered.

    since it was a sunday, i called upon a highly referred escort from escortnews. eu (nata) who happened to be in kiev since she has moved to istanbul. she arrived at the hotel at 9pm, she was exactly as advertised, and looked absolutely great. went to dinner and it was strange that despite her beauty i was not all that excited but i thought it due to having a lot of sex in the last couple of days till she told me her birthday and we were born in the exact same day but different years off course. that all changer we arrived to the hotel room as she was a hot kitten and started by caressing her nipples and clit with a small vibrator at full site which was exciting then on to bbbj, daty (she did not seem to enjoy but allowed) , cow girl, then we both came reverse cowgirl with a great view of her ass. it was getting late so we went to sleep but asked me to have sex with her at night if i felt like it and i obliged around 6am and i was very exciting playing with these firm large breast, ass, and pussy while she was or pretended to be half asleep then sex missionary till i came and went back to sleep a happy camper.

    we woke up around 10am and her vibrator had run out of battery so she warned me that i had to arouse her which i happily obliged and she returned the favor by a long slow bbbj then doggy style in various heights and speed till i came.

    we went out to breakfast near the hotel and she insisted on paying then showed me to a legit massage parlor and i reserved a massage in a few hours and went on to walk around kiev and it was scorching hot. got to the massage around 2:30 and had a great 1. 5 hour massage from 2 masseuses from bali with no extra based on my request.

    total damage for nata : 400 euro.

    july 30, 2012.

    went back to the hotel and after the massage for my usual nap, i really wanted to call another escort from escortnews. eu but i could not leave kiev without checking the other night spot so i decided to check out buddha bar.

    arrived to buddha around 9:30 and it was not busy but there were a few tables with girls but none responded to my eye contact so i ordered dinner and waited for a while but the situation did not improve so i bolted out and decided to check out sky bar that was recommended by the girl from rakuena massage. upon arrival, the bouncer told me that it was karaoke night and it is not worth it for me to go up so i headed to the famous rio.

    i was surprised that the place was busy with no free tables and i was finally given a table in the room to right of the main entrance with 3 poles. the girls looked ok but the show was boring; i was really in the mood for an athletic brunette and it was all over when i spotted naomi. i called her to the table and she apologized that she had to give a lap dance first then she will come so i ordered another drink and waited for her while watching the show for the second time. she came over, was very nice, her english was limited, but i did not care since i felt good chemistry. she asked for the usual $300 for 3 hours and i had to pay it in the club (glad to have some cash) , she got changed, and off we went.

    i could not wait to get to the room to start playing with that great young body and she appeared to be excited too. she refused to kiss at first but after some daty where she came wildly, everything changed and she was now kissing me. she put on a condom and proceeded with cbj, had sex in all position till i came. we both showered again, preceded to massage each other's in preparation for the second round. again cbj and she really had a difficult time getting me hard since i had too much sex and i hate cbj but she insisted and i was not in the mood for arguing then proceeded to fuck doggy style and at full thrust position she was not comfortable and maybe hurting a bit so we changed to missionary style and she proceeded with massaging her clit which i love to watch so i held back till she came then went full thrust again till i blew my last load of the trip. by the time we showered, hugged, and kissed; the 3 hours were over. i tried to convince her to stay the night but she explained that it is impossible since she has to go back to check out from the club that was sucks since i really wanted to have another morning session with her. she explained that she gets $150 and rio gets $150 that seems fair.

    all in all it was a wonderful trip and worth repeating. i think ukraine is one of the best mongering destinations especially since the girls are so pretty and are not too expensive but the country itself and hotels are very expensive and comparable to some of the most expensive cities in europe.

  8. #10696

    Inquestive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldinjo  [View Original Post]
    hello tuggen, how did you find rio girls? Could you name best looking girls there?
    Liljoey is on his way to Kiev. Can't you wait till then? LOL.

  9. #10695

    Pre Paid Visa.

    Quote Originally Posted by gfeyup  [View Original Post]
    i found that becoming a vip member, five bucks cost, you automatically become a real user. the problem is my visa does not work on the site. i phoned my ccard company and they said my card is fine and theres nothing else they can do. i now have tried paypal to get vip status, but the process takes 6 to 8 business days,?
    a pre paid visa card might speed up things for you. besides its safer to use on the net.

  10. #10694

    9. 5 look on your scale

    "Anyway, I am trying now for the 18 years old I mentioned, corresponding with her now and she is a 9. 5. I am doing the best I can, and she could be a replacement for my 'official' one (8 years younger) but it is not likely to happen. Since I am a bonafide Monger and I have the reputation and honor of my fellow mongers to protect, I will keep at it till I fall on my face or I get my face on her pussy for the Pride and Glory of the Mongers of the World![/QUOTE]"ello Pedro. You are doing a amazing job. I am curious since you seem to be rather experienced reading your posts. How does a 9. 5 look on your scale? Any example from the real world models, celebs or photo of ukrainian, Russian girls? I know these things are subjective but happy to get guidance from a experienced hand?

    Kudos

  11. #10693

    OMG, mamba is killing me

    Ok, I did it. I went in and changed my settings but it tells me in order to see the profiles of women from Ukraine, I have to be a real user. The problem is that I don't get my phone confirmations, so I can't become a real user this way. I did some researching and I found that becoming a VIP member, five bucks cost, you automatically become a real user. The problem is my visa does not work on the site. I phoned my ccard company and they said my card is fine and theres nothing else they can do. I now have tried paypal to get VIP status, but the process takes 6 to 8 business days, and I'd like to get things moving as I'm in Kiev in one weeks time. What do you think? Is there any way to get my real status? Or do I even need a real status? I just want to search the Ukraine hotties and start corresponding / escorts?

  12. #10692

    Hello

    Quote Originally Posted by tuggen  [View Original Post]
    i have bee to rio club and seen that they have two floors with strip. Up at the bar, with 2 pooles, and a room inside with tables and 3 pools. There is also a stip room at the lowest floor.

    However i heard that there should be 3 floors! Where is the third floor?

    Which of the room are best?

    Is there any differance in girls who are working in different rooms?
    hello tuggen, how did you find rio girls? Could you name best looking girls there?

  13. #10691

    Mamba: Knowing some Russian is essential

    Quote Originally Posted by PedroToronja  [View Original Post]
    I had no luck with VK although I invited many girls to chat. Mamba and SeekingArrangement did work for me, quite well actually. I always get an apartment for my GF and I and on some days I rent a second and I had even rented a third as some girls I brought from Odessa or Lviv, and had to put them somewhere. I have also used the hotel Royal the Paris at the Arena City complex, same building as Sky Bar, is not too expensive but clean.

    The problem I have now is that my GF of 2 years is a solid 7. 5, sometimes an 8, and she really fucks the shit out of me, so I am left with little energy or interest in spending the time / money with more girls. It is sad, because there is nothing better than the 'first time' with almost any girl, the discovery, etc. I make plans in Mamba, chose from Top-modals, even Gia (tremendously photoshopped but some are good) , and then. I don't call them: getting another apartment or room, etc. Is just too complicated and the girl can be a dog.

    Anyway, I am trying now for the 18 years old I mentioned, corresponding with her now and she is a 9. 5. I am doing the best I can, and she could be a replacement for my 'official' one (8 years younger) but it is not likely to happen. Since I am a bonafide Monger and I have the reputation and honor of my fellow mongers to protect, I will keep at it till I fall on my face or I get my face on her pussy for the Pride and Glory of the Mongers of the World!
    As DrBlank writes, the photos of the girls who sell sex on Mamba are fake most of the time. In a six week stay I found some exceptions. Usually they were independant girls like Irina, blond. 18 according to her profile, who charges 500 Gr / h plus 100 for DATY. All of her photos are real.

    Even speaking Russian, I had to invest a lot of time (I. E. I lost a lot of time.) I think for Dudes who don't speak Russian it is just frustrating as hell.

  14. #10690
    I'd rather walk than fly Air France again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy7  [View Original Post]
    I only lost my baggage one time 2-3 years ago in all my trips and it was fuking Air France, I used Air France only 2 times.

    I was lucky it was on my return flight home, it too over 2 weeks for them to deliver to my home

  15. #10689

    Mamba

    Quote Originally Posted by LilJoey  [View Original Post]
    Dear Tuggen, as I explained in a previous post, the girls advertising on mamba. Ru can be divided into two categories: (1) regular girls looking for normal dates, and (2) girls looking to receive money in exchange for sex, which includes professional prostitutes, escort agencies, girl apartments, as well as students or young women looking for economic support in the form of sponsorship and other semi-pro girls who will give it up for money.

    With regard to the first category of normal girls looking for normal dates and friendship, it is more likely that true photos would be used, since the lie would be discovered at the first meeting and be a big negative to any hoped for relationship. Besides the first actual date would likely be preceded by additional exchange of photos and / or Skyping where the parties see each other and satisfy themselves that they want the other party on a date. Therefore, for these type of girls, the use of fake pictures runs counterproductive to their purpose, which is to advance a normal dating relationship.

    On the other hand, the escort agencies and individual girls looking for money in exchange for sex, although there are some exceptions, have mostly taken to the practice of "bait and switch" which is to use a fake picture to lure the customer into booking the appointment with the escort, but switching the girl who actually arrives who will be whoever is available at the time, and not the girl in the picture you saw in the profile / ad, counting on the fact that the guy is very horny and will keep even a girl who is different than the photo as long as she looks good enough. Unfortunately, they often send girls who are much less good looking than the girl in the picture you saw in the profile. If that happens, just send the unappealing girls back with no more than 50 UAH taxi fare, if they ask for it, and if you want the agency to send you more girls. These type of girls have no interest in exposing their own lies, so they will say that they have no more photos to send you and promise you their pictures are 1000% true. Of course, you will only find out it was a lie when the escort shows up to your doorstep and you see it is a different girl than in the photo. Then you will have to make the choice of whether she is good enough looking to keep for a session, or not and will be sent back. These agencies and individuals have a good reason for using fake pictures of really hot girls, which is to get you to call them and make a booking, and using fake pictures is productive for their purpose.

    So how does one recognize which category of girl each profile belongs to? Much has been written in the past, so read the thread. There have been some recent changes on the mamba. Ru site, which bear some additional comment. Currently, there are no longer very many ads in which a girl states In the "What I'm Looking For" part of the profile that she "offers sex for money" or "looking for a sponsor", although some girls have worked such information into other parts of their profiles. Instead, the choices are "Looking for: friendship, or dating, or travel". These are too innocuous and don't tell you anything. But if you see a 20 something year old girl "looking for a man from ages of 20 to 80" chances are she's looking for money for sex. If you see her looking for a man in a more age-appropriate range, like 20 to 30, she is more likely a regular girl looking for a guy. The other way to tell is by the initial response she sends, as in the case of an escort agency you will probably receive a response containing her services and / or rates per hour.

    Your Rio questions can be answered by reviewing my reports referenced in Latexian's post in the Reports of Distinction thread all about Rio.

    Happy Mongering, and do yourself a favor and read the thread going back at least a year or more, as it will pay off in the end.

    LJ
    I might just add two pointers; 1. Look at the background in their photos. Non working girls usually have a "normal","usuual","everyday" like background. 2. Look at the number of visits per day that hey have and there respons rate (at bottom of their portfolio) ; working girls usually have a high reply rate; while regular ones are more discriminating.

    Excellent report

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