Kyiv

[LilJoey]

I wish the KIEV thread was subdivided into 2 special sections like, Pros and Semi pros, Strip Club Girls etc. And one for Dating the so called real freebies for relationships etc.

I have stated it in the past and wholly agree and endorse Jojosun's recommendation of dividing the Kiev thread into two threads, one entitled: "Pay 4 Play Girls", and the other entitled "Freebie Girls", or similar. The factors and parameters of the search for these two types of girls are discrete enough to make such a division actually helpful.

LJ

[Jojosun]

And if you are neat, you probably won't hurt them with long dirty nails, or they won't find you dirty and smelly when is too late for them to back-off, etc. But mostly, if you have money to spend on you, you are more likely to spend money on them. They have to judge the book by the cover, wear the best cover you can afford (pun intended).

Been going there since September 2009, so I have my own social group there (Females) who have seen The Cover and the inside of the book. Best way of establishing a status and getting fresh talent.

I prefer doing it in style, so I don't look like a clueless Pervert chasing 18 years old girls. BTW I am in the second half of my 40s.

[PedroToronja]

C'mon down and join the party!

Just let me know how I can get in contact with you once I get there.

Are you on Mamba? I'm not even sure how I could find you on there, my search button only has one setting. 'women' LOL.

Wild, Out.

That is Premier Palace, they have excellent Blue Mountain Jamaican espresso and the occasional very hot chick. All the employees at that hotels are model-looking. I tried to 'sponsor' an amazing chick called Julia, but she turned me down. What else is new?

[PedroToronja]

.

Correct. Problem with the Kiev thread is more often than not, we keep getting our wires crossed here. Hence you find this thread one of the most contentious on ISG.

Your tips and pointers about the Iphone 4 and 5, The super sized and Priced watches, Shoes, formal suites are really more geared towards Dating in General, and not just in Kiev.

All the accessories in the world won't be a substitute for Looks, charisma, and the ticket to score a young real hottie who is not a gold digger.

Your Accessories might give you Thrills, but at the end of the day It won't pay Kiev's girls their bills.

And if you are neat, you probably won't hurt them with long dirty nails, or they won't find you dirty and smelly when is too late for them to back-off, etc. But mostly, if you have money to spend on you, you are more likely to spend money on them. They have to judge the book by the cover, wear the best cover you can afford (pun intended).

[Jojosun]

Plus The 6000 Euros Mink Coat? LOL. .

I tell you what Though, you better not walk around London with all the above Gear.

Its a sure sign of invitation to Mug you or worse.

Many people have been mugged and even killed for their Iphone when displayed in public.

Prosal, my apologies fot the above inflated figure 6000 euros.

Re checked your post (Below) and it was actually 4500 euros.

Sounds like it was a good investment, . But if I were you I wouldn't trust a Coat checker in Kiev looking after it, LOL. Does it have Deep Pockets Though.

Wearing with style and refinement is more effective in winter. You can sharpen your dressing style with nice gloves, scarfs, coats, ect. I bought in winter 2011 a somptuous Zilli black mink and black cashmere coat that allowed me VERY lofty scores. At 4500€, a big investment, but definitely worth it.

[Jojosun]

Correct. Problem with the Kiev thread is more often than not, we keep getting our wires crossed here. Hence you find this thread one of the most contentious on ISG.

I wish the KIEV thread was subdivided into 2 special sections like, Pros and Semi pros, Strip Club Girls etc. And one for Dating the so called real freebies for relationships etc.

Dishing out tips and pointers are wasted, without the poster stating clearly what he is actually looking for in KIEV. And it would be helpful with a brief general introduction of one's self, age group, color, experiences etc.

Then Prosal's Fashion and jewellery tips might be of relevance to someone.

[Wildout]

BWAHAHAHAA! I fuckin love this guy!

Who needs ab workouts when you have Cruiser D's posts to keep your obliques in top shape.

If you're around Kiev in late Sept / early Oct, do let me know. You owe me a round for making me spit this drink on my keyboard.

Sad but true, well not all of them speak English.

Why just last trip I had a cutie who didn't understand English come from a smaller city to spend a few days with me in Kiev. I brought her with me to my farwell visit to Shooters with Irish Lad and the gang. Total cost was 200uah for the train and I gave her $100 to go shopping in Metrograd so I could get some work done and go out on a date or two. Red Diploma at Cocksucking University for sure.

My advantage is that I was already an advanced player in the nightclub scene in Manhattan and Miami, serial dater and a very experienced foreign traveler long before my Italian dress shoes hit the ground in the FSU. I used to be an unstoppable force when I first arrived in Kiev in 2004. But now that I am on the other side of 40 I've been eyeing fur trimmed coats and giant faced watches to keep it going! Keep it real brother! .

[Wildout]

C'mon down and join the party!

Just let me know how I can get in contact with you once I get there.

Are you on Mamba? I'm not even sure how I could find you on there, my search button only has one setting. 'women' LOL.

Wild, Out.

And will definitely turn blue. Viagra Blue. Will be glad to meet with fellow hunters.

[Global Surfer]

Dnipro let the WG in but the security ran to the elevator when she got in. I told him to pretty much [CodeWord140] off and he let it go. I am not sure if that means this place is WG friendly or just that I didn't tolerate him. I met her in the lobby which probably helped. I switched to an appartment this evening but the entrance smells like [CodeWord140] but the inside looks great LOL. I am hitting Buddah bar tonight or die trying. I need to nail a 10 or this trip is wasted. Don't care about the cost at this point as it is only money.

You may also try Delux and Caribean bar.

'don't't care about the cost' is probably not the best option. You may get 10 but no GFE. That would not work for most people.

I still think Mamba is the best option for non Russian Speakers where you may get away from UAD 400-800.

(A Russian from Kazan / Tataristan admitted to going for USD 20 / hour with locals. She was definitely 9)

[Global Surfer]

And ask for Oksana. She is quite diligent and her English is good. The apartments are nice, from 100 to 140 USD a day. 2 rooms with kitchen, washing machine, etc. They are in Krechiatik, from TGIF restaurant all the way to Maidan, but the buildings are not good by our standards. Once you are inside, the apartments are good.

Thanks. Will definitely consider. Although its almost the same price I paid to the hotel

[Jojosun]

Admittedly, one doesn't need status accessories when one solely deal with prostitutes. One can even dress like a slob.

.

Correct. Problem with the Kiev thread is more often than not, we keep getting our wires crossed here. Hence you find this thread one of the most contentious on ISG.

Your tips and pointers about the Iphone 4 and 5, The super sized and Priced watches, Shoes, formal suites are really more geared towards Dating in General, and not just in Kiev.

All the accessories in the world won't be a substitute for Looks, charisma, and the ticket to score a young real hottie who is not a gold digger.

Your Accessories might give you Thrills, but at the end of the day It won't pay Kiev's girls their bills.

[PedroToronja]

Security or the hotel usually wants some cash to let in a WG (or sometimes any female guest).

Personally, I think it is best to figure this out in advance or just cooperate when they confront you as you pass the desk.

Usually it is just $10 or $20 USD, which you just have to build into the cost of doing business.

Of course if you use one of the lobby girls, there should be no extra fee.

Apartment lobbies can be very off-putting. At best they are dark and dingy.

Being a real mess and smelling like [CodeWord140] is not uncommon. Ex-communists don't take care of the commons.

It will bother you more than it will your date. She will care what is inside the apartment.

Good luck & have fun!

Once I had to tiptoe over a drunken bum sleeping on the stairs of the apartment, as the elevator was not working. He was snoring very loud, so I felt safe. It was disgussing. Yes, the girls don't seem to care, they are used to that. More than what is inside your apartment, they probably care what is inside your wallet. All and all, apartments are probably the best choice unless you have money to blow. Premier Palace and Hyatt are fantastic hotels, Opera and Radisson are also very good but a couple of notches down and not as well located. Go for the burgers at the top of the Hyatt, they are the best in Kiev and the view is fantastic.

The grass is always greener. But I have seen WGs that looked better than anyone I had in Kiev, of course with other guys. I wonder if the source is the real model agencies, but it is hard for me to give it a try as during normal fucking hours I am escorted by my GF of 2 years now, and I don't want to lose her.

Someone else in Kiev, I hope you give it a try. You are supposed to call a regular model agency (no escorts) for fashion, photo, etc. And ask for 3 to come interview with you for the clear plan of being your company for an elegant diner. In the interview, you clearly explain that the meeting will continue for drinks at your room, so they know what to expect, and so do you. Theoretically, these are not prostitutes but unemployed models that will go the extra mile for a few bucks. I imagine that will be a $1,000.00 evening and one to remember. The point is that the girl can say no, and so can you, before you hire one.

In a professional function, with my Company, we hired 3 models to act as receptionists. 2 of them where solid 9's. I assure you that they were visibly nervous when I approached them at the end of the function to say goodnight. I was not in a position to try anything with them as I was in the company of people I work with. I think they expected me to ask them to stay, but not sure.

I hope somebody tries and lets us know. If I have the chance (my GF is interviewing for jobs now) , I will absolutely go for it.

[Prosal]

$7-8k is not a very expensive watch. Over $20k is.

Expensive watches are watches that combine two or more complications (moon phase indicator, retrograde, tourbillon, ect) , of 100K and more. A 20k watch isn't an expensive watch, and admittedly a 7k watch even less so.

[Gentleman Travel]

Dnipro let the WG in but the security ran to the elevator when she got in. I told him to pretty much [CodeWord140] off and he let it go. I am not sure if that means this place is WG friendly or just that I didn't tolerate him. I met her in the lobby which probably helped. I switched to an appartment this evening but the entrance smells like [CodeWord140] but the inside looks great LOL. I am hitting Buddah bar tonight or die trying. I need to nail a 10 or this trip is wasted. Don't care about the cost at this point as it is only money.

Security or the hotel usually wants some cash to let in a WG (or sometimes any female guest).
Personally, I think it is best to figure this out in advance or just cooperate when they confront you as you pass the desk.
Usually it is just $10 or $20 USD, which you just have to build into the cost of doing business.
Of course if you use one of the lobby girls, there should be no extra fee.

Apartment lobbies can be very off-putting. At best they are dark and dingy.
Being a real mess and smelling like [CodeWord140] is not uncommon. Ex-communists don't take care of the commons.
It will bother you more than it will your date. She will care what is inside the apartment.

Good luck & have fun!

[Cruiser D]

Sad but true, well not all of them speak English.

Why just last trip I had a cutie who didn't understand English come from a smaller city to spend a few days with me in Kiev. I brought her with me to my farwell visit to Shooters with Irish Lad and the gang. Total cost was 200uah for the train and I gave her $100 to go shopping in Metrograd so I could get some work done and go out on a date or two. Red Diploma at Cocksucking University for sure.

My advantage is that I was already an advanced player in the nightclub scene in Manhattan and Miami, serial dater and a very experienced foreign traveler long before my Italian dress shoes hit the ground in the FSU. I used to be an unstoppable force when I first arrived in Kiev in 2004. But now that I am on the other side of 40 I've been eyeing fur trimmed coats and giant faced watches to keep it going! Keep it real brother!

He doesn't mind, he has 1200 girls numbers in his mobile's phonebook, all english speaking of course. (rolleyes)