Kyiv

[Jojosun]

Hi all.

This is my first post and I must already apologize for my english as I'm french (nobody's perfect!)

I've been twice to Kiev : nov 2011 and April 2012.

I've been to lots of eastern europe capital (Prague, Bucharest, Budapest.) but Kiev is by far the best experience on my side.

It's outside the Euro zone so cheaper and inside Shengen so I don't need a visa.

In April I've noticed that prices had already increased probably due to the Euro2012 event.

Cab drivers who were very happy to drive you anywhere inside the center for 50 UAH were asking 80 UAH. Restaurants were more expensive.

I'm planning to go next week to Kiev and I'd like to know if prices have increased a lot due to the Euro2012?

For example, it costed 250$ for 3h to bring home a stunning dancer from Rio and you could find beautiful "independent" girls at buddha bar or D'Lux for about the same price.

Is Rio still the best strip club in Kiev? I've never tried any other one as it was very central and with an almost unlimited choice of girls.

Plus, after reading several posts on this forum, I figured the deal was pretty clear.

For quick & cheap relaxing time before going out, I'll probably book girls at sexkiev. Net top-modals. Com.

You just have to know that all pictures are fake and it's only a matter of liking the girl who shows up or sending her back in a cab.

For 600UAH."you get what you pay for"

I also like to meet girls on mamba and travelgirls as I like to mix pro, semi-pros and newbies / students

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks

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You say you are French? Yet you don't even know that Ukraine is not in the Schengen visa Scheme. The UK is a member of the EU, but is not in the Schengen Visa Scheme. .

Visa Free to the Ukraine has nothing to do with being in the Schengen Visa Scheme.

US and other citizens of some countries don't need visas as well.

You are on the same Pattern and trend with many other first time posters here,"Who Managed To Get a Stunning Dancer From Rio ". How come we didn't hear from you before on Rio and all your other exploits in EE countries?

You want Advice? Head back to Rio and get hold of more "Stunning Dancers ". .

And Yes "Rio Is Still The Best Strip Club In Kiev ".

That's what you Want to Hear, Right.

BTW, I like your Sense Of Humor. Its almost too perfect For a French Man. LOL.

[Gentleman Travel]

Gent, what is LL?

LuckyLovers.net, it used to be a really good East-West dating site, with a very high ratio of girls with pretty good English and a low ratio of scammers. It also had discussion forums that allowed you to learn a bit about the girls real interests and opinions, but that part has withered. So I am not sure if it is as good as it used to be, and the volumes are much lower than on other sites like mamba. It also has a "Travel Together" section like mamba. So I am giving it another try and will let folks know if it generates any real life contacts.

Cruiser, it looks like we will miss connecting this time. I am arriving in Kiev late October for a couple of weeks. But happy to meet up with anyone else around at that time.

[YellowPaul]

Have anybody used Aerosvit Airlines? I getting a good deal and it's a direct flight from Toronto but the reviews on line for this airline have been pretty bad and it's making wonder if I should spend more for a major carrier.

Has anybody done the YYZ- KBP route recently?

P

[Cruiser D]

Will be in Kiev starting this Friday. Bask in the awesomeness. No autographs please.




Wastin away again in Kyiv-margaritaville.

Searching for my lost hot blondinka or three.

Some people claim that there's a woman to blame.

But I know it's my own damn fault

[BlancoVikingo]

I will follow your advice where patience is the keyword / action.

I will go to Ucariane and study their language. I will lilve at a Hostel, I've found e few that costs €9/$12. If I stay for six m'weeks at a time, I will have the time to evaluate both serious girls, and maybe, after finding some local oexpats friends, trying a club.

My point was that FSU-sites are so obviuos scams, maybe with exception from the 2 Cupid sites, that it get rediculous. Supermodels 22 why-o wants to meet men +45. If scamming, do it with intelligence. Of thousands of not millions single sexually frustrated men really get something out if this? I think we pay, let'say $100-300 until we are finished dreaming and wake up. According to a survey more than 95% never go to Russia, we / them just use it a kind of romantic dream / soft-porno.

Well. I will take it easy, with low expectations. Maybe I can meet a beauty, and create soemthing serious with her.

Using taxi's, drunk in the middle of the night is a risky thing. And as many reports, the 8-10 girls askes for sums like $300-€500 for a night.

This is very much since the average salary for a normal work is 20-40, 000 UAH / year. Maybe a secretary, with education makes $500 US a months.

[QUOTE=Tomux 22; 1318321]

Hello guys.

I have been member of Latinamerican, Colombian and Brasil-Cupid.

Since a week I'm member on UkraineDate. Com.

On the Latinamerican sites there are of course a lot of prepagos or semi, but also goodlooking serious females. It's a mix.

On UkrianeDate. Com I get interest from girls 8-10, some of them stunning. They are mostly in their late 20th or early 30th, doesn't have children, but want to have.

I have never been on a FSU-site that where serious. They are hopeless.

On Tha Latin-Cupid sites I actually meet the girls, I get their phonenumber and can watch them on webcam. Their interest was aall from sex for money to cecoming friends, having fun and in a few cases, they really wanted marriage. A mix, which is to be expected.

But FSU. It seems hopeless.

First I will say that cupid sites both ukr / rus is one of my favorite sites for meeting normal girls. There is no guarantee for sex and it takes a lot of time. But reward you get can be great. I had four great relations with women from Russian cupid last two years. Yes there is a lot of scammers on this site. Stunning model looking girls do know they price in FSU maybe even better then women I western Europe. I don't even know how stupid one need to be to believe that a model looking girl will show you interest and write you a longer letter then two sentences without being a scammer. This is not Thailand you want beautiful and classy it dose have a price. There is 100`s of men writing to these girls and you need to show her why you are better for her then others. I normally do opposite of what most men do, don't start acquaintance with cam propositions and have non aggressive approach while still showing interest to a girl. With some it dose work great, with others not. But in general this dose give me results. Only a pity it takes time, but only option for me since I can't travel to FSU for long term stay and date women direct. Lucky ones are that live / work in FSU since they meet women in everydaylife and non tourist places since am sure it gives best results and save you a lot of money.

[Cruiser D]

Don't post links to girls on here, unless you never want to talk to them again.

Someone will email her telling her that you posted her link on this site. If she is a hard core pro she might appreaciate the business, otherwise.

Thanks Pedro. Can you provide al least Genika url I'd (a nine figures number you can find fro example here marked bold.

http://XXXXXX.XX/XXXXXX.phtml?oid=

[strong]718938194[/strong]&hit=10&fromsearch&sp=0).

[Tomux 22]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1318139]Hello guys.

I have been member of Latinamerican, Colombian and Brasil-Cupid.

Since a week I'm member on UkraineDate. Com.

On the Latinamerican sites there are of course a lot of prepagos or semi, but also goodlooking serious females. It's a mix.

On UkrianeDate. Com I get interest from girls 8-10, some of them stunning. They are mostly in their late 20th or early 30th, doesn't have children, but want to have.

I have never been on a FSU-site that where serious. They are hopeless.

On Tha Latin-Cupid sites I actually meet the girls, I get their phonenumber and can watch them on webcam. Their interest was aall from sex for money to cecoming friends, having fun and in a few cases, they really wanted marriage. A mix, which is to be expected.

But FSU. It seems hopeless.

First I will say that cupid sites both ukr / rus is one of my favorite sites for meeting normal girls. There is no guarantee for sex and it takes a lot of time. But reward you get can be great. I had four great relations with women from Russian cupid last two years. Yes there is a lot of scammers on this site. Stunning model looking girls do know they price in FSU maybe even better then women I western Europe. I don't even know how stupid one need to be to believe that a model looking girl will show you interest and write you a longer letter then two sentences without being a scammer. This is not thailand you want beautiful and classy it dose have a price. There is 100`s of men writing to these girls and you need to show her why you are better for her then others. I normally do opposite of what most men do, don't start acquaintance with cam propositions and have non aggressive approach while still showing interest to a girl. With some it dose work great, with others not. But in general this dose give me results. Only a pity it takes time, but only option for me since I can't travel to FSU for long term stay and date women direct. Lucky ones are that live/work in FSU since they meet women in everydaylife and non tourist places since am sure it gives best results and save you a lot of money.

[Letto]

I haven't been on mamba ru for a long time but I noticed there is less search filters now. Like you can't search for a sponsor etc. Does anyone know what happend or if possible to enable theese again?

[DoctorOral]

Pedros idea is nice. But you cannot be PM-nd. That is bad! I do have some (verified) Mamba contacts to exchange, and you can PM me if you want. I do still look for that teenage, blonde, flat, no-titted deepthroat-CIM-queen. Too much to ask for, I know!

Thanks Pedro. Can you provide al least Genika url I'd (a nine figures number you can find fro example here marked bold.

http://XXXXXX.XX/XXXXXX.phtml?oid=

[strong]718938194[/strong]&hit=10&fromsearch&sp=0).

[SalbatorXXX]

Hi all.

This is my first post and I must already apologize for my english as I'm french (nobody's perfect!)

I've been twice to Kiev : nov 2011 and April 2012.

I've been to lots of eastern europe capital (Prague, Bucharest, Budapest.) but Kiev is by far the best experience on my side.

It's outside the Euro zone so cheaper and inside Shengen so I don't need a visa.

In April I've noticed that prices had already increased probably due to the Euro2012 event.

Cab drivers who were very happy to drive you anywhere inside the center for 50 UAH were asking 80 UAH. Restaurants were more expensive.

I'm planning to go next week to Kiev and I'd like to know if prices have increased a lot due to the Euro2012?

For example, it costed 250$ for 3h to bring home a stunning dancer from Rio and you could find beautiful "independent" girls at buddha bar or D'Lux for about the same price.

Is Rio still the best strip club in Kiev? I've never tried any other one as it was very central and with an almost unlimited choice of girls.

Plus, after reading several posts on this forum, I figured the deal was pretty clear.

For quick & cheap relaxing time before going out, I'll probably book girls at sexkiev. Net top-modals. Com.

You just have to know that all pictures are fake and it's only a matter of liking the girl who shows up or sending her back in a cab.

For 600UAH."you get what you pay for"

I also like to meet girls on mamba and travelgirls as I like to mix pro, semi-pros and newbies / students

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks

[Hectorgonz]

Other than kievapartments. Com are there any other suggestions on getting an apartment? And do most hotels now have issues with bringing back a girl?

[IveyP]

In Mamba you will find a girl that translates into Genika (weird name) she is 18. She will fuck the shit out of you, in a good way! She is fun, happy, pretty, slim and the ass is in the menu. One hundred dollars. I say she is a 7 1/2. Many girls I met in Mamba are not showing now on my search, but I will keep looking.

Thanks Pedro. Can you provide al least Genika url I'd (a nine figures number you can find fro example here marked bold http://XXXXXX.XX/XXXXXX.phtml?oid=[strong]718938194[/strong]&hit=10&fromsearch&sp=0).

[Wildout]

Yes, I have quite a collection from Mamba myself and 'visited' with a few. I would upgrade here, but I have to provide my real name, etc. And I am a married man and quite well known in my business. Too risky.

In Mamba you will find a girl that translates into Genika (weird name) she is 18. She will fuck the shit out of you, in a good way! She is fun, happy, pretty, slim and the ass is in the menu. One hundred dollars. I say she is a 7 1/2. Many girls I met in Mamba are not showing now on my search, but I will keep looking.

Pedro,

Is her name written in Russian / Ukranian? Or is it written as you say "Genika"?

She sounds right up my alley, and I would like to test drive when I get there.

Thanks in advance for sharing.

Wild

[BlancoVikingo]

Hello guys.

I have been member of Latinamerican, Colombian and Brasil-Cupid.

Since a week I'm member on UkraineDate. Com.

On the Latinamerican sites there are of course a lot of prepagos or semi, but also goodlooking serious females. It's a mix.

On UkrianeDate. Com I get interest from girls 8-10, some of them stunning. They are mostly in their late 20th or early 30th, doesn't have children, but want to have.

I have never been on a FSU-site that where serious. They are hopeless.

On Tha Latin-Cupid sites I actually meet the girls, I get their phonenumber and can watch them on webcam. Their interest was aall from sex for money to cecoming friends, having fun and in a few cases, they really wanted marriage. A mix, which is to be expected.

But FSU. It seems hopeless.

I will go to Kiev, but getting female friends on th FSU-sites that can give me usefull info, meeting for a coffee or a beer, still seems like it never will happen. But then I must study their language etc. So aft are a years from now, maybe having been there 2-3 months totally, then I might have figured out how to meet goodlooking girls in FSU.

[Climaxnow]

The "YE" was a widely used term used in Ukraine and Russia especially before the currencies stabilized. It most often used as stand-in for dollars rather than grivnas or rubles, especially true when the exchange rate fluctuated wildly or when people did not trust the local currency. In Russian, it is written as "&1059; &1089; &1083; &1086; &1074; &1085; &1072; &1103; &1045; &1076; &1080; &1085; &1080; &1094; &1072;" (trans: Conventional Unit) so you can see where the "YE" comes from. It most often means dollars and only rarely does it mean euro. Nothing to worry about when you are quoted such prices using these terms. The use of "YE" has made a small comeback in Ukraine.

As for the change in written form, this is an issue with Jackson's software which also is a problem for those of us who can write in Russian or other non-Latin languages.

Thanks UB!