Havana

[Velasco]

This is a good pick-up line. Thanks for your input.

Did that actually just occur to you, really? I have crossed the street to stop a woman and ask for directions in Cuba, and then asked her to walk me to the place although I had a copy of Lonely Planet Cuba in my hands. It was in Santiago, and I wanted to get to the Padre Pico steps. By the time she left me at the steps, we had agreed to meet later on that evening.

[Freedom3]

On my first night I went to Casa de la Musica but never made it there. On my way I met 3 teens who were just hanging outside and ask them for directions. They said why would you go to that Place it's a rip off! If you want to bang hot girls we are all available, for 20 cuc you can have anyone!

This is a good pick-up line. Thanks for your input.

[Start123]

A guy I met on the same flight on my last trip to Havana tells me he banged a 22 year old girl whom he met at La Cecilia who was a VIRGIN, plus he got her in Hotel Comodoro by paying security guy 5 CUCs a DAY, and only spent 100 CUCs on her in the entire WEEK.

If anyone had any of the 3 experiences in Havana, I would love to hear from you.

I don't get it, why is it a joke? The virgin part is unlikely but hey I wasn't there, it's possible. Sometimes you do get a fresh girl who desperately needs money. I spent 4 days with a girl from some small town outside of Havana and gave her 20 CUC and some things I brought with me. She wasn't a virgin but surely never done anything like this before. I met her brother by accident and he hooked me up.

I never stay in a hotel so I don't know about 5 cuc / day. But seems plausible.

The key is to get the hell out of Havana and ask local guys if they can hook you up with someone who is not a pro.

Rock Harders, thanks for a the great idea to quit my Walmart job and go to school. I actually did go to school but I still can't afford lavish lifestyle you have. If you can afford spending that much money, why go to Cuba? Try maybe Brazil or Colombia? Less hustle for sure and quality can be better if you are willing to spend that much.

I will look like a schmuck offering 40 CUC in Casa de la Musica after you went there. And yes, chicas have to pay 5 cuc to get in and all that. The key is to approach them towards the end of the night when it's clear they have almost zero chance of hooking up with someone. They would rather make 20 CUC than leave being in the whole 10 CUC.

On my first night I went to Casa de la Musica but never made it there. On my way I met 3 teens who were just hanging outside and ask them for directions. They said why would you go to that Place it's a rip off! If you want to bang hot girls we are all available, for 20 cuc you can have anyone! We all went to their place as I didn't want to shock my casa owner by bringing 3 girls my first night. It was good times needless to say!

[BeersTerry]

Ya, I had the same experience, in 1991. Too many guys blowing smoke, then again, what do you expect on a free forum.

[Sammytheman]

A guy I met on the same flight on my last trip to Havana tells me he banged a 22 year old girl whom he met at La Cecilia who was a VIRGIN, plus he got her in Hotel Comodoro by paying security guy 5 CUCs a DAY, and only spent 100 CUCs on her in the entire WEEK.

If anyone had any of the 3 experiences in Havana, I would love to hear from you.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Start123, I got this one!

First things first, NOTHING about 'Start123' comment was personal or offensive. However your following comment was! 'I suggest that you quit your

Job at Wal Mart and go back to school so you can enjoy some of the niceties that life offers'

No haters here like you are insinuating but just common sense experienced travellers.

You are in a county where the average salary is around 12-20 cuc a month. Why in earth you will pay 400% of that salary for a couple of hours or all nighters of sex? WHY?

You want luxury and life's niceties as you put it, go to the French Reviera not Cuba!

And it makes no sense that you will spend that much money including air travels just to be with prostitutes! Can't you find young beautiful white women in your town for around $800! Just go to universities and colleges or try the web!

Finally, I am a big believer in live and let live. But when someone is obviously trying to brag about how much money they have spent in a low income country like Cuba and insult low income folks like those working at such places as Wal-Mart I draw the. Just don't bring your arse here and show off with numbers.

You could've done a better and more appropriate job by giving a good qualitative narrative as apposed to a quantitative one. How about some PHOTOS!

BS.

[Kalifornication]

Ok, Rock, . Let's take this down a notch. You make some very good points, . And as for Solon Rojo, and the like, it is true, these girls expect much more than the girls you can find in other provinces. I personally prefer to do my business, when I do my business, outside of Havana. I find the girls in Havana too professional. I have had much much better experiences in other regions for far less money without the stress.

Making statements and comments like this show that you either have never been to Havana or have not been there in at least ten years. I guarantee you there is not a single girl in Salon Rojo who will go for 30 CUC; MAYBE you could beat down a girl to 50 CUC if she is desperate enough, but she would not be happy with that and would probably reward you with a half ass performance. Do you understand that the girls in Salon Rojo have to pay 10-15 CUC to get in AND have to consume at least 5 CUC worth of beverages otherwise they get kicked out? Also they pay for a taxi to get to Salon Rojo, so basically they invest about 25-30 CUC just for the possibility to get a John for the night. I laugh when others complain about paying 70 CUC for an all night deal with a late teens / early twenties smoking hot Cubana.

As for the car the rate I paid is the rate on the REX website and is non-negotiable for the Audi A4 I rented. Why would I want to wait around for a taxi driver to come pick me up when I can have a nice car sitting in my driveway, waiting outside the nightclub, etc waiting to to take me anywhere I want to go at a moment's notice? The standard rate for a top shelf three bedroom private house in Siboney with pool, servants, etc is 300 CUC per night. There are several websites that demonstrate this and there is obviously high demand for this level of accommodations because I have never been able to get the same house twice as they are always booked solid.

There is clearly a high end experience available to mongers with means in Havana that drives the NMG's (no money guys) crazy with envy. If you think that 300 CUC day / 3 people. 200 CUC day / 3 people is expensive for a comfortable and absolutely hassle free (which is not easy to come by in Cuba) vacation then I suggest that you quit your job at Wal Mart and go back to school so you can enjoy some of the niceties that life offers.

[Adinga]

When in Havana avoid Salon Rojo, Johnnys Rio Club and Casa de Musica.

These clubs only attract professional prostitutes and I occasionally go because its a last resort for pussy.

I usually spend 60 cuc for the girls and service is poor to average.

[Rock Harders]

Wow dude! You know those girls at Salon Rojo go for 30-50 CUC no problem! I am talking about top quality too. You spending WAY more money in Cuba! And you paying 200CUC / day just to have a car? This is insane! You can catch a taxi anywhere in Havana for 4-5 CUC to anywhere! And 300 CUC / night for a place- did you stay at Fidel's house?

Making statements and comments like this show that you either have never been to Havana or have not been there in at least ten years. I guarantee you there is not a single girl in Salon Rojo who will go for 30 CUC; MAYBE you could beat down a girl to 50 CUC if she is desperate enough, but she would not be happy with that and would probably reward you with a half ass performance. Do you understand that the girls in Salon Rojo have to pay 10-15 CUC to get in AND have to consume at least 5 CUC worth of beverages otherwise they get kicked out? Also they pay for a taxi to get to Salon Rojo, so basically they invest about 25-30 CUC just for the possibility to get a John for the night. I laugh when others complain about paying 70 CUC for an all night deal with a late teens / early twenties smoking hot Cubana.

As for the car the rate I paid is the rate on the REX website and is non-negotiable for the Audi A4 I rented. Why would I want to wait around for a taxi driver to come pick me up when I can have a nice car sitting in my driveway, waiting outside the nightclub, etc waiting to to take me anywhere I want to go at a moment's notice? The standard rate for a top shelf three bedroom private house in Siboney with pool, servants, etc is 300 CUC per night. There are several websites that demonstrate this and there is obviously high demand for this level of accommodations because I have never been able to get the same house twice as they are always booked solid.

There is clearly a high end experience available to mongers with means in Havana that drives the NMG's (no money guys) crazy with envy. If you think that 300 CUC day / 3 people. 200 CUC day / 3 people is expensive for a comfortable and absolutely hassle free (which is not easy to come by in Cuba) vacation then I suggest that you quit your job at Wal Mart and go back to school so you can enjoy some of the niceties that life offers.

[Sammytheman]

Sure its expensive, but if the guy shared the house with a few friends, its not that bad a deal given the independence of the location and the comfort. And maybe, just maybe, he's got it like that $$$$. I agree with overpaying the girls, let's keep the bar at a reasonable level, say $20-$30 por las chicas.

30 Cucs in Havana? The few girls I offered that much gave me a "are you fucking kidding me?" look!

They kept on saying how they pay 10-15 cucs to get into clubs and if I want to offer that much, go luck country girls.

[Kalifornication]

Sure its expensive, but if the guy shared the house with a few friends, its not that bad a deal given the independence of the location and the comfort. And maybe, just maybe, he's got it like that $$$$. I agree with overpaying the girls, let's keep the bar at a reasonable level, say $20-$30 por las chicas.

That's hilarious!

[Sammytheman]

Wow dude! did you stay at Fidel's house?

That's hilarious!

[Golds]

Yes, you are right max. 50 cuc for Salon Rojo girls.

Wow dude! You know those girls at Salon Rojo go for 30-50 CUC no problem! I am talking about top quality too. You spending WAY more money in Cuba! And you paying 200CUC / day just to have a car? This is insane! You can catch a taxi anywhere in Havana for 4-5 CUC to anywhere! And 300 CUC / night for a place- did you stay at Fidel's house?

[Start123]

Mongers-

I recently returned from another trip to Havana and I am happy to report that the p4p scene is alive and kickin' in the usual spots. As always, I rented a three bedroom house in Siboney with a pool, ate nearly all my meals at the house (lobster, shrimp, avocado, rice and beans every meal) , and rented a car from REX and hired my usual 24 hour "chofer" to drive me around (In fact, I make HIM sign the rental contract, so anything that happens is HIS problem, not mine). The house went for the usual 300 CUC / night, the car was about 150 CUC / day including full CDW insurance, and I pay my driver 50 CUC / day.

As has been the case on my previous trips, the highest quality of girls for my taste were found at Salon Rojo and La Cecilia. Most girls at these places start out asking for 100 CUC but all will easily go down to 70 CUC with minimal haggling. Anything below 70 CUC may be possible with SOME of the girls if you really feel the need to beat them down over another lousy 10 CUC (I never feel the need). Average age for the girls in these places is 19-22 and it seemed half the girls were white and from Camaguey. I would definitely say that at least 90% of the girls in Salon Rojo were white which suits my taste just fine. On some week nights in Salon Rojo there are probably 150 girls and as few as 10 or 15 guys; on the bigger weekend nights (especially if it's raining) Salon Rojo will have many more guys so you need to make your pick a little quicker. All four girls I was with out of these places were up for BBBJCIM and BBFS is promised a little more cash to sweeten the deal.

I went into Casa de la Musica Miramar on a Friday night and did not like the place and left after about thirty minutes; there were maybe 20-25 girls of decent quality but it's not a great vibe in there. Also worth noting is that I went to the beach in front of the Tropicoco Hotel in Santa Maria del Mar (Playas del Este) a few afternoons and there were girls there up for a date (you need to send your driver to get phone number / make arrangements, as there are lots of policia around).

Overall, another fun trip with little logistical hassle apart from leaving a day earlier than planned to beat the arrival of the hurricane.

Rock Harders

Wow dude! You know those girls at Salon Rojo go for 30-50 CUC no problem! I am talking about top quality too. You spending WAY more money in Cuba! And you paying 200CUC / day just to have a car? This is insane! You can catch a taxi anywhere in Havana for 4-5 CUC to anywhere! And 300 CUC / night for a place- did you stay at Fidel's house?

[Kalifornication]

Ok, nice report and to the point. I too will be renting a casa but in Miramar. $300 per night. I'll be having allot of people with me so the price seems better considering that the independence of the casa will reduce unnecessary issues.

Mongers-

I recently returned from another trip to Havana and I am happy to report that the p4p scene is alive and kickin' in the usual spots. As always, I rented a three bedroom house in Siboney with a pool, ate nearly all my meals at the house (lobster, shrimp, avocado, rice and beans every meal) , and rented a car from REX and hired my usual 24 hour "chofer" to drive me around (In fact, I make HIM sign the rental contract, so anything that happens is HIS problem, not mine). The house went for the usual 300 CUC / night, the car was about 150 CUC / day including full CDW insurance, and I pay my driver 50 CUC / day.

As has been the case on my previous trips, the highest quality of girls for my taste were found at Salon Rojo and La Cecilia. Most girls at these places start out asking for 100 CUC but all will easily go down to 70 CUC with minimal haggling. Anything below 70 CUC may be possible with SOME of the girls if you really feel the need to beat them down over another lousy 10 CUC (I never feel the need). Average age for the girls in these places is 19-22 and it seemed half the girls were white and from Camaguey. I would definitely say that at least 90% of the girls in Salon Rojo were white which suits my taste just fine. On some week nights in Salon Rojo there are probably 150 girls and as few as 10 or 15 guys; on the bigger weekend nights (especially if it's raining) Salon Rojo will have many more guys so you need to make your pick a little quicker. All four girls I was with out of these places were up for BBBJCIM and BBFS is promised a little more cash to sweeten the deal.

I went into Casa de la Musica Miramar on a Friday night and did not like the place and left after about thirty minutes; there were maybe 20-25 girls of decent quality but it's not a great vibe in there. Also worth noting is that I went to the beach in front of the Tropicoco Hotel in Santa Maria del Mar (Playas del Este) a few afternoons and there were girls there up for a date (you need to send your driver to get phone number / make arrangements, as there are lots of policia around).

Overall, another fun trip with little logistical hassle apart from leaving a day earlier than planned to beat the arrival of the hurricane.

Rock Harders