FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Hessen Bub]

Tips are a personal issue between the girl and the client. They're no one else's business.

Some people are going to tip. Get used to it.

Absolutely right. You can tip as much as you want, no issues with that. You can also pay 300 EUR for an hour without extras as some customers do because they want to and they can. I was just wondering why the girls are rarely asking me for a tip. But I guess I know why.

HB

[Skalka]

Anyone knows if the german tall and petite Marie continues in oase? Are there girls of just 18 years old?

[Maxime]

When you spoke about CIM in FKK whats most normal, only come in mouth or girl open mouth and come over face too? I ask because I like come over face too not only in mouth.

Of course it depends on girl, etc, but in Germany, most clubs call this (extra) service "Französisch mit Aufnahme" or "Französisch Total" which literally means "Oral with intake / absorption", so Cum In Mouth (CIM).

It seems some girls "like" CIM much more than CIF (Cum in Face) , so they really "vacumize" your "device" when you cum, so nothing comes on their precious skin. On the other hand, I know also several girls that "like" CIF, but no CIM at all.

In my experience with the girls in Oase, the good ones offer a good mix of CIM / CIF, so you get a really good PSE (Porn Star Experience) , and the top ones also keep you looking in the eyes while doing this.

Compared to other clubs in Germany, the best CIM / CIF experiences I got in Oase, but it might be also that is because the extra price of this is +50 euro (in NRW for instance this costs +25 extra, in some clubs even less (Berns 0, Goch +20, etc). And "cheaper" not always means "better" (one Bernds girl was very resistance to offer it, but few months later in Residenz, she offered a top notch CIM/CIF experience (+25 euro)).

On the Dutch fora, CIM is always described as FT (Französisch Total), and CIF as MMT (MiniMe Total, named to some icebear who seems to like this a lot ).

[Arctic]

Its a new girl you are with right? While I often go for an hour (or more), I certainly can't tell up front if I will want an hour or will be totally not wanting to spend any more time with her after 15 minutes. I thought you advocated "go with the flow".

If, at the 30 minutes point you aren't having fun. Then bail out. 50 Euros damage if you haven't cum in her mouth or done anal.

I don't remember the exact words I told the girls. Something like."Let's go for an hour, two hours. Whatever. As long as I'm happy I'll stay and when I'm out of fun or need a break. I'll leave". I don't think I ever went two hours with a girl. I think I did a couple of 1. 5 hour sessions though and those were mostly sessions where I popped and the girl gave me a very good massage which put me to sleep. Louisa was one of those girls and after she serviced me I was exhausted and she gave me a full body rub down. All the way to my toes, she stood up on the end of the bed and held my leg up while she did them! LOL. It was heaven and I fell asleep!

I was happily satisfied by every girl I met at Oase. Including Lucia, who's one of the most notorious sharks there.

But look. I'm an American and though I travel a lot. There is no way I'm going to be visiting the FKK's more than once a year. These girls aren't going to remember my face and I'm not going to be able to develop a rapport with any of them. If you're a regular. You don't want to use my tactics, because you CAN develop a cordial relationship with them. If the girls get to know you as a nice guy who doesn't try to rip them off or make unreasonable demands. You're going to get good service most of the time and you won't have to tell them anything.

And speaking of service. I see a lot of posters here who routinely get good service. Then there are a few posters who constantly belly-ache about poor service. What's the difference? Same girls. It's different customers. My thoughts are, that some guys invite bad service because of their attitude with the girls. What other explanation is there? I'm not going to point out who the posters are because you all know who they are. The guys who NEVER seem to be satisfied. I know that everyone can have a bad experience once in awhile, but if you're one of those who never seems to get good service you might want to re-evaluate your approach.

Pay sex is not my only sexual outlet. Mostly my sexual needs are satisfied by the "free" girls I meet (I put that in quotes because no girl is really "free"). When I do paysex. I'm looking for something beyond the norm. It might be fucking in public, or outside, or it may be deepthroat which a lot of "free" girls don't know how to do. In the case of the Fkk's, the completely naked sexual smorgasbord on display and being treated like a god damn king by the girls it definitely a plus. So when I go to the Fkk's, which is going to be RARE. I'm looking to have fun. I'm not looking to conserve money so that I can come back every day this week and next week for a shag. I'm there and gone in a flash and I want a good time while I'm there. I work hard for my money, and my job is dangerous (I almost was seriously injured on this recent business trip after the Fkk visit). I'm on this planet for a flash and I could be dead tomorrow. So when I go to the Fkk it's to relax and have fun, and not to get too picky with the girls. Therefore, I don't listen to much to people who criticize me for how I "do" it. If they want to criticize. They can buy the girls for me but until that happens it's all hot air to me! .

Just have fun and do it. However you feel it should be done!

[Arctic]

Tips are a personal issue between the girl and the client. They're no one else's business. Doesn't matter if you go to the FKK's every single day and have spent thousands of dollars on the girls there. That does not buy you the right to dictate to another individual what they pay (or don't pay) for sexual services in the FKK.

Some people are going to tip. Get used to it.

That said. It's silly to admit to tipping here on ISG. Since the topic infuriates so many.

Just tip (if you want) but don't bring it up here.

[Dedalus]

I'm glad I read this because I will be on an FKK trip on these exact dates. I'm staying near Oase but will have a car and can go wherever. So Oase will be busier than normal at night, but what about during day while people are at the messe? Is world going to be completely dead with girls going into the city? I have a second trip planned on 10/26-29, perhaps I should wait till then to go to world?

The Buchmesse really doesn't effect Oase all that much. True, the line-up swells a bit, but guest traffic is never all that higher than normal for this particular trade fair.

During pretty much any Messe, even the ones that effect club traffic, it usually doesn't get busy until between 20:30 and 23:00. The Messe halls close at 18:00 and people will often have business dinners right afterwards. I've seen this pretty often, and on these days, it's best to get your sessions in before 20:30. Or, grab a gal for an extended session around 20:00.

In the last few years, Oase Messe traffic has not been nearly what it was pre-2009. Too many clubs in the Hessen area, and more than a few of them have "hostesses" standing outside of the Messe doors at closing time, handing out advertisement flyers. I'm sure Palace still does a brisk trade during Messe periods. Maybe Mainhatten as well. I seen fair to moderately high traffic at Sharks during the winter 2012 Messe period. Sure, Oase has one of the more consistent line-ups of them all, but to the uninformed Messe Besucher, it's just one out of several. E pluribus unum. Aside from high hotel prices, I think Messe periods are often great times to visit Oase. Much better than those damn parties.

World gets some Messe traffic, but nothing major. Might swell up the guest numbers on the weekends a tad. It likely won't be effected by the Buchmesse.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Breadman]

Thank God we have Breadman and HB to learn us non-worthy why we should not tip! Honestly, why on earth are you guys so far from the topic? I did not discuss tipping, but somehow you really want to get back to this subject that has been discussed numerous times before!

You brought up the tipping issue.

I'm fed up with girls with attitudes, that hassle you with upsell, nagging about tip etc. The tip culture has become a plague in Oase. Have all the girls been apprentices in Palace or what? I hope that this tendancy will change for the better, but until then I'll go somewhere else.

I hope you still think the same when you are asked to give tip,

[Ortos]

When you spoke about CIM in FKK whats most normal, only come in mouth or girl open mouth and come over face too? I ask because I like come over face too not only in mouth.

Why don't you simply ask the girl you intend to session with these questions? Do you actually think anybody on this forum (99. 9% men) can answer your question with any degree of accuracy? Do they speak for the girl you might session with?

Most normal is cum in the mouth, exactly what that means. If you want some kind of variation, you will only get your answer from the girl you want to session with.

O

[Nordboer]

When you spoke about CIM in FKK whats most normal, only come in mouth or girl open mouth and come over face too? I ask because I like come over face too not only in mouth.

[Meeps77]

The book fair is fairly busy for the clubs but not as busy as the car show. If you want too much girls then this is the period to go since you get amateurs and girls coming from other clubs to try their luck during the Messe swelling the line up. Expect some extra international men that you would not see normal.

Like during the Automechanika. You see all these men that smell different, look different and act different to what you are used to. It can be fascinating or just damn annoying. I think it is the smell that is most off putting.

I guess you have your hotel sorted out since the prices for a room do go up.

Yes, there were girls moving from the World to the clubs closer to Frankfurt. Primarily, World girls move to Mainhattan as there is an affiliation between Mainhattan and World. Oase management do not like their Oase girls working elsewhere and if they found out then the girl get some heat from management or even sacked.

I'm glad I read this because I will be on an FKK trip on these exact dates. I'm staying near Oase but will have a car and can go wherever. So Oase will be busier than normal at night, but what about during day while people are at the messe? Is world going to be completely dead with girls going into the city? I have a second trip planned on 10/26-29, perhaps I should wait till then to go to world?

[Sucker17]

There you go Sucker17, everytime you read a post and the guy comments about tipping the girl he's ruining it for you. There is no excuse for tipping the girls period. The german's don't tip, its their country so why should these guys be allowed into the clubs who tip the girls? Go a step further, the customs agent should ask all foreigners if they plan on tipping while in the country. If they say yes, they're to be put on the next plane back home.

Thank God we have Breadman and HB to learn us non-worthy why we should not tip! Honestly, why on earth are you guys so far from the topic? I did not discuss tipping, but somehow you really want to get back to this subject that has been discussed numerous times before!

[Smuler]

Where is the love?

Ask Donnie Hathaway and Roberta Flack.

Best Regards,

Smuler

[Syzygies]

In reading my statistic, you should also consider that I am fairly picky, only going for what I consider the top 10-15% of the selection. I imagine that if I dipped below the top 20% that I might have even better success rates on service quality.

Yes we must assume your sampling is not random. People who take time to choose well, will do better (as you probably do) , if they have worked out a reliable selection criteria.

For me:
1. Girls must be pretty and sexy (not too over weight).
2. Girls must not be pushy or aggressive.
3. Girls should not be too full of themselves or arrogant.
4. Prefer girls who seem to do long sessions.
5. Prefer girls who have regular customers (unless they are very new).
6. Girls that are relaxed but not too lazy. Go with the flow type girls rather than procedural.
7. One girl at a time unless you know them both very well.
8. Prefer natural tits not too saggy.
9. Prefer girls who kiss nicely.
10. Prefer girls without too many rules.
11. Prefer girls properly naked. Costumes are a minus.
12. I prefer to approach them, or just give them the look, rather than other way round. Many girls will know from my look, if I want them.
13. Girls that do continual circuits of the club looking for a customer put me off.

Not every one will have identical criteria but its a good idea to understand your own criterai and actually consider it for each girl, rather than letting your dick decide too quickly. Rush of blood often leads to poor choice.

I don't believe it automatically follows that ugly girls give good service, but I haven't tried enough ugly ones to know. Smart girls probably do give better service because they know that getting regular customers and long bookings is key to making the big money.

[Syzygies]

Just wondering the update for the new interior portion of Oase. Planning on heading over from USA second week of November. Hope to see a new refreshed club

Construction has been very slow. I believe they changed construction companies after a dispute.

[Syzygies]

After the first session I found Diana and Alexia and they both remembered me as they recognized me from before. I went with both of them for my second session. We ended up going for 1 hour and the session was good as I had remembered. Neither of them kissed much (Diana a bit more but Alexia very little) but great BBBJ and 69 with each of them.

The other Diana, pretty girl from Dominican republic is an absolutely fabulous kisser, very tight pussy, and bolt-ons (unfortunately) , but otherwise great.