General Info

[Indi Companion]

I emailed some of the clubs to see if they are open during Christmas time (December 24 and 25). Here is what I know so far. Palace will be open on December 24. Also, there is 90% chance that they will be open on December 31. Goldentime is closed on December 24, and will open on 25.

Acapulco and Sharks hold a Silvester Party on 31st last year. I attended the one in Sharks with some friends and it was a lot of fun. With girls from all other clubs attending the party.

[Lalabo]

If the Paradise is open December 24 then maybe Palace open December 24 too. The two clubs have connection, no?

I emailed some of the clubs to see if they are open during Christmas time (December 24 and 25). Here is what I know so far. Palace will be open on December 24. Also, there is 90% chance that they will be open on December 31. Goldentime is closed on December 24, and will open on 25.

[Lalabo]

bo, as long as you are staying in germany for 10 days, i would recommend venturing outside of frankfurt during part of your trip. frankfurt is a nice city, but compared to a city like berlin, it's not very interesting. it does have the advantage of offering relatively easy access to several excellent clubs, three of which i'm familiar with, oase, mainhattan and world. but do you really want to spend most of your time inside the clubs? i prefer to do something else during the day and go to a club at night. there's lots to do and see in berlin, more than enough to hold your interest for a few days. furthermore, artemis is a great club that somehow has a different vibe than the frankfurt clubs. there are also some nice traditional brothels in berlin, inc case you want to try something different. it's easy to travel back and forth between berlin and frankfurt by high-speed train-the trip only takes 4-5 hours, depending on whether you get a direct train or have to make a change somewhere. i would not drive a car from frankfurt to berlin. the car would be useless in the city, as the public transport system is great.

captrenno, i appreciate your response and advice. i am totally with you on sightseeing. i can't imagine spending 10-15 hours a day in clubs, and doing that for 10 days. i thought rental car would give me flexibility to mix sightseeing with primary fun activity unfortunately, weather is a big unknown at this point. i will decide whether to rent a car or not based on the weather conditions when i get there.

i have been tweaking my trip itinerary based on recommendations / advice received so far on this board. here is my current and possibly final version:

frankfurt (4 days) to cologne (2 days) to berlin (2 days) to frankfurt (2 days).

[Yakob]

Paradise in Stuttgart (Leinfelden-Echterdingen) was open on December 24 last year, so there's a chance they will be open that day this year. Check their website.

HB

If the Paradise is open December 24 then maybe Palace open December 24 too. The two clubs have connection, no?

[Yakob]

So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.

I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:

"I'm going to the toilet right now."

Tell the girl: "I am gay." That always gets a laugh from the girl or a confused look.

Conversely, you can say, "I am Lesbian, I like to lick the pussy."

When a girl ask me where my friend is, I sometimes say that,"He has gone to toliet to do a big shit and then he want to book you for the room." It plants an image in the girl's mind and it interesting to see.

[MrCampo]

Does one really new "excuses". Just say NO!

Sometimes at an FKK I just want to relax and watch the scenery. Then I take my time to go to the room. In some clubs the girls are rather aggressive about getting me in a session.

So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.

I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:

"I just came from a room."

"Not now. Maybe later."

"I'm not in the mood right now."

"I've already promised another girl that I'd go with her."

"I'm waiting for dinner. I'm starving."

"Do you smoke? I prefer a non-smoker."

"I'm waiting for a friend who's never been here before. I promised to show him around."

"I just ate dinner and too tired to go with anyone."

"I prefer a blonde / brunette."

"I'm going to the toilet right now."

[Hessen Bub]

It is less easy to find an open club on 24th December than on Christmas.

Paradise in Stuttgart (Leinfelden-Echterdingen) was open on December 24 last year, so there's a chance they will be open that day this year. Check their website.

HB

[Indi Companion]

Oase opens at 1pm or maybe 2 pm on 25 December.

World opens at 3pm on 25 December and has a DJ playing.

Both are good days in the clubs. Depends on what you like.

It is less easy to find an open club on 24th December than on Christmas. Many clubs are open that day. Last years over Christmas and New Year time there were more than reasonably good line-ups in many clubs.

[Yakob]

Also, keep in mind that Christmas day is one day that almost all clubs are closed, I think. I don't know what the lineups will be like during Christmas time, but I would guess that some girls take off during the holidays. But there will always be some girls trying to make money.

Oase opens at 1pm or maybe 2 pm on 25 December.

World opens at 3pm on 25 December and has a DJ playing.

Both are good days in the clubs. Depends on what you like.

[Breadman]

more exotic options like Partytreffs, though I am not yet adventurous enough to try them. I will stick with FKK / Suanas for this trip. with prettier working girls. Let me know if you know of any (other than the ones I have on my list).

Partytreff's exotic? What reports have you been reading? You'll get a run down club, a bunch of run down women who wouldn't be allowed to work in a regular club (ok. 90% you might find one or two girls).

If your going to rent a car, stay outside the large city's and get a hotel that would allow you to club hop. This will also keep any car damage to a minimum since hotels outside of a downtown core will have their own parking lot.

[Forcharles]

Sometimes at an FKK I just want to relax and watch the scenery. Then I take my time to go to the room. In some clubs the girls are rather aggressive about getting me in a session.

So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.

I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:

"I just came from a room."

"Not now. Maybe later."

"I'm not in the mood right now."

"I've already promised another girl that I'd go with her."

"I'm waiting for dinner. I'm starving."

"Do you smoke? I prefer a non-smoker."

"I'm waiting for a friend who's never been here before. I promised to show him around."

"I just ate dinner and too tired to go with anyone."

"I prefer a blonde / brunette."

"I'm going to the toilet right now."

[CaptRenno]

my initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting fkk clubs in and around frankfurt, and visit fkk artemis, berlin for a day or two. after reading various posts on this forum, i realized there are good fkk and suana clubs in nrw area worth visiting. now my plan is to split my time between nrw area and frankfurt. do you guys think this is a good idea?

the list of clubs i would like to visit:

frankfurt: oase, palace, world and mainhattan.

nrw: golden time, samya, living room, acapulco and bernd's.

bo, as long as you are staying in germany for 10 days, i would recommend venturing outside of frankfurt during part of your trip. frankfurt is a nice city, but compared to a city like berlin, it's not very interesting. it does have the advantage of offering relatively easy access to several excellent clubs, three of which i'm familiar with, oase, mainhattan and world. but do you really want to spend most of your time inside the clubs? i prefer to do something else during the day and go to a club at night. there's lots to do and see in berlin, more than enough to hold your interest for a few days. furthermore, artemis is a great club that somehow has a different vibe than the frankfurt clubs. there are also some nice traditional brothels in berlin, inc case you want to try something different. it's easy to travel back and forth between berlin and frankfurt by high-speed train-the trip only takes 4-5 hours, depending on whether you get a direct train or have to make a change somewhere. i would not drive a car from frankfurt to berlin. the car would be useless in the city, as the public transport system is great.

as for whether you need a car to visit the frankfurt clubs, i would say that a car is the best way to get to oase and world. of course, that assumes that you feel comfortable driving in germany, you're not afraid of the possibility of a little bad weather and you bring along a gps with preloaded maps of europe. it's possible to get to oase (fairly easy) and world (less easy) by public transport, but a car is better. you might want to rent a car just for those days when you plan to go to oase and world. there's no point in driving a car to mainhattan and palace.

if you do get a car, you may want to stay outside the downtown core, because driving in the downtown of a big european city is not fun. parking is expensive. if i had a car in frankfurt, i would consider staying at the airport (the hilton garden inn is nice) where parking and access is easy. there are excellent public transport (s-bahn) connections from the airport to downtown.

one downside of a car is the cost of the rental. it's more expensive than the usa and you might find that the total cost of public transport and taxis is cheaper than a car, especially if you are the only driver and not sharing the cost.

also, keep in mind that christmas day is one day that almost all clubs are closed, i think. i don't know what the lineups will be like during christmas time, but i would guess that some girls take off during the holidays. but there will always be some girls trying to make money.

[Lalabo]

Check out Dietzenbach. By far the best value for money.

For traditional FKK clubs, probably not worth the effort; there are enough in and around Frankfurt. However, if you are into Partytreffs, definitely go to NRW, since there are no good ones in or near Frankfurt. Check out the Partytreff forum. In particular, I recommend Partytreff Mettmann, especially when Ute is there. Do you want the best sexual experience you have ever had? That would be a "normal" session with Ute.

Regardless of the weather, I wouldn't recommend a rental car inside a large city, even if you are familiar with the city and traffic. Go with public transportation or taxi if you are coming back late.

Thank you SvenFKK and Vito Corleone for your responses.

SvenFKK,

I am glad to know that NRW area offers more exotic options like Partytreffs, though I am not yet adventurous enough to try them. I will stick with FKK / Suanas for this trip. I am new this hobby, and I kind of prefer safer (hence boring.) sex options. With that said, I rather go to FKK / Saunas with prettier working girls. Let me know if you know of any (other than the ones I have on my list).

I appreciate the info you have provided. I am reconsidering my trip to cologne. Worst case, I may go there for a day or two. I will try to check out Dietzenbach.

[SvenFKK]

I am planning a 10 day trip to Frankfurt, Germany starting December 21, 2012. I live in USA and this is my first mongering trip. I have been reading (as much as I can) the wealth of useful information available on ISG forum.

Good idea to come here, and a good source of information.

My initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting FKK clubs in and around Frankfurt,

Check out Dietzenbach. By far the best value for money.

I realized there are good FKK and Suana clubs in NRW area worth visiting. Now my plan is to split my time between NRW area and Frankfurt. Do you guys think this is a good idea?

For traditional FKK clubs, probably not worth the effort; there are enough in and around Frankfurt. However, if you are into Partytreffs, definitely go to NRW, since there are no good ones in or near Frankfurt. Check out the Partytreff forum. In particular, I recommend Partytreff Mettmann, especially when Ute is there. Do you want the best sexual experience you have ever had? That would be a "normal" session with Ute.

Out of the travel options available to get to the clubs (Public transportation + taxi, taxi and rental car) , I am leaning towards rental car as it offers convenience and flexibility. My plan is to stay near main train station both in Frankfurt and Cologne and get to clubs by rental car. My concern is the weather and road conditions. If weather conditions are bad for driving, I may consider public transportation.

Regardless of the weather, I wouldn't recommend a rental car inside a large city, even if you are familiar with the city and traffic. Go with public transportation or taxi if you are coming back late.

Can any of you give me some info about the typical weather and road conditions during the last 2 weeks of December? Specifically, about the road conditions in getting to above mentioned NRW area clubs from Cologne.

December will be cold. Whether or not it is wet, if there is snow etc is hard to say. In general, heavily travelled roads will be cleared but smaller ones (some of the clubs are rather out of the way) might not be.

I am worried about snow and sleet at night. How safe (from weather point of view) is it to drive after midnight when the temperature is at its low?

In general I wouldn't worry about the weather if you are a careful driver. However, you might want to go without a car for other reasons.

[Lalabo]

Hello, everyone!

I am planning a 10 day trip to Frankfurt, Germany starting December 21, 2012. I live in USA and this is my first mongering trip. I have been reading (as much as I can) the wealth of useful information available on ISG forum. I thank all the forum contributors. It would be a great help if expects on this forum can provide me answers to a few weather and road condition related questions.

My initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting FKK clubs in and around Frankfurt, and visit FKK Artemis, Berlin for a day or two. After reading various posts on this forum, I realized there are good FKK and Suana clubs in NRW area worth visiting. Now my plan is to split my time between NRW area and Frankfurt. Do you guys think this is a good idea?

The list of clubs I would like to visit:

Frankfurt: Oase, Palace, World and Mainhattan.

NRW: Golden Time, Samya, Living Room, Acapulco and Bernd's.

Out of the travel options available to get to the clubs (Public transportation + taxi, taxi and rental car) , I am leaning towards rental car as it offers convenience and flexibility. My plan is to stay near main train station both in Frankfurt and Cologne and get to clubs by rental car. My concern is the weather and road conditions. If weather conditions are bad for driving, I may consider public transportation.

Can any of you give me some info about the typical weather and road conditions during the last 2 weeks of December? Specifically, about the road conditions in getting to above mentioned NRW area clubs from Cologne.

I am worried about snow and sleet at night. How safe (from weather point of view) is it to drive after midnight when the temperature is at its low?

Thanks in advance.

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Bo