Manila

[Soapy Smith]

Was checking airfares from Orlando to Manila. Found a great fare $825. Booked it right away on united Orlando- Sfo-Honolulu-Guam- Manila route.

Landed in Manila at about 9 PM.

I agree it's a great price. Just curious, how long does this Orlando to Manila flight take? Seems like a lot of stops, but it's not unlike flights on the old Northwest routes through Detroit. This seems to be one of the best times of the year for airfares, and the Phils weather is starting to get a little more mild.

[Sammon]

was checking airfares from orlando to manila. found a great fare $825. booked it right away on united orlando- sfo-honolulu-guam- manila route.

landed in manila at about 9 pm. i had arranged a dia chatmate to meet me at the airport. she had told me that she can take the bus from cavite and her and her cousin who happens to be a cab driver will meet me. turned out they were nowhere to be seen. went to a cute girl selling load for smart and loaded my phone. the cute girl was asking me personal questions like where i come from, if i am alone etc. should have asked for her phone number but was tired after a long flight. anyway turned out my girl and the cabbie was waiting in the wrong terminal. after about 20 minute wait they picked me up and got us to the hotel.

the girl is quite pretty with a nice body. but the problem was she had hint of a smelly pussy. did not notice it after a few rounds of sex. girl was very accomodating and simple girl. she is 19 year old with a 2 year old boy. kept her for two nights. gave her some money and was appreciative. since she did not have a job could be freelance sex worker part time. if it is this explains the smell.

i had chatted with a 22 year old to be with me next. this one is thin as a rail but can pass as a model. small boobs. zero smelly pussy this one which i am used to with all of my dia girls. great sex. she is a trainee massage therapist presently working as a receptionist. after sex she would give me nice one hour massage. she told me she is like a energiser bunny and never gets tired. definitely has plenty of stamina. we went to the malls, movie and a disco. dresses up well and with her model looks turned quite a few heads. kept her for two nights and once again no demands and appreciated my money gift. definitely the one to be repeated.

off to cebu on my planned manila. cebu. ac. manila. back route. next report in cebu section.

[TriKey43]

Hey all. Long time member of USASG posting in ISG for the first time.

Hit up EDSA for some, of course, punani. Saw mamasan of Firehouse who has taken care of my goodfriend with many awesome suggestions previously. She immediately recognized him and walked us in, each one on her arms. This is the way to get the gurls' attention if you want them to know you are there. Heh heh. Took a seat at the far corner of the bar, bought her a drink and cut chatted with her for a bit. She recommended a couple of girls for us that were just fine in the looks and body departmentt I didn't click with mine so I asked for number 36. (found out the numbers are assigned according to arrival times. The girls that arrive early get lower numbers).

She was a firecrackerand had a body like the provider I see locally. 5ft. 90lbs. 32b's.

Here is the kicker. Talked with mama San and / with the girl. Negotiated 1650p for LT. All was good until the next morning where I would illicit the guys' opinion on here.

In the morning, as she was about to leave, she asked for her pay. WTF? She claims the bar fine is only for EWR and her services are separate. She stated that 3000p is for ST on top of the bar fine, hinting that what I now owed her would be even more. When I pressed her for an explanation she answered that EDSA bars don't share the BF with the girls, that it was the policy of an agreement with owners of EDSA bars (I thought it was a single owner of the facility) and that for 3000ST, the LT would be double that. Well, I offered her to go down to Firehouse and apologize to the MS or the misunderstanding as a way to confront her in front of the MS with this news. Damn be*h tried to pull a fast one on me. Girl's name is Jinky. Beck, even took her to eat and gave her chocolates.

The opinion I am searching for is in regards to telling MS about her. Any opinions?

V Rider

The same thing happen to me when I went to the Firehouse at EDSA. As soon as I walked in, a girl in all black bikini and about 5 feet tall, petite rubbed against my back as she passed by me and smiled. Came back later and sat next to me, we talked for awhile, until the papa San came up and quoted me 4000 peso for the girl plus lady drinks. I looked at him dead in the eye to see if he was serious! You've got to be kidding me? And I immediately left the firehouse after paying for the lady drinks totally 350 peso. No way! Am, I going to pay this kind of money afterall, I am getting less pesos to dollar exchange rate.

Cheers.

[Hatguy]

Manila weekend.

After taking a sick day I had a 4 day weekend in Ermita to hang out and relax. My home base is Japan so its less than 4 hours to Manila. My flight left at about 5pm and after being squashed by the enormously fat Japanese guy next to me the whole way AND putting up with his talking to himself constantly we approached Manila. With about an hour to go, the attendants said that some one had been caught smoking in the toilets. Can't believe someone would be that stupid. End result? Cops waiting for the flight at the ramp!

Dramatic! LOL.

Zoomed through immigration. Found the elevator to 2nd floor around to the right and went up there. Grabbed a taxi that had just pulled in. Guy didn't know LA cafe! Haha. I did though.

No way the same guy would know Duck Inn where I stayed so just walked up there. Not a bad place to stay. Quiet on the non street side of the building. Price was right.

I had arranged a meeting with a girl I found last trip. 24 and about 4 ft 11 that claimed to be bi. She is! Unknown to me she had a friend on standby. Met us after work (bar) and we had a good few rounds. I gave her friend 1800 for coming. Her attitude was great and she got really wet.

This was a budget trip for me between a Thailand excursion and my end of year fun. So I was just doing these two plus recon on other places.

MBC has the odd gem but seemed mainly to be ugly girls. Too many desperate ones. I saw one I fucked before but couldn't agree to a price so didn't go together. Ah well.

I went to Butterfly bar to catch up with the manager Aussie Greg. This place was more to my liking. Good conversation and a few FLs as well. Nearly went with one for 1000 that looked ok inside but outside in light of day was no good so I called it off.

And Amazonia was ok. Just ok this time. Being swamped is not my idea of fun. Especially by older hags. Ew! The staff there are friendly. That makes up for it in my book.

I really like Hussy bar. Went there last time in June and again this time. Some really nice girls. We found one that was new to the game. Really shy and cute. Bought her a drink and got a nice kiss when we were leaving. Pleasant with no drink pressure because I was with my girl.

Headed to the casino for a flutter. One tip I have for all: take cabs from the hyatt casino if you can. They have security and trusted cabbies that wait exclusively for jobs from there. The cunts in front of MBC ask for 100 no matter how close you are staying. If you are with a Pinay get them to tell cabbie "meter or we get out."

I went to G Point. What a great place. Good music and cute girls around too. Better than MBC in many respects. Might go back in Jan on my way out.

It was very quiet there and I wondered if it was off season. The only busy place seemed to be mall of Asia. Movie ticket was 200p. Cheap and good seats! In Japan we pay 6 times that!

Hat

[Sir Lancelot]

If you post a picture on a sex tourism site showing the face of one of the girls, regardless whether she is naked or clothed, you are telling the world-and any of her friends or family who sees it-that she is "in the business."

I found your diary posts from your recent trip tasteful and respectful toward the women.

This is exactly why I stopped posting my photos on any free sites.

Thank you for your comment. I think one of the surprising things about the mongering lifestyle in Asia is how fantasically good-humoured, open and friendly the girls are (when compared to prostitutes from the west). I think these girls are amongst the most sane, level-headed people I've met! These girls have a tough life and make big sacrifices, often for their family, so I like to treat them with the respect they deserve.

[WhatsUrName]

Whether or not you make money is not the question here. My issue with you, once again, is that you decided to sell your sex trip reports with their pictures in them without asking for their permission.

Sir Lancelot, thank you for the contribution last month regarding your extensive field report. You finished it just as I was leaving for PI, and it was a big help to me, especially the AC part. It will also be a big help for others moving forward. I've been following your posts for awhile, and you seem to be a well-mannered, intelligent contributor to the boards.

You and Danibbler obviously have some history going on the many of us don't know about, and probably don't want to know about. FWIW, I'll give my opinion on the subject of posting pictures of girls. On my recent trip, I did take some pictures of my girls to document my trip. All were fully clothed, no porn or nudity. Now some of these girls I really liked, not in a "love" type of way, but I simply clicked with some of the girls and consider them friends. I made a conscious decision to not post any pictures of these girls, even though some are cute as a button. There are some ethics involved in my decision. That was my personal decision, If others decide to post photos, I'll look at them.

I see that you have considered the ethics of publicly posting photos, and that at one point you did post them, but have since changed your mind to not post them publicly due to the ethics of it. I support that. You also seem to regret posting them in the past. That's cool. We all make mistakes and learn from them.

Danibbler, it would be great if you and SL could just drop this. It sounds a little moot since SL is no longer posting photos and not selling his diaries anymore. Thanks in advance.

[Sir Lancelot]

My issue with you, once again, is that you decided to sell your sex trip reports with their pictures in them without asking for their permission.

You're not listening to what I am saying. I thought I explained this in my last comment but I suspect you are being deliberately ignorant. For a short while I charged a small fee for my diaries which acted as a barrier, so that people couldn't stumble upon the pics. You could say that by selling the diaries I actually protected the girls, so that their friends or family couldn't see them. I did have the opportunity to sell my diaries on a public site for quite a substantial amount of money but I chose not to because it didn't seem right. Contrary to what you think, I do respect the girls.

I also have to say that your talk of model release forms is extremely naïve. I have worked in the publishing industry and model release forms are required whether the publication makes money or not. In which case, if you were to be consistent, you would criticise every single person who has posted photos on this forum. But you don't. Instead you email them asking for contact details of girls you find attractive. You are a hypocrite with inconsistent moral values. You call me out for exploiting girls and yet don't all sex tourists, yourself included? You call me out for not getting the girls to sign a model release form and yet you don't criticise anyone else who posts photos. You go purple faced with rage because you THINK I make money out of these photos and yet you freely admit to reading ISG and Thommo's website, which publish photos of girls and make money. Your morals are all over the place.

Ahhh, thanks for remembering about Thommo. You used his site and this site and who knows what other sites to plan your trips. No worries about that. I was cheesed off when you decided to package that and sell them off. That's not really giving back is it?

What on earth are you talking about? What is wrong with researching extensively before I go away? Isn't that the clever thing to do? Surely that is the whole point of these forums. You do it as well. The only difference is that unlike you, I post my findings when I return.

How can you possibly say that I am not really giving anything back? I've just posted a 40, 000 word diary on the Philippines threads! On my last trip to Phils I posted a 35, 000+ word diary. I didn't make any money at all from these, I just painstakingly researched, wrote and edited these diaries to share info. For both diaries I was inundated with positive feedback and PM's saying 'thank you' and yet it's funny how one ignorant hypocrite like you can make me wonder why bother in future.

That's not what I heard.

I'm not interested in your amateur super-sleuthing. It's all terribly 'playground' to me. Whether I send PM's has absolutely no releveance to your original point about the photos which just leads me to the conclusion that you are losing the plot.

I'm pretty sure that people on this thread aren't in the slightest bit interested in this debate. If you do have anything else to say, feel free to PM me and I will respond. I am happy to discuss things maturely but only if you are prepared to listen and accept what I have to say. At the moment you are just being stubborn and not listening, so we're going around in circles.

[Danibbler]

The question is how much funds are they going to allocate to this and are they going to take this seriously or is it going to be just another tool in oppressing democracy.

It's all about the money, if they can make a big PR stink about it then so much the better.

[Danibbler]

although the Filipino's have a great reputation of talking about things but doing nothing.

Ohhhh. A lot of people all over the world are guilty of this!

[Danibbler]

You've made a lot of false assumptions. You paint a picture that I'm an evil sex baron, exploiting the girls and getting filthy rich from selling my diaries online. That's just not the case. For a while I decided to charge a very small fee for my diaries so that for people to read them, they would need a PayPal account. It was a barrier to stop the wrong people from reading them. If my diaries were all about making money as you wrongly assume, I would have put effort in to promoting the site but I didn't. Furthermore I was approached by another website offering me money to sell my diaries but I declined because it was a public site. I could have made money but I chose not to because the site was accessible by anyone. Contrary to what you may think, I do have a conscience and I do respect the girls.

I would also like to make a few more points. My website is no longer running and although I used to post pics of girls on ISG with my diary, I no longer do so. The pics I used to post were head shots and fully clothed. The only naked photos I have ever taken, the girl jumped on to the bed and ordered me to take them! I always tip generously whenever a girl agrees to pose for photos and whenever I mention girls in my reports, I change their name.

Whether or not you make money is not the question here. My issue with you, once again, is that you decided to sell your sex trip reports with their pictures in them without asking for their permission.

Again, you're simply wrong. I'm getting the impression that you're not terribly bright. Use your brain to put it in to chronological order. We had a discussion on the Jakarta thread over a year ago and if you re-read it, you will see that I was seriously debating the ethics of posting photos back then. Since then I stopped, not because of what you said but because I felt it was the right thing to do. I haven't posted any photos since so quite where you get the idea that I shrugged off your warnings and 'went ahead' I don't know.

My memory's quite good so I am not going to go back to the Jakarta thread but our discussion then was not about you posting the pics. If that was the issue, I would have mentioned this a long time ago to other posters about them posting their pics in the galleries. So, the only reason we would have had a discussion is you selling your sex journals without asking for a model release form.

What on earth you do mean 'troll the boards'? Yes I used Thommo's website, a veritable goldmine of information, but then I posted huge field reports on his site! I even wrote weekly blogs for it! Similarly I use ISG to research trips but every year I post a huge diary. Maybe you were too busy frothing at the mouth to notice that I have recently completely posting a 40, 000 word diary on the Angeles, Manila, Cebu and Other Towns threads? Where does 'trolling' come in to it? I give back plenty to this site which is surely what this forum is all about.

You on the other hand contribute nothing. You've posted 90 times in threads like Hong Kong, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Singapore, Toronto to help plan your trips and yet only once have you posted anything that even slightly resembles a field report (a very short piece without any useful information whatsoever except 'ooo the girls were ugly'). You take, take, take but you give nothing, so don't lecture me on my use of the forum.

Ahhh, thanks for remembering about Thommo. You used his site and this site and who knows what other sites to plan your trips. No worries about that. I was cheesed off when you decided to package that and sell them off. That's not really giving back is it?

As for my contributions, once again, please don't try to turn the tables around. It'd be difficult for me to ask 90+ times for how to find a place when I can easily just read it somewhere.

Edit: I was curious so I decided to go through some of my 90 posts and, while it is true that I don't post field reports (I don't have a journalist background like you do), it's far from true that I don't post anything useful. But, hey, nice try at making me look bad.

Why is it relevant that I have sent people private messages on this board. Not that I feel the need to defend myself but I have only replied to people who have sent me a PM, usually thanking me for my diaries.

That's not what I heard.

And what on earth do you mean you would be afraid I would steal it? You remind me of a kid I used to argue with in the playground when I was about ten years old, who would try to bring lots of other things in to arguments as an act of desperation. I have never 'stolen' anything so please feel free to explain that one to me.

Please refer to my "trolling" comment.

To be honest, I'm confused about your logic regarding exploitation. It could be argued that any of us who goes to Asia to have sex with girls is exploiting them. It could be argued that anyone who takes photos and posts them on websites are exploiting them. But in your mind it's only exploitation if the photos are used to gain money? In which case, why do you use this forum or Thommo's website? Both make money and both include lots of photos of girls.

To clarify, I use this forum to gain information to plan my trips. I then post HUGE diaries on the forum afterwards, giving a huge amount of relevant information back. I used to post photos but I don't any more. Tell me what part of that is wrong.

To clarify, once again, you decided to package publicly available information along with pictures of the ladies in question into sex journals to sell online without asking the ladies' permission beforehand. Please try to focus.

[Soapy Smith]

The pics I used to post were head shots and fully clothed.

If you post a picture on a sex tourism site showing the face of one of the girls, regardless whether she is naked or clothed, you are telling the world-and any of her friends or family who sees it-that she is "in the business."

I found your diary posts from your recent trip tasteful and respectful toward the women.

[Sir Lancelot]

The point was that you were making money off of sex guides and using the girls' pics without telling them.

You've made a lot of false assumptions. You paint a picture that I'm an evil sex baron, exploiting the girls and getting filthy rich from selling my diaries online. That's just not the case. For a while I decided to charge a very small fee for my diaries so that for people to read them, they would need a PayPal account. It was a barrier to stop the wrong people from reading them. If my diaries were all about making money as you wrongly assume, I would have put effort in to promoting the site but I didn't. Furthermore I was approached by another website offering me money to sell my diaries but I declined because it was a public site. I could have made money but I chose not to because the site was accessible by anyone. Contrary to what you may think, I do have a conscience and I do respect the girls.

I would also like to make a few more points. My website is no longer running and although I used to post pics of girls on ISG with my diary, I no longer do so. The pics I used to post were head shots and fully clothed. The only naked photos I have ever taken, the girl jumped on to the bed and ordered me to take them! I always tip generously whenever a girl agrees to pose for photos and whenever I mention girls in my reports, I change their name.

I warned you over and over again to ask permission but you went ahead.

Again, you're simply wrong. I'm getting the impression that you're not terribly bright. Use your brain to put it in to chronological order. We had a discussion on the Jakarta thread over a year ago and if you re-read it, you will see that I was seriously debating the ethics of posting photos back then. Since then I stopped, not because of what you said but because I felt it was the right thing to do. I haven't posted any photos since so quite where you get the idea that I shrugged off your warnings and 'went ahead' I don't know. The incident in Manila Bay Café harks back to my trip two years ago when photos of my diary were posted on Thommo's site.

I am not the one who trolls the boards for information (Hello Thommo) , and then uses that info to publish sex guides

What on earth you do mean 'troll the boards'? Yes I used Thommo's website, a veritable goldmine of information, but then I posted huge field reports on his site! I even wrote weekly blogs for it! Similarly I use ISG to research trips but every year I post a huge diary. Maybe you were too busy frothing at the mouth to notice that I have recently completely posting a 40, 000 word diary on the Angeles, Manila, Cebu and Other Towns threads? Where does 'trolling' come in to it? I give back plenty to this site which is surely what this forum is all about.

You on the other hand contribute nothing. You've posted 90 times in threads like Hong Kong, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Singapore, Toronto to help plan your trips and yet only once have you posted anything that even slightly resembles a field report (a very short piece without any useful information whatsoever except 'ooo the girls were ugly'). You take, take, take but you give nothing, so don't lecture me on my use of the forum.

I'd ask you to PM me (as you've done others on the board) to get a link to that review on another board but I'd be afraid that you'd steal it.

I don't know where to begin with this comment. Why is it relevant that I have sent people private messages on this board. Does it somehow all tie in to me being an evil mastermind in your head? Not that I feel the need to defend myself but I have only replied to people who have sent me a PM, usually thanking me for my diaries. And what on earth do you mean you would be afraid I would steal it? You remind me of a kid I used to argue with in the playground when I was about ten years old, who would try to bring lots of other things in to arguments as an act of desperation. I have never 'stolen' anything so please feel free to explain that one to me.

Please don't try to make this about me.

Just to remind you, you called my behaviour 'reprehensible' for 'exploiting' girls and you said that you hoped that I would 'get mine', whatever that means, all based on a series of incorrect assumptions. I do apologise if it seems like I'm now attacking you!

To be honest, I'm confused about your logic regarding exploitation. It could be argued that any of us who goes to Asia to have sex with girls is exploiting them. It could be argued that anyone who takes photos and posts them on websites are exploiting them. But in your mind it's only exploitation if the photos are used to gain money? In which case, why do you use this forum or Thommo's website? Both make money and both include lots of photos of girls.

To clarify, I use this forum to gain information to plan my trips. I then post HUGE diaries on the forum afterwards, giving a huge amount of relevant information back. I used to post photos but I don't any more. Tell me what part of that is wrong.

[FreebieFan]

Oh, I am sure, Filipino style, they will work on foreigners first, and forget about natives slandering on anybody. After all, Foreigners property, if they have, can be forfeited or fined massively. Foreigners must learn to respect locals right? LOL. That will be the biggest excuse, for prioritising foreigners.

Then again, like the couple who were wrongly accused of murdering the kid Ella Joy (in the Bella Ruby case.) have no recourse other than to be spat upon, threatened with murder and basically their name splattered all over the world.

Oh, BTW, the 'emotional' and 'strong willed' filipinos are on a campaign, to show their anger, by placing a black ribbon across their facebook profiles. As if that's going to work. Don't tell them otherwise.

Well said. The am, e ribbons were used by the "puritans" against the Reproductive Health Bill. Big ribbons outside their houses in Ayala Alabang. The same houses where the wife is quite chaste, does it misionary style once a week and is always in church on Sunday. Husband supports the act, but in between supporting it, is in the best KTV places in QC with his governement buddies but on sundays gives the most in the collection box. Sad and hypocritical. And yes these are always tthe first to have a go at the foreigners no matter how small our numbers are.

[Econo Tech]

Yep its a big issue at the moment. Slandering Filipino police is now a crime and they can bring charges against you. Also they intend to monitor lots of "suspicious activities" among them cyber sex. I can see this being clamp down on illegal operators and freelance cam girls. The question is how much funds are they going to allocate to this and are they going to take this seriously or is it going to be just another tool in oppressing democracy.

Oh, I am sure, Filipino style, they will work on foreigners first, and forget about natives slandering on anybody. After all, Foreigners property, if they have, can be forfeited or fined massively. Foreigners must learn to respect locals right? LOL. That will be the biggest excuse, for prioritising foreigners.

Then again, like the couple who were wrongly accused of murdering the kid Ella Joy (in the Bella Ruby case.) have no recourse other than to be spat upon, threatened with murder and basically their name splattered all over the world.

Oh, BTW, the 'emotional' and 'strong willed' filipinos are on a campaign, to show their anger, by placing a black ribbon across their facebook profiles. As if that's going to work. Don't tell them otherwise.

[Red Kilt]

Thanks. Was unaware of the new cybercrime bill. Got a link to read up on it?

WC

Try these for starters WC.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=63

http://technology.inquirer.net/17792...on-act-de-lima