Sao Paulo Reports

[Prosal]

http://oglobo.globo.com/economia/rio...geiros-6479503

Greengo

Interesting. Some guys could object that you can eat in comida a kilo restaurants, drink in cheap places, sleep in sleazy hotels, ect, but who what kind of loser wants to be cheap in vacations?

[Prosal]

Uzbekistan? For vacation?

Yes. It's now my fav vacation destination. I was there recently. Tashkent is a highly enjoyable and clean city, climate is just perfect (nonetheless a bit too hot in summer) , and cost of life is next to nothing. The women are something to behold and incredibly diverse, there is an abundance of blond Slavs, Persians, Tatars, Central Asians, Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, Chechens, etc) , Koreans, and just about everything in between. The ethnicities and the mixtures in Uzbekistan are the result of centuries of diverse invasions and of forced relocations during the Soviet period (some 1. 500 000 Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, people from Caucasus region, ect were relocated to Tashkent by Stalin during WW2). Truly exotic. Furthermore, Uzbekistan is culturally as interesting, if not more, than Brasil (Silk Road cities are a wonder).

Autumn in Tashkent:

[Greengo]

http://oglobo.globo.com/economia/rio...geiros-6479503

Greengo

[Eric Cartman]

+1. Rs300 is normal (and even rather cheap) for a world-class city flooded by money as Sao Paulo. Some guys don't have a clue about what is brasilian economy nowadays (rolleyes).

Agree here. Senior execs in SP are routinely sucking down R$20. 000+ per month in salary, often times a lot more. And that's not even including the really wealthy guys. Honestly R$20K isn't that much even by US standards. But it puts throwing R$300 into perspective, if you're spending it 2 or 3 or 6 or 8 times per month.

It's unfortunate. But it's the current economic truth. The latest union-guaranteed raises in RJ for IT employees was 6. 7% (if you had worked a full year). Inflation is still an issue. It affects the garotas as much as the execs.

[Eric Cartman]

You bet.

I used to spend 80-100 euros a day long term arrangement. Nowadays 200 euros are not enough.

That's why I moved again to the Far East.

I know a guy here who pays his live-in "girlfriend" an allowance of R$5000 per month. That should tell you something.

[Eric Cartman]

Today, all bets are off in Brasil as the country is flush with cash. Todays Brasil is not the Brasil of 10 years ago or even of 5 years ago.

In Tashkent, I spend at max 100 €/day, including accommodation, to live like a rock-star (many GFs, upscale restaurants, bottles in clubs, ect). And if I am drunk at 3 am and don't get any non-pro that night, P4P is available for 100 us$ LT for quality Russian pussy.

Uzbekistan? For vacation?

[Kopkid]

Thanks Altobomgosto for your input, managed to try Dani who is now at Redway, sweet pretty black beauty, awesome BBBJ, tight body. Bty you did mention about an outlet Asiangirls, only for asian clients, please share!

[Knowledge]

I think some guys probably have to work while they are in Sao Paulo.

That is right if you are strictly a monger and if your goal is solely to get laid once or twice a day with prostitutes (but why coming all the way to SP in this case, it's much cheaper to do it at home) , but some guys are ALSO thirsty and prodigal party-goers who want to take advantage of the astoundingly good, fun and diverse Sao Paulo's nightlife (both for pros and non-pros venues). Going to Sao Paulo, which is South America's nightlife capital, and going to sleep at 10 pm is IMO simply silly.

[Prosal]

You bet.

I used to spend 80-100 euros a day long term arrangement. Nowadays 200 euros are not enough.

That's why I moved again to the Far East.

Today, all bets are off in Brasil as the country is flush with cash. Todays Brasil is not the Brasil of 10 years ago or even of 5 years ago.

In Tashkent, I spend at max 100 €/day, including accommodation, to live like a rock-star (many GFs, upscale restaurants, bottles in clubs, ect). And if I am drunk at 3 am and don't get any non-pro that night, P4P is available for 100 us$ LT for quality Russian pussy.

Sao Paulo (and more globally Brasil) , despite all its wonders, is definitely off list for me.

[Prosal]

R$ 250, 00 / day average Av. Paulista area hotel, R$ 50, 00 per meal, garotas between R$ 120, 00 at RedWay / Vanís Way and R$ 300, 00 for an independent escort!

That is right if you are strictly a monger and if your goal is solely to get laid once or twice a day with prostitutes (but why coming all the way to SP in this case, it's much cheaper to do it at home) , but some guys are ALSO thirsty and prodigal party-goers who want to take advantage of the astoundingly good, fun and diverse Sao Paulo's nightlife (both for pros and non-pros venues). Going to Sao Paulo, which is South America's nightlife capital, and going to sleep at 10 pm is IMO simply silly.

[AltoBomGosto]

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.

R$ 250, 00 / day average Av. Paulista area hotel, R$ 50, 00 per meal, garotas between R$ 120, 00 at RedWay / Vanís Way and R$ 300, 00 for an independent escort!

[Prosal]

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.

This is actually a minimum. I'd say that it is even a minimum for the running costs like accommodation, food and taxis, but without any partying and mongering option. And I'm not talking about 5 stars hotels and fancy restaurants. A night at a Mercure Aparthotel costs about 100/120 €, and a diner at a mid-level churrascaria like Fogo do Chao about 60 €/person now. Add some taxis, some snacks for lunch, laundry at the hotel, ect, ect, and you easily arrive at 200/250 € per day.

Then add your budget for drinks and entrance in boites, strip bars, clubs (WHAT, some people go to Sao Paulo without stepping a foot in Love Story, the best pick up club on the planet in the history of mankind?) , ect. For me, another 300 €/day minimum (bottle at Love Story must be around 150 € now). And then add the girls.

By the way, I personally see nothing exciting in mass service joints like prives with their disgusting waste baskets full of cum-soaked tissues next to the bed. Sorry ABG. The whole point about Sao Paulo is IMO its fabulous mid-to-upper level "boites", where atmosphere is usually great and the girls gorgeous, where there is sometimes live music or at least a good DJ, where you can dance with the girls and flirt a bit before settling (or not) on a choice, where you can eat sushis or whatever, where you can watch great strip shows, and which often add to the drinking and partying pleasures architectural features that one can seldom find around the world in this kind of etablishments.

[AltoBomGosto]

[B]Now she is an independent escort :

http://www.kissclass.com/modelos/nataliamazonni.html

Have fun!

[El Greco]

Some guys don't have a clue about what is brasilian economy nowadays (rolleyes).

You bet.

I used to spend 80-100 euros a day long term arrangement. Nowadays 200 euros are not enough.

That's why I moved again to the Far East.

[Almotu]

If I want to rent a hotel for 12 days, see about 12 providers and visit some places like night clubs, nude clubs, red district, and swinger clubs.

How much should I have at least? I really don't have any idea about the life cost here.

Consider I will live for free some days and things I can do them in the home like food, laundry. Etc.

Thanks so much again.

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.