usually i stick with my reliable girls and repeat visits. one of which is more than 8 years going. i prefer a trifecta that is 3 different partners in rotation. when one drops out i still have 2 so i won't be stuck with a 1 girl rotation which is no rotation at all. this means that every now and then i have to go out and pound the pavement for a new recruit every now and then. 13 years ago whenever i went out around the nana area including the nana disco and other spots there were so many nice beautiful girls that it was difficult not to get picked up. those days were prior to my design of the rotation plan because back then i didn't need it. i would say the rotation plan has been in effect for 5 years or so. now let me talk of recent times. i am down to a rotation of one old faithful. my last 2 attempts with new freelancers were terrible. in fact the last one turned out to be a type of psycho scammer. when i met her i was hesitant to go with her and told her of the last ones bad service. she told me her service is great and if it is not i don't have to pay. she acted totally nice when i met her. we held hands and hit it off with conversation. when she entered my room she was nice too. as soon as the intimacy was to begin she changed personality. she turned into a lifeless zombie with nothing good to say at all. in fact when she spoke she was rude. immediately telling me we had only 1 hour including the time we hung out in the room and our separate showers. i ran to get my stop watch to mark the time because i knew where that was going. she would turn her head away from me and she was frowning and making bad expressions. she was inflexible and improperly contorted. she whacked my testicles like a boxer hitting a speed bag. i think its a scam to get the man to want to just get it over with as soon as possible with absolutely terrible dis functional performance. it was so bad i couldn't stay aroused. so i tapped out before intercourse and said that's it. its totally pointless to go on. this is not going to work. she got dressed and i gave her some money to which she protested me to pay in full. i said no way. she got 50% and no tip. i reminded her that she said if not good service don't need to pay. she pulled out her phone and told me she is calling mafia pause police. i thought to myself make up your mind mafia or police. she called some guy and started yammering away in esarn language. i imagined this guy listening to this and enjoying vicariously the dirty details then after she didn't want to leave. she say we wait they are coming. i told her hey time. time is up go get another customer and had a difficult time forcing her to the door. then she hung out in the hallway for a while. i thought i might have to call security and have her escorted out and not allow any goons to come over. then it dawned on me. this goon squad is not going to happen at all. she was just trying to extort me. so i didn't bother to embarrass myself with security. next morning i discovered she put ky jelly all over the doorknob on the outside. i whipped it off with paper towels and now the doorknob is spotless. the negative trend has been going on for years now and it just keeps getting worse. not to say bangkok is a bad place but i believe the great freelancer scene we once enjoyed is almost non existent now. its possibly the end of an era. the thai culture and western culture are so much different that culture shock can be permanent. the thai system of apartness keeps foreigners from access to most jobs or assimilation. the access to gfe's was what offset all that and made it great to be here. the fear of a mafia police force extorting foreingers is a message that we are not welcome here aswell. i want to think things will get better. the indicators don't support that notion.
it has been a long time since i got threatened with the goon squad, i like to think i have learned to weed that option out, but yeah, it does happen and you have to deal with it. if i had had that girl, the minute she started with the clock i would have thrown her out with taxi fare, immediately. unfortunately, these girls are getting away with shit like this night in night out and thus they stick to it. good on you for throwing her out and not giving in to her crap.
You guys are begging for a beatdown and will, at some point, be eating concrete. You may get a kitchen knife stuck in your chest. All for a few dollars. You're stupid assholes who think you are rough tough big shots. With that attitude you'll get a much deserved payback probably sooner than you think. R. I. P.
Does this really happen? Not saying it does or doesn't, but I can't see really how someone is going to get a beat down when a guy stands his ground after being stiffed. And what about the stories about the helpless girl after she goes with an Indian guy and they go to his room and all his naked and horny homies come out from behind the sofa and get a little piece of the action? I haven't read any stories of Indians getting their ass kicked lately.
Anyways. I went to Baccarra last night and found the talent sub par. Where are all the hot Thai babes, dancing in Kabukicho for drunk salary men? LOL
Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly. I was attempting to draw attention to people who complain about the difference between paying 1, 500 baht and 2, 000 by demonstrating that we should be thankful we get, on average. 2 hours for 2, 000 baht. Unlike U. K prices where this guy paid almost 6, 000 baht for one hour.
Regards.
BJ
Actually, I totally agree with you; I never understood those who try to save 50 bhats at the airport, after having spend a few thousands to come. And yes, I pay easily an extra 500 if the girl I want asks for it. But to each his own.
Sorry for the off-topic post but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread. I'm going to visit a female friend in Thailand in a couple weeks and wanted to bring her a small gift. Any suggestions on a good (non-sexual oriented) gift for a Thai woman friend?
You guys are begging for a beatdown and will, at some point, be eating concrete. You may get a kitchen knife stuck in your chest. All for a few dollars. You're stupid assholes who think you are rough tough big shots. With that attitude you'll get a much deserved payback probably sooner than you think. R. I. P.
You having a bad day JJ. What are you saying? If somebody threatens you, you pay up. In a customer / hooker situation a question arises as to how far the experience progresses before the customer decides he's not getting what he was promised and more importantly whose fault that is. Unfortunately there are dickheads out there who made a habit of abusing the girls but the opposite is also true. In the situation described the girl said that if he wasn't happy he did not have to pay, consequently 50% was more than reasonable and in no way should he have allowed himself to be intimidated, kitchen knife or no kitchen knife.
You guys are begging for a beatdown and will, at some point, be eating concrete. You may get a kitchen knife stuck in your chest. All for a few dollars. You're stupid assholes who think you are rough tough big shots. With that attitude you'll get a much deserved payback probably sooner than you think. R. I. P.
Payback? For what? For not allowing someone to rip you off? For insisting on a fair exchange? It seems like you have the game fucked up. They didn't stop making knives when they made the first one. 100+ countries and countless broads and what I am telling you has not failed me or any of my wingmen to date. I'm not telling you what I heard, I am telling you what I know and have lived. Keep proving yourself to be a mark and that is what you will forever be. Get some heart about yourself. Lose the skirt and try on a pair of pants for a change dude.
My vote goes to 0 baht richer. Giving any amount just encourages the behavior. If I was the girl I would think that I could run the same game 4 times / day, not have to fuck anybody, and go home 2000 baht richer. I'm on the side to let her KNOW that if she does not do her job she is not receiving a paycheck. If I came to your house to install a toilet but all of a sudden I don't have the right tools for the job you mean you are going to give me partial payment and send me on my way never to return? Hell to the no. You are not going to give me shit. Chase me away from your house is what you will probably do. So why are you giving them shit?
I think I have heard that one from at least 1 girl on every continent and have not once seen anyone show up. I've even taken a girl's phone and dialed the police for her. Of course she just hung up and kept trying to plead her case to me. That shit falls on deaf ears. The girl just eventually leaves pissed off that she couldn't put one over on you. Dude, she is a damn hooker. How the hell is she going to get pull from the police or mafia and she can't rub two coins together? THINK! The worse she can try to do is break your shit up. And when it gets to that point you pick her ass up and throw her out of your room and let security do their job.
You guys are begging for a beatdown and will, at some point, be eating concrete. You may get a kitchen knife stuck in your chest. All for a few dollars. You're stupid assholes who think you are rough tough big shots. With that attitude you'll get a much deserved payback probably sooner than you think. R. I. P.
Sorry for the off-topic post but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread. I'm going to visit a female friend in Thailand in a couple weeks and wanted to bring her a small gift. Any suggestions on a good (non-sexual oriented) gift for a Thai woman friend?
Jewelry? Visa and work permit for your country? Marriage licence?
So I tapped out before intercourse and said that's it. Its totally pointless to go on. This is not going to work. She got dressed and I gave her some money to which she protested me to pay in full. I said no way. She got 50% and no tip.
However, paying them the full fare for intentionally botched service only encourages this sort of behavior. Back in the good old days, if the relationship was not consummated, a 200 baht cancellation fee used to be sufficient.
I explain to the gal that I expect her to "do" me like we are in a "sex movie" or like her boyfriend (of course this has all been talked about up front before I even agree to take the gal) , then if the session does not improve, I am up dressed and the gal is 100 baht or 0 baht richer.
My vote goes to 0 baht richer. Giving any amount just encourages the behavior. If I was the girl I would think that I could run the same game 4 times / day, not have to fuck anybody, and go home 2000 baht richer. I'm on the side to let her KNOW that if she does not do her job she is not receiving a paycheck. If I came to your house to install a toilet but all of a sudden I don't have the right tools for the job you mean you are going to give me partial payment and send me on my way never to return? Hell to the no. You are not going to give me shit. Chase me away from your house is what you will probably do. So why are you giving them shit?
Kudos for being brave and doing the right thing. Most punters would have just paid up chalking it to experience. From an individual point of view, even if you know she's bluffing, a 5% risk of a run-in with some goons is not worth 500-1000 baht savings.
I think I have heard that one from at least 1 girl on every continent and have not once seen anyone show up. I've even taken a girl's phone and dialed the police for her. Of course she just hung up and kept trying to plead her case to me. That shit falls on deaf ears. The girl just eventually leaves pissed off that she couldn't put one over on you. Dude, she is a damn hooker. How the hell is she going to get pull from the police or mafia and she can't rub two coins together? THINK! The worse she can try to do is break your shit up. And when it gets to that point you pick her ass up and throw her out of your room and let security do their job.
Sorry for the off-topic post but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread. I'm going to visit a female friend in Thailand in a couple weeks and wanted to bring her a small gift. Any suggestions on a good (non-sexual oriented) gift for a Thai woman friend?
Planning a trip to Pattaya and BKK soon. You'll know how pretty and beautiful the LB's look now. Thanks (?) to the recent day medics!
Can some seniors here let me (and everyone) know whats your approch if you wish to confirm from someone who you think might be a LB, if she / he is one? I do not wish to hurt them, but its not just most of us want to spend a night with someone who is not naturally a she. I am aware there are ways to find out, but am asking what if a ameteur cannot make out with all the hints given?
How do you guys ask someone to make sure, in a polite / gentleman way?
Gringo
Height and width of shoulders is a good first indicator. Adams apple if you can see one is a dead give-away but the lack of one does not confirm female status as these can now be surgically removed. Veins on the back of the hands can be another sign as is large feet. Silicone breasts are so prevalent that having them doesn't tell you anything. Finally a deep voice and cheaper asking fee can be tell tale signs. I once had a Filipino LB pursue me for 5 mins on Soi 4 offering his services for 500 baht (I politely declined). Although you do have to be careful how you respond to them, I. E if you insult them or [CodeWord140] them off they can become nasty very quickly, I have never had a bad response just asking them straight out "are you lady-boy"? Or in Thai Katoei.
I'm staying in a very respectful place this trip and wanted to solicit to get ideas of where to go on or near soi Langsuan. Several nice massage places on the street, but nothing I have found offering extras. Any suggestions? I know Akane massage near the Holliday inn, but I would like more than just an oiled rub.
Let me know.
And for the guy wanting to give a gift to his Thai friend, anything from Louis Vuitton goes over well, or just give her money, so she can spend anyway she wants. Unless she is from a wealthy family or well educated, the gift of money is not an insult. Many women here simply assume men should give them money simply because they look good. Strange but true.
Sorry for the off-topic post but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread. I'm going to visit a female friend in Thailand in a couple weeks and wanted to bring her a small gift. Any suggestions on a good (non-sexual oriented) gift for a Thai woman friend?