Tokyo

[Japanguy]

Once again I had an incredible table shower and a very good massage with oil, hot towels, walking on the back. At the end, I tried to see if there was anything more than just a HE available but from her response, it certainly didn't appear so.

LD

Don't get your hopes up too high.

I've been going to these type of Korean akasuri places regularly for many years and that's standard service.

You may find a girl who is dirty and likes you and gives extra service, especially as you get to know her over many visits. I've had some quite wild experiences but these girls come and go regularly so even if you do establish something it's hard to keep it going.

BTW you shouldn't have akasuri more than once a month.

[Lurkingdog]

So, after my last very enjoyable visit to this establishment, I thought I would go on a field trip to see if any further mileage could be received at this place. I returned and the mama-san that I met last week was not on. Instead it was a tencho who was polite. I gave him my points card which he stamped and I once again selected the 100 minute session. I wanted to see Aiya again but she was already with a customer. The tencho showed me two others that were available. Both very cute young Korean women. And so I chose MiKi. She looked just like the picture. Once again I had an incredible table shower and a very good massage with oil, hot towels, walking on the back. At the end, I tried to see if there was anything more than just a HE available but from her response, it certainly didn't appear so. It was my first time with her (that's why I wanted to see Aiya) but I suspect it's a HR release only type of place (albeit with a very cute naked young Korean woman providing the service). I might need to try the shorter, less expensive courses to see if the HE is the same. If so, I don't think I'll be returning to Kanda any time soon.

LD

[Manta Ray]

Maybe I'm dense. Are you all talking about a specific branch or the entire chain? They vary from lower end to medium. The lower end places have always been hit or miss depending on who is working at the time, the shift and the tencho you talk to. The Shibuya store is the one I'm most familiar with. I've had about 75% success rate there but have been flat turned down even though I am a semi-repeat customer. The regular tencho I always deal with has no problems with me but another guy just waves me off without much discussion.

In Shibuya, I normally use Gimpeur, which is bit hit and'miss in terms of quality of service, but overall more hit than miss. I have also tried a couple of the Dogenzaka 'Relaxation' Massage places that have signs on the street, but I haven't managed to get more than a nice 60 min massage (wearing that ridiculous paper t-back panty) for around ¥8000 in any of them-in other words, no HE was offered.

I do walk by the Shibuya Kadoebi store quite often, but have never ventured in. I do understand from your post that it is unpredictably Gaijin friendly. That said, could you give an idea of your experience at that branch. Eg, the gals (looks and service) and the total standard price.

Many thanks.

Manta Ray

[Homer69]

Okay. Now I get it. Sorry to be so dense. I thought you had just called them recently and that said,"no".

Thanks for your help,

LD

Maybe I'm dense. Are you all talking about a specific branch or the entire chain? They vary from lower end to medium. The lower end places have always been hit or miss depending on who is working at the time, the shift and the tencho you talk to. The Shibuya store is the one I'm most familiar with. I've had about 75% success rate there but have been flat turned down even though I am a semi-repeat customer. The regular tencho I always deal with has no problems with me but another guy just waves me off without much discussion.

[Lurkingdog]

That was my point; I called them way back and it was No. Now the new report says they are saying Yes.

So it seems the customer flow is getting thinner and even gaijins are OK nowadays.

Okay. Now I get it. Sorry to be so dense. I thought you had just called them recently and that said,"no".

Thanks for your help,

LD

[OldGeezer]

Hi Geezer. I read your comment but it sort of confused me. If the recession were hitting them finally, wouldn't they be more inclined to take Gai-jin, all things being equal since yen from Gai-jin is the same and yen fron Nihon-jin?

LD

That was my point; I called them way back and it was No. Now the new report says they are saying Yes.

So it seems the customer flow is getting thinner and even gaijins are OK nowadays.

[Lurkingdog]

I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.

Hi Geezer. I read your comment but it sort of confused me. If the recession were hitting them finally, wouldn't they be more inclined to take Gai-jin, all things being equal since yen from Gai-jin is the same and yen fron Nihon-jin?

LD

[Homer69]

It depends on the location, the girls on shift and the tencho in my experience. I've been to the Ikebukuro locations and gotten in and been turned down at the same locations at other times. Calling them is probably not a good idea because they can't size you up over the phone. Also, it helps to go at a very slow time when you're the only one in the waiting room while the girl prepares the bath for you.

I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.

[OldGeezer]

I'll add to that. To increase the odds, Asian places ie not Japanese (*) and oil massages 60 min or more for 10, 000 yen or more and in a dodgy part of town.

That advice alone will get you quite far to the right direction. It used to be that all places offering lymph (rinpa) massage for that time and money were almost 100% HE places but that is not true anymore.

Also even if they do the service they might not be telling you if you asked beforehand so calling might not work. And even more, you might not get it with the first visit but only from the second. As normally YMMV.

[OldGeezer]

I cannot vouch for total gaijin friendliness because I have the ability to pass myself off as a regular Japanese guy, but seeing how dead everything was I'm sure they'd rather accept a foreigner than have no business. Most likely you'll have to speak decent Japanese though, because I don't think anyplace in Yoshiwara takes people who they can't communicate to.

I called them up once and asked if they would take foreigners and they told me no. I can pass as a Japanese in phone and they actually thought I called for a friend but it was still a firm no. Maybe the recession is hitting them finally.

[Backtobasics]

Interesting.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/l...ulated-romance

[Ektelontt]

Nice report. I was just on their website and some of the girls have a red star on the corner of their picture with three Kanji characters (double mountain, something, Naka). Can you (or anyone else) tell me what this indicates?

Thanks,

LD

The kanji just means that they're working today.

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

As it turns out, Ms Yamaguchi at Grimpeur is also gaijin NG.

http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/profile.php?id=2116

Grimpeur has had a lot of nice girls recently, but a lot are gaijin NG

[Jp Slicky]

Means she is working now or on the clock

[Lurkingdog]

I went to Yoshiwara today planning on trying out Cream Lemon due to the 90 minute for 24, 000 yen campaign and good reviews here. I was a little lazy to call and make an appointment, so I just showed up around 2pm on Sunday hoping things wouldn't be busy but they were. The person at the front greeted me kindly but said that without an appointment I would have to wait 1. 5-2 hours. I decided to just head home because I didn't feel like sitting in a waiting room for two hours. On the return path I was stopped by the Kadoebi guy who was pretty persistent about me going in to view the pictures of the girls. I asked about the price first because I didn't want to go in and find out that everything cost 70, 000 yen like it can sometimes. He said that it would be 28, 000 yen for 80 minutes and that the shop next door was cheaper but of lower quality, and that I should come and view the pictures; if I didn't like what I saw I was free to go next door. I double checked the price with him just to make sure it wasn't just the entry fee, which fortunately prompted him to give me a 2000 yen off coupon to further entice me to go in.

http://honten.kadoebi.co.jp/index.html

I found out why the guy was so desperate to get me inside. The place was completely empty. I found the inside to be very classy and beautiful. It had a very old Japan look to it and the waiting room was huge with comfy chairs and a giant TV. The staff brought me a drink and some snacks first, then came back with three pictures. I picked Kari and the guy said "we're different from other places, we don't photoshop the pictures so the girl will look even cuter in real life." I naturally took that with a grain of salt, but after a 5 minute wait, I was brought over to the room end of the establishment and Kari pretty much looked like her picture. She was reasonably cute looking and had a fairly nice body.

I was led into the room and things started with a shower on the funky plastic chair, and then I was told to wait in the bath while she prepped the air mattress. When things were ready she first came into the bathtub for some DFK and BBBJ then led me to the mat. The mat play was as you see in AV films and eventually you're flipped over for some CFS. After round 1 you go back into the bathtub while the girl cleans up then you dry yourself off and go to the bed. Drinks are then delivered to the room so you can take a break, have a drink and chat with the girl. After a bit of chatting, the girl naturally leads you into round 2 on the bed. After that you're showered again, then a bit of time in the bathtub again, then you dress, say your good byes and head out. I got another drink in the waiting room while I waited for their car to return, then I was given a ride to Nippori station. Hilariously on the way out, I was give a bag full of presents which included a bottle of water, some socks, some money looking note paper, a comb, and a 2013 calendar.

Overall I had a great time. Kari was definitely into it and gave excellent service. I usually use K-deli services which cost around 25, 000 yen for 80 minutes and the hotel room (only one pop) and now I cannot really justify going back to them. The K-deli place I use gives excellent service and the girls are attractive, but the service is nowhere what you receive at a Yoshiwara soapland. The usual tradeoff is that budget soaps usually have older fatter women working there, but Kadoebi didn't seem to have that problem. I'm definitely going back, especially since my 2000 yen off coupon is infinitely reusable.

So about the process. You pay 6000 yen (after coupon) up front to the store, then 20, 000 to the girl after everything is done which keeps everything nice and legal in the soapland loophole. I cannot vouch for total gaijin friendliness because I have the ability to pass myself off as a regular Japanese guy, but seeing how dead everything was I'm sure they'd rather accept a foreigner than have no business. Most likely you'll have to speak decent Japanese though, because I don't think anyplace in Yoshiwara takes people who they can't communicate to.

Nice report . I was just on their website and some of the girls have a red star on the corner of their picture with three Kanji characters (double mountain, something, Naka). Can you (or anyone else) tell me what this indicates?

Thanks,

LD