General Reports

[Stroker Ace88]

Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.

Whatever YMMV, as always in the Philippines it's up to you.

[Stroker Ace88]

Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.

Just because a filipina is "waiting" as you call it doesn't mean they are looking for ST hookups. You have to understand that "malling" is a national past time in the Philippines and people just go to the mall as something to do. Make sure the filipina you approach and ask about ST are there actually working and not just sitting with filipina friends giggling and making fun of your sandals and socks routine.

I agree, there are filipinas who work the mall and are there to pickup foreigners. Most of the filipinas who work the mall are not worth the time but everyone has different tastes and my 5 might be your 9. I see the same filipinas on the hunt year after year and they have very high mileage. Some are former BG's who no longer work in the bars and a few that work the bars at night and the malls during the day. It's a cat and mouse game for sure.

[Iigorvich]

Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.

Girls in Orchid was atleast 7-8's IMHO. I wouldn't less.

[Iigorvich]

Umm that would be the International restaurant chain TGI Fridays Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.

You are getting two seperate places mixed up. Mango Square Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.

Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.

Yeah you are right, Stroker. And laso about the Friday restaurant. BTW I'm surprised people don't find the semi-pros in Ayala. Yesterday there were atleast 10-15 girls either promenading around the restaurant as well as a lot of them "waiting" on the stairs down to the garden.

[Stroker Ace88]

Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy.

Umm that would be the International restaurant chain TGI Fridays Which has a location on the ground level ayala mall. A tad bit more than a burgerbar but up to you.

Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.

You are getting two seperate places mixed up. Mango Square Is the strip mall location on Gen. Maxilom avenue aka- Mango avenue that contains (YOU) Bar and Sunburst chicken resto ect, and is also the disco bar section on the other side of Mango avenue. Mango Square is best known for picking up semi-pro filipinas or BG's who come looking for extra cash after they finish work at a bikini bar. The BG bars located down Mango avenue are not part of Mango Square.

Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.

Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)

Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).

Orchid spa is still open in the Crown Regency hotel basement parking garage on V. Rama street. I heard that most of the massage attendants are now in the sub 4-5 range and most foreigners do not partake. They are now mostly patronized and kept open by visiting philippine government agencies such as association of barangay officials, ect which write off the massage as a conference expense.

[BrasilSoccer0]

Socker,

I learned Spanish in six months looong time ago. The trick is to frequently travel to Colombia to practice with friends and not just working girls!

There is a great language schools in Medallo. Cheap by western standards and you'll meet locals who want to learn yours! Try EAFIT.

BS.

I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.

AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.

Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.

As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.

The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.

[Iigorvich]

Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy. Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.

Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.

Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)

Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).

[Frenzy3]

KingsWood.

Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.

One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.

The club scene and bars are 2 different things here in Cebu, to me the disco clubs have not changed, but the bars have suffered even arena says there is no bar fine, they have stopped the nudity, so explain how that is the same.

[LevDog]

KingsWood.

Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.

One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.

[Stroker Ace88]

I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. [SNIP]

The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation. [SNIP]

KW,

If you walked up to my GF and just grabbed her or "made a move on her" you would be in deep trouble to say the least. The first time in the Philippines can give you the feeling like you're a rock star and all eyes are on you, but you need to realize this is a place where misunderstandings quickly turn into someone lying on the ground with a chalk outline around them. Yes there are alot of filipinas available to meet and have a good time with, but if you make a move on a filipina that's already taken or your approach is too aggressive her friends or other filipinos will step in and protect her. You went to a disco, not a bikini bar. Be careful, be respectful.

Stand back, assess the situation. Watch who she is with, and try and make eye contact with your chosen filipina to show you're interested. Once you get the right signal approach her in a calm and respectful way, doing this always yourself a way out if her BF comes up to you. Just say the filipina looks like one of your wife's friends and you're looking for her.

Welcome to ISG.

[KingsWood]

This is a work in progress, because I am still in manila and having a fucking good time.

I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. On my first full day I go to the girlie bars to re acquaint myself with what is around.

I am staying at the Crown Regency Towers so my local is the Silver Dollar. I have read some negative info about this place but in my limited experience it is as good as any bar in Cebu. A big plus is this bar opens at 1 pm, while the rest open at 7 or 8 pm. If you are looking for a new day time hook up this place may be your best option. The second shift starts at 4 pm and finishes at 1 am.

In the "mango square' area there are some clubs and a few hundred meters away a cluster of girlie bars which many here know well. Pussy cat / lovecity / papillon / dimples / red lips / viking / eric / planet x etc. Over the week I visit all of them and I can make the following generalizations.

The average girl I met was about 22, 5ft1, 40 kg, has 1 child, pretty. 600 facebook friends and a beautiful smile. Overall I found the girls are good fun but I did have some poor experiences.

The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation.

Soon I realize she is a freelancer. Her name is Min, can't remember her age now but think she is 24. She has some distinctive characteristics, like her height, glamorous hair (to Korean taste) and very submissive mannerisms. Initially I was not planning to take her home. I was more interested in just getting some numbers and a good night sleep.

Min introduced me to her 'friends' who were sitting outside and drinking. They included other working girls and Korean guys. This would be my only night at Pump (too many other distractions in Cebu) but what I understood is this place was typically a Korean hangout.

After an hour of drinking and talking, I get a lot of insight from the Korean perspective of girls here. I won't elaborate, but found they were a bit shamless in how they talked about the phil girls (actually I find some of us westerners there not too dissimilar). Min tried to keep a dignified face in their company, but I saw it was wearing her down. Later she would even complain about these guys but I found it strange because she chose to work there as well.

I take her back to my hotel. Reception ask for her I'd. They do not look her in the eye and predominantly looking down on the ground and keeping silent except when talking to me. I wonder if Min notices this and when we get into the elevator she comes out with 'sometimes I just hate myself'. Turned out she was what some would call an 'emo' but in my drunken stupor I did not give her much consolation. Actually I was quite sympathetic to her feeling, but I would learn many times that if you give these girls some heart they can just as easily take advantage of it.

Back in the bedroom she and I just go to sleep without any communication. We wake up 3 or 4 hrs later for some hip grinding and after that neither of us could get any more sleep.

When paying her I gave 2, 000p. It was shown to here as a 1000 note with 2x500 notes inside. She could not possibly know how much I gave her, but nodded anyway and said it was ok.

[MutantChicken]

My view of this is this, the bars that have a mandatory min of drinks the barfine is priced at 1700+750= 2450, the bars that done the bar fine is 2000, and it would take on avg 2 drinks at 200 each to determine if you are compatible with her. 2200, and there are other bars whewre the girls were wanting 3000, so like the other poster mentioned the expats or regulars who don't get charged that 750 are already buying prob 750 in drinsk for the mamsan or the owner or their fav bar girls anyway, so it not worth geting ruffled about over <20usd.

It just like in the AC thread guys are getting upset about xyz overpaying, but if for example I take a girl for 1500, then I take her bar hopping, take her to dinner at a italian place take her to the movie and I spend 1000, which is never reported, but if I was to take her to the hotel and we have a relaxing night watching tv and fucking, then I report that I tipped her 1000, then I'd be flamed as being someone who is ruining the market. The girls would rather have a extra tipp than being dragged around to places they don't really enjoy anyway.

My two cents

[Stroker Ace88]

Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.

The guys who have been around for awhile and are known to the girls, the mamasan and-or the owner (either one or all) do not have to pay a drink minimum to barfine. Granted we are usually the ones to sit and buy a few LD's and shoot the shit while watching the girls on stage anyways. From what I heard this new policy is there to stop the 'cheap charlie' guys who come in and stand at the stage to inspect the girls close up or they request a line-up and choose the girl without ever sitting down, ordering a drink or talking to the girl. Now those guys have to pay-up.

If you're a newbie expect to be asked to buy drinks and sit awhile. Some places do not care if you buy three drinks for three different girls. Just make sure to ask a few questions before awarding a few LD's as many BG's have turned into drink sluts who are there for the drinks but refuse to barfine. Do not award a girl who is only there for conversation. Bargirls are there to be barfined!

[Redman69]

Thank you for your good info. I have been to Cebu and A / see fields and agree with all that you say. I would add. If I met a girl in A / C it would be a long time before I would come to think she was not, is not and has not been a bar girl. In cebu I think there is a good chance to meet normal girl while out and about. Now somethimes you do with out the freak with the normal girls. Lots of I have never done that. No my friends do not want to come over also. So, I would pick soley on wether or not it was a sex trip. I can say I never get tired of the newbies. But sometimes need the freaky sex. Thanks again for the info.

[Boofa69]

Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.