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03-13-13 14:19 #12246
The reason why it is a bad idea to go to Buddha Bar is because 1) It sucks. 2) The girls are there looking for desperate / naive foreign men who are going to pay $500. If you go there looking to pick up a girl on the cheap it's going to be an annoying process that 9 times out of 10 is going to end in bad mechanical 'are we done yet' sex. The girls are there because they are looking for men who are going to pay $500, not cheap or as they like to say, 'greedy' men. Not a good strategy. If you seriously suggest Buddha Bar as an option you may not be new to Kiev but you are not experienced in Kiev. The best you will do in a club (for a realistic 7+ girl) is $200, at Shooters you might indeed get an average student girl for $100 who would have fucked you for free if she liked you a little more. The only people you will find at Buddha Bar are those who do not know. Either they don't understand the scene in Kiev or they think Buddha Bar is a scene.
Kiev is indeed a buyer's market when it comes to P4P. To an extent, there are a lot of things that factor in. What you look like (and how you present yourself) , what the girl looks like and mutual chemistry. Slavic girls are very vain and 'proper', the better looking and more in demand she is, the higher that factor will be. Moderate to high level of Russian language skills can tip the scales in your favor. It's a huge game of YMMV.
But while Kiev might to an extent be a buyer's market for quality P4P it is still very expensive to live there, if you live like a westerner. Factor in the expense, if you are someone on a budget then it makes sense to stay home or go to a cheaper P4P destination, such as SE Asia, Central, South America or even the non FSU Eastern Europe. Or as our resident bad boy and heavy hitter Pro likes to do, go to some isolated, remote province or FSU country.
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03-13-13 01:49 #12245You can have no photo, real photo, fake photo, and you can also have fake photo for profile and real photo in album. I have seen some girls do this. How many photos are there on Mamba of Adele and Britney? I stopped counting.
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03-13-13 01:28 #12244
Thanks
Thanks DoctorOral. I plan on keeping it friendly and unleashing a blitz right before my trip. I am glad money came up with one girl just for the experience and so I know what to expect.
I agree with you about the timing of my trip being unfortunate since Rent is just paid. Maybe some girls that are REAL late on rent will be more desperate!
Great advice on not negotiating the menu. I assume that some of these may be agencies posing as girls on Mama, and in that case I would want to know what I am getting. However, if it is a regular girl just go with the flow. Really, CBJ is not the worst for me, but DFK is a must. I am going to German FKK before I arrive in Kiev so I know that will be a sure thing if things don't work out perfectly in Kiev.
I just want to make sure I do enough legwork so that I have a girl every day when I am there, but this seems like it will not be hard. And I can't wait after seeing the pictures on Mamba. About 3/4 of the girls are very doable and 1/2 are drop dead gorgeous!
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03-12-13 23:50 #12243
Help you out
july? rule one: cis people do not plan the future. they take a million now and do not wait until next week to have two.
be nice, not agressive. you have lots of time. compliment the girls, build a list of somewhat 100 favorites and then days before you go massmail them all with copypaste and fix the date. and get their number then. the real girls will not disappear, only the fake ones go. it is very hard to get the number off a girl for next weekend. it is now, or not!
don't overpay. 100 is a good basis, usually one hour. i tend to agree the price, then tell them they must stay 2-3 hours just before meeting me. 90 perc. agreeto that.
you come in a bad time. rent is paid by then, and next rent is faaaaar away (see cis mentality above)
do not ask for services. they all think they are not hookers, and you would not ask a student on the street for the menue, but just take her home and see what happens. you can find girls who do bbbj, most do, or pissing (rare) , or true lesbian (rare, as not really accepted in cis). all that belongs to the second date anyhow.
do not worry about your friend. in some weeks, you have enough numbers to set him up.
be polize, now spend ime on compliments, build trust, then hit (see above) 3 weeks before going.
summer in kiev is easy. you will find a nice girl on the street if you are unlucky on manba. or at the beaches.
do not 'book' girls in advance, you will regret' every agenda gets fucked up in cis, they are always late. and you will mess up. do not agree with one girl for 2-3 days in a row, you will get bored and regret as you will see others.
domt worry too much, bars and discos are full of p4ps.
thats a good start with advise, i guess.
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03-12-13 22:46 #12242
Some further observations on what you wrote:
The time to make contacts and develop relationships is during the months preceding your visit to Kiev. The time for preparation and gathering of photos of girls and their telephone numbers to call is BEFORE you get to Kiev. When you arrive in Kiev is the time for action. You will find that many of the numbers you collected will not result in a date, either because the girl does not answer, does not speak English, is not available etc. So you need to develop many more contacts than you could possibly ever date, in order to have a chance to get a date or dates when you finally arrive in Kiev. Overkill is good preparation. As soon as the girl gives you her telephone number and thereby becomes a legitimate "Contact" that you could call for a date, make sure to use the "print screen" function on your computer to capture screen shots of her photos and paste them into a Word document or the like that you will use for your Contacts, because there is a very high likelihood that the girl's profile will be deleted within a few weeks, and often much sooner. If her profile gets deleted you will no longer have access to her photos and you will not remember what she looks like. So you will not know if you should really call her, or whether she was one of the really pretty girls or the average girls you made contact with. So make the copies of her photos and contact information for later reference when her profile is deleted. This is especially the case with p4p girls on mamba. Originally Posted by Rog123
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Firstly. 20. 25 messages is nothing. It is very little. The response rate if the girls on mamba is quite low. So you should try to send out 20. 25 messages EACH DAY, in fact send out the maximum messages allowed by the system (I think it limits you to 30 new contacts each 24 hours) each day if you can. Originally Posted by Rog123
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Secondly, It's confusing as to your goals and the strategies used to achieve them. The idea of looking to see whether a girl is seeking men more than 10 or 15 years older than herself was a litmus test indicator for p4p girls, since that is not a normal dating habit of young girls.
Therefore, If, as you say, you are hoping for "freebie gems", you should not be looking for p4p indicators. It's a confusion.
If you are going for freebie girls, just the opposite of what you wrote, you should in particular write to those girls who are looking for men only within 10 years of their own age, as these are more likely the normal girls looking for regular freebie dating. The only issue is your own age and whether it falls within the range the girl is seeking. So if you are a "40 something", leave the normal 18 year olds alone to date guys up to age 30, and you should look at girls who are 30 something, and / or above 25 at the youngest, since a 10 to 15 year age spread could be normal for regular dating. If you are under 35, then have at all the regular girls 18 or older, because even though an 18 year old wrote in her profile that she is looking for guys up to age 30, maybe she would make allowances for a nice looking foreign businessman who is only a few years older than that.
However, on the other hand, if you are looking for p4p, that is when a girl looking for guys more than 10 or 15 years older than herself becomes relevant, as an indicator that maybe she is a p4p girl. Since you don't know for sure what she is, be careful what you write, don't suggest p4p, and see what she says when she responds. To be safe always let her be the first to mention money.
If a girl is 25 and she writes in her profile she is looking for men until age 40, the it is one of those cases where we don't know just based on that, whether she is a regular or a p4p girl. Didn't you understand that from all the discussion until now? So the approach must be as you would to a regular girl. That is to say Don't possibly ruin it by mentioning giving her money first. She will let you know soon enough if she is a p4p girl and wants money. You have to play it out. Originally Posted by Rog123
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I read the conversation and interchange between you as you telling her that you're a sex tourist playing with talking to her online that may or may not ever come to Kiev, and she is frustrated with giving her number to such guys who never come and never call, and she is not giving her number to you so easily. If she gives it, as she should since she is p4p and what choice otherwise makes sense, you are lucky. She should have been told that you are a businessman in Kiev on business and if you have time to see her, you will call her.
Adjust your strategies per my earlier postings, and the above, and increase the numbers of messages you send out, and you will hopefully you will get more contacts to be able to call when you arrive in Kiev.
LJ
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03-12-13 20:51 #12241dear jeremy, Originally Posted by rog123
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i don't have time at the moment for a "full" response, but just to get at the main points, here are a few observations.
i also have encountered resistance to provide their phone number. it makes absolutely no business sense for a p4p girl seeking bookings to withhold her contact info and thus frustrate her own business. but these are ukrainian girls. so in their twisted stupid minds they have outsmarted the foreigner if they don't give him what he wants, which is their contact info, and it doesn't seem to occur to them that they are the real losers.
two mistakes i feel you are making:
1) don't allow yourself to be easily labelled as a sex tourist. instead present yourself as a businessman who is in kiev for business purposes.
2) the p4p girls / agencies don't want to waste their time talking to guys who just want to talk. they want to be in contact with men who are in kiev right now, and ready to pull the trigger. so you telling them you won't be there until july is interfering with your success. don't mention when you are going to be in kiev. if they demand to know, and you still need to get their phone number, then tell them you are in kiev. if they press you for an appointment, say you are very busy with business meetings, and you will call them as soon as you are able to be alone and can host them at your apartment. and keep up the friendly conversation. or if you don't want to say you are in kiev right then, as they may want to speak on the phone, you can tell them you are in kiev frequently in business, and your next visit will be some near date. don't say it is a remote far away date.
3) if you pay money to be a vip member, i understand you can change your own location. that might help. i have never spent any money on mamba, so i must have this verbal swordplay with those girls who don't easily give their number.
a lot of pretty girls take professional photos if themselves. it's not a clear indicator of p4p or of fake pictures in my view.
i wrote before that a girl seeking men 10 years older than themselves is what a normal freebie girl would write. so you cannot make any assumptions about freebie versus p4p girl on that basis. so conduct yourself in the normal manner of a man seeking a woman for a relationship. that means you don't mention giving her money for sex. propositioning a normal girl as if she were a prostitute will have an obvious untoward result. always pursue the seduction in earnest the way all men who want to have freebie sex do, and let the girl be the one who raises the issue of money. can i be any clearer? i don't think so. the only way i would even consider planting the idea that you are ready to give her money, is in the indirect theoretical context of a conversation about how difficult it is economically in liev for a young girl, and that you believe it is right and proper for a "boyfriend" who has means, to be helpful to his girlfriend. admitting that in the context of a romantic relationship between a boyfriend and a girlfriend, that you are open to helping your "girlfriend", in no way labels you as seeking a prostitute girl for p4p,
and yet plants the idea in the girl's mind that you might help her if she becomes that romantic girlfriend or even some lesser level of friendship relationship that's not entirely exclusive. i would make it clear that the level of support and financial assistance of a wealthy man to a woman depends on the nature of the depth of the relationship. in marriage, support for all needs is total. in an exclusive romantic relationship between boyfriend / girlfriend it is less. and it is even less when the relationship is not exclusive. that is as far as you can go in the realm of normal relations between men and women that is not admittedly discussing p4p. it is a viewpoint that tells a girl considering you as boyfriend material, that she can expect certain economic advantages if she enters into such a relationship with you.
often enough, she does not want to commit herself to an exclusive relationship with you, because she will not be able to pursue other men during all the lonely times when you are away. so once she is in the category of non-exclusive casual friend / sex partner, the question becomes what level of financial support is commensurate with that kind of relationship. the whole discussion basically legitimizes the idea that a man should give financial assistance to a girl he likes because it is so hard for her financially in kiev. within that rubric, the girl does not feel like a prostitute, or see herself as such, at all! she is a good ukrainian girl, just wanting to be good to her nice new wealthy boyfriend, who will hopefully see her great needs and help her out.
now here's the kicker. obviously, it is but a very short step toward quantifying how much help you would give her based on how much time and lovin' she gives you, purely as a measure of the depth of the relationship and a measure of how much she likes you. the more time and great sex, the deeper the relationship and the more obligated you become to help her financially. so you will be giving her money for time spent with you while giving you great sex. and in her mind she sees the exchange as "friendship" and not p4p! in fact you make sure to tell her that you do not want a prostitute girl. you want a good girl like her, and you are happy to help her with some of her bills because you know how hard it is for her in kiev and you have affection for her and care about her.
it's all in the "spin".
be careful with your words.
with agencies and obvious p4p girls you don't need to be so circumspect.
got to go. maybe more later if i think of stuff.
lj
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03-12-13 19:45 #12240
Hi everyone,
New to this site but not new to Kiev / Ukraine. After reading a lot of posts on this forum I thought I would add my perspective on the beautiful women of Kiev.
I must confess that lots of the posts here make my smile, everyone has their opinion on what is and is not a good price to pay for p4p and the best places to find it.
I have read stories of women in Budda bar who charge up to $500 and girls from Rio asking $300 and if you go to Shooters it's $100 and Mamba is anything between
$50. $100.
Now I really don't want to upset anyone especially the people who say that no one should pay more than a certain amount for p4p. But the truth is that these girls will.
Always ask for a ridicules amount of money and it is up to the individual man to negotiate a price he thinks she is worth. Everyone has their own budget and opinion of beauty.
As for the best place to look for p4p the simple answer is everywhere. Every pub and club have girls in them, all you have to do is talk to them.
Some of the posts here say avoid the Budda bar because it is full of ex River palace girls and they want an unrealistic amount of money, yes it is true they ask for $300/$400/$500.
But all you have to do is negotiate and you will get a realistic price, it's the same everywhere. At the end of the day its just like any other business deal. The girl is essentially a sales women
The product she his selling is her self, You are the guy buying the product and lets be honest you would not pay $500 for a car if you could get the same make and model at the garage next door for $100.
Regardless of what people say about Kiev it is still a buyers market.
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03-12-13 19:15 #12239
Mamba Questions
i pmed liljoey and barba asking for some advice for mamba, and liljoey was kind enough to say he would answer / respond on the public forum as to help others that may be new to mamba and looking for advice / strategy.
i am going to kiev for 8 days in july. i know this is some time away, a few months, but i want to start learning how to properly use mamba and become an expert by the time i arrive so that i do not waste any time. mostly now i am trying now to talk to "normal girls" or some that may be semi-pro. not obvious pros. i am also trying to get a feel for which girls are p4p and which are not. i feel with so much time ahead to my trip that i do have the chance to develop chemistry with some normal girls and maybe get lucky with a freebie gem. also, i am always of the belief that even if a girl can become a "friend" even if she is not interested in p4p or even sex that she may be willing to hook you up with her friends. that has always worked well for me in my personal life. you never know. just feeling out the site right now.
i have had pretty minimal success so far with about 20-25 messages sent. i try and focus on girls that are looking for someone with are bracket of at least 10 years above them. i had one girl that i thought was the one i would most like to hear from that has replied a few times (i don't think she is p4p but i guess you never know). she only sent short replies, but that is a start and i will keep trying to foster a communication and with other girls as well.
my location is listed as los angeles. i have heard people say that women are hesitant to reply to men with locations listed so far away. is this true? maybe this is part of the reason i have had so little response.
i try and send a message saying that i love to travel and will be visiting kiev in july and that i want to meet new friends to have fun with. i normally just copy and paste the same message (in russian through translator) and then try to include one line that is specific to their profile like one of their interests or one of their outfits (for one i said, i don't want to be too forward, but you have great legs". probably not the best but i am just trying out new things to see what works. not many responses yet but i have had a couple "hi" and a couple short messages from about 20-25 messages i sent. i have been focusing in my messages on excitement for my trip and my love of traveling and meeting new people, and my desire to learn as much russian as i can to get by on my trip.
so if a girl is 25 and she states looking for a man 25-40 would you say she is open to sponsorship? i figure the ones that go up to 80 are open for business lol but there are some i really like that are maybe 22 and list up to 35 and such. so not sure how to approach the "borderline" women like this that seem like they may be open to p4p but it is not obvious (like ages 18-80). i wonder why all girls that are p4p don't just use ages up to 60 or 70 as that would be much more obvious.
also, do you think that the girls with more professional looking modeling pics and bikini pics are fake? some of these pictures looked like they were taken right out of a magazine! i am even including women up to 30 in my search as it looks like there are some very attractive women in this age bracket on mamba, and i assume they are probably easier to hook up with for p4p since the youngins are getting more attention? i know from my experience some of the more mature providers offer the best service. but for my kiev trip i am sure 30 is my max and i will be looking for mostly much younger than that.
also, i have been corresponding with this girl that is the first one that responded with a straight p4p offer. judging from the convo below, do you think she is avoiding questions about services or she just doesn't understand what i am trying to communicate (translated from russian) :
her.
i am for money.
12 minutes ago.
me.
that's great, that's what i'm looking for. i will not be there until july 1, and i just want to make some contacts ready to have fun on my trip. what is your speed and service? also, what is the best way to contact you? please let me know of services / rules and price. again, not in kiev before july 1, but i will see you, then surely $ $. jeremy.
9 minutes ago.
her.
$ 200 meeting.
5 minutes ago.
me.
that sounds good. for two hours or more? you do everything with no limits? can you send me information on how to contact you, or i can give you a message to mamba when i arrive. thank you!
2 minutes ago.
her.
2-3 hours.
just now.
me.
this is great i will contact you when i arrive. 'll have a friend with me, if you have recommendations for a good girl for him.
i have also asked for contact info from her in case her profile got deleted, and she has not responded to that. she is cute and i would see her in a second right now, but i am just starting off and i may find much better in the next three months of research. and i want to make sure the girl offers all services i want like dfk, bbbj and maybe others if in the mood. sounds like this may be an agency, but who knows.
another thing i will give as a tip to others is to translate the text in the "about me" section, as some girls say things like "i am not a piece of meat to be exploited by sex hungry tourists" and "deviants do not attempt to contact me!" so these are probably girls you would want to avoid!
thanks again liljoey for your willingness to help a kiev newbie master the art of mamba seduction!
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03-12-13 16:35 #12238
Not that McD, there is more than one in Kiev, the one that was mentioned is on the Left Bank.
All those cops you saw, they are there to keep working girls and drunks off Khreshatic.
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03-12-13 15:11 #12237
Looking for tips
Hi friends,
Next week I'll be in Kiev, do you have any good contact for young escort girls?
Thanks in advance for your help
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03-11-13 09:01 #12236I had the same question about whether it's best to have a photo in my mamba profile. My interest is primarily for pay 4 play girls, whether straight out sex for money, or some permutation of sponsorship. I don't spend a lot of time pursuing freebies because I do not have a lot of time for that on a 3 night visit to Kiev. But that doesn't mean that if a freebie date possibility with a very pretty girl that I feel some chance of eventually nailing comes along, that I wouldn't give it some chance. I would take some time to date her and see what develops. I just would be mindful of the consumption of my time, and not allow her to become a cock blocker and use up too much of the time that I need for more productive p4p. In fact I have written that I conduct all of my communications with girls in the manner of a man chasing a freebie, and I do not mention or discuss money for sex at all, and remain very discreet about my actual intentions, until after the girl first brings up the topic of her receiving money. Originally Posted by Hzlvr
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The question of whether to post a photo in your profile, depends on what your goals on mamba are.
There are actually more than the two choices of to post a photo, or not. There is also the choice of posting a fake picture in your profile, something which the girls do routinely.
If you are going for freebie action you should post a true photo. Otherwise you will need to be explaining why you posted a fake photo when you meet your date and why you lied. Admittedly not a good way to start a real relationship.
If you are looking for p4p, and you are concerned about your privacy and somehow having your true photo associated with your p4p messaging to the girls on the Internet, I suppose there is no harm in using a fake photo, since the girls are going to be paid for their services, and your looks and appearance are not as much of an issue as they would be in a freebie situation. And for the sake of receiving the money, the girl will just have to get over the issue of you using fake photos when you meet.
On the other hand, if you see no real privacy issue, then you can feel free to use your real photos in your profile since mamba is a genuine social website, and also many girls seeking some sort of sponsorship arrangement, do care what the guy looks like.
If you post no photo, or if you post a fake photo, you can always use email communications to supply a girl you're interested in with your real photos at such point in the communications it seems adviseable to.
If you post no photo, you will likely be able to get responses from the agencies advertising on mamba through a profile of a girl, more easily that from an individual girl who is looking for sponsorship but does care about the appearance of the man with whom she will have sexual relations. So to widen your choices and chances you may choose to post a photo.
So the upshot is that posting a real photo keeps your options open, although if you don't look so good in the photos, you probably want to re-think that. If you do post fake photos, they should resemble you somewhat. If there is too large a disparity between your profile photos and the actual you, it is just as off-putting to the woman, as it is to a man, when the roles are reversed.
These were some of the considerations that occurred to me on this question. It is a good question. And I too am interested in what the "experts" have to say on the question of profile photos on mamba.
LJ
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03-11-13 02:20 #12235
Ronaldinjo, I sent you about 15 emails with more than 20 girls all in all. Did you get them? Not a thank you even?
Just joking. Have fun Ronaldinjo and do not forget to send me at least 20 girls back so I can get really busy in May.
Soren, go to Vodka Bar and look for Olga. She is 30+ and has a good personality from what I could tell. Or PM me and I will send you her number. She asked for 150 USD but I think you can negotiate it to half or less.
To anyone that remembers Barba's quest for the slim teen model Inna, I can share that she send me pictures of her young teen breasts yesterday. She did an "erotic photo shoot" with her friend. Probably to apply to Woodman's next tour in Ukraine or something. And you can be sure that if you get the tit-pictures from a little teen model, there is more to follow. God she will look pretty on top of my hard see*ck. Sometimes the chase is just as fun as the reward. Even if Inna is a little hoe at the end of the day, she is not yet a big hoe, so some of Barba's skills was required to make her feel comfortable and motivated. She would like to find something serious as she puts it, and finally understood that the best way to see Barba more than once, goes via her panties. Would be nice to feed her water and pineapple juice and see her [CodeWord140] before I fuck her.
Barba is off to Asia. A month of hard "work" in SEA. F*ck yes it feels great to go back to that part of the world!
Take it easy and keep it sleazy, guys!
B.
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03-10-13 22:02 #12234
K street
Was just on K street about 10pm.
Got the growlies so read on the forum here some streetwalkers would be hanging around McDonalds.
On the way there I was walking along side one to Mc D's.
And after I ordered my Big Mac and expresso 27UAH one sat beside me.
Neither where that great.
Saw a few younger ladies hanging around smoking looking like they could be in the game but disappeared in the subway.
Damn there was 2 to 4 police at every corner, and about 20 coppers by the Mc D's.
Not the best atmosphere to negotiate some poon tang haha.
Any advice on what times and days are the best for meeting a possible student?
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03-10-13 18:32 #12233
Mamba, photos on profile
I was following the good advice here about how to approach in Mamba. I got a question for guys that only get P4P, do have photos on your profiles, I have met some mamba girls before without having them but they immediately quote me a price at the begining of our communication, I have been trying to talk to some girls lately and now 3 of them have asked me about photos. I have my reasons not to have pictures, but then again I am not looking freebies or a real date, just sex. So I was interested to hear how the experts do it.
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03-10-13 13:07 #12232The problem is that you obviously did not read the good advice that was just posted in the thread in response to your post. No matter. I sort of knew it wouldn't help you, and posted it for the benefit of newbies in general. Don't worry about what is the meaning of "fugly" in Bill's post (it's a contraction of two words. "fucking ugly"). (don't get upset, he was just joking). You have more serious problems to resolve. Originally Posted by Soren60
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Now you reveal another facet of your approach (that you are using mamba to find women who are 30+). If you are intending to pay money for sex to the girls you find on mamba, why are you searching in such an old age bracket where it is difficult to find really hot women? Don't you enjoy fucking 20 year old pussy? Since you are paying for these services, you can get a younger girl. I hope you know that? In the world of pay for play (p4p) , I. E. Sex for money, you are not required to be age-appropriate.
It is possible that you are an older guy who just feels the need to fuck women who are more mature, because that is what you are used to, or you can't relate to very young girls. That's quite ok. To each his own. If that's what you really prefer. I just want to make sure that you know that you are permitted to fuck younger girls too when you are paying.
I'm assuming that you are not looking for regular real relationships, as in "freebies", but rather you are looking for paid sex. This assumption is based on your post in which you reported being called a pervert in response to your messages to the mamba women you contacted, which is the probable result when you proposition a regular woman with sex for money as if she is a prostitute. It's unlikely that a respectful normal message from a man would earn such a response.
But the reason for the lack of clarity in responding to you is because you have not explained yourself sufficiently. You haven't stated what you are looking for and what you did to try to get it.
Here is a suggestion for you, Soren. Post an explanation of what you are looking for on mamba, the strategy and approach you decided to use in obtaining that goal. And also post two or three sample initial messages that you sent that earned the response "pervert" and "fuck you" that you reported receiving. Then I am sure the pundits on this thread can give you a more pinpoint explanation of where you went wrong and some advice on how to improve your chances.
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