Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Metabo]

I always keep a bottle of Listerine in my bag. I use it to freshen my breath and give myself a rub down after leaving CQ. I just pour a little in the palm of my hand and rub it in. You can get good coverage without all the mess of soap and water. It's just something to hold me over until I can get a good shower. I haven't tried Tobita, yet. But I suppose I'll get a small bottle of Witch Hazel from Sony Plaza to use if I go there. It's probably the best thing, but easy to forget.

Sakai, forgive my ignorance. What is the Listerine for? Is an antiseptic for washing willy or is it for the scent you might otherwise bring home with you?

I am thinking of suiting up and wrapping a condom on for my next trip. Just wondering if they will be okay with that or if it's uncool.

Seriously need to head over. Could use some advice on getting a cute girl too, but that may be a lot to ask.

Forever indebted

[Sakaisuji]

I have never actually been to CQ. I never really knew where it was but I kind of accidentally found it while escorting a lovely young woman to a LH in Umeda. I'm sort of curious about giving it a try now.

There's quite a few actually. Check out the website mabe-navi. Com for a listing.

I wouldn't consider a happening bar an option because you most likely aren't going to be able to get in without a Japanese date accompanying you. Even if you have one there's really not telling what will happen once you're there (thus the name happening bar). I've gone on nights where it was packed with people and nothing exciting happened, and nights where there were only a handful of couples but everyone swapped. You pretty much have to find a girl who is willing / interested in going, and those aren't exactly common.

There is a Club Queen near the Santa or Christmas Hotel, but the one I mentioned is in Tennoji. I'm curious about the two clubs near the Nobunaga-shoten in the Hankyu-Higashi Dori shopping street. They are in the little alley next to the drug store near the crossing.

Be careful walking around that area. I saw one fellow being pushed around on the side walk. He had to get help from a worker at Tullys.

[Azure Knight]

I have never actually been to CQ. I never really knew where it was but I kind of accidentally found it while escorting a lovely young woman to a LH in Umeda. I'm sort of curious about giving it a try now.

Question: Does anyone know of any happening bars (aka swingers' bars) in Osaka? Hatguy has detailed his experiences at one in the past, and I'd be interested in trying my luck at one. I understand the reluctance to share this info publicly, but if someone would be so kind as to PM me, I can assure you that I won't pass on the info to anyone else, won't mention that I came on someone's recommendation, and certainly won't break the Wa (have lived here for 8 years and speak business-level Japanese).

There's quite a few actually. Check out the website mabe-navi. Com for a listing.

I wouldn't consider a happening bar an option because you most likely aren't going to be able to get in without a Japanese date accompanying you. Even if you have one there's really not telling what will happen once you're there (thus the name happening bar). I've gone on nights where it was packed with people and nothing exciting happened, and nights where there were only a handful of couples but everyone swapped. You pretty much have to find a girl who is willing / interested in going, and those aren't exactly common.

[Azure Knight]

Where are the freelancers located in Shinsaibashi / Amemura?

Dunno, sorry. I've heard rumors and talk but I've never actually seen one there. But I rarely go to that area and the few times I do I'm not actively looking.

[Sakaisuji]

http://www.tekoki-tengoku.com/price/area4-osaka.html

[Sakaisuji]

Maybe a dumb question for the gentlemen of this forum, but I am wrestling with my conscience. Like all of you, I need some head and a good handy from time to time. It shouldn't be that much to ask, but the mrs. Is not keen. Hence my visits to the establishments of Tobita and more recently, Club Queen. My question for you all is not an ethical one, but a practical one:

Should I wrap a condom on old boy Johnson whilst getting head at CQ? It certainly lessens the experience, but I don't want to contract anything and give it to my partner. I am not even sure if the ladies down there would be okay with such a strategy. Sakaisuji. What are your thoughts?

I always keep a bottle of Listerine in my bag. I use it to freshen my breath and give myself a rub down after leaving CQ. I just pour a little in the palm of my hand and rub it in. You can get good coverage without all the mess of soap and water. It's just something to hold me over until I can get a good shower. I haven't tried Tobita, yet. But I suppose I'll get a small bottle of Witch Hazel from Sony Plaza to use if I go there. It's probably the best thing, but easy to forget.

[Metabo]

Maybe a dumb question for the gentlemen of this forum, but I am wrestling with my conscience. Like all of you, I need some head and a good handy from time to time. It shouldn't be that much to ask, but the mrs. Is not keen. Hence my visits to the establishments of Tobita and more recently, Club Queen. My question for you all is not an ethical one, but a practical one:

Should I wrap a condom on old boy Johnson whilst getting head at CQ? It certainly lessens the experience, but I don't want to contract anything and give it to my partner. I am not even sure if the ladies down there would be okay with such a strategy. Sakaisuji. What are your thoughts?

I can't really speak Japanese. I asked to change and he said they didn't have any young girls and I said it's ok. Then a new woman came with her work bag. I'll probably go next week and I'll let you know how it goes.

I really need to scout around Juso and Nishinakajima-minamikata (on the Midosuji line Umeda-Nakatsu-Nishinakajima-Minamikata-Shin Osaka) If you exit on the Hankyu railway side and make a circle around the station there are a few places there. On he side street right next to the station and two or three streets from the tracks on the other side. When you walk down the street next to the tracks cross them at the first rail crossing. Don't cross that street because there's nothing on that side.

[Sakaisuji]

I too am looking for a good place to get a decent handjob!

As for CQ. I am impressed. How did you go about asking to change girls? I have gotten some real sweeties there but also some real dogs. End result is usually the same, but it would be good to know how to go about mixing it up.

I can't really speak Japanese. I asked to change and he said they didn't have any young girls and I said it's ok. Then a new woman came with her work bag. I'll probably go next week and I'll let you know how it goes.

I really need to scout around Juso and Nishinakajima-minamikata (on the Midosuji line Umeda-Nakatsu-Nishinakajima-Minamikata-Shin Osaka) If you exit on the Hankyu railway side and make a circle around the station there are a few places there. On he side street right next to the station and two or three streets from the tracks on the other side. When you walk down the street next to the tracks cross them at the first rail crossing. Don't cross that street because there's nothing on that side.

[Metabo]

I've visited CQ 3 times. The first two I had the same woman and the same experience. I spent about 25 minutes working on her breasts and she spent 5 on me. This time I requested a new woman. The difference was ASTOUNDING! This woman went to work after about 7 or 8 minutes and treated me like a king. She was very pleasant and chatty afterwards.

The only negative was they really clamp or squeeze my member when I get near cumming and it turns what could be a fabulous event into a mediocre or average one.

I left Amour with a bruise.

The wondeful woman had a bottle of gel in her bag. I'm going to try and get her to give me a heavenly handjob and a ball massage next time.

I hope it's ok with her!

I really want to find a place that specializes in handjobs, but I guess I've got to find a J-guy to help me.

I too am looking for a good place to get a decent handjob!

As for CQ. I am impressed. How did you go about asking to change girls? I have gotten some real sweeties there but also some real dogs. End result is usually the same, but it would be good to know how to go about mixing it up.

[Sakaisuji]

I've visited CQ 3 times. The first two I had the same woman and the same experience. I spent about 25 minutes working on her breasts and she spent 5 on me. This time I requested a new woman. The difference was ASTOUNDING! This woman went to work after about 7 or 8 minutes and treated me like a king. She was very pleasant and chatty afterwards.

The only negative was they really clamp or squeeze my member when I get near cumming and it turns what could be a fabulous event into a mediocre or average one.

I left Amour with a bruise.

The wondeful woman had a bottle of gel in her bag. I'm going to try and get her to give me a heavenly handjob and a ball massage next time.

I hope it's ok with her!

I really want to find a place that specializes in handjobs, but I guess I've got to find a J-guy to help me.

[Jukujo Lover]

I visited Tobita Shinchi with a friend on Friday for the first time in several years and found the natives very friendly. The two of us got there at about 5 pm. Overcast skies and very few other punters on the streets. We (mid 40s white guys in suits) had well over a 90% hit rate with the mamas and girls very interested in doing business. We picked 2 shops more or less next to each other. The bill of fare is CBJ and CFS. 16K for 20 minutes. 21K for 30 minutes, clean tatami rooms and overall good attitude. Both girls were early 20s and very good looking. The girl quality on display was almost uniformly excellent. Definitely an upgrade over my last visit. Not a single complaint.

[Nitr0]

This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?

Nice informative post!

I have just a bit to add.

Pay options: Club-Amour (http://club-amour.com/top.php) in Shinsaibashi, which has been detailed before, is also pretty good. I think I might try to their 3P option sometime, as that's probably something I would likely never get without paying. Ha.

Freebies: The Blarney Stone ("Irish" pub) in Shinsaibashi seems to attract some gaijin hunters. I had success there recently.

Sam and Dave Umeda (dance club) is another option and is open to 5 a. M. On weekends. The crowd in general does not seem overly interested in foreigners (white guys) , but I managed to take a girl home last time I went.

Question: Does anyone know of any happening bars (aka swingers' bars) in Osaka? Hatguy has detailed his experiences at one in the past, and I'd be interested in trying my luck at one. I understand the reluctance to share this info publicly, but if someone would be so kind as to PM me, I can assure you that I won't pass on the info to anyone else, won't mention that I came on someone's recommendation, and certainly won't break the Wa (have lived here for 8 years and speak business-level Japanese).

[Sakaisuji]

This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?

Hello, I always enjoy reading your reports.

Where are the freelancers located in Shinsaibashi / Amemura?

There are many freelancers in Tennoji in the underground between the jr station and the park. The majority of them aren't young and attractive. There are also some in the small side streets on the McDonalds side. From the station cross the street at the McDonalds turn left then right and walk under the covered shopping street until you come to the 7-11. If U-turn right 1 block after it you'll find a lone love hotel and a few street walkers during the evening.

[Azure Knight]

This board has never been that active to begin with, but it seems like Kansai in general is slumping as of late. What's going on?

As far as I can tell, this is where we stand.

Pay options. Tobita is still one of the best bets. Still an issue of whether or not they'll accept you, but try to look nice and go during the slow times and you'll have a better shot. Other options include Club Queen, Muki-Umeda, and the BJ place CodeX found. Incall options have really taken a beating since the Chinese joints packed up and left. If your Japanese skills are passable you can try your luck with a DH place. Last I checked the Korean services gave FS and were more foreigner friendly, but I don't know if that's changed recently.

Freelancers. There have been random reports of sightings around the Izumi no Hiroba in Umeda, Ebisucho / Nagahoribashi, and maybe Shinsaibashi / Amemura. If you want to go virtual use the deai sites happymail, wakuwaku, and asobo. All of them require points you buy to send messages and view profiles. They're all a crap shoot. Not so much scammers, but the quality and the willingness to meet foreigners wildly varies. I've used happymail and wakuwaku with some degree of success, but not asobo yet. Every Japanese person seems to be on Line these days and I've heard there are deai deals that go down but personally I don't use it all that much so I have no idea.

Freebies. Club Pure in Osaka. The Hub in Umeda, although most Hubs are pretty good. Captain Kangaroo in Umeda can also be good depending on the night. The Shinsaibashi area. Anywhere depending on how good your pick-up game is. Though times have changed and now we have to work a bit harder for it, at least compared to before.

Meeting girls online. Mixi used to be a goldmine. It's lost a lot of its former glory, but there are still some scraps left there if you're willing to throw some hooks out. Most Japanese people have officially migrated to Facebook, and if there's a good way to meet girls off that I don't know it yet. Some iPhone apps include Skout and Blendr. I hooked up with one girl off Skout, am currently chatting with one (she's long-distance, so I have almost no hopes for this one) and was talking with another one before she quit. I have yet to actually be able to initiate a conversation with anyone on Blendr. There's Tagged which supposedly has a good Filipina representation, but I have never had any success with it. Then there's the regular friend-making sites if you want to try a more classic approach.

Am I missing anything?

[JapanMonkey]

Ok. According to your description it is on the opposite side of the hotel (hotel to one side, station dividing, Y to the other). Being at the Y (easy to find, very good idea to use the Y as example!) , would it be at the Y's head or at the Y trunk? Anyway, I will explore the entire "letter" next time I go there!