Frankfurt

[XXL]

Is it rather safe to visit the different joints and stripclubs there? Will you get ripped off there, or is it ok. To have some beers and watch a strip show without being overbilled and getting into trouble?

I never patronized the strip clubs and joints where someone on the pavement tries to talk you into getting in. You feel under pressure even before stepping in.

There's fun to be had with the girls in the "Laufhäuser" (open-door brothels).

[Foolish]

n RLD of Frankfurt you should at least speak and understand some German. The business of RLD was really slow at noon. You probably should go there in the evening to try your luck. Remember the 30 euro a pop rule in RLD of Frankfurt!

Thanks. I can speak very basic German & Romanian, but not really up to snuff for serious negotiating.

Will probably check it out late as you recommended.

F

[UShobbyist]

I'm thinking of visiting the RLD this Friday around noon for the first time (have FKK experience). Been reading old posts, does anyone have any decent leads recently? I will check out Elbastrasse 55 and Taunasstrasse 36. Looking for some slim cheap anal girls. Thanks,

F.

Your FKK experience won't help you in RLD of Frankfurt. You do not need to speak any German and can still have a good time in FKK clubs. In RLD of Frankfurt you should at least speak and understand some German. The business of RLD was really slow at noon. You probably should go there in the evening to try your luck. Remember the 30 euro a pop rule in RLD of Frankfurt!

[Mister Dante]

First of all, mad props to SwingerLover and SvenFKK for responding so quickly to my introduction. I apologize for taking so long in replying back. I spent the past week in North Dakota. Based on my time there, I think they should change their state motto to Where the Men are Men and the Sheep are Scared! I apologize to anyone from the great state of North Dakota in advance. You have a lovely state (#scarcasm)!

If only everybody would lay out his itinerary as detailed as you did, when posting his questions! Much easier to give helpful answers.

Thanks, SL. I figure I'm the one asking for help, and its my job to provide as detailed information as possible in my request.

The lack of language skills might become a problem when you are at whatever club and there should be no other guests to talk to. Which could make time between sessions pretty boring. I don't know about the language skills of the girls at FKKs, at Treff-188 they did not speak much English; but maybe that has changed in the meantime!

From reading the other reports, it sounds like a strong number of the Palace girls speak at least passable English, but less so at the World and Oase. Hopefully, some of you expats and multilingual mongers will join me during my time in country. I am trying to at least learn some basic German phrases before going, but failing all that, I'll go with gestures and muddle through at the clubs.

Since you are looking mostly for GFE with DFK and are also open for AO, I think Dolce Vita in Raubach should be a must for you.

Based on your recommendation, and my reading the forum, DV is now on my agenda.

At Treff-188, they will have a Gangbang-motto on SAT 1st; Gangbang every two hours from 16:00.

I think I'm going to skip out on Treff-188 after reading more. I read SvenFKK's recent report, and the back reports on FKK Dietzenbach, and I think I'm going to do the 3 for 90 euro deal there. It seems like there are numerous reports that the all-you-can-fuck buffet at Treff-188 only allows one shot with each girl guaranteed. If there's only 3 girls there (which seems to be a possibility) , a trip to Dietzenbach seems more logical (e. G. More girls to chose from, higer quality than Treff-188, etc.). Maybe the situation at Treff-188 will be different with the gangbang motiff? Thanks for the Dietzenbach recommendation, Sven!

For Friday 7th, I'd like to suggest Melanie Moon's Spermabang event in Saarbrücken from 14-20:00.

Unfortunately, my schedule's been altered and I won't be able to break free from obligations that Friday until around 20:00, so I'll miss out on the Spermabang event this trip. Its a damn shame too! I've seen some of those on my favorite wanking sites, and holy shit they look fun! I think I might try one of the swingers clubs you mentioned.

Again, thank you guys so much for your help with my upcoming trip. I have a few questions regarding individual FKK's, but I'll make sure those are posted in the appropriate forums.

[Uni Den]

Thanks guys the posts and suggestions are really helpful. This being my first time to Frankfurt I think I should play safe and skip RLD's and Partytreff and would only hit FKK's to avoid scammed.

BTW, I have this thing for english speaking Russians or women from Ukraine and Uzbek. Any FKK or other places where I can find them in and around frankfurt?

[Foolish]

I'm thinking of visiting the RLD this Friday around noon for the first time (have FKK experience). Been reading old posts, does anyone have any decent leads recently? I will check out Elbastrasse 55 and Taunasstrasse 36. Looking for some slim cheap anal girls. Thanks,

F.

[Westside2003]

Hello. Going to frankfurt for a 3 days trip on thurdsay. We will stay at Taunus street in the middle of the RLD. Most of the mongering will happen at Palace and Oase where we have been before, and maybe also at Mainhatten.

Haven't been to the RLD before. Is it rather safe to visit the different joints and stripclubs there? Will you get ripped off there, or is it ok. To have some beers and watch a strip show without being overbilled and getting into trouble?

I would also appriciate tips on good massage parlours in the area.

The walk ups seemed pretty safe. There were some obvious rip off strip clubs with super aggressive touts and no one inside. I wasn't sure about which of the larger ones were OK, so I skipped them entirely.

[Vagabond]

Hello. Going to frankfurt for a 3 days trip on thurdsay. We will stay at Taunus street in the middle of the RLD. Most of the mongering will happen at Palace and Oase where we have been before, and maybe also at Mainhatten.

Haven't been to the RLD before. Is it rather safe to visit the different joints and stripclubs there? Will you get ripped off there, or is it ok. To have some beers and watch a strip show without being overbilled and getting into trouble?

I would also appriciate tips on good massage parlours in the area.

[EastGoing]

Just a couple of lines because in a few hours I'll have to wake up for my flight to Russia, where I don't know if and when I'll be able to have an internet connection. So, I've been to treff188 today, atmosphere somehow friendly and not as cold and "professional" like Caligula, but it's a place worth avoiding. Contrarily to normal, pics show correct photos of the girls you are going to meet. In spite of theorical 20 mins (and if I'm not mistaken they advertise 30) per session, they'll expect you to finish in 5-10 mins, and I was refused second tour by a girl I had already been with. The most fuckable of them does everything covered, including BJ, and chooses positions, anyway a matter of few minutes, while the others I tried (4) perform it unskillfully. There seemed to be regulars, when I arrived there were some 5 girls and as many punters, in a couple of hours men were more than 10, when I left, one hour later, at 8pm, the little bar was overcrowded with men and the girls were about 6-7. Anyway, especially those who have never had this kind of experience, feel free to have a try. I will not go back there, I might in flatrate in Berlin, where BBBJ is every session a 10 euros extra.

Hoping this helped

[Eempee]

hello,

i am visiting fra next week and looking forward to fkk along with some erotic massage. i have been to oase and palace many times but never been to any of the massage studio. which is better among kaskade, pam and velvet. any recommendation of the masseur in these studios.

thanks,

eempee

[Chris42]

Greetings. I will be traveling in this region and I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a partytreff or a Pauschalclub between Darmstadt and Freiburg.

My current choices are between: Villa Palma (http://195.243.107.85/hp/villa_palms/) , Club Babylon (http://www.club-babylon.de/) and Club Dream in Switzerland (http://www.club-dream.ch/index.php).

Any thoughts on these or alternate suggestions?

Your response much appreciated.

Chris.

PS: Also posted on the Stuttgart forum

[SvenFKK]

Firstly, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for providing such excellent intel. There's a vast sea to sort through and I have very much enjoyed my review, which has taken the past couple days. I have a few questions, but mostly want to run my plans by you guys and see what you think.

Drive to Dietzenbach. See my newest post in the FKK-clubs thread.

[SwingerLover]

If only everybody would lay out his itinerary as detailed as you did, when posting his questions! Much easier to give helpful answers.

I'll be flying into Frankfurt Sat. June 1. Fri June 7. I'll have Saturday and Sunday to enjoy myself, as well as the following Friday evening before my flight takes me back to the USA (a. K. A."The Ninth Level of Mongering Hell").

Is this something like Sweden, having been called "The Saudi-Arabia of feminism" by someone on ISG a while back?

My Assets

3. My "fun" budget for the 2, 5 days will be in the neighborhood of 1, 200 euro. I'm not cheap, but I do appreciate a good deal.

My Liabilities

1. My German language skills. Yeah, they're non-existant outside of what I've picked up on this forum. English speaking only.

2. Tied with Asset # 2 (see above) is that I've obviously never driven in Germany before. In fact, I've never driven anywhere outside the USA I'm looking at it as an adventure!").

So you are coming from "The Ninth Level of Creeping-around-on-the-highway-at-55-miles-per-hour Hell" to Germany to lay some rubber onto Hessen's Autobahn asphalt. Just watch out that you don't get overtaken by too many eighteen-wheelers!

The lack of language skills might become a problem when you are at whatever club and there should be no other guests to talk to. Which could make time between sessions pretty boring. I don't know about the language skills of the girls at FKKs, at Treff-188 they did not speak much English; but maybe that has changed in the meantime!

I don't think you will need your entire "fun-budget" of 1200 €. Even with the gas money included (for all the driving I posted below) I think 900 € should do. That is if you don't let yourself get ripped off and don't spend 70 € on an entrance fee for only a 2 hour stay.

My Preferences

1. 70% of the time, I'm looking for GFE. DFK and light touching is a must, so thanks to everyone who has put so much emphasis making that clear to FKK girls.

2. 25% of the time, I'm looking for a quickie or an optifuck. Let me put my rod in a tight hole and get off while I eat a cheeseburger!

3. 5% of the time, I'm looking for the freaky. CIM, anal, AO, rimming, etc.

My Plan:

Treff-188: Yes, I know the reports are bad (and old) but I can't ignore the "all-you-can-fuck" aspect of the place. Plus, it looks like it's only a 15 minute drive or so from where I'll be staying. I plan to stay till around mid afternoon and head back.

Since you are looking mostly for GFE with DFK and are also open for AO, I think Dolce Vita in Raubach should be a must for you. I have never been there, but from what I'm hearing you should get AO-GFE with DFK in abundance for 40 € per session and a 40 € entrance fee. But I've heard that you will have to pay extra for drinks too. Nevertheless, it should be a good place for you to spend some of your time. Since you have a car, getting there and back will be no problem. It's around 66 minutes and 115 km away from Treff-188 in Eschborn. Have a look at my AO-map for the exact location of Dolce Vita Raubach: http://goo.gl/mps/Rk0pE DVR is open from noon to 2am or 1am after Sundays: http://www.dolce-vita-raubach.de/oeffnungszeiten/

At Treff-188, they will have a Gangbang-motto on SAT 1st; Gangbang every two hours from 16:00. Open until 3am, flatrate price of 90 € including softdrinks & food & sex with all women as often as you like from 11am to 3am. For Sunday 2nd, they advertise BBBJ. Kinda strange, since I thought BBBJ was common practice there. Keep an eye on their events list: http://treff-188.de/events.html

For Friday 7th, I'd like to suggest Melanie Moon's Spermabang event in Saarbrücken from 14-20:00. This should cover your freaky-CIM-AO-gangbang wish. It's around 102 minutes and 185 km away from Treff-188. So if you can leave early enough (noon) and stay until 20:00 to be back at FRA airport on 22:00, then I suggest to do this party. It's just been announced on MM's website, so it's brandnew info. For update and details keep an eye on my June-AO-party-map http://goo.gl/maps/9QbPR and on MM's Termine list: http://melaniemoon.net/index.php?site=1001. And on http://spermabang.com/events.html, where the event will be advertised (with the list of participating women) when the time is near.

So my suggestion for an altered plan would be:

Either roam the RLD or check out Palace on SAT morning and noon, then go to Treff-188 at around 15:00 and stay as long as you enjoy it. If you leave early, then RLD or Palace (whatever you didn't do in the morning) is an option for the evening. If you want to try a Swingerclub in the evening, then I'd suggest to give Susi & Jürgen a try: http://susiundjuergen.de/index2.htm

Sunday: Dolce Vita Raubach. If you don't want to stay there all day long, then maybe Oase or World too, according to your original plan. Or you take the 130 minutes and 245 km drive to Krefeld for an AO-party at the shabby apartment at Alte Linner Straße 7.

Friday: Melanie Moon's Spermabang in Saarbrücken. (I guess a Swingerclub after 20:00 will be out of the question; when do you fly back home?) If you have the evening too, then maybe Swingerclub Susi & Jürgen (again?) or Club Fantasy in Frankfurt Bergen-Enkheim from 20:30: http://www.club-fantasy.de/ (You will have to register by phone at both Swingerclubs! I think English will do.)

So far, so good. Make of that what you will. Just report your experiences, whatever and wherever they may be, back to us here on ISG, please. And posting your final schedule once you are here might also be helpful, maybe someone likes to meet and/or tag along. If you want that, then it might be in order to invest 20 $ in an ISG-subscrption, so you can use the forum's PM-system. Happy mongering!

Swingerlover

[Mister Dante]

Hello to all!

Firstly, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for providing such excellent intel. There's a vast sea to sort through and I have very much enjoyed my review, which has taken the past couple days. I have a few questions, but mostly want to run my plans by you guys and see what you think.

Me and My Schedule

A little bit about me, I'm your typical American guy in his mid thirties looking wide eyed at all the potential that Germany has to offer. I'm a relatively accomplished member of the USA hobbying community, but I'm smart enough to know that taking things oversesas is an entirely different ballgame. I'll be flying into Frankfurt Sat. June 1. Fri June 7. I'll have Saturday and Sunday to enjoy myself, as well as the following Friday evening before my flight takes me back to the USA (a. K. A."The Ninth Level of Mongering Hell").

My Assets

1. I have more than a 12-hour layover to enjoy, so while not a large amount of time, I think I can do some damage with 2, 5 days.

2. While in country, I'll have a rental with GPS and am not overly worried about distance or fuel thanks to work. I'm more concerned with maximizing my time.

3. My "fun" budget for the 2, 5 days will be in the neighborhood of 1, 200 euro. I'm not cheap, but I do appreciate a good deal.

4. Hotel isn't booked yet, and I'm not overly worried about cost thanks to work.

5. I have a relaxed and open demeanor, and I'd like to think I'm not an "ugly American". At least, I try not to be. In fact, I'm looking forward to learning a little bit about German culture (in between all the fucking and sucking, of course). Wow, that's tacky!

6. I practice good hygiene on a regular basis and am well groomed.

My Liabilities

1. My German language skills. Yeah, they're non-existant outside of what I've picked up on this forum. English speaking only.

2. Tied with Asset # 2 (see above) is that I've obviously never driven in Germany before. In fact, I've never driven anywhere outside the USA I'm looking at it as an adventure!

My Preferences

1. 70% of the time, I'm looking for GFE. DFK and light touching is a must, so thanks to everyone who has put so much emphasis making that clear to FKK girls.

2. 25% of the time, I'm looking for a quickie or an optifuck. Let me put my rod in a tight hole and get off while I eat a cheeseburger!

3. 5% of the time, I'm looking for the freaky. CIM, anal, AO, rimming, etc.

My Plan:

Saturday am

Flemmings: I'm leaning heavily towards staying here. Being right next to FKK Palace, I don't see how I can beat it. Since Palace is on my list, why not stay less than a minute walk away.

Treff-188: Yes, I know the reports are bad (and old) but I can't ignore the "all-you-can-fuck" aspect of the place. Plus, it looks like it's only a 15 minute drive or so from where I'll be staying. I plan to stay till around mid afternoon and head back.

Saturday pm

RLD: It seems like a novelty that shouldn't be missed. Maybe one or two quickies before heading back.

FKK Palace: I plan on using this place to pop my FKK cherry. Three or four half hour sessions, enjoy the food, and dodge the sharks. Then a quick walk back to the hotel and bed.

Sunday am & pm

FKK? : This is where I'm having indecision. I know Sunday is going to be a slow day, but I'd like to spend it at either Oase or World. I figure early June, it should be a nice day to relax, sun bathe, and get multiple sessions. I just need to figure out which one would be best.

Friday pm

I would really like to venture out and try my luck at a swingers club, but I'm not sure my options are that stellar in or around Frankfurt.

Again, I really appreciate all the information that has gotten me this far in the planning phase, and any of our comments or suggestions would be welcome. I am still reading through the back reports, and likely will be for days to follow.

[Angus Magee]

Hello Angus.

Does such a woman exist? All joking aside. Perhaps he is looking for a masseuse.

FiddyCent

If he wants massage there are plenty of good solid reports in the thread. All he has to do is read it. I also thought maybe he looks for a semi-pro market. This can be found is a very limited way on Kaufmich dot com and maybe some of the usual dating sites. This market, though it may exist, is nothing at all like the Ukrainian or Russian markets. The economics of Germany are simply not those of the FSU. One also needs to speak at least some sort of passable German and be willing to sort through the non pros and the pros masquerading as non pros. It is just not worth it IMO as a much better sort of woman can be found at any FKK or brothel.

AM