East China - Shanghai

[Five Aces]

The scam could be the girl will get on you, probably a HJ or a BJ, whatever needed to take your dick out, fill a condom with your fluids and then ask a few thousand RMB. No cash, no ATM card? They will follow you to hotel with your room number known to them.

Step 1, tell them a fake room number and go in your real room (they have to wait in the lobby anyhow).

I don't think you can count on them waiting in the lobby. Massage girls have no trouble getting to my room.

I have read reports here on ISG of these thugs taking a credit card and actually imprisoning a victim until they max out the card. These scams can be very dangerous. The only way to handle them is to not walk into them. Do not go anywhere with a tout on the street, male or female. If you want to have a little fun instead of getting robbed then read the forum to find out where and how.

[BionicMan]

So definitely too good to be true.

So am curious. And will probably help the next person as well. What is this scam? Anyone know? Do they just pretend 100rmb to 1000rmb? Possibly I am a tourist with only 200rmb in my pocket with no ATM / credit card?

Thanks for help in advance.

The scam could be the girl will get on you, probably a HJ or a BJ, whatever needed to take your dick out, fill a condom with your fluids and then ask a few thousand RMB. No cash, no ATM card? They will follow you to hotel with your room number known to them. Up to you then on how to handle this. Want to go to police? You can, but magically a video with your dick, condom filled, will come to surface. Having sex with a prostitute is illegal. So your word of being scammed vs. The video evidence, go imagine which prevails. How to escape this if trapped?

Step 1, tell them a fake room number and go in your real room (they have to wait in the lobby anyhow).

Step 2, ask hotel to change room number anyhow.

Step 3, change hotel.

If police is involved, book the first flight out of the country, and plan not to be able to go ack to PRC.

FS in saunas are around 800 or more, so nobody will give you FJ or entertain you for 200, even if only for a cup of tea, when at least 2-3 or more people have been involved and they got to have their earning or their working time.

[Five Aces]

Just quickly browsed your threads on KTV. I can give you guys some recs (all vetted) on some places or some mamasans you can call to setup your KTV run if you guys are looking for info. No I'm not affiliated with any of them, just some of the places that we go and are familiar with / trust.

I unfortunately don't have a pm-able account, so if you tell me more specifically on the price range / area of town you are looking for, maybe I can throw up a couple KTV names / addresses and what they offer / their prices / links to their contact (since I don't know if ISG allows numbers to be posted).

To narrow it down a bit, how about a couple of recs for KTV in Puxi in the mid price range? I will really appreciate it as I have never been to one.

[Five Aces]

I would be up for some KTV fun as well, I'm sure there are more than a few forum members who are interested in hitting up KTV once in a while.

I am trying to organize a KTV night for sometime during the week of July 14-20th? So far there are two of us interested. You are welcome to make it 3.

[Simple Me]

So definitely too good to be true. However, as a infrequent visitor to Shanghai, I was walking around the Bund area and got offered 100rmb for 1-hour massage (including all services, including sex as well. Which I clarified couple of times directly). Anyways, I had a little time and frankly was curious, this guy had been nagging me for 10-mins, just randomly following me on the street showing me pics of girls on his phone. So decided to check out his place.

Small joint with "Tea / Coffee" wording splashed on the entrance door, just 1 room plus couple of rooms on 1st floor, on a busy road, near the Bund. Walked in. 3-4 girls, taken up to a room with seemingly namesake karaoke machine, asked to pick from 3 girls, frankly girls were nice looking. I confirmed with the girl-in-charge 100rmb for all service. I was anyways not looking to partake, just inquiring, so declined and decided to leave. Some pressure to not leave, including hand holding, and laughable slashing of price to 50rmb and then 20rmb to just sit with the girl for 5-10 mins, offer to give me water / soda to just chat. Followed me out of joint asking why I didn't like her girls, said the reason price was so low because it is dinner time and no customers usually during dinner-time (was around 7pm). I bid adieu.

So am curious. And will probably help the next person as well. What is this scam? Anyone know? Do they just pretend 100rmb to 1000rmb? Possibly I am a tourist with only 200rmb in my pocket with no ATM / credit card?

Thanks for help in advance.

[Sakasura1]

Would be great if could send info about some of the better economical KTVs in Puxi. Also, would be great to party with you. But there is no way to contact you!

I would be up for some KTV fun as well, I'm sure there are more than a few forum members who are interested in hitting up KTV once in a while.

Been lurking for a few months, mostly because there wasn't much I could contribute given the amount of reports out here, but I have a bit more experience now. I mostly go to Hong Song, and for the guys who go there, it's interesting to note that the girls have a quota of how many repeat customers they need every 2 weeks. If they don't hit their quota they will be fined; if they do it's a reward of about 10 customers worth. If the girl senses that you could be a repeat, her attitude will improve drastically. Obviously this works with any venue but it goes double for Hong Song. Turnover at HS is fairly high, since its the newest of a chain of venues, which explains why HS prices are a third higher than others like Merrylin. New girls at HS are brought in after 3, and put into the right corner in the last row.

Also HS is one of the few places where if you choose a double you can actually get girl on girl action. However this will only be done by specific couples, and you can't pick them yourself, its the friend of the one that you chose when she tries to get you to buy another. I will be heading back there this weekend, will report my findings.

[Dewdrops]

Last month I went there after 12.30 midnight and the guy at the reception wanted 880 upfront! Even before entering, forget seeing the girls or taking shower! He said as it is after 12.30am so pay in advance. Is this routine or another bullshit from this fuck all place?

A couple years back I visited Siyuan and the girl wanted me to jack off for her! I too had to do the 'get dressed and leave routine' to get her back to work. Like I said, LAST time I was there. Too many other places to waste any time there again.

[Mike921]

I felt like a good soapy sauna pampering so I took the subway over to the Merrylin Hotel's 3rd floor (Century Ave. Exit 12 is closest).

The wank / soapy being over I put my shorts and jacket back on and told her I was leaving. After a howl or two she could see that I meant it and called the manager. Using gestures mostly I explained what had happened and that I was going to leave.

A couple years back I visited Siyuan and the girl wanted me to jack off for her! I too had to do the 'get dressed and leave routine' to get her back to work. Like I said, LAST time I was there. Too many other places to waste any time there again.

[Playboy2000]

Just quickly browsed your threads on KTV. I can give you guys some recs (all vetted) on some places or some mamasans you can call to setup your KTV run if you guys are looking for info. No I'm not affiliated with any of them, just some of the places that we go and are familiar with / trust.

I unfortunately don't have a pm-able account, so if you tell me more specifically on the price range / area of town you are looking for, maybe I can throw up a couple KTV names / addresses and what they offer / their prices / links to their contact (since I don't know if ISG allows numbers to be posted).

Would be great if could send info about some of the better economical KTVs in Puxi. Also, would be great to party with you. But there is no way to contact you!

[Masslin]

Hi,

I would also be interested by this information. If someone could post them on the forum, that would be really nice!

Check this Chinese website:

http://www.shlf123.com/thread-820-1-1.html

They provide the ISO full service.

Rates&65306;

700 rmb / 70 mins

[Five Aces]

I felt like a good soapy sauna pampering so I took the subway over to the Merrylin Hotel's 3rd floor (Century Ave. Exit 12 is closest).

I was going to pick a knockout girl when the manager rushed in and removed her from the fishbowl. Someone must have asked for her. My second choice was fine also. But instead of her I picked another one on impulse at the last second. She was cute in a homely way and a big mistake.

She took my hand in front of the manager but when we got to the room she didn't want to be touched. She was bored and indifferent. She didn't want to do the soapy but I kind of made her. She rubbed a bit of soap on me with a sponge and gave me a half hearted hand job with no ending and that was all there was to her soapy.

The wank / soapy being over I put my shorts and jacket back on and told her I was leaving. After a howl or two she could see that I meant it and called the manager. Using gestures mostly I explained what had happened and that I was going to leave.

He offered to take me back to the fishbowl to get another girl but he wanted 500 more. I said no I would rather leave than pay that much. He put it down to 300. I said I didn't think I should have to pay for what I got and that I was still leaving. He said Ok only 200 more so I took that.

At my 2nd fishbowl I picked my original 2nd choice (#883). That was the right thing to do. She was excellent in all departments except wouldn't allow DATY. I would do it with her again in a flash. Great soapy and touched all the bases.

The last two times I went to Siyuan Sauna the girl wouldn't allow DATY. At other sauna's I never got an argument about it. Is this a common experience at Siyuan with the rest of you?

[JohnDoe2121]

OK so moved here a short while ago and have been reading this forum. Decided to try out a bbs.

From what I have read there were supposed to be like 4 on Yinshan Road and like 3 on Jintai Road. I decided to walk both streets and just see what there was.

Went out there with only a room key, metro pass, and 300 yuan.

Took the line 6 to. Yunshan Road and exited #2. Walked south to Yinshan Road took a left walked the street all the way to Zaozhuang Road hung a left and went turned right on Jintai Dd and walked all the way down. Along both roads on various sides of the street I noticed actual barbershops and could see people really getting their haircut so I figured it couldn't be these places. But as I was walking these streets you could see these "massage parlors" with the guests waiting area seats with 3-4 women in skirts just sitting there. Bingo.

But I have also read the negatives about people going into these places and getting busted on the way out by by either the "police" and having to pay a bribe or the women's "husbands" and having to pay those bastards off.

So I walked back down Jintai and the street actually had lots of people on it, so It didn't feel right. I decided on a shop in the middle of yinshan Road.

189&21495; Yin Shan Lu Pu Dong Xin Qu &8206; (paste this into google maps and its exactly there in the corner of this building.

Any who I'm nervous. I walk up and there are 2 women in the chairs and one stands up immediately asking if I want a massage, she is busted as hell (face 3 & body 7) I say how much? She counts 1, 2.3. I say full service? She counts again. I point at her mouth and to my crotch and she nods yes. Ok I'm still nervous as hell So I agree but point at the other girl who is still sitting and is an average 7 (face 7 body 7) She seems to be about 33 ish. She takes me threw a curtain up some stairs into a room with 2 beds separated by a blanket. I walk over to a bed she pulls the blanket to close off this 4foot X 8foot space with one bed (a blanket but no sheets) We both strip she does the BJ with a hat on and then a few different positions and were done. All in all only about 15min up there. I pay her the 300 after I get clothed.

All I can think about now is getting the eff out of there and not get jumped on the street LOL. I'm not the biggest guy but I aint little either. In the end I'm just paranoid and make it to the train fine.

Would I do it again. Probably not. It felt dirty but I had to try it especially for 50 bucks LOL. If I were to do it again I would walk into a few different shops and look for the best looking Girl and get them to 150-200 for just FS be / see the BJ with a hat sucks but I would rather be safe than sorry.

[Braquo]

I am sure we are all happy to read you share the feeling we had in reading your report. We are not here for the best erotic literature, nor we are for raw meat descriptions, just as we do not to read to the Ph degree of girls wetness. Mere facts with a bit of environment to the story will do.

Too much flowers make it fake, just like moaning of some working girls.

You don't need to conquer anyone of the readers to be trusted. Just give back what you learned here.

Ok well noted.

I will be less in the details for the upcoming reviews.

I have a few to share, some publicly available (HuJing, Cindy, Sam) , some that seems to be well know in bars (but found on wechat and badoo) , others I met in Sauna or on Wechat.

I will try to post regularly, but it is difficult when you have a wife and kids to take care of!

[Carage]

Hi guys, long time lurker, never posted til now. You guys rock. So, I enjoy a good sauna from time to time. My question is the following. I can't figure out what is the best time to go to a sauna and to get the best selection. What time is best to go in order to get a good lineup? Sometimes it seems really inconsistent. My last visit to Bodi was early (1:15 pm?) and there was only one choice. The time before, I also visited and there were many choices. Is it better to go right when a sauna opens, or in the afternoon, or later at night? When do the best girls arrive? Seems like the day of the week also matters.

Any thoughts about this?

Bodi used to be my favorite, but after the lack of selection last time, I'm not sure if I should go back. Was I just unlucky or what are peoples' experiences these days?

2PM should be about right.

[MrClen]

Braquo-first of all you don't need to "earn confidence"-Some of the people on site are experienced and others only visit China periodically and are so ("what's the word I want to use") impressed, excited, surprised or whatever about the sex in China and the price.

I have been doing China for 15 years now, started in Shenzhen area. My vendors would take me to KTV and send me home with two or three girls at a time, one had a body guard that during the day when he was at factory, the body guard searched out all the new saunas and KTV places. Then the fun began. I have done the sauna circuit, cat bath, toe fuck, and so on. A few years back I move all my vendors to areas by SH and Ningbo and I have a circuit I travel. My first night in the Ningbo area, a new vendor took me to dinner and back to hotel. Call mamason at KTV and had her send up three girls for my inspection. I picked one and agreed on price. Mamason was short handed that night so girl had to work a few more hours. Vendor handed me the money and said girl back in two hours. Sure enough two hours later, knock on the door and had a great evening. So its who you know and who they know for the great times.

SH is an exciting city, with many venues and choices of beautiful women. But the majority are money hungry in this new and upcoming country, especially SH.

I have had my good, bad, and wonderful women in SH. I enjoy a variety of things. Since I frequent SH every two months for 15-20 days at a time I have time to enjoy the variety. I met a lovely young married girl a few years back, she is 30 years younger than me. We have a great time in SH. No pressure since she is married. She is not high maintenance, but we do enjoy fine dining and good times. She is always giving me gifts. I enjoy her greatly.

I do my homework on DIA and Badoo. I met some great women and some real SH money hungry women. I don't go to Manhattans or saunas.

For example RAIN was great when she started, reasonable and good at what she did. Now she has doubled her price and has a stable at a very high rate, because she made a reputation for herself. But that will run its course with the experienced SH travelers. Shanghai nightlife list of girls is growing and so are their prices. The successful girls, start stables and just send anybody. You have to think with the big head not the small one. If she arrives at your door and she does not look good or you have her in the room and she is not what you want give her a 100RMB and send her packing.

You mentioned Beverly Jones. Well she is one good girl. The best of the best, I agree. We have become good friends and do all night. Spend at least two or three hours improving her English language skills. She wants to learn. Beverly is one you keep close, as if one of your new DIA or Badoo girls that you have set a meet up with does not work, just contact Beverly or one of your regulars in the taxi on the way back to your hotel.

I am lucky that have spent so many years building a list of friends in SH who I keep in touch. I am never alone if I want company for an evening or lazy day.

For the infrequent traveler to SH, the saunas and Manhattans are a sure thing. So enjoy them. Don't be afraid to negotiate price, but be fair and nice.

I had an experience last trip in May. Meet this nice lady on Badoo. Communicated for a month. Met up in SH for dinner, back to hotel. She was great in bed, sent her home in the morning. She is a stalker! Received texts all day long for two days, the third day, knock on my door, thought it was maid for cleaning. Opened the door and there she was with a tea gift. I quickly grabbed my briefcase and said I had meeting to go to and left. Changed rooms that evening. She texted for two weeks.

So just be careful what you tell them about yourself, don't get picked up on the streets, have multiple e mail accounts and get two phone numbers when in China. One for play and one for business.

When you think about going out till 1 or 2 in the morning, spending money on taxi, drinks and 1000-1500rmb for manhattans girls and getting drunk and miserable for work the next day. A good friend for 2, 000 rmb all night that you know is a lot easier and more fun. At least you know what your getting.

Oh yea. A weekend in Sanya or Macua will usually win the DIA and Badoo girls over real quick.

Just my moments and thoughts. Some will agree with me and some will not.

Great Post and one I enjoyed reading. Right on many of your points! I too have a regular and others I can call on a need basis, but still like to find the gems, although they are rare. I am a bit older than you. 70+ so the age difference is really there, but when the monies are right, it's no problem. And as I am a gentleman and never in a hurry to finish and enjoy giving the girl as much pleasure as I am receiving, there has never been a problem with them coming back on an as need basis.

You sound much like me, I have done the sauna thing, wasn't what I had hoped, and don't like being the next in line, kind of turns me off. I tend to enjoy the KTV play time and the girls there. Yes, it does cost a bit more, but to me it is a more satisfying experience, fun and games and and a full night is what floats my boat! I am still looking for the wilder KTV experience, and once will probably be enough, but I still want to try it.

I too come to China 4 to 5 times per year and normally go up north to my vendors, however on the trip coming up in late August, I will arrive in HK, and proceed to CP for a couple days before I head north, as I have possible new vendors to check out in the area. Any chance you may be in the area-would be fun to meet up for a couple drinks and maybe one of the flower streets and KTV's. Mrclen