Pattaya Reports

[Marcos]

Sponsorship is just something you can't see. You need inside info. From those in the know. I haven't a clue what percentage of them have sponsor. I just can't think its too many. Are there that many idiots out there?

There is _plenty_. However, sponsorship goes by strange almost unpredictable mechanisms. I know this older laundry lady that works the Walking Street pub occasionally, she's slim, in good shape, has good manners, good English and good conversation. Performs decently in bed (without being a tigress) , unlike the "no this and no that" girls. She also tried the dating websites, yet far nothing has worked for her, no BF, and no sponsor, and the months / years are going by.

But as you walk you see truly ugly, overweight women with men apparentely even younger than them, and we heard how they had multiple sponsors. I believe the stories about trucks and homes bought over the years to be true. Other Thai ladies are the first to be surprised when they come across an old shag sucking out money off foreigners better than hot go-go girls. And of course for the latter is really not too difficult to make decent figures. I have also seen girls with unexpected economic resources, as I mentioned time ago, the ladybar driving a brand new Yaris, that was supposed to be for her father, but she just stuck to it for now. I never gave her much, but she never mentioned I should have. Few nights ago I had a young cuties overnight for 1K, she works in a bar and (according to her) the regular fee for ST is 2K including 300 barfine. She didn't had any issue with the large difference.

The mechanics of money flowing around pussy is just surprising here, things are not so plain as one may think.

[Streetwalker7]

I believe onnthe fact you saw the sposnit and on your deductions, but not much, and maybe I am wrong, in her "statements". I mean, sometime girls tend to show off what they don't have, not to lose face with the friends.

What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. I have a (girl) Irene who aha a kind of a sponsor and pays her the flights from BKK to Phuket when he goes there for a week or ten days, and pays her friend toomsonshe has somebody along. And there is no sex, believe it or not (thats what she says). But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.

For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.

Stop being puzzled. LOL. You are bringing back fond memories of this girl. I really liked her.

I have no freaking idea what guy is paying. I just made a guesstimate of what I think would be appropriate. My thinking is you need to replace hooking income then add a premium for girl to take the offer. Even a bottome feeder type girl would need $1500 a month to hang up the bra and panties. LOL. Who knows.

Lets say guy is paying $1500 a month is that more acceptable and believable? To me no matter the amount it is just stupid. LOL.

If her friends were willing to let me call Bam it leads me to believe sponsor still lives in Europe.

Your example of a 10 day barfine. Why wouldn't guy pay 40, 000. If girl is hot she should ask for more!

Girl has never made any statements to me about her deal and I never asked her directly. Looking back I wish I was a bit more inquisitive.

[Streetwalker7]

If that were the case we would see a bunch of these girls living in the lap of luxury, in plush condos, driving new motorbikes and new Toyotas. And I just don't see that happening around here. You can talk about them sending money home, but even if they did rake in $2500 they would not be fool enough to send $2000 to their family and live off of $500 (as you can tell is probably what most of these girls live off of - if that). Anyway, I think that what the girl makes off just working in the gogo is grossly overestimated by many mongers on this board. They figure, "She is my style and I'm sure all the other punters like her so she has to be getting barfined 2 or 3 times everyday at 2000 baht/pop (or more judging from many reports)." You show me a gogo girl that is making US$4000/month. Shit ain't happening.

I agree $4000 is tough if one takes many days off for whatever reason, menstruation, etc.

Number 37 at Rainbow 4 is about the biggest moneymaker there is. She does get barfined almost everytime I'm there I see it with my own eyes and I'm usually there for no more than an hour. I have to believe she also get bf's when I'm not there at a high rate. If she doesn't get barfined it's an event. She will let me feel her up for a nominal fee. LOL. But many times I can't even say hello as she has a customer.

Once recently I even saw her go to the short time room at 8 pm, which means she also starts earlier than most of the hot chicks. 3 customer days probably not uncommon for this girl.

This girl can easily clear $1000 a week. The part I don't know about is how long can she go without taking extended holidays. The vagina can only take so much-one would think. LOL. Now, I haven't seen her for a while. No work no money!

2nd example of girl clearing $1000 a week. My Rainbow 4 favorite. She says she gets 1 customer a day. I think she gets more. LOL. Another one where I see her gettting barfined. Say she get 9 customers a week, thats$675 right there. Add in another $200 as she does do long time. Voila $1000 for a week. And this girl will work 3 weeks staright before heading home to drop off the baht to momma.

3rd example. Just last night I asked Rainbow 4 girl how much customers she gets in a day. She said 1-I think more. LOL. Another case where I see girl being barfined constantly.

I'm not saying these girls make $4k a month but these are some of the better earners I see. Examples 2 and 3 I estimate to make almsot $3000 a month. Quite successful one would think. LOL.

PS I don't ask girls who I don't see getting barfined how many customers they get. LOL.

Prelude to my next topic.

Rainbow 1. Customer base so small how do they make money. Theres just not enough customer money in that joint to make the girls happy. This place I don't see girls getting bfined constantly like at R4 R2 and Baccara.

35 girls working last night ending of prime time hours. I counted 12 customers. The baht just don't add up. And this place has pretty girls.

[Mr Enternational]

What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.

For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.

If that were the case we would see a bunch of these girls living in the lap of luxury, in plush condos, driving new motorbikes and new Toyotas. And I just don't see that happening around here. You can talk about them sending money home, but even if they did rake in $2500 they would not be fool enough to send $2000 to their family and live off of $500 (as you can tell is probably what most of these girls live off of - if that). Anyway, I think that what the girl makes off just working in the gogo is grossly overestimated by many mongers on this board. They figure, "She is my style and I'm sure all the other punters like her so she has to be getting barfined 2 or 3 times everyday at 2000 baht/pop (or more judging from many reports)." You show me a gogo girl that is making US$4000/month. Shit ain't happening.

[Kumbu]

The hotel desk clerk gave her the usual Thai interrogation all girls get

Not sure why Gunga is getting grief over this innocuous statement. I read it as a colorful description of what happens at every reputable hotel. The 'interrogation' can range from taking the girls identification and filing it away, to having a short conversation with the girl about the procedure (we take I.D., you go up and be respectful of the furniture, you come down, we call up to the guest to make sure everything is ok, you get your I.D. back). Nothing wrong with Gunga's description, except that it's an interesting way to capture the annoying nature of this banal event.

Why didn't you simply take your girl to a short-time hotel? That's the recommended practice anyway, for safety.

Again, I am with Gunga on this one, no disrespect to Opebo. I really don't like short time hotels. I guess I prefer to see the linens I am fucking on, and to know that the last person to shower in the stall was me. I know, it's irrational, but I feel safer and more comfortable in a room that I have for a longer period of time. Just my preference, and that's it.

[BionicMan]

Purely my deduction. See my forensic financial analysis. Tell if I'm way off or in the ballpark. It doesn't take a lot for a hot girl to make $1500 a month hooking at Rainbow 4.

You don't believe me or what? I've stated what is fact (I've seen the sponsor and sat next to him) and what is me speculating (the financial details).

Another tidbit- when her friends show me an updated photo of BAM she loooks really really good. Then they show me another one where she is without make-up- she don't look so good. LOL.

I've never seen her without her cosmetics face. So who knows what amount she actually commands.

I believe onnthe fact you saw the sposnit and on your deductions, but not much, and maybe I am wrong, in her "statements". I mean, sometime girls tend to show off what they don't have, not to lose face with the friends.

What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. I have a (girl) Irene who aha a kind of a sponsor and pays her the flights from BKK to Phuket when he goes there for a week or ten days, and pays her friend toomsonshe has somebody along. And there is no sex, believe it or not (thats what she says). But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.

For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.

[NomadicMong]

Not sure if you are responding to another poster or asking a question? Either way MFYB, the person to see is Chompoon but get her early? By night she is either gone or upstairs doing her upteen customer?

Thanks a bunch for advice for both of you. I will try it out in Sept.

[Streetwalker7]

Just to puthtings in perspection. Was that amount your assumption or her statement? I am just curious on which basis somebody is paying 2500$ a month to a thai girl and seeing her from tine to time.

Unless she has some fine arts we do not know about. But still. 30k a year?

Purely my deduction. See my forensic financial analysis. Tell if I'm way off or in the ballpark. It doesn't take a lot for a hot girl to make $1500 a month hooking at Rainbow 4.

You don't believe me or what? I've stated what is fact (I've seen the sponsor and sat next to him) and what is me speculating (the financial details).

Another tidbit- when her friends show me an updated photo of BAM she loooks really really good. Then they show me another one where she is without make-up- she don't look so good. LOL.

I've never seen her without her cosmetics face. So who knows what amount she actually commands.

[Fun Filled]

I am from India. We do have Bachelor of Business Administration In India. What will I get by lying people? Yea a few months ago I did post I was "18" it was a mistype and I meant 19. My birthday is in June so I turned 20 B-) Yes I do earn $5, 000 a month and all is saved because in India we all live with our parents, like everyone. We don't move out, that's the tradition, Joint Family, like in Japan so I don't incur expenses on food, shelter, clothing etc. I am working for flipkart as a marketing assistant for eastern zone hence the big package. So here it is, I didn't need to clarify but young and full of rage to prove myself you see. \

And yes as I told I have been to Bangkok "with my parents" so it was a family trip, never been here alone so I don't have nay idea about the mongering scene except for walk in MP's! Iv nothing to clarify, I just want genuine opinions and help. Thank you people.

Call me dumb, stupid whatever, it really doesn't matter. Am working my ass off to earn so I can happily have an enjoyable life ahead, for your info I did the research myself an found if a company based in Thailand employs me I can be in Thailand for as many years as I like, so already applied to many MNC's.

Cheers

The so called "DUMBFUCK"

Yeh so called Dumbfuck. Nish nish lying is an art and you still have to perfect it. In your previous post you say you are commerce graduate and in this post you say you are business graduate. I am still thinking. Now you say you are just 20. That mean you have just completed your graduation and you are making $ 5000.00 a month. I am sure most of us must be jealous of you. Even few guys from IIT and IIM don't get that kind of package.

Even I failed to under stand if you making $5000 how can you have saving of 50000 in 5 month. Cause 10% tax at source (TDS) will be deducted by your employee and since you come under 30% tax bracket you will still have 20% TAX liability.

So just get your fact right.

[BionicMan]

No proof. But I did see the sponsor (farang with long pointy nose slim build, wears glasses) with said girl in the bar many a times.

Just guessing. I'm no expert on sponsorship. It's not something one can see and observe.

Just to puthtings in perspection. Was that amount your assumption or her statement? I am just curious on which basis somebody is paying 2500$ a month to a thai girl and seeing her from tine to time.

Unless she has some fine arts we do not know about. But still. 30k a year?

[LittleBigMan]

"Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area."

"My Friend You Bar" on Soi 6, by far the best in the city.

Not sure if you are responding to another poster or asking a question? Either way MFYB, the person to see is Chompoon but get her early? By night she is either gone or upstairs doing her upteen customer?

[Streetwalker7]

I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?

Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)

It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.

No proof. But I did see the sponsor (farang with long pointy nose slim build, wears glasses) with said girl in the bar many a times. Darn it, I miss her a lot. Her friends even tell me to call her and say hello- they have her phone number and were willing to let me call on their mobile.

Here's my analysis. A popular Rainbow girl should be able to get 5 barfines a week, at least. Thats $375 then you add in salary, tips, drink commissions. One should easily make $500 a week. Or $2000 a month.

To make it worthwhile for the girl to leave the bar one needs to replace her bar income and then add a premium to it. Hence my figure of $2500.

Of course if the girl didn't like bar work maybe $1,500 a month would be sufficient. Highly doubtful though as I recal this girll needed to fund her farm family. I couldn't believe it when she told me her momma makes her help pull weeds or harvest the crops on their farm. You just don't make a good looker with nice tits do farm work. Girls who do farm work just don't age well.

Just guessing. I'm no expert on sponsorship. It's not something one can see and observe.

[Bill Miami]

"Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area."

"My Friend You Bar" on Soi 6, by far the best in the city.

[Member #4387]

I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?

Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)

It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.

US2500 sounds crazy but there are also crazy guys out there who are probably willing to pay up for exclusive pussy (atleast they think the pussy is exclusively theirs). I have met one girl in Thailand living in a guys apartment above the Emporium shopping mall and even access to his car. This guy visited Thailand 2-3 times a year (I don't know if she got additional money or any ammount though). She brought me back and we fucked like rabbits (so much for exclutivity).

In Phils a couple of weeks ago I had a girl showing me her skype, e-mails- and datingsitecommunication from some other punters. I had to laugh as she got from 3sponsors 50000piso (40000bht) each month all together. Not even met in real life (I could see that through their communication) only through internet. She laughed and I laughed. But ofcourse when you meet girls telling you they have sponsors I think maby the girls in general maby raise the numbers a bit (atleast while telling other girls operating the same way).

I did tell in the photothread something like when you visit the zoo you see signs "don't feed the animals" in immigrations all over SEA there should be big unavoidable signs telling "don't sponsor prostitutes as she will fuck others no matter what".

[BionicMan]

I know Rainbow 4 girl who doesn't work because of sponsorship. Quite a pretty girl, good earner. I would think guy has to be paying at least $2500 a month, and this has been going on for at least 4 years. That's

I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?

Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)

It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.