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[DesiDownUnder]

Will be in krabi around new years. Any recommendations on good GF hotels and where I can find some good ladies?

[Streetwalker7]

Excellent series of reports, C. C, well written and very interesting indeed.

After reading them I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to venture out of my comfortable hunting grounds in Pattaya for adventures into the wild Thai boondocks; hardly worth the trouble it seems. Thanks for telling it like it is.

Very well written. Prices will tell you all. Follow the baht!

[Daddy07]

Location : Local Bar Brothels. Ban Phe.

Excellent series of reports, C. C, well written and very interesting indeed.

After reading them I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to venture out of my comfortable hunting grounds in Pattaya for adventures into the wild Thai boondocks; hardly worth the trouble it seems. Thanks for telling it like it is.

[Member #4414]

Location : Local Bar Brothels. Ban Phe.

Specifics : Sala Sang Ka Si Soi '6'

Cost : B500 for FS (30mins) including room.

Directions (Photos attached to this post, to accompany text)

Walk West along the sea front until you see Christie's, a Restaurant and Bar situated opposite 'Tarau Pier' and perched at the entrance to 'Soon Kanka 1', next to one of Ban Phe's busy 7-11. Continue walking West and the next pier you will pass is called 'Chokkrista Pier'.

During the day, the next land mark to look for next (Photos #1 & 1a) is a lime green painted building on your right, a building that is directly opposite 'Seree Pier' (the landmark you can use if doing this at night) and is the landmark for the road north that you need to take next.

On Photo #1, both a white car and pink jeep are entering / leaving this wide road north, named Soi Sala Sang Ka Si. It seems this road is not marked in situ in latin script, but maps seem to show it as Soi Sala Sang Ka Si (or as Soi Sala Sangkasee).

*Walk / Ride North up this Soi Sala Sang Ka Si and soon pretty much everything turns to Thai Script. On the way you'll notice on your left a sign for Malibu Garden Resort (written as Graden) and soon also see the Market on that side. On the way, side streets on your 'right' that will be encountered, are in the following order. 'Soon Kanka 1/2' then 'Soon Kanka 2/2'. Ignore both of these and keep walking / riding north.

*Eventually, on your right, you'll reach the entrance to Soi Sala Sang Ka Si Soi '6' (Photos #2, 3.4 & 5). Entering this road to the East leads to the strip of local Bar Brothels (Photo #5). Walking, it took me about 5 minutes from Seree Pier to the entrance of Soi Sala Sang Ka Si Soi '6'.

During the day they appear to be nothing out of the ordinary, but what caught my eye during an evening hunt was that use of coloured wire lights visible down the dark road, something local Karaoke Joints enjoy using. All the Bars are named in Thai Script, lit up in coloured lighting and have a curtain over the door in most cases. Walking along the road, these places looked and felt promisingly seedy / covert.

Don't expect beer bar antics when passing these. Instead, it was rather like how a puppy may only bark when you get within a certain distance. Walking down the centre of the road, you probably won't be 'beckoned' in, but once you start walking towards a door all of a sudden they wake up and are welcoming like there is some invisible trip wire which sets off an alarm. On my first visit."Boom Boom, Sir?" was spoken by a girl in English. Mamasan's were always helpfull and had enough English to communicate the basics you need to arrange things.

During financial talk though, my smattering of Thai was used but it probably doesn't make much difference to the outcome unless your Thai is convincing enough to be seen as an Expat. All the Bars (clustered in a row, and one or two others situated down Nhong Bua Soi 1, heading south) were quite welcoming and didn't seem to mind that drinks were not ordered when just browsing girly options in each place.

Prices depended on the Girl, starting from B700 down to B300 (you could see why, for B300 though). Basically they are local watering holes with 4-5 Girls on offer in each, for 30 minute ST Boom Boom on site, seemingly fine with Falang customers. It reminded me slightly of the Sanur Houses in Bali, catering primarily to locals but flexible. Assuming by default at the time that quoted prices were likely to be double the local cost, there was a realistic (being Falang) counter by me of B300 to get things going. Infact I began discussion with B300 before even asking the prices, but they scoffed at that. Offers of B300 only got the munters in each place pointed out to me each time, and in all cases (no matter the individual starting quote) , B500 seemed to be the 'minimum'. On a later visit, a series of events led me to suspect locals pay B200 for our B500 visits. One quoted as B400 was worth a go, but I didn't get round to trying her on my three visits to the road.

Ban Phe was up until recently home to a TEFL school, and probably had a few long term Falang visits here from teaching staff? I base that on nothing but a guess, as the mamasans (and occasional local male drinkers) seemed reasonably comfortable and familiar with a Falang visit.

Or maybe they saw me as a novelty?

Looks wise, don't get me wrong you're not going to get pretty pretty pretty in these places for B500. Slim shapely bods that were better than the 'faces' attached seemed to be the way of things in these bars, but most were lighter skin that you would find in the average Falang Beer Bar and there were some quite big tits going on amongst the offerings, as the core clientelle are local Thai men who like that whole look more.

Generally the ages seemed to be early 20s, upwards to 30s. Visited this road three times. First time, good experience with a little cutie who was quite shy but did an ok job. Chose her and we walked from the main bar to a back room with a fan, decorated with posters of Thai pop stars (a sort of teenager's bedroom look) , better than a 'coffin room with grubby mattress' you'd expect. No English at all, but somehow you manage ok. During the session a bell briefly rang, probably one of those."Attention : You now have X number of minutes remaining" for the WG. Carried on, and not long after heard the bell ring again a couple of minutes after finishing, so my instinctive timing is impecible.

On her bed side she had a stock of 'issue' condoms. Her skill with BBBJ (initially she tried to put a condom on for that, but was stopped) was forgettable really, so it was soon onto FS (covered). Kept it short, simple and sweet (as she was). For B500 it was an interesting outing.

Visiting a second time, not so good. My visit was quite late in the evening (around 11:30pm) and may explain why none were exactly the life of the party when walking in. Looked at a passable girl in one of the places who responded poorly to me making eye contact, smiling and asking about her name while the mamasan was discussing with me, the Girl's response being a very "I'm unimpressed" expression which was a turn off and warning sign. Part of me (you known which) nearly chose her in a warped idea of 'teaching her a lesson' (LOL) for being snooty.

Ended up once more choosing the girl from my previous visit, but it was not as good the second time around at all due to how bored she seemed. Perhaps they are not used to 'repeat' visitors? Whatever the case, it was a perplexing second visit in how listless the atmosphere was.

Visiting the road a third and last time. Disastrous. Long story, but a girl negotiated with on the very first visit but not chosen on the night was picked for that third visit and is now in my hall of fame for being one of the most problematic working girls ever. Good body, but damn she managed to push my buttons like few people can. Had payment not been in advance (in advance seems to be the norm there) I would have walked within the first 5 minutes. Initial 'eccentricity' ended up showing up as infuriatingly awkward and mood wrecking from the start.

Anyway, for an alternative to falang bars, there you go.

[Member #4414]

Location : 'VIP Massage Karaoke Drinks and Lady' and 'Poon Massage'. Ban Phe.

Specifics : Both situated on Soon Kanka 1, opposite Tarua Phe Pier, near Christie's.

Opposite Tarua Phe Pier, is the road 'Soon Kanka 1', with Christie's and a main 7-11 either side of its entrance.

On an old web report related to TEFL, there was mention of a number of Karaoke / Massage places in the area behind both of those with about 4-5 ladies each, ST going for appx B1000 but likely negotiable. In 2013, things seem quite a bit different back in that zone. I didn't see a number of places there now, but there was a sign (Photo #3) on the main beach front road near Christies's pointing to 'VIP Massage, Karaoke, Drinks and Lady' (Photos 5, 6 & 7) , written in a combination of Thai and Latin script, pointing down Soon Kanka 1 (Photo #4).

Walking around in this area, the 'VIP' joint seemed to be the only 'real' player left.

It remained shut until early afternoon when a few ladies were milling about there, operating as a skeleton crew. I went in to have a quick drink and a recce. It has a tacky stage at the back where go go kind of dancing probably goes on, but in the afternoon was essentially dead inside.

Enquiring with the two or three ladies, apparently the place gets going from midnight onwards.

Each to their own, but waiting up that late for action is not my thing. General enquiry about ST Boom Boom on the premises was met with conformation, and enquiry about price led to a quote of B2000. Both aspects of the place were not attractive to me in the slightest. Initial impressions when seeing the sign from the main beach front road was that this place was a bit of a tourist trap and perhaps an attempt 'regulate' prior joints all in one single place, if it were not for the prevelant use of Thai script. Ladies inside said it was mix of Thai and Falang custom. It may be worth checking out if you're a night owl, but if B2000 was the guide price given then they'd better be good right? One in there day time was fair and had big tits. I would have certainly given her a load but she didn't seem to be particularly 'working' in the afternoon during my general enquiry.

Other buildings have the appearance of 'once' having harboured independent naughty massage / karaoke joints, but now seem to be shut down, empty and gathering dust. I found this to be a trend all over Ban Phe really, apart from a few legitimate massage joints operating in town.

Other than the so called 'VIP' place, one place (Photos 8, 9 & 10) further up Soon Kanka 1 opened at 6pm, and for the purpose of this report will be referred to as 'Poon' due to the signage.

According to the lone local guy inside, the women arrived at 7:30pm. B300 for 1hr Oil Massage, according to him. Decided to clarify things by enquiring with sign language if they do boom boom, and he nodded but didn't know how much they charge. Came back at 7:30pm and there were only three women inside, two in their mid 20s and one troll who may give a good massage but that was the limit of my interest.

Chose one and we headed upstairs, deciding en-route to clarify things in advance. It was actually B300 for 1hr Oil Massage, and talk of 'extras' was met by her mocking in a."Hey, do you know what this guy wants?" way to the woman downstairs, which was out of line and I began to walk. Heard a voice from downstairs say B1300 total for massage and boom boom. Ok, acceptable I guess but the mocking attitude ruined it for me so I didn't bother with either a massage of anything else. With only three on offer that night, certainly not a fishbowl but put up here for information / option purposes nonetheless.

Earlier in the day I had walked a bit further up Soon Kanka 1where it curves right to head down to Soon Kanka 2, and there are one or two unusual hovels. I overheard the word 'Falang' in conversation when passing one of these places and a dodgy looking fellow tried to sell me an overpriced Beer. He had about 6 Girls sitting outside. It probably was a local 'shoot and go' joint, but the girls all looked like Yabba heads to me, not very attractive, a bit volatile somehow, and I noticed multiple scars on one of their arms. Walking on, I pondered."Who let the Dogs out?"

Carrying on round to the right and close to heading down Soon Kanka 1, another place was noticed with some fit looking young girls outside and a few young local lads there with loud music playing. However, I just wasn't sure about the place and its purpose. Walking past, there were blank looks from both the younger guys and the girls so I didn't want to approach on an incorrect assumption and offend them.

[Member #4414]

Location : Hiso Massage, Ban Phe.

Specifics : Soi Suan Son / Suan Son Khaoyaichoom.

Cost : B300 for 60 Minutes Oil Massage. Extras, discuss.

Time : Afternoon.

'Officially' this place is out of Ban Phe. Walking / Riding / Driving east along the main coast road you pass Nuantip Pier, pass the Municipal Pier, past Tesco Lotus and then under an arch over the road bidding your farewell to Ban Phe. On from here, you begin to approach what is marked on some maps as Suan Son Beach and Suan Son Forest, where there are several Falang orientated places beach side, to eat and drink.

Opposite these bars, there is a road (Photo #1) heading north, called Soi Suan Son (Suan Son Khaoyaichoom on some maps). Situated at the entrance to this road are two shabby signs, which may be related to Hiso Massage or perhaps not at all. One points to 'Thai Massage' up the road, but may relate to an earlier operation that may have existed there. One of the Ban Phe maps online shows several symbols on this road for massage, but I only found one (Hiso Massage) perhaps indicating a 'purge' or maybe others didn't get enough custom after TEFL left town, and closed down (or were 'closed' down)?

Walking a few minutes up the road, a yellow sign (Photo # 6) was noticed on the left, as "Hiso Massage" (with a promisingly erotic sillhouette of a lady on the sign,) listing the opening times as 'Open 10:00 to 24:00'. Casually walked past it and rubberknecked. It didn't have the usual hallmarks of an 'official' massage place, and to me looked suspect. Girls were sitting in a little cafe and the initial awkward response to my enquiry there about massage, led me to believe further that this out of town joint did more than rub some oil over you. Clocked a truly truly beautiful Girl sitting there amongst another 5 others."Oh yes, you'll do nicely" thinking to myself, and told them I'd be back in 30 minutes. Continued walking North just for a browse, and no more Massage places were seen. After Hiso Massage, it increasingly became semi rural where there are signs for land for sale. Came back to Hiso Massagee looking forward to the session and went in for some 'fun'.

Luckily, the Girl I'd clocked got up to go with me. God damn, if my guess was correct this was going to be a fantastic session. Beautiful moon shape face, lovely smile and a cute little ass. Went upstairs with her, admiring the view, and was going to discreetly ask her on the way if she did extras before we entered a room, but we were already there and she opened a door. Well, what came next wasn't envisioned. Rather than a private room, it was an open dorm room with several mattresses laid out like a legitimate looking massage joint, with curtains to be pulled across for Oil Massage, and there were two Thai guys there getting a Thai massage. My mistake at this point, was throwing away my usual standard operating procedure of getting things clarified in advance. I gambled on assumptions. Aspects of the whole place made me confident that this was a FS place masquerading as a legitimate establishment, making me ditch the caution. You live and learn, don't you.

Once the curtains were pulled around my matrress, stripped off totally and put the towel over my important bits and then she came back in and had a smile on her face. Asking me where I was from, in return her name was asked and she said "Myanmar" misunderstanding my question and revealing why her beauty stood out. I got her true name (witheld for this post). Once she said where she was from, it seemed that this 'might' be one of the places mentioned as having 'Beautiful Myanmar Girls' in (but B300 for FS still seemed too good to be true). Well the massage began, and oh dear. It was very very poor and had indications of someone just learning the ropes of massage. However, my guess was this was just the formal pretense for futher action. Eventually the Thai guys finished up and left the room so it was just myself and her in the room now, and more condusive to start probing a bit more about what else she did as extras once turned over and able to talk to her more easily.

Due to little English, it ended up with her with some hesitation signifying HJ with her hand for B500 once probing about extras."Not do Boom Boom" she said, the crushing words. Keeping with it and enquiring why, it was falling on deaf ears and she was less smiley than before due to the approach. Well, talk about getting it totally wrong. Assumptions, the mother of all 'errors'. Or, perhaps this was just a case of bad luck in getting one who didn't do FS?

I asked her age and if memory serves, she said 19 which may have played a part. HJ was still an option, but as cute as she was, my heart was set on FS that day and really the lamest of oil massages made me suspect that the HJ would be similar. Later there were sounds of Thai men talking in the corridor and maybe the ones who had been in the room and left a bit earlier. Now suspicious, I suspected that maybe they'd gone into individual rooms to be 'finished' off with FS, but who knows? It is unknown if this was just bad luck on my visit, or offical policy in place that falang don't get serviced with FS? Whatever the case, information was shared about this place as HJ seemed to be on the menu at least. Other Girls there may do FS in a separate room, if you visit so I chose not to write this place off. Given the 'Myanmar Connection' in this place, it was a real surprise to me that FS wasn't on the menu (at least on my visit, and with the Girl I got, who was a real cutie).

On the way out, an older falang shaped like a hippo was glimpsed woddling into a room with another Girl and the room was seen to be also an open plan room and not a private room either. It indicated that this place is already known by falang, and perhaps that this place is more 'legit' than the impression it gives. Bless her, she was a lovely Girl. If she is learning the ropes of massage then she has a long way to go though, and so incredibly dissapointing that I didn't get to enjoy her little muff.

[Member #4414]

Many times I'd been to Ban Phe on visits to Thailand, but only to get the Ferry over to Koh Samet.

I hadn't even considered looking for action in Ban Phe.

Before I get onto reports of options found there (posts 2, 3 & 4) , below is what sparked off this exploration of Ban Phe.

#1476 by Crocodilexp on 06-05-13 (Other Areas).

In one of the recent Stickman submissions, a guy said:

"In all my travels, my favorite place was Ban Phe near Rayong. Back behind the wharf there are dozens of working girl houses, and they're all full of beautiful Myanmar girls for 300 baht. Never see a farang there, but they let me pay the Thai price.".

Does this place still exist? I'd go check it out (and write a report) if anybody could confirm a recent experience there.

Investigating the source of the report quoted by Crocodilexp, my net searches only found that text as being posted by someone called BilboFarang in June 2013 on Livingthai. Org, claiming to speak fluent Thai (which may prove be a crucial factor in this whole thing).

It was a description that contained problems."Back behind the Wharf" was very ambigous. 50 mtrs behind the Wharf? Or 3km behind the Wharf? Hidden in a narrow alley way? Or way back out on the main road heading west to Bangkok? Working Girl Houses marked in Thai Script? (see note above, about his fluency in Thai) or locally known houses with no markings at all? Did he have initial local assistance to learn of the places and in order to get the local price? None of this was clear, and although he wrote recently, an important thing about the post was 'when' did he enjoy all this in Ban Phe? 3 months ago? 1 year ago? 15 years ago?

Of the places in my reports 2, 3 & 4, perhaps the local Karaoke / Bars on 'Soi Sang Ka Si 6' (Post 4) with ST on the premises fit the description best as being locally orientated, but none of the Girls were Burmese now (or the Mamasan would not admit it, if they were) and the lowest price I could get was B500. Or, maybe the wider number of karaoke bars said to have once existed on Soon Kanka 1 (literally "Behind the Wharf") mentioned in my Post 3 were once the hub of such activity, now decimated?

My guess is that either these 'dozens of working girls houses' are situated in houses invisible to outsiders, or perhaps his visit was quite a number of years ago now.

I only encountered Burmese Girls in Hiso Massage (Post 2 of 4) and only HJ was on offer during my visit it seems, but maybe that was just bad luck that day. To sum it up, action could be found in Ban Phe but it was either 'cheap and cheerfull' local joints, or so called 'VIP' and expensive. Hopefully my reports 2, 3 & 4 will assist fellas who visit Ban Phe.

[Betong]

Hat Yai is war zone. No reason to fuck around there really unless there is great $5 pussy I'm not aware of.

I just saw this and had a good chuckle. You want a war zone, go to Pattaya during Songkran. Hatyai is about as dangerous as lunch in the Oriental Hotel tea room.

[Amjeck]

I'm not a full member, Ambjeck, so it won't be possible.

I'll put up the basics here if you like.

Yes please!

[FunMan13]

Hi NJO,

What promotion is that? From the Myanmar Government? Airlines? Anyway, keep in touch. We may be able to travel some parts together. Love to be your wingman.

[NeverJerkOff]

I have been playing in Bangkok for over 10 years but I have never ventured outside the city, not even to Pattaya. I am planning a 2-3 month "excursion" of Laos and Myanmar which inevitably means crossing into Thailand, maybe also Cambodia. This trip is both cultural-Historical and sensual. So I am reading the Isaan Areas thread and this thread, both going back to 2010. I will go back further when I have time. My trip is January and February of 2014 so I have time. What I want to do ASAP is fix some kind of itinerary so I can purchase the air tickets way in advance to get the best price. I am coming from USA. I have used Air Asia, Tiger Airlines, etc. Many times and know the drill...

Seems like a good plan. You just missed out on a killer Myanmar promotion for your time frame. I will be going for 2400 baht roundtrip February 10th but that flight never gets too expensive. Personally, I would love to catch a flight to Udon Thani and bus it to Vientiane, Laos for some mongering on a budget but am not sure if I am going to be able to make that one. Think a map is your friend though. Big cities best bets and the vets know the down low spots which they may be reluctant to divulge.

[FunMan13]

I have been playing in Bangkok for over 10 years but I have never ventured outside the city, not even to Pattaya. I am planning a 2-3 month "excursion" of Laos and Myanmar which inevitably means crossing into Thailand, maybe also Cambodia. This trip is both cultural-Historical and sensual. So I am reading the Isaan Areas thread and this thread, both going back to 2010. I will go back further when I have time. My trip is January and February of 2014 so I have time. What I want to do ASAP is fix some kind of itinerary so I can purchase the air tickets way in advance to get the best price. I am coming from USA. I have used Air Asia, Tiger Airlines, etc. Many times and know the drill.

What I hope to experience in addition to the big cities is the border towns. I don't speak any of the languages but I am Asian and have never had problems in the past traveling in Thailand and Cambodia. I will keep reading these threads to get the latest intel but if anyone can give me tips, I will be very appreciative. You can also PM me.

Oh, one last thing. Before any of you jump on me, let me say that I DO NOT intend to f* 2 girls a day for 10 days. I don't post much because I am not into describing my sessions with WGs unless it's something odd or outstanding. But I have travelled the world mongering and have posted reports.

Thanks all.

[NeverJerkOff]

Simply it s reflected how adventurous are the mongers now. Most just want bar girls scene. Which is not the thai style.

War zone. That s why hundreds Malaysians and Singaporeans come in town every weekend. For enjoying terror, bomb blasting etc?

Please tell us where you can get 5 USD (around 170 baths) pussy in Thailand.

Didn't say I was scared to go there or you have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning but call a spade a spade. There is a reason there is so much military down there.

I know the 2 teachers who got blown up yesterday are not mocking bomb blastings.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...c36_story.html

$5 pussy? I can get it anywhere on earth. Where can you get it? Try hard drug addicts desperate for cash. If no prevail, I don't know, maybe the jungles of Congo.

[Phordphan]

Been experimenting in local Girlie joints / Watering Holes in Ban Phe, in recent weeks.

Budget (B500 ST for 30 Minutes) FS, but after a honeymoon stage things went downhill.

If anyone shows interest, a report may come with basic details on where it can be had.

Post away. Can't have too much information on the board. I'm always up for learning about new things / places.

[Member #4414]

Send me a PM with details, thanks

I'm not a full member, Ambjeck, so it won't be possible.

I'll put up the basics here if you like.