FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Tiger Genius]

Thank you for the answers.

I think that Arabella or Grimberg can be my B plan if I have problem in Pauschalclub Bochum or if I will be tired, because instead to stay two day in hotel in Bochum, I think to go to partytreff Ambrosia in the first day.

[Breadman]

Don't get you're mini skirt ruffled, post or don't. Don't throw a sissy fit.

[Jymondor]

Can someone tell me if is easy to find girl that make anal sex?

There are girls pictures with their names and services right at the bar. Look for the girls who "Alles machen". This means anal too.

[EastGoing]

I have strongly considered to quit or reduce at maximum my posts, especially in german threads and furthermore in FKKs threads, to avoid possible ridiculous criticism and / or pointless and stupid insults by one or more intolerant old fat ignorant giant douches, to whom I didn't even bother to answer.

So now I make an "exception" for Tiger Genius, who, inspite of being just a regular member, seems active and endowed with good will of contributing usefully to the forum, unlike most of regular FKK threads posters who would do a favour to readers and to themselves by just pming themselves. If Jackson added a "useless pointless posts thread" it would quickly get the busiest of the forum, even if by quite a restricted number of posters.

So, Tiger, I read by mistake your question and remembered to check it for you. There were 2 girls offering it out of some 12 in the place, but they were the most unattractive (to me) , sorry for not remembering the names, but I think you can phone and ask. The Thekefrau on duty on wednesdays, saturdays and sundays speaks english, the other one only german. If you go there anyway there is written by the counter what girls offer, even if I have noticed that not always it's true, but I never complained.

In Grimberg (close enough and easy to reach) and VV I recall more girls offering anal. Not really fanciable girls in Grimberg offering it, while probable best looking for your purpose was VV's Magda, physically quite fuckable and with a good attitude.

Quite a few changes in the clubs, in my opinion at the moment VV offers the best choice of the 3.

Side note for fans: She didn't come back, was supposed to be back some 10 days ago. Lost in space.

Greetings,

EG

[Tiger Genius]

I will be in an hotel near Arabella and I'm interested in this place because I read on the website that every extra are included.

I prefer flat-rate and I'm not interested in AO, but I like to have anal sex and 3 X 110€ with anal is not a bad price.

Can someone tell me if is easy to find girl that make anal sex?

[Admin]

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

[Woofiee]

How about letting the subject rest. We all have opinions, blind spots, ignorance, and exuses (or reasons?). This forum is supposed to be about paid for sex not our life stories. If you like I can tell you about people I know who have died from Government blood transfusions, lung cancer from smoking, cervical cancer from sex, and HIV and so on, but I think my feelings and life are not relevant to a forum with so little tolerance.

Best wishes to all

I had hoped to. Myrrh's personal attack somewhat changed my mind and I wanted a very limited but succinct response to it, but I don't want to be party to this continued conversation. In fact, the only issue I have is why this thread isn't in the AO grouping with the other venues. Surely it's not because it's a FKK or anything like that; AO is the larger grouping. I also don't expect any to respond to this part. As I've been told, more-worthy users are in charge, not me.

I also don't expect this to give anyone one moment's pause in their activities. As you suggested, there is little tolerance for opposing opinions. I only wanted to explain how I came to be strongly on the other side of the fence.

[Optimist]

How about letting the subject rest?. We all have opinions, blind spots, ignorance, and exuses (or reasons?). This forum is supposed to be about paid for sex not our life stories. If you like I can tell you about people I know who have died from Government blood transfusions, lung cancer from smoking, cervical cancer from sex, and HIV and so on, but I think my feelings and life are not relevant to a forum with so little tolerance

Best wishes to all

[Woofiee]

Nice that Myrrh decided to make private mail public, but it doesn't matter. While I was interested, I never went. All that was 3 years ago. So what happened? Am I disingenuous as Myrrh has decided, or have I changed my outlook? (BTW. I'm not Dutch. Apologise to the country now.)

In those days I had just broken up with relationship so I was a pretty angry guy. All that trust, shot to hell. Why shouldn't I use women as they use us? I was open to all possibilities and decided to ask around. Tried Mettman. Public stuff wasn't to my taste. I knew PHG and GT well, but the ***** stole nearly everything and I was fairly skint back then. Partytreffs and such were better value, but really hit or miss.

Then a business trip to Thailand with a coworker (Canadian guy who introduced me to PHG long ago) and it was amazing. Still prefer Thailand to anywhere else. People are great, sex is uncomplicated and easy, everyone wins. Probably going 5:1 for condom use, so not too smart. And so I came back with a really bad case of thrush. Some meds, some time, all gone. Was freaked tho and did the 3 month wait to watch for the inevitable all-clear. My colleague, tho. Not so lucky. He was sick for a week on return (we did drink way too much there) and which soon got worse. Few weeks later he tells me he's got a liver problem (he's always been a hard drinker) and had now tested positive for HIV.

Long story short, we're all watching him die slowly. He's had several problems with infections and toxaplasmosis which messes with his glands, he's really getting frail and the office isn't too comfortable with him there (we know better, but people talk and cheap talk causes stupid fear). He's not the first person I've known who's sick with HIV; there's a friend's sister years back who's now gone. But this time I get to watch it every freaking work day. His family is far away (they don't want anything to do with him anyway) and his workplace is becoming less tolerant now that his pallor is obvious. He's getting more scared and he's on his own. Even I'm not so comfortable. We just go to the pub occasionally, and hardly hang out. If his kidneys weren't shit to begin with, would it have taken him down so fast? No idea. I'm not a doctor. All I know is he's going down, fast.

And so yeah, something's changed in me. Some switch has been flipped and I can't tolerate the "live and let live"-lie that gets passed about easily here, as if wishful denials makes it all A-OK. Why do I still do clubs and partytreffs? My trust in women hasn't returned and the flesh is weak, so I partake but try to do so in the safest way possible. Why do I bother commenting on this kind of stuff? Because personal experience is a hell of a lot more valuable than closing your eyes and hoping for the best, and I also hate misinformation and lies.

I've also moved on, but as Myrrh felt one more personal attack was in order, I felt I needed to respond. Now I'm done.

[Wanking]

No more arguing. And enjoy some cake!

[Myrrh]

I'm quite happy that I don't see his writ anymore. Still, thanks to Myrrh for this summary.

Sir Swing, I think we can now draw a line under this matter now and move on. You appear to already have.

If the Woof responds then I won't respond, because the evidence already speaks for us.

We can now get back to doing what we all enjoy doing, or at least claim on here that we enjoy doing (snigger).

[SwingerLover]

Well, I can't look at the posts of this charakter anymore when I'm logged in, because Jackson put us on each others ignore lists by force, to stop the argueing. Truth be told I never went as way back in his posts when I still could. And to what point? Thanks to the Woofiee-police, we now have a very good comparison of several posts from this member. Talk about two-face. Is Batman around?

I had a similar disturbing experience from reading Woofie reports, but didn't bother to write about it before. I recall that he wrote very favourable about Pauschalclub Bochum. Until someone posted a negative report about a recent visit. Then Woofiee took back what he had written before and somewhat agreed with the other members post. A while later there was a favourable report from him on Bochum again.

I'm quite happy that I don't see his writ anymore. Still, thanks to Myrrh for this summary.

[Myrrh]

Man, you got way too much time. I'd rather spend my time fucking instead of analyzing other board members.

I hear you Bubba. I just thought it was worthwhile making a one-off exception in this case and I think others will sympathise with the reasons.

[Hessen Bub]

Man, you got way too much time. I'd rather spend my time fucking instead of analyzing other board members.

HB

[Myrrh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njpyiz9v2ww

i was going through my private messages with the view to deleting some of them when i came across a pm from woofiee from 1 year ago. i had posted at the time that i was thinking of going to club la luna (the most famous and longest running bareback (ao) clubs of them all) and he wanted me to tell him how it went because he was thinking of driving 3 hours to get there. now my no. 1 rule is never to reveal the contents of pm's no matter what they contain but in woofiee's case you will see why i have made an exception.

hey myrrh,

no worries. i saw the report. my apologies to you! geez. cured me of having to consider the place.

woofie.

sorry woofiee,

i only saw this today so apologies for not replying earlier. i have now done a report on my visit so hopefully it will be helpful.

regards,

myrrh.

hey myrrh.

saw you were going to laluna friday last. how it'd work out? i hear punters going to it, but some cancel, redirect, or don't report back. being laluna isn't around the corner, is it worth driving 3 hours to. woofiee

i thought when i re-read the pm that the name seemed familiar although back then it meant nothing to me. but it got me thinking. was this the same woofiee who had spent many weeks this year stalking the ao related threads goading, baiting and deliberately antagonising esteemed members like sir swingerlover, wanking and dreams for discussing ao on the forum? he gives the clear impression that he is an ardent opponent of bareback / ao, would never contemplate it and viewed those who did it with less than contempt. also he wanted the board to be segregated so that normal members would not encounter those members who liked and promoted ao activity.

if so then why was he asking me about driving 3 hours to a dedicated ao club. i am assuming that after his long drive that he would spend the rest of the day tamely sipping cokes or was the reason for his interest the 'bareback-as-much-as-you-like' all day long ao flat rate event that was happening there that day? now i don't like to character assassinate other members but i thought it was worthwhile looking through some of this 'holier than thou' character's past posts.

well, what did i find? first of all i had to wade through some posts that had been deleted by admin because woofiee several times had broken rules about antagonising other members.

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then through many posts where he mercilessly taunted, ridiculed and insulted other members about their interest in bareback sex. he was so way above any of that kind of stuff, isn't he?

and you would be wrong (we all don't think alike, bub).

ao is off the menu, but i'm also not going to wrap up as soon as i enter the room. everything in its time. seen the results too often in this lifetime already. don't forget, i've been mongering in bangkok and pattaya since the 90s and seen a few mongers cum and go. it's all high-rises and hiv now, as another poster on isg perfectly said, and so that stay's fixed in my mind at all times.

ah, the king of the ao gang makes his appearance. i was wondering when dreams would've brought in the artillery. and look, more personal attacks, more indignation, and a little bit of your personal history that no one really cares to know about. you are a small sample in a very large experiment, and if you don't think that simple size makes difference, then you really don't know what you're talking about.

i'm a bit older now and strangely enough, i actually laugh when i read personal crap like this. if you haven't noticed, i'm not trying to get you or your gang to understand the efficacy of protection. you folks are lost cause and besides it's not my place to tell people what they should do, contrary to what you folks are doing.

you know, the only people here trying to stop anyone from writing this tend to be the ao gang. they've tried to get me banned and my posts removed.

i also said i disapprove of it, and while i can't tell others to do rubber-up, i think it's dangerous to promote unsafe sex here on isg.

i maintain that if the talk of ao bleeds into the fkk forums, as it has in the partytreff subgroup, it will become a problem.

you've missed the point. what about the other 40 threads? how dead are they now that the ao gang practically rule the partytreff section? i'm only speaking for my own here (and the few other mongers i've met and asked this of) but i feel the community has suffered because of the prevalence of the ao talk. you read this section the threads about unsafe sex. hell, we're not stupid. we'll not bother commenting or even come back. i try to occasionally post into the sections that don't have this conversation but the traffic is useless. it's like the definition of partytreff is now ao.

if i get kicked off, no matter. i want to belong to a community who can help decide the direction the forums take. promoting ao sex is unwise and pollutes the environment we all play in. you say it's personal choice. i say there's no such thing as the "peeing" part of the pool. it all mixes together.

but what about other positions that also endanger the community? this all started about whether someone who passed on a disease should be discussed here, and then it spiraled into what do we as a community owe to each other? information? discussion? if this all about "enterainment" then i don't want to belong to this place. google me; i'm no stranger to adult boards, and i've had years of support on this and other boards in holland, the us and thailand. i go with the flow and enjoy the banter, but when people promote stupid things, behaviours what clearly endanger this game we all play, well sorry. i'm going to fight you for it.

it's a fair remark. i don't bother reading this section anymore because the tone is so different now. almost all reports are about ao, and everyone acts as if it's not dangerous. it's more than that. it's idiotic.

then i came across posts from him where it would seem that the same woofiee was actually an ardent lover of bareback and had several posts relating to his enthusiastic pursuance of bareback activity at some of the most infamous, hard-core bareback clubs that germany has to to offer like eva freundlin, ewa's club and club tabulos as well as many visits to thailand where he seemed to have enjoyed that sort of activity there too.

first of all a post where a year ago woofiee had been clicking on links for events in the ao bareback calendar thread which swingerlover spends much of his time putting together. the same swingerlover who was then a few months later heavily criticised by woofiee for promoting ao activity. i am assuming that woofiee was clicking on those links a year ago just to satisfy his curiosity and for no other reason whatsoever?

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then many posts where his secret, or should i say not so secret, affection for ao activity at several hard-core ao clubs is revealed. including trips to thailand where he appears to enjoy bareback activity there as well.

i'm heading out this weekend and i'm thinking of either harem, tabulous or mettman. anyone interested in doing a wingman? friday night i can't get there before 18:30 (coming from amsterdam) but saturday has the whole day. or any other suggestions? having an ao option is good.

and unless theres a tabulous party this weekend, saturday is going to be partytreff mönchengladbach. if anyone from amsterdam or thereabouts wants to join in, i'm already driving down.

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1102662

initially thought perhaps beidseitig meant something like an ao, but okay. 69 works too. .

titty fuck? in a bj bar on soi 6 in pattaya, sure. in a partytreff i want the plunge. .

"club tabulouse: no party during your dates, so you should spend per session like in a normal fkk club"

not sure what you mean by no party, can you elaborate?

tabulous is tempting, although i'm not sure about the bareback thing (rubbers are available, but i love bareback).

ewa's place gets great press here, and i don't want to have to wait until i head back to pattaya, usual playground. but yeah. tabulous or paschal palace seem the best choices.

thinking of a trip next week to one of these:

no limit girlies.

club tabulose

pussy club, wuppertal.

ewa's club (is this mettman?)

any one else interested? i'll probably pick one, but which?

also, i thought tabulous was primarily bareback - is this place or mettman?

while we're at it, perhaps someone can give me a more precise meaning to "tabulose"?i feel like such a noob. cool.

so it is clear. woofiee was involved in zealous pursuit of bareback activity at some of the most notorious bareback clubs in the past and discussed his special interest in this area openly on this forum. a few months later he is acting as though he would never consider bareback and that members who are interested in bareback are beneath contempt, are dangerous and should be segregated on the board in case other members see what they are discussing.

now i have met some disingenuous dutchmen in my time, who can say one thing and mean completely the opposite, but this is the first time i have encountered one who speaks true double dutch.