Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Sammon]

I have said many times that you guys should try to exercise some restraint. You come off as desperate looking for girls so far ahead of a trip, plus you run out of things to talk about. Many of the guys on here have had girls let them check out the messages they are receiving. They receive hundreds of messages. Most are from lying losers who will never travel to the Philippines. Why should the girls believe you and waste their time? Put up a profile two weeks ahead of your arrival, and let the girls know you will send an SMS from a local sim as soon as you arrive. That's all there is to it. Too much complication and too much drama.

I concur. Beter yet log on when you are here and send messges saying you are in town. Ask for their phone numbers or give your phone number. You will be surprised how many wants to meet since they already know you are in town. Another thing is these girls change their phone numbers often and many have dual sims.

Also they may seem interested in you before but have met or fucked somebody else and not interested in you anymore. Hornier girls are easier to meet quickly and fuck.

Meeting, liking and clicking with a girl is open to various factors. But out of many few will be very good.

[Red Kilt]

I think you are confusing Yahoo with Microsoft who moved MSN messenger to Skype.

Yeah Calvin.

My bad. I realised my mistake but hoped nobody would notice (insert red faced emoticon)

[Member #4351]

I'd like to ask the pros on the board how am I doing so far?

I have said many times that you guys should try to exercise some restraint. You come off as desperate looking for girls so far ahead of a trip, plus you run out of things to talk about. Many of the guys on here have had girls let them check out the messages they are receiving. They receive hundreds of messages. Most are from lying losers who will never travel to the Philippines. Why should the girls believe you and waste their time? Put up a profile two weeks ahead of your arrival, and let the girls know you will send an SMS from a local sim as soon as you arrive. That's all there is to it. Too much complication and too much drama.

[Pip Jaeger]

This is part of the text from a 21 year old Pilipina's profile on one of the dating sites; cracked me up. In the info part she also said she had no kids.

I am a friendly person, reliable and a hard worker. I enjoy walking in the park, riding my bike, having fun with my friends, going to picnics, skiing and spending my time with my wonderful grandchildren. I was a witness to their first steps, their first teeth, when they started to say their first words.

To witness everything she's said she witnessed, then I guess she had her kid when she was about 6 and her kid must have done the same, hahaha.

And skiing? Water skiing perhaps, but I think the original meant snow skiing, LOL. Don't they read what they post before they copy and paste or take over a friend's profile?

[CalvinH]

That's because Yahoo has bought Skype and plans to close YM and move all the functions to Skype.

The girls would have seen that message and so joined Skype instead of YM.

So far there has been no further notice about this switch happening.

Anyway BB, Skype is easy and user friendly and can function in exactly the same way as YM

I think you are confusing Yahoo with Microsoft who moved MSN messenger to Skype.

[IM Punter]

It is a fun game and I realy enjoy the datingsiteworld. I also mix in freelancers and normal girls as well. I think you so far are doing ok.

Thanks Skogis, this makes a lot of sense. I got a little carried away by the game and it is fun. Now I'll lay low on DIA for a bit and start again in a couple or three weeks. I get what you are saying about the web can. Also I'll update my profile to be more specific (eliminate those 50yo spinsters writing me).

[Member #4387]

A caveat, that I know its kind of early (my visit is at end of Oct) to be setting up a DIA line up, but I am a novice at this and I can't resist searching for beauties ahead of time for my lineup.

I have been messaging (via DIA) with several girls. Two, one 18 and one 19, in particular look fairly promising on the face of it. They are both studying in college. Chikka it costs them 1. 5 peso to reply to a chikka mssg.

I tried YM ing them both. I got one short reply from the 18yo nothing from the 19yo. They only seem to communicate with me by DIA. Another odd thing is. If I ask two or more questions in the chat box, they usually only answer the first one. I know anything can happen in the next 4 weeks but I am wondering if the above behavior is pretty normal for serious DIA girls. Another general observation is that many don't seem to understand what I have asked or said. I told one girl that I hadn't booked a hotel yet (I lied. I have booked the Oxford unfortunately). She then asked me what the hotel name was. WTF?

I do seem to be getting a fair number of "DIA chattees" with this, but haven't gotten to 2nd base (actually talking on skype / yahoo) or 1st base (on cam) yet.

I'd like to ask the pros on the board how am I doing so far? Should I be maintaining contact with my possibles until the blessed day arrives when I can say I'm there and come on over? Should I cease DIA operations until a week before I arrive?

I am also wondering, whats the best "first contact" scenario with the DIAees. I notice on this board some members even have the girl meet them at the airport or come to the hotel. Is this recommended.

How do I address the fact that if they come to the hotel, they should expect to be naked within 2 seconds of entering the room. And, given my state, another 2 seconds and the first pop is over.

Thanks guys for reading my lenghy blathering (my posts can get windy) , and I know I am asking more questions than actual field reporting, but I'll make sure I document my experiences as they happen.

If I am an expert or not I don't know but I am in fairly known territory when we are dealing with datingsitesgirl in general and phil datingsitesgirl in perticular. I have met and fucked hundreds of them (in general) over the years and now close to 100 plus / minus a in phils and maby I can give you some heads up / new ideas. I still read many forums and everyday I pick up some new angels I haven't thought of so it is very educational in a mongerperspective.

You are dealing with 18 and 19 yrs old girls claiming to be college students. Hm well might be true might not be true. It seems you have problem sometimes making them understand what you write and that simply means they probably don't understand english very well. Me too got surprised beeing a nube in Phils and I arrived with the impression that atleast here (oposite to Thai) language barriers where non existent. WRONG. What we can run into in these datingsites sometimes are poor uneducated girls from the province barly finishing elamentary school and they don't know english very well. Dealing with such young girls seems to be a walk through the candystore and me too made initial contacts with a 18 year old stunning looking girl on my first trip into Manila. What a disaster it was. This girls are so shy towards me so she barly don't dear to say hello or look me in the eyes. She did not have any social experience at all except from heavily use of datingsites. Her english was crappy and obviously she was poor like hell (so I felt realy sorry for her). Well she showed up and we fucked but it was pretty much like fucking a corpse. She did not starfishing or anything. She simply did not know how to fuck. I hope your young talent are more socialy / sexually trained. So my advice would be not to deal with such young girls. Ofcourse you can get an idea if you webcam them and get to speak with them.

My approach is very direct and my profiles leaves nothing out to their imagination. When they read my profile they know I want to sex them and nothing more. My profile would sometimes look like this: I want to meet MANILA / MAKATI based women (no LB / Shemales) for adultfun. As I know many girls want read the profile very well I keep it simple. I say when I will be in town and I am not interested in any kind of relationship. And very important I state there will be no sending of money. I fire up my profiles 2 weeks before I arrive and from my experience I have plenty of time to arrange a large fleet of girls ready to meet me. The problem by starting to early (I did so myself in the beginning) is that it is very timeconsuming to nurse the contacts and they need to be nursed. Remember these girls have loads of punters msg them everyday so you have to make them interested in you. On my behalf I early in the communication do webcamsession so I can see them and control if they know any english at all. If looks and languageskills are missing then I cut them off. If she's a stunner with no english ability it is still doable (as I am not going to talk a lot to them anyway).

I guess the reason they don't reply your text is it cost them money. 1.5piso is nothing but for poor people I guess it is something. I find that to be the reason you don't get any answers. Another reason could ofcourse be they have to many punters hitting them and they control their comu better using DIA (free).

I am to blame having girls met me at the airport. My recent trip I was met by a datingsitegirl and a few trips ago I was met by 2 girls (threesomeplay). It is convenient but others may argue that one but to me it has worked out quite nicely. This is girls with own cars.

I think you should get the comu from DIA and on to Skype / YM and / or possible webcam as soon as possible so you don't waste your valuable time on scammers or guys at a internetcafe.

The reason the girls only ask simple questions (and not answering your many questions in the same order as you ask them) I would think is due to either they are stupid as a piece of bread or they have to many contacts to nurse (once again many of these girls chat to hundreds of people). I think the latter is more likely.

But from my point of view knowing what I know now. Skip the youngest girls or atleast do some research if they are in the game / have any experience dealing with foreigners face to face. Do webcamsessions quickly so you don't waste your time. Make it clear what you want. Mostly I make them come to my hotel as I don't like travel in the caothic Manila (you sometimes have to meet them in lobby so you can pay for taxi or atleast promise you cover their travelexpenses). Don't mention money but as a general rule atleast I will compensate them for sex as to feel good about myself and many girls in phils need money.

It is a fun game and I realy enjoy the datingsiteworld. I also mix in freelancers and normal girls as well. I think you so far are doing ok.

[IM Punter]

Since I can't do a real field report until I actually get reach Phil soil, I'll have to write up my ongoing experiences with DIA.

A caveat, that I know its kind of early (my visit is at end of Oct) to be setting up a DIA line up, but I am a novice at this and I can't resist searching for beauties ahead of time for my lineup.

I have been messaging (via DIA) with several girls. Two, one 18 and one 19, in particular look fairly promising on the face of it. Both profess to want to spend time with me and travel with me when I get there. They have given me their phone numbers and Yahoo I'm. I suspect they are using a internet cafe or something because they are only on DIA for a short time every 12 to 24 hours. They haven't really asked me any questions. I asked one if she would mind that I was 50 ish, and the reply was that age doesn't matter when I get there. They are both studying in college.

I tried Chikka texting to one, but didn't get a reply. I am told it by Chikka it costs them 1. 5 peso to reply to a chikka mssg, but they might think it costs more because they know I am in the US.

I tried YM ing them both. I got one short reply from the 18yo nothing from the 19yo. They only seem to communicate with me by DIA. Another odd thing is. If I ask two or more questions in the chat box, they usually only answer the first one.

I know anything can happen in the next 4 weeks but I am wondering if the above behavior is pretty normal for serious DIA girls.

As detailed in another post, I have had a few scams offered me. Yesterday I got a message from a girl whose profile said she was 20 and her name was blah blah, however in her message she said she was 24 and her name was foo foo. WTF?

Another general observation is that many don't seem to understand what I have asked or said. I told one girl that I hadn't booked a hotel yet (I lied. I have booked the Oxford unfortunately). She then asked me what the hotel name was. WTF?

My approach so far is to message prospective girls with a "Hi, xxxx. Your picture / eyes / hair / etc. Are / is awesome / beautiful / pretty. I am coming to Manila at the end of October and I am looking for someone to spend some time with me. I am a respectable (can I lie here?) , respectful (the truth) , generous (qualified) man.

I do seem to be getting a fair number of "DIA chattees" with this, but haven't gotten to 2nd base (actually talking on skype / yahoo) or 1st base (on cam) yet.

I'd like to ask the pros on the board how am I doing so far? Should I be maintaining contact with my possibles until the blessed day arrives when I can say I'm there and come on over? Should I cease DIA operations until a week before I arrive?

I am also wondering, whats the best "first contact" scenario with the DIAees. I notice on this board some members even have the girl meet them at the airport or come to the hotel. Is this recommended.

How do I address the fact that if they come to the hotel, they should expect to be naked within 2 seconds of entering the room. And, given my state, another 2 seconds and the first pop is over.

Thanks guys for reading my lenghy blathering (my posts can get windy) , and I know I am asking more questions than actual field reporting, but I'll make sure I document my experiences as they happen.

[IM Punter]

Oxford Suite is in need of TLC IMHO.

Yikes. I booked it with the non-refundable rate. I'll bring my cockroach swatter.

[IM Punter]

OK, now I know I am getting closer in spirit to the Philippines. One of my DIA chat mates whom I have been trading messages with, tells me that she needs a new cell phone so I can reach her when I get there. Of course I sent the money NOT. I told her I couldn't do it and I haven't heard from her since.

I look at this process as a giant filter. Start with 100 girls on the list. Drop a few because they turn out to be LB. Drop some more because they don't like "Perberts", drop some because on first glance they looked good but I read the fine print and noticed the 150lb weight, drop some because they invent some story for money in advance. Drop a few more because after chatting for a while, they then ask for money for sick aunts / mothers / kids etc.

At the end of it, I hope to end up with a few diamonds or gold nuggets. Time will tell, and I'll report my findings.

[Wicked Roger]

Another question about DIA girls. I am chatting with a few 18/19 yo girls. I feel a bit perverted but it will pass. I have previously done the walk of shame with girls in their mid 20s, but am I likely to run into problems with really young looking 18. 20 yo's. I definitely will be doing an I'd check for age before meeting in my room. Ill likely be staying at Oxford suites or city garden makati.

Perverted is a great felling LOL (well it is for me). The walk of shame in the Philippines is never that IMHO, is normal. Just sit in the lobby of any hotel for an hour one evening and watch the passing traffic. Sometimes the same girl will return with a different guest.

As for I'd yes a good idea if unsure. Oxford Suite is in need of TLC IMHO. See earlier reviews. If prices are good think about St Giles of City Garden.

Best idea os to meet them in the lobby and pay their taxi fare. Nice touch and many cuties appreciate that.

[IM Punter]

Another question about DIA girls. I am chatting with a few 18/19 yo girls. I feel a bit perverted but it will pass. I have previously done the walk of shame with girls in their mid 20s, but am I likely to run into problems with really young looking 18. 20 yo's. I definitely will be doing an I'd check for age before meeting in my room. Ill likely be staying at Oxford suites or city garden makati.

[IM Punter]

Ok so I have a few irons in the fire over on DIA, a couple of girls clearly specified money was important. One is 19 and her pic is pretty good so I might make her my first pop of the trip. I did run into my first out and out scam from a 25 year old girl I was chatting. Poor girl reports her family is in Bohol and she is stuck in Manila as a nanny and is crying every night to go home. She said her air fare is 5000 p (which I promptly refuted after I looked up Cebu pacific. Anyway the poor dear promised if I sent her the $ for air fare, she would make it up for me in Manila when I arrive. Of course I promptly ran down to western union and sent the money. NOT!

I am wondering what kind of scams other girls might try. For example. If a girl agrees to meet me at the mall and later we agree she comes to my hotel do they do the "angry boyfriend" knocking on the door trick once she's in the hotel (and called bf from her cell while freshening up in the C / R.

[Hutsori]

i'm convinced distance is not the problem, because connections to and from korea, taiwan, and china seem to work okay. others' observations?

in and of itself distance is rarely the problem for terrestrial transmission. once on the fiber backbone data travels at the speed of light. typically the problem will be due to the last mile (or so) at each end when the data is on copper wire; problems may be due to the gauge, the age, and the care / condition of it. i'm sure you've seen all the bundles of wires dangling from utility poles in metro manila except bgc and makati. if your skype partner lives in an older building that has old copper that's been frequently spliced in the past this will degrade the transmission. if the wire's jacketing has become brittle and allows in moisture this will cause problems. if your partner is in an area (urban or rural) with poor comm infrastructure this will be a cause. and of course network over utilisation, often experienced in the evening, will result in latency.

i should mention that most computer owners fail to properly care for their computers. anti virus software definitions aren't updated. people download malicious code that runs in the background and consumes cpu cycles. the inside of pcs aren't cleaned, resulting in a nice pile of dust and dirt causing over heating.

[Red Kilt]

What are other people's experiences in skyping between the Phils and other, more technologically-equipped countries? Mine have not been very good, regardless whether I'm in the states trying to skype with others in the Phils or in the Phils trying to skype back to the states. Attempting to participate in meetings back in the states, I have on some occasions given up and called in by phone and had my stateside partners tune me in via speaker phone. Cameras freeze up, odd static background noises cut into the sound, and sometimes the connection just totally quits. I have surmised that the internet service on the Philippine end is just too unreliable to sustain the fairly wide bandwith required for streaming video. I'm convinced distance is not the problem, because connections to and from Korea, Taiwan, and China seem to work okay. Others' observations?

I regularly Skype with my kids and my brothers in Australia on Skype with live streaming and have few worries.

On occasion, (as you said in your post SK) it does freeze or flicker but mostly (I mean 90% of the time) it is OK.

I have my own modem (and wi-fi unit) in my condo (via PLDT) so that might make a difference.

If you are trying to connect with a person in an internet cafe in the Phils it might be different. Same if you are using any hotel wi-fi system.

I use my system to watch my Australian football games live streaming and the picture is extremely clear and without any glitches.