Makati

[Blu8096]

Nightclub question?

I of course have been to Havana and the small hangouts at Greenbelt. I have also been to the nightclub across the street- It starts with a P but can't remember the name.

Are there some good nightclubs in Makati I should check out?

[Arepas]

So I was originally going to stay at the Shangrila but now I am staying at the Mandarin Oriental. Is this close to Burgos street?

Also, which bars has the hottest girls in Burgos street (I don't care about price).

[LuvAsianTang]

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.

They are all catholic thats why you get to bareback them if you are so inclined. The pope says its ok. Personally I use protection usually because of the rampant clamydia and gonherea in the phils. I'm not real concerned about hiv as it is very hard to get from regular sex unless you have a broken membrane on your dick.

LuvAsianTang.

[Ken Shamrod]

Hey Ken, yes, been there, done that too. I can share my own experience.

In my early visits, years ago, we would probably spend P2, 000-4, 000 per bar. My friends and I would hit 3 or 4 bars, spend maybe P10-15, 000 on the evening. Coming from abroad and earning well spending $2-300 for a wild time seemed a bargain. $500 is certainly possible. But no way you could have this much fun at home, at any price.

I have since smartened up, learned the game but, more importantly, what I really enjoy in these bars. My experience is that the big determinant of the total damage is the number of drinks you buy, and their cost, not so much the tips. The tips are pretty constant. The best way to keep the costs down then is to buy drinks only for one girl, pace it reasonably and do it during happy hour.

These things can drive the costs up:

1) Allowing other girls to join. They will all come and stay if they think you are a willing payer. The girls make most of their money from selling drinks, so of course they have incentive. I look at guys who are surrounded by 5 girls, each with p300 drinks, and wonder what they are thinking. Watch out for the girls looking for 'lucky drink' or 'first drink of the day'.

2) Allowing your girl to order drinks too quickly. One should last at least 15 minutes.

3) Allowing mama to get into the mix. She gives you a free one, you buy her girls, and her, another round. Who gets the deal here? Even ignoring the low actually costs to her, yours is the cheap one. In exchange you are buying a round of expensive drinks. And what is the point of buying her a drink? Luck? Good manners? It is her place, good manners dictates that she pick up the tab, not trick you into spending that much more. Don't fall for this.

4) Going to VIP or 'upstairs' often involves a minimum number of drinks. This is likely to cost you P4-5, 000, the same as taking the girl out. Most likely it will be the same experience as in the main bar, but a bit more privacy...

I will definitely use this info. Great job. I just need to stay strong and say no to the other girls and stick to the game plan. Thank you for the in depth report.

[Brown Rail]

Absolutely, but one time I had this friendly, talkative taxi driver for a short ride from the New World to Burgos Street (Rogues Bar). For sure, he was trying to drum up some business for the night and possibly for some future hire. So knowing where I was going, he asked if I had ever been to La La Land. He said it was a hot club. I told him no, I had never been there, but I had been to AF1. He told me La La Land was better and less expensive than AF! I listened to what he had to say. The place sounded ok, but I was definitely not going to change my plans based on a Manila taxi guy's suggestion. He dropped me off at Rogues and gave me his card. I gave him a small tip and never saw him again. Looking back, I think he was an OK sort of chap. I guess because of the name, La La Land, I remembered the club in the back of my mind.

About 6 months later, I was back in Manila and a fellow punter told me about this bar with hi quality girls on Roxas Blvd north of Airport Road called La La Land and it all came back to me. So I went there and it was good. I liked the ambiance, the girls, and I ended up barfining a sexy spinner. Moral of the story: sometimes taxi drivers know something and are not all full of crap. It is their town after all. But I still would never change my bar plans based on an off the cuff tip from a taxi driver, especially one I do not know. This is Manila and "we're not in Kansas anymore".

I think I wrote about this a few years ago. My experience is that if a taxi driver suggests somewhere, he will be getting a commission. That is not to say that his suggestion won't be good, it may or may not be. But is recommendation is driven by his kickback, not your well being.

Further, I had the experience of going back to the same Roxas Blvd bar twice: once I took a taxi and once I went with Pinoy friends. The first time, with the taxi, as I was leaving I found the driver still waiting for me at the door. He knew where his bread was buttered. He then took me to a few other bars. For me it all seemed ok. Until.

The second time with my local friends, about six months later, no cover and the costs seemed about a third. When I asked my friends they explained that the place has a higher tariff when the taxi brings you as the bar pays him. It may also be higher for foreigners.

I find that if I take a taxi to one of these places there may be a cover, but if I get out a bit away from the bar, then wait for the taxi to dive away, there seldom is.

[Brown Rail]

I'm going back to Makati this month. I haven't been back in a few years. I remember going to tickles and spending a lot of money$500usd. My friends and I had a blast with 4 hot girls. They were letting us suck on there tits and grab there asses. I remember the mama would buy us drinks and then we would buy her drinks. It was getting out of hand. I'm usually pretty frugal and watch out for rip offs but I have to admit it was a lot of fun getting wasted with the girls and the mama. She had a hot girl with big tits for me to take home. I guess my point is how much do you tip the girls that sit with you for an hour while you fondle them? I saw an earlier post that said 50 pesos? I just wouldn't feel right paying them so little. What would you guys suggest that is fair? How much is it party with four girls at the bar for about an hour? Drinking shots and grabbing ass. For some reason I thought this was the funniest part of going out. I just don't want to ever get ripped off like that. I get there technique, bring some really hot girls, get your the I'll try and keep a mental calculator going in the back of my head and refuse any extra women.

Hey Ken, yes, been there, done that too. I can share my own experience.

In my early visits, years ago, we would probably spend P2,000-4,000 per bar. My friends and I would hit 3 or 4 bars, spend maybe P10-15,000 on the evening. Coming from abroad and earning well spending $2-300 for a wild time seemed a bargain. $500 is certainly possible. But no way you could have this much fun at home, at any price.

I have since smartened up, learned the game but, more importantly, what I really enjoy in these bars. My experience is that the big determinant of the total damage is the number of drinks you buy, and their cost, not so much the tips. The tips are pretty constant. The best way to keep the costs down then is to buy drinks only for one girl, pace it reasonably and do it during happy hour.

These things can drive the costs up:

1) Allowing other girls to join. They will all come and stay if they think you are a willing payer. The girls make most of their money from selling drinks, so of course they have incentive. I look at guys who are surrounded by 5 girls, each with p300 drinks, and wonder what they are thinking. Watch out for the girls looking for 'lucky drink' or 'first drink of the day'.

2) Allowing your girl to order drinks too quickly. One should last at least 15 minutes.

3) Allowing mama to get into the mix. She gives you a free one, you buy her girls, and her, another round. Who gets the deal here? Even ignoring the low actually costs to her, yours is the cheap one. In exchange you are buying a round of expensive drinks. And what is the point of buying her a drink? Luck? Good manners? It is her place, good manners dictates that she pick up the tab, not trick you into spending that much more. Don't fall for this.

4) Going to VIP or 'upstairs' often involves a minimum number of drinks. This is likely to cost you P4-5, 000, the same as taking the girl out. Most likely it will be the same experience as in the main bar, but a bit more privacy. Still, the waitress will interrupt you every 5 minutes, so might as well be in the bar.

5) Going with groups of friends who don't know the game. They will be suckers for all the scams and then you will split the bill at the end. Be sure to inform them about the scams and agree to play by our rules.

Things that keep the costs down:

1) Happy hour. Drinks, yours and hers, are half price. Be careful that the happy hour light outside is lit. Some of the bars have different times. Even the doorman lie. Recently, at about 330pm, I asked a doorman if it was happy hour and he assured me it was. Then when the bill came, it was not. I complained that the doorman had assured me that it was. The waitress answered, as if he was not their responsibility, he is new. But happy hour began at 4, so I just declined to buy any drinks. Very quickly the agreed that all drinks would be happy hour price. Anyway, they have you sign for each round of drinks, so you see the cost before it get out of hand. Not also that bar fines are also halved during happy hour. And there are nearby short-time rooms.

2) Only buy drinks for 'your girl'. For the massage girl, the cover girl, her friends, just slip them a tip. Tell them pang merienda. P50 or P100 will make them happy. You can ask them to go or to continue to massage, cover, let you play with their breasts. But pressure for drinks will stop.

For 'your girl', be friendly, charming, complementary, and a bit generous. For the bar management, you will need to keep her drinks flowing. Maybe 2-5 drinks should do the job; at happy hour P350-900. One girl who I have become friendly with only lets me buy her one drink, to satisfy the bar.

You will be able to cuddle, kiss, play with her breasts and probably pussy – make sure your hands are clean. She may do lap dance. In many bars she will open your pants and play with your dick. Sometimes inside your pants if they are lose, sometimes she will take it out. There is something cool about standing at the bar joking with the girl while she gently strokes your hard on. I think it is how nature intended. And it is just dark enough that the others around you are not quite sure. Sometimes the other girls will come over and ask if they can touch 'yours'. You can let them satisfy their curiosity, and even give them a feel in exchange, but if you let them stay you got to pay. If you are at the bar or standing at a table, the girls will try to get you to go to a darker table. It is ok. Just keep it to your girl, not letting a swarm join. Warn her if you will cum and she will use a tissue to catch it.

Some girls are really good at stoking. They will keep you on the edge for a long time, and buying them drinks all the while. And, hey, it is worth it. Others are awkward and just don't have the coordination or change to 'business mode'. If it is not feeling good for you, just thank her and put your dick back.

You might even get a blow job in the bar. Usually I am a bit paranoid about an uncovered BJ from these girls. But they do get regular checkups – for what they are worth. And sometimes the little head, in the presence of alcohol, gets the better of me. It is a funny feeling to be cuming in a girls mouth in a crowded bar and with all these people around. An adventure!

A great side benefit of happy hour girls is that they get off at 11pm. Assuming you follow the plan, they will give you their number and ask if you can meet when they are off. The rest is up to you. So that girl that would have cost you P3, 500-4000 plus P1,000-1,500 tip, is now yours for a tip of P1,500-2,000.

I usually tip my girl P300 for just playing maybe half hour to hour. If I cum, P500. The other day my 'friend' gave me an amazing BJ, which I had not allowed before. She felt amazing. I gave her P1, 000. They always seem happy at these levels, and come back.

Be sure to tip the waitress. P20-50 will make her happy.

[Ken Shamrod]

Sorry to keep asking questions. When I was there last I remember there was a nice massage parlor with a fishbowl up the hill and off a couple streets from P burgos. I rtff and I'm pretty sure someone said all fishbowls are gone? Is that true? Was there a new law that past? Looks like I might be spending more time in Angeles.

[Ken Shamrod]

I'm going back to Makati this month. I haven't been back in a few years. I remember going to tickles and spending a lot of money$500usd. My friends and I had a blast with 4 hot girls. They were letting us suck on there tits and grab there asses. I remember the mama would buy us drinks and then we would buy her drinks. It was getting out of hand. I'm usually pretty frugal and watch out for rip offs but I have to admit it was a lot of fun getting wasted with the girls and the mama. She had a hot girl with big tits for me to take home. I guess my point is how much do you tip the girls that sit with you for an hour while you fondle them? I saw an earlier post that said 50 pesos? I just wouldn't feel right paying them so little. What would you guys suggest that is fair? How much is it party with four girls at the bar for about an hour? Drinking shots and grabbing ass. For some reason I thought this was the funniest part of going out. I just don't want to ever get ripped off like that. I get there technique, bring some really hot girls, get your the I'll try and keep a mental calculator going in the back of my head and refuse any extra women.

[Member #4698]

Personally I would never rely on a taxi driver to suggest where I should go. I would rather tell him where I wish to go.

Absolutely, but one time I had this friendly, talkative taxi driver for a short ride from the New World to Burgos Street (Rogues Bar). For sure, he was trying to drum up some business for the night and possibly for some future hire. So knowing where I was going, he asked if I had ever been to La La Land. He said it was a hot club. I told him no, I had never been there, but I had been to AF1. He told me La La Land was better and less expensive than AF! I listened to what he had to say. The place sounded ok, but I was definitely not going to change my plans based on a Manila taxi guy's suggestion. He dropped me off at Rogues and gave me his card. I gave him a small tip and never saw him again. Looking back, I think he was an OK sort of chap. I guess because of the name, La La Land, I remembered the club in the back of my mind.

About 6 months later, I was back in Manila and a fellow punter told me about this bar with hi quality girls on Roxas Blvd north of Airport Road called La La Land and it all came back to me. So I went there and it was good. I liked the ambiance, the girls, and I ended up barfining a sexy spinner. Moral of the story: sometimes taxi drivers know something and are not all full of crap. It is their town after all. But I still would never change my bar plans based on an off the cuff tip from a taxi driver, especially one I do not know. This is Manila and "we're not in Kansas anymore".

[Red Kilt]

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.

OK just go ahead then and ask every taxi driver, but it is a risky way to go when you don't know where they are taking you.

Personally I would never rely on a taxi driver to suggest where I should go. I would rather tell him where I wish to go.

[IM Punter]

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes.

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.

[Econo Tech]

Of course they are generous because they receive a kickback from whichever place they take you. Watch them come in either with you or just behind you so they can receive their commission.

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes. They will either grunt "don't know" or they will not know from first-hand experience and so will take you anywhere they can get a commission.

And commissions, as some of my smart friends found out. Can range from 7,000 peso (for a 2000 peso barfine if you went direct) and another case. Walked in, saw nothing interesting, walked out after paying 3,900 cover charge (where no cover applies in reality.) and another, who paid 15,000 peso for a dorm girl, (who would have been given not more than 1000 peso).

[Red Kilt]

You can ask a taxicab driver to which hangout is the best, actually Filipino cab drivers almost all of them are generous.

Of course they are generous because they receive a kickback from whichever place they take you. Watch them come in either with you or just behind you so they can receive their commission.

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes. They will either grunt "don't know" or they will not know from first-hand experience and so will take you anywhere they can get a commission.

[Ilasan2]

In Makati first time and only for this week.

I am an guy of Indian origin.

Any tips from fellow mongerers? Independents?

I am not that good at handling the "Crowd" in Burgos street.

Shane

You can ask a taxicab driver to which hangout is the best, actually Filipino cab drivers almost all of them are generous.

[WestCoast1]

I thought this was amusing and I'm sure the landscape is familiar to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI9GwtikgI4

CaliPro: Paying attention? Learn a lesson? Teach a lesson?