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[Peter]

@Oz

Are you visiting every single country in Europe? At least you are posting everywhere! Have you f**ked all the girls in Australia already? Pretty impressive for 29!

Don't ask this question again. there is no clear answer to which one is the best if you are in Frankfurt. F35, Atlantis, Oase, and Fantasyland are all within 45 Minutes of Downtown by Car. If you don't have access to a car it is a different story. I would advise renting one, you can get pretty good deals in case you can't claim it for the company.

For Sheer volume of great girls...Atlantis, hands down. I get a somewhat unpersonal feeling from this place in the meantime (sort of RLD feeling, but better service) (By the way somewhere you said that you were told to stay away from the RLD in Frankfurt, but you plan on heading to the one in Amsterdam. The RLD in Frankfurt is certainly better than the one in A'dam. The Women in Frankfurt offer a fair service, no fake BJ's and such. This is what you get in Hamburg. The service and selection in Frankfurt around the trein station is at least as good as in A'dam and no drunken brits and American College kids.)

For Tonnes of girls and a great outdoor area, as well as a pretty good XXX theatre (where you can enjoy live company)...Oasis

I have no experience in F35, but it is right in town.

My favourite for atmosphere is Fantasyland in Gorgeshausen. They only have 15-20 girls even at peak times, but they also rarely have 50-80 men like Oase or Atlantis. If you go to Fantasyland then you get a great buffet.

For me it is a question of what time of day and what day of the week you have time and what you are looking for.

If you want to go to the biggest and most impressive, then head to Atlantis on a weekend evening. I went once midweek afternoon and the choice of women was horrible.

If you only have a short amount of time go to F35, because it is only 10 minutes from downtown.

If you want a lot of chicks on a sunny day and want to enjoy the weather too, then Oase.

If you can leave frankfurt by 1PM and want to have a wellness day with some pretty hot chicks and a little bit of sex in between head to Fantasyland.

Check out Kaleu's site for more detailed info as to where thes clubs are exactly. Use Map24 or Mapblast for directions that have gotten me to almost all of the clubs (Oase is the most difficult)

[OzGuy]

Hi,

I will be in Frankfurt in October, and I will be staying near from the main (central) train station .....

Which is the closest FKK ?

and which is the best ?

also the best time to go ??

Thanks .....

OzGuy.

[CBGBConnisur]

Anyway I think Germany's FKK scene is an excellent bargain, especially in comparison to Amsterdam, most FKK women I find to be actually more attractive than the women in Amsterdam, and they provide much better service. The icing on the cake is the fact that you don't have a bunch of drunk British hooligans in Germany like you do in Amsterdam. Those British act like they have never seen a beautiful woman before and visiting Britain I couldn't blame them. The UK must have the fattest women on the planet.

[Peter]

@CBGB

30€ entrance
80€ First Session
65€ each session after that

This price structure has led to a boycott on many of the german forums.

The session is just as long and the same standard as before (BBBJ and French Kissing is standard here). They let the girls determine the pricing structure, and these girls aren't exactly marketing majors. They think if they charge more they earn more. they are just pricing themselves out of the market.

[CBGBConnisur]

Has anyone been to Babylon lately? I heard the price structure is different. Now it supposed to be 30 Euros for entrance and 80 Euros for a session. It used to be 100DM for a session which was 50 Euros. Do you get a longer a session with this new 80 Euro fee? Are all the 'extras' include? Anyone who could answer this I would appreciate it.

[brownie]

wizard and kaleu

thanks for the advice. i will probably visit atlantis in the upcoming weeks since it seems to have gotten better reviews lately.

brownie

[CBGBConnisur]

Wizard and Kaleu, I got a question for you, some jerk on another board said he went to both Atlantis and Oase near Frankfurt and said the quality of the women at the clubs were poor. He said that the women were "scary" and had indications that they were heavy drug users with needle marks. In addition he said that out of the 60 or so women in Atlantis, there was only one he would rank a 7 and that Oase had no attractive girls. The posting was quite troubling to read. I visited both places almost a year ago, and thought they were extremely good quality. Now I know that the quality of the clubs fluctuate all the time, but its hard to believe that these clubs would go completely downhill in such a short time. Have either of you guys been to either club lately? Are there still plenty of hot women at the clubs? Is this guy who said that the clubs had ugly and unattractive women full of shit?

[Wizard]

I would like to add that F35 FKK club is also in Frankfurt and while it still isnt in the same league as Atlantis and Oase (as to club size and quantity of girls) if you are staying in or around Frankfurt and you have the time it might be worth your while to visit this club too .
Wizard

[Kaleu]

Originally posted by brownie
...Atlantis, Oase, or Dolce Vita...
After reading the boards, these 3 seem to be the top choices in the area, right?

Atlantis and Oase are near Frankfurt, Dolce Vita is in Düsseldorf, that's about 230 km north-northwest of Frankfurt!!!
Dolce Vita can absolutely not be compared with Atlantis or Oase, that would be comparing Basketball College League and NBA.
In the area around Düsseldorf/Cologne there are at least 3 clubs where the service of the girls is usually better. Namely Babylon, Planet Happy Garden and Bernd's Saunaclub in Lichtenberg.

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kaleu

[brownie]

Of Atlantis, Oase, or Dolce Vita which is the closest and easiest to get to from Frankfurt Main Hbf using public transportation?

After reading the boards, these 3 seem to be the top choices in the area, right?

I appreciate the help,
Brownie

[CBGBConnisur]

Windstar, we must live in parallel dimensions or something, I live in New York City, and there is nothing like a German FKK in the New York metropolitan area. If there is please tell me where I can find it because I really need to get laid badly. I think i might have and idea of the type of club in New York you are talking about, its Acquiesce, right?? That place is a shithole, and its a really big shithole compared to an German FKK. Windstar, imagine this, try to picture a club where the women were attractive at worst and Supermodel Gorgeous at best, in fact, imagine a club where half the women were Supermodel Playboy quality, there are literally hundreds of clubs like this in Germany. That's what an FKK club is like. It is filled with gorgeous NUDE women who are only there for one thing, to please you. And on top of it, the cost is really affordable, for two reasons, the FKK business is highly competitive, the customers not the women and the brothels run the market(this is a complete turnaround from America where the *****s charge whatever they feel like charging), second, there are literally millions of beautiful women in Europe that work in the adult industry, third, the reason so many work in this industry is that sex is a natural thing in Europe, and there is nothing to be ashamed of in having sex for pleasure. There is no cynical attitude with the FKK, most women are young college aged students just trying to make ends meet. There are also some albeit older(late 20's, early 30's) ladies who work professionally but they do not feel oppressed in any way, shape, or form. The quality of German FKK women is a world above the chicks with dicks and neurotics of New York City, there is 0 cynicism with most FKK women, they really enjoy what they do and feel nothing wrong with it. As for the Eastern European women who work at the clubs, I don't know, most do it cause its quick money. Like I mentioned before, the attitude towards sex and prostitution in Europe is much more relaxed than it is in the prudish Bible loving USA. Sex is a natural thing in this part of the world not something dirty, and therefore the women will fulfill many of your dirtiest and wildest fantasies. In other words be prepared to be AMAZED. By the way women of FKK quality would charge you through the nose to fuck them in New York or elsewhere in the States, like ten times as much money or even more, that is, if your lucky enough to find someone of that quality in NYC, personally I have not been able to find that FKK quality woman in New York since I returned from Germany last year. There was one or two who came close while I was taking a walk from work this afternoon but they weren't up to par.

[Wizard]

WindStar from what you wrote and seem to be looking for ie private girls nypho's and GFE plus all you can eat action only paying for entry .the partytreff scene sounds like its what you are looking for .As long as you dont mind the more public sex that goes along with these clubs .
Read my FAQ in the Partytreff section to find out if it suits you or not .
Some clubs have a bit more privacy than others in the form of very dark rooms or some have maybe one room with a door with a lock .
You will often find couples come to these clubs because the husband cannnot satisfy his horny wifes needs and here she can get all she wants and more .
Also I have often found single women who go there just to get their brains F*cked out at these clubs.
Mind you the looks in these clubs varies from 2-10 and age 18-70+ and you will have to use your charm to make your self popular with the ladies.
The best stratergy is to make freinds and chat up the hubby of any woman who steals your fancy and if you hit it off you will eventually asked 'Do you want to F*ck my wife"? and the rest is up to you .

[Kaleu]

Originally posted by WindStar
Part of the reason I am asking is that I have experienced similar arrangements in New York, Florida and Rio, excepting that in those locations there is no "per girl" price. You simply pay the entrance fee and have all the sex you want (or can stand, as the case may be).

brighter Europe in Germany. Have you found that they have become dishearteningly cynical? Is that the kind of sex one is to expect? Or is it that the "unhurried" environment make you feel that can have more?

The FKKs in Germany can be compared with the "Thermas" in Rio, which have more or less the same concept. You pay per girl, you go to a room with the girl, you walk around with a towel around your hipps or wearing a bath-robe.

What you mention can be compared with the German Partytreffs. You pay once and eat it all BUT the difference is, that this is more the group sex stuff, you'll most likely have no privacy, there are always other couples around you, but that's the area, where Wiz has more expertise.

Regarding the girls: I found over the past 5 or 6 years spending in FKKs, that there is a wide variety of girls around in these clubs. You'll have always to take into account, that these girls work there to earn money and you are only buying an illusion.

Bad illusion:
You'll find girls who just work there and do their job, not more, not less.
You'll find the ripp-off girls, which try to overcharge you, ask for champagne...
-> disappointed customer

Good illusion
You'll find the sweet, little girl-friend-sex type of women
You'll find the wild banshee type of girls
You'll also sometimes find a girl which seems to enjoy beeing together with you (at least she gives you the illusion )
-> Happy customers who will return

When I look at the good FKKs, most of the time you'll find the "Good Illusion" girls (don't forget the chemistry between the girl and you, that's a very important factor) and most of the time the prices in these clubs are slightly higher. Especially in the low price clubs with prices around 35 or 40 € per 20 minutes session, it should be obvious, that you cannot expect all bells and whistles when you are in the room with the girl. But, also in these clubs, I found sometimes very good girls and had a great time with them, but I think that'll only work for regulars.

In general you can say, paying a little more if you where satisfied with the girl or tell her that you have time and want to do more than the cheap standard session with her, you are on the winner side most of the time and get much better service. Some girls will start asking for other extras, that's the point you'll know, that you ran into a sales pitch

Some thoughts regarding the "I have plenty of money, I can pay everything" attitude of some Americans spending their time in German FKKs. If you are satisfied with a girl, give a little extra (a little extra does not mean double the price of the session). You'll ruin the prices. If you take a look at Rio, Thailand, Philipines, Jamaica, that has already happened in some places (not only because of Americans of course )

That's it for today!

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kaleu

[Kaleu]

BBBJ = Bare Back Blow Job = BJ without condom

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kaleu

[WindStar]

Jackson,

Thanks for you excellent explanation of FKKs. I would be very interested in knowing a bit more of the history of these establishments. Part of the reason I am asking is that I have experienced similar arrangements in New York, Florida and Rio, excepting that in those locations there is no "per girl" price. You simply pay the entrance fee and have all the sex you want (or can stand, as the case may be).

I am also interested in knowing a bit more about the "typical" girl at an FKK. In Rio and in New York they were, bluntly stated, "working girls." In Florida, however, they were big time nymphomaniacs -- "ordinary" women with EXCEPTIONAL sex appetites -- which is to say, MY kinda of gal!

By the way, the club in Florida (Ft. Lauderdale to be precise) no longer exists. It closed years ago. But it was also advertised as a "nudist" camp. I happened upon it entirely by accident. Perhaps the Floridians got the idea from the FKKs (or vice versa).

In any event, the girls there were very real people. With REAL jobs -- and, naturally, some of the hang-ups that come with the stress of holding down a "real" job. But they were, as a rule, very congenial and often quite interesting. Few if any "10s" but their personalties were a welcome relief from the "I'm a lady, I don't that" attitude. They just liked sex. Lots of it. More than any reasonable man has the right to expect, to be honest.

My offhand impression is that most of the girls in an FKK are closer to the girls I met in Rio. I've never been to a German FKK, but I have this "vision" of them as a chock full of very desperate Eastern European (Poles, Slavs, Russian -- with a sprinkling of European African, Asian and Latin "desparadas") ... looking for some relief from nigh certain poverty at home and a promise of a brighter Europe in Germany. Have you found that they have become dishearteningly cynical? Is that the kind of sex one is to expect? Or is it that the "unhurried" environment make you feel that can have more?

I'm curious about that, and would appreciate your response. Thanks.