FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[The Cane]

I don't ask girls what they will deliver. I don't call that part of the chemistry. Promises are worthless to me.

I call it trying to get value for my money. So, if I ask for BBBJ or anal or whatever and she says she does those things, then she darn well better deliver in full in the bed chamber. Unlike you, most of us here do care about getting what we "bargained" for in exchange for our hard earned income. Promises are worthless only if they are not kept! I'm fortunate enough to have had a lot of success worldwide selecting tutes who keep their word. My success rate is high, but we've all had bad experiences here and there. It's not all just about me either. I get steamed when I read about any of my fellow mongers getting "rooked" by a shifty "non-provider".

[Hessen Bub]

Always depends on the situation. There's aggressive girls grabbing your dick within 10 sec, at least they try to. Their fault if they get turned away. And there's guys (have seen that quite often) talking to girls for ages, touching them almost everywhere, grabbing their ass, tits, pussy. The girls accepts because she hopes to get booked. After 10min of free petting the guy turns her down. Don't say that was the case here.

The aggressive girls will be turned away by me very quickly. And if I don't want my dick to be grabbed, if I don't want to be touched or kissed or sucked by a girl she won't succeed.

HB

[Syzygies]

Well to let you all know I wasn't wasting her time. She was aggressive and came right up to me and sat down on me when I was on the couch. I figured I would see if we clicked and her roaming hands was not a nuisance. At the end I was on the fence with her and decided things were not clicking and said "maybe later".

Yeh this is a borderline case of who is at fault, but I would advise against "seeing where it goes" with pushy girls. They expect to win and don't like it when you are not convinced.

The stronger the girl comes on, the stronger the No, is my path. If she is very meek and polite, then I can be also.

I never indulge in any sex play or allow it if not committed to go to a room, just to play safe. If she should manage to get your dick in her mouth, you will be expected to pay for a session as technically sex has occurred.

[Syzygies]

Hell, these girls shouldn't make a lot of big promises that they then don't deliver on in the room either, but that happens all the time no? Oh, I guess that's always the monger's fault too right? He should have "screened" her better. Well, sometimes that's true.

If the girl made all sorts of promises at to what she would deliver, I would be put off her. I don't ask girls what they will deliver. I don't call that part of the chemistry. I might try to get a little kiss out of them in the lounge to see how they react. Promises are worthless to me.

What would I ask her?"Are you willing to forget completely that you are working and be my highly sexed girlfriend for an hour?" LOL.

Once in a while a girl can actually give that impression in the room. That is what I call a super session.

[Syzygies]

about the german men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. from what i understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. i believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with german men.

i am not sure i understand what is your point. i am often mistaken for being german by the girls. even german girls usually speak to me in deutsch and are surprised when i am not german. i will talk to a girl politely if she has a chance but i can be quite rude if she has no chance and she is persistent. maybe this causes girls to hassle me less.

many girls i discourage very easily by just failing to look at them and make eye contact. completely ignoring girls works amazingly well.

in free dude's terms i am probably very "dismissive" (unsociable) but like it doesn't matter how nice she can talk with me, if i am totally not interested. i never impose on the time of the girls. its just me. however if they want to spend time with me, and i am sure its not just to session again, i am fine with it. i have seen a customer yacking high speed english to the girl for an hour. did she understand it all? i don't know. was she enthralled or merely putting up with it till he took her to the room? i don't know. sure its up to girls to manage their time as they see fit, however some girls appear just a little too shy to be able to escape the pushy customer imposing on their time. they don't want to lose a good customer in some cases.

would they like to be making more money instead? i don't know. its a tough subject about how much free time girls should be giving their customers in the lounge, and it should be the girls' own choice. some girls are considered too business like. others are considered to be allowing guys to dominate them too much. pushy girls and those that can't take no for answer is another category all together.

i believe in spending time with girls when they are clearly not busy or not wishing to work. i also spend extended time with girls in the room. they like this as the clock is ticking. after the session the girl still has the option to hang with me if she wants to. really most are starting to look for another customer, but not all.

[Free Dude]

Well, it is not that one sided. There are plenty of girls who have complained to me about men being very dismisive and just saying 'NO! ' when a girl asks a question. Strange how some girls dislike being treated like a dog. I constantly have girls playing with my dick, but that's mostly when I tell them my dick is sleeping. I must admit I've become very good at not caring that a girl is playing with my dick.

In general I let the girls come to me and no matter what my intentions are, I don't mind chatting a bit. For any girl it will be pretty clear if I'm interested or not, but sometimes they don't care and if the conversation is fun I have been known to change my mind. These sessions will (without exception) be at the top of the scale. Sometimes there is just very little to do and girls just feel like chatting (for instance early in the day at Samya).

Syzygies, the problem with the World girl is that she is far too much fun outside the room and just doesn't start about doing more. Thusfar I've always been the one to suggest something; usually after realising how long the preliminaries had taken already.

[The Cane]

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some. Not for me though, I appreciate the efforts, but if I'm not interested, it's still quite difficult to shrug her off at that point, and sometimes they don't give up at that point. I would think if the girl starts off that way, they are pretty aggressive. You see this at times when men are relaxing and girls come and lay on you, and try it. It's especially wrong on their part if they do it in the relax area of a club, which I've seen many times.

I agree with you on this one. I'm just sick and tired of people defending the actions of the girls all the time like they're always the victims being taken advantage of or something. Most of them are there because they want to be. They chose to be there. And, I've had FKK girls reach for my jewels, slap my ass, say lascivious things, and more when I was just trying to relax. Some won't take no for an answer.

I'm not complaining about that aspect of it at all really (well, I don't like the ones who don't understand "no".) As a matter of fact, I rather enjoy the role reversal. But, these tutes are adults just like anybody else in the club. And if they decide to "risk" getting turned down after sticking their mitts inside of my robe and playing pocket pool, then that's on them. Now it's a fine line. A monger shouldn't lead a tute on either. And when has a monger done that? Well, all I can say is that we'll know it when we see it! But the point is that the girls have something to do with negative outcomes too. A lot to do with it!

Hell, these girls shouldn't make a lot of big promises that they then don't deliver on in the room either, but that happens all the time no? Oh, I guess that's always the monger's fault too right? He should have "screened" her better. Well, sometimes that's true. But sometimes it's not. The girl just didn't do her job. My point is that the girls have every bit as much to do with things that go wrong as the mongers do, and I'm tired of some here always trying to relieve the girls of the consequences of their own behavior. Mongers are somebody too!

I was reading in another country thread where a monger picked a tute up in a bar. She promised she would go with him to his hotel where he had already paid for a room, but then she had the taxi go somewhere else. To a love hotel where he had to pay like an extra $130 for the room! The monger was pissed, and I don't blame him. He could have backed out, but chose to stay. After they had completed a satisfactory session, the tute went to the bathroom. She left her purse unguarded. And what does the monger do? He swipes back the amount of money he had to pay for the room! Would I have done that? Absolutely not! But, I feel no sympathy for the tute either. Both her actions and those of the monger were wrong. And you see, there's no honor among thieves. What goes around comes around. So fuck her!

[FredZee]

That's surprising Syz, as it has happend to me when I was a newbie at FRA. Some will block my path and grab it. Highly likely it will happen at Palace. But, your point is taken. About the German men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. From what I understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. I believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with German men. That's based on me talking to a handful of Germans / Turks so you can take this with a grain of salt. Don't forget it's most likely tourists will show up at the FRA and girls will profile you. If this German man you talk about is merely wasting her time, yes, it's not right.

About wasting their time, it's relative as I've seen men playing board games with girls on the side. It's really their choice at times. They all have their agendas.

Well to let you all know I wasn't wasting her time. She was aggressive and came right up to me and sat down on me when I was on the couch. I figured I would see if we clicked and her roaming hands was not a nuisance. At the end I was on the fence with her and decided things were not clicking and said "maybe later". A weak way of saying "no" I realize. BTW, I am an American and not German as suggested above.

[PussyLiccker]

That's surprising Syz, as it has happend to me when I was a newbie at FRA. Some will block my path and grab it. Highly likely it will happen at Palace. But, your point is taken. About the German men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. From what I understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. I believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with German men. That's based on me talking to a handful of Germans / Turks so you can take this with a grain of salt. Don't forget it's most likely tourists will show up at the FRA and girls will profile you. If this German man you talk about is merely wasting her time, yes, it's not right.

About wasting their time, it's relative as I've seen men playing board games with girls on the side. It's really their choice at times. They all have their agendas.

[Syzygies]

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some.

In all my years at FKK, I never had a girl grab my dick under the towel, if I did not want her too. Its is not difficult to get away. Okay have had the odd girl sit or lie on me, but its very easy to tell them quickly that you are not in the mood right now and there is not going to be a session, before they waist their time.

I am honest and never lead girls on. I don't even like to sit with a girl for any length of time, unless about to session with her, for fear I could be spoiling her potential to get a customer. She can come to me for social chat when she wants after we already sessioned. I hate other guys who try to corral a girl after they already completed their session, so that she cannot be approached by other customers easily, as if to say "I own this girl". At World, I was contemplating being rude to the bald German guy and just going at the girl anyway, until he had to go to the toilet (I guess) LOL. It took me all of 5 seconds (or less) to swoop in and ask if she was in a booking and she was not. So we were off quickly. Fast action is needed for popular girls at times.

"Möchten sie ein bischen Gesellschaft?" (Would you like a little company?)"Nein Danke." is my normal reply, or "Mein Geld ist kaput" (no money left). I save "Später vielleicht" for when she really does have a chance later on.

On Oct 20, both SE and myself were chatting to Maria the Russian/Rom blonde bombshell from GT with the big titties, and we ended up taking her for consecutive bookings. Later left her alone more so she could get more business. Even though Roxanna is my favourite, she is a busy girl so I don't hang around her too much.

We have to sense when a girl is bored and would like some company and when she would like to make some money. If she goes after your dick, that is real obvious.

[PussyLiccker]

Why not tell the girl upfront that you won't go with her? Why let her play with your dick and waste her time? Maybe that's why she go upset. Just my 2cc.

HB

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some. Not for me though, I appreciate the efforts, but if I'm not interested, it's still quite difficult to shrug her off at that point, and sometimes they don't give up at that point. I would think if the girl starts off that way, they are pretty aggressive. You see this at times when men are relaxing and girls come and lay on you, and try it. It's especially wrong on their part if they do it in the relax area of a club, which I've seen many times.

[Hessen Bub]

AAt one point I was sitting on a couch an an ok looking Romanian girl sits right down onto my lap and decides to start playing with my package under my towel and sticks her finger into my mouth telling me we'd have a great time and we should get a room. Well, I let her go on for about 5 mins and I decide that this wasn't going to happen. I wasn't really into her as she was just not my cup of tea and I tell her perhaps later and she got very upset and walked off.

Why not tell the girl upfront that you won't go with her? Why let her play with your dick and waste her time? Maybe that's why she go upset. Just my 2cc.

HB

[Syzygies]

I head over to the bar and grab a drink and was really underwhelmed by the quality of the girls that are there. Given the reports that I have read it was a real let down. Perhaps it was an off Sunday on the 20th and given it was only 2pm I figured it would improve. I ended up going upstairs and taking in some hot tubbing to relax. Occasionally a girl or two would venture upstairs to see if there were any interested guys.

When you arrived, its possible the best 5 girls including Roxanna were busy already. You did not position yourself the best possible. The best girls do not need to go upstairs looking for men, unless it gets very quiet.

I hang out near where the girls get paid so I can pounce on the best girls when they come out of a session, or get hooked by them if you like. I can even recognise the girls as they arrive first up at reception. I often get to be Roxanna's first customer on a Sunday at maybe 1:30PM that way, as can recognise her in tracksuit even hooded up when she arrives due to body shape. She likes to get an immediate 1 hour session going. Beats hanging around wasting time. Typically by 1:50PM when you arrived she will be busy in a session with me or someone else.

Here are some of my reports about Sunday 20 October: (and one or two by Jr Simon):
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1486286
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1486287
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1486592
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1486634
Maria looks like this pic.

Some of us had a really good time that day and did not see anything wrong with the line-up. I have to wonder if its a completely different type you look for? Perhaps you like the Palace where there is no where to escape and the girls will hunt you. At Sharks, I like it to chase the girls instead of having them chase me.

[FredZee]

After my Oase visit on Saturday I was ready to start my Sunday with a visit to Sharks. Pulling into parking lot it was kind of odd as it is behind a car dealership and I parked where a number of other cars were. I was staying in Friedrichsdorf and it took me about 35min to get to Sharks just beating the 2pm cutoff for the discount entry of 40euros by 10mins. I got two towels and slippers and off to the locker room to get into "uniform" for the visit. Walking into the main area there is the big bar in the middle, the kitchen / dining area to the right as well as the entrance to the outdoor area, which was opened but given it was cold and gloomy outside, no one was out there. There are a number of couches off to the right and a staircase that leads upstairs to a pool and two hot tubs.

I head over to the bar and grab a drink and was really underwhelmed by the quality of the girls that are there. Given the reports that I have read it was a real let down. Perhaps it was an off Sunday on the 20th and given it was only 2pm I figured it would improve. I ended up going upstairs and taking in some hot tubbing to relax. Occasionally a girl or two would venture upstairs to see if there were any interested guys. At one point I was sitting on a couch an an ok looking Romanian girl sits right down onto my lap and decides to start playing with my package under my towel and sticks her finger into my mouth telling me we'd have a great time and we should get a room. Well, I let her go on for about 5 mins and I decide that this wasn't going to happen. I wasn't really into her as she was just not my cup of tea and I tell her perhaps later and she got very upset and walked off. I don't remember her name but nonetheless she just wasn't up to spec for me to spend 50euros on. I figured that the line up would improve and I could better spend my money.

Time moved on and by 5pm I the line up increased in numbers and there were a few that were of acceptable quality, gazelle level if you will, but I decided it was time to go back to the hotel. So, I change and I take off. Again, based on the previous reports of great Sundays, this was certainly not the case for me. In the 3 hours I was there I just wasn't in the mood given the line up that was there. Perhaps the line up improved later but I wasn't going to wait around for it. Well, for me a bust of a visit.

[Syzygies]

There's new photos of the girls on Sharks' homepage. You can identify Eva / Jessi, Helen / Michaela, Bianca / Aysha, Flora, Angel, Lea and others.

HB

Thanks HB: I can't exactly tell how pretty are the faces or the pussies though. Perhaps I am familiar with a few.

http://www.fkk-sharks.de/fkk-saunaclub#/fkk-girls