FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[StarletVoyager]

Basically right for me is a club with good atmosphere at least 50-60 girls say midweek on a Wednesday with at least a favourable proportion of those girls attractive enough to want to session with. Not all stunning just a nice handful. Can you or someone then tell me if sharks fits that criteria as explained? Many thanks voyager.

[PussyLiccker]

I will be in frankfurt in a few weeks where I will plan to do oase on Monday and Wednesday before catching the ice train to berlin to spend the weekend at artemis before flying home. I assume oase has the largest number of girls midweek but I have read good reports on sharks having not been there yet. Should I swap Wednesday oase for sharks or stick to what I know at oase. How many girls typically are on at sharks on a Wednesday for example and quality etc. Thanks for response. Oase is definitely pencilled for Monday. i only get out to germany 3 times a year so obviously want to get it right as i dont really have room for error as with regular club goers.

SV, I don't know what your definition of right is. Only way to find out if something is right is try witness it first hand yourself and decide for yourself what is right. What is right for others may not be right for you. For example, if you stick to the same clubs for years and think that is right. Maybe it is right, but if you keep asking about other clubs, you will never know if it is right unless you witness for your self. I think instead of having someone decide for you, you should check yourself. Do some research on previous reports on whatever you are curious about, and witness the results yourself and so that you can be sure and make a clear decision what is right for you.

[StarletVoyager]

I will be in Frankfurt in a few weeks where I will plan to do Oase on Monday and Wednesday before catching the ice train to Berlin to spend the weekend at artemis before flying home. I assume oase has the largest number of girls midweek but I have read good reports on Sharks having not been there yet. Should I swap Wednesday Oase for Sharks or stick to what I know at Oase. How many girls typically are on at Sharks on a Wednesday for example and quality etc. Thanks for response. Oase is definitely pencilled for Monday. i only get out to Germany 3 times a year so obviously want to get it right as i dont really have room for error as with regular club goers.

[The Cane]

I don't ask girls what they will deliver. I don't call that part of the chemistry. Promises are worthless to me.

I call it trying to get value for my money. So, if I ask for BBBJ or anal or whatever and she says she does those things, then she darn well better deliver in full in the bed chamber. Unlike you, most of us here do care about getting what we "bargained" for in exchange for our hard earned income. Promises are worthless only if they are not kept! I'm fortunate enough to have had a lot of success worldwide selecting tutes who keep their word. My success rate is high, but we've all had bad experiences here and there. It's not all just about me either. I get steamed when I read about any of my fellow mongers getting "rooked" by a shifty "non-provider".

[Hessen Bub]

Always depends on the situation. There's aggressive girls grabbing your dick within 10 sec, at least they try to. Their fault if they get turned away. And there's guys (have seen that quite often) talking to girls for ages, touching them almost everywhere, grabbing their ass, tits, pussy. The girls accepts because she hopes to get booked. After 10min of free petting the guy turns her down. Don't say that was the case here.

The aggressive girls will be turned away by me very quickly. And if I don't want my dick to be grabbed, if I don't want to be touched or kissed or sucked by a girl she won't succeed.

HB

[Syzygies]

Well to let you all know I wasn't wasting her time. She was aggressive and came right up to me and sat down on me when I was on the couch. I figured I would see if we clicked and her roaming hands was not a nuisance. At the end I was on the fence with her and decided things were not clicking and said "maybe later".

Yeh this is a borderline case of who is at fault, but I would advise against "seeing where it goes" with pushy girls. They expect to win and don't like it when you are not convinced.

The stronger the girl comes on, the stronger the No, is my path. If she is very meek and polite, then I can be also.

I never indulge in any sex play or allow it if not committed to go to a room, just to play safe. If she should manage to get your dick in her mouth, you will be expected to pay for a session as technically sex has occurred.

[Syzygies]

Hell, these girls shouldn't make a lot of big promises that they then don't deliver on in the room either, but that happens all the time no? Oh, I guess that's always the monger's fault too right? He should have "screened" her better. Well, sometimes that's true.

If the girl made all sorts of promises at to what she would deliver, I would be put off her. I don't ask girls what they will deliver. I don't call that part of the chemistry. I might try to get a little kiss out of them in the lounge to see how they react. Promises are worthless to me.

What would I ask her?"Are you willing to forget completely that you are working and be my highly sexed girlfriend for an hour?" LOL.

Once in a while a girl can actually give that impression in the room. That is what I call a super session.

[Syzygies]

about the german men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. from what i understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. i believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with german men.

i am not sure i understand what is your point. i am often mistaken for being german by the girls. even german girls usually speak to me in deutsch and are surprised when i am not german. i will talk to a girl politely if she has a chance but i can be quite rude if she has no chance and she is persistent. maybe this causes girls to hassle me less.

many girls i discourage very easily by just failing to look at them and make eye contact. completely ignoring girls works amazingly well.

in free dude's terms i am probably very "dismissive" (unsociable) but like it doesn't matter how nice she can talk with me, if i am totally not interested. i never impose on the time of the girls. its just me. however if they want to spend time with me, and i am sure its not just to session again, i am fine with it. i have seen a customer yacking high speed english to the girl for an hour. did she understand it all? i don't know. was she enthralled or merely putting up with it till he took her to the room? i don't know. sure its up to girls to manage their time as they see fit, however some girls appear just a little too shy to be able to escape the pushy customer imposing on their time. they don't want to lose a good customer in some cases.

would they like to be making more money instead? i don't know. its a tough subject about how much free time girls should be giving their customers in the lounge, and it should be the girls' own choice. some girls are considered too business like. others are considered to be allowing guys to dominate them too much. pushy girls and those that can't take no for answer is another category all together.

i believe in spending time with girls when they are clearly not busy or not wishing to work. i also spend extended time with girls in the room. they like this as the clock is ticking. after the session the girl still has the option to hang with me if she wants to. really most are starting to look for another customer, but not all.

[Free Dude]

Well, it is not that one sided. There are plenty of girls who have complained to me about men being very dismisive and just saying 'NO! ' when a girl asks a question. Strange how some girls dislike being treated like a dog. I constantly have girls playing with my dick, but that's mostly when I tell them my dick is sleeping. I must admit I've become very good at not caring that a girl is playing with my dick.

In general I let the girls come to me and no matter what my intentions are, I don't mind chatting a bit. For any girl it will be pretty clear if I'm interested or not, but sometimes they don't care and if the conversation is fun I have been known to change my mind. These sessions will (without exception) be at the top of the scale. Sometimes there is just very little to do and girls just feel like chatting (for instance early in the day at Samya).

Syzygies, the problem with the World girl is that she is far too much fun outside the room and just doesn't start about doing more. Thusfar I've always been the one to suggest something; usually after realising how long the preliminaries had taken already.

[The Cane]

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some. Not for me though, I appreciate the efforts, but if I'm not interested, it's still quite difficult to shrug her off at that point, and sometimes they don't give up at that point. I would think if the girl starts off that way, they are pretty aggressive. You see this at times when men are relaxing and girls come and lay on you, and try it. It's especially wrong on their part if they do it in the relax area of a club, which I've seen many times.

I agree with you on this one. I'm just sick and tired of people defending the actions of the girls all the time like they're always the victims being taken advantage of or something. Most of them are there because they want to be. They chose to be there. And, I've had FKK girls reach for my jewels, slap my ass, say lascivious things, and more when I was just trying to relax. Some won't take no for an answer.

I'm not complaining about that aspect of it at all really (well, I don't like the ones who don't understand "no".) As a matter of fact, I rather enjoy the role reversal. But, these tutes are adults just like anybody else in the club. And if they decide to "risk" getting turned down after sticking their mitts inside of my robe and playing pocket pool, then that's on them. Now it's a fine line. A monger shouldn't lead a tute on either. And when has a monger done that? Well, all I can say is that we'll know it when we see it! But the point is that the girls have something to do with negative outcomes too. A lot to do with it!

Hell, these girls shouldn't make a lot of big promises that they then don't deliver on in the room either, but that happens all the time no? Oh, I guess that's always the monger's fault too right? He should have "screened" her better. Well, sometimes that's true. But sometimes it's not. The girl just didn't do her job. My point is that the girls have every bit as much to do with things that go wrong as the mongers do, and I'm tired of some here always trying to relieve the girls of the consequences of their own behavior. Mongers are somebody too!

I was reading in another country thread where a monger picked a tute up in a bar. She promised she would go with him to his hotel where he had already paid for a room, but then she had the taxi go somewhere else. To a love hotel where he had to pay like an extra $130 for the room! The monger was pissed, and I don't blame him. He could have backed out, but chose to stay. After they had completed a satisfactory session, the tute went to the bathroom. She left her purse unguarded. And what does the monger do? He swipes back the amount of money he had to pay for the room! Would I have done that? Absolutely not! But, I feel no sympathy for the tute either. Both her actions and those of the monger were wrong. And you see, there's no honor among thieves. What goes around comes around. So fuck her!

[FredZee]

That's surprising Syz, as it has happend to me when I was a newbie at FRA. Some will block my path and grab it. Highly likely it will happen at Palace. But, your point is taken. About the German men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. From what I understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. I believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with German men. That's based on me talking to a handful of Germans / Turks so you can take this with a grain of salt. Don't forget it's most likely tourists will show up at the FRA and girls will profile you. If this German man you talk about is merely wasting her time, yes, it's not right.

About wasting their time, it's relative as I've seen men playing board games with girls on the side. It's really their choice at times. They all have their agendas.

Well to let you all know I wasn't wasting her time. She was aggressive and came right up to me and sat down on me when I was on the couch. I figured I would see if we clicked and her roaming hands was not a nuisance. At the end I was on the fence with her and decided things were not clicking and said "maybe later". A weak way of saying "no" I realize. BTW, I am an American and not German as suggested above.

[PussyLiccker]

That's surprising Syz, as it has happend to me when I was a newbie at FRA. Some will block my path and grab it. Highly likely it will happen at Palace. But, your point is taken. About the German men, they tend to like to spend a bit of time chatting with the girls before they make up their mind, but not all. From what I understand is most will go to the room if the girl spends some time with the girl. I believe the girls would know this and therefore, act in such a manner with German men. That's based on me talking to a handful of Germans / Turks so you can take this with a grain of salt. Don't forget it's most likely tourists will show up at the FRA and girls will profile you. If this German man you talk about is merely wasting her time, yes, it's not right.

About wasting their time, it's relative as I've seen men playing board games with girls on the side. It's really their choice at times. They all have their agendas.

[Syzygies]

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some.

In all my years at FKK, I never had a girl grab my dick under the towel, if I did not want her too. Its is not difficult to get away. Okay have had the odd girl sit or lie on me, but its very easy to tell them quickly that you are not in the mood right now and there is not going to be a session, before they waist their time.

I am honest and never lead girls on. I don't even like to sit with a girl for any length of time, unless about to session with her, for fear I could be spoiling her potential to get a customer. She can come to me for social chat when she wants after we already sessioned. I hate other guys who try to corral a girl after they already completed their session, so that she cannot be approached by other customers easily, as if to say "I own this girl". At World, I was contemplating being rude to the bald German guy and just going at the girl anyway, until he had to go to the toilet (I guess) LOL. It took me all of 5 seconds (or less) to swoop in and ask if she was in a booking and she was not. So we were off quickly. Fast action is needed for popular girls at times.

"Möchten sie ein bischen Gesellschaft?" (Would you like a little company?)"Nein Danke." is my normal reply, or "Mein Geld ist kaput" (no money left). I save "Später vielleicht" for when she really does have a chance later on.

On Oct 20, both SE and myself were chatting to Maria the Russian/Rom blonde bombshell from GT with the big titties, and we ended up taking her for consecutive bookings. Later left her alone more so she could get more business. Even though Roxanna is my favourite, she is a busy girl so I don't hang around her too much.

We have to sense when a girl is bored and would like some company and when she would like to make some money. If she goes after your dick, that is real obvious.

[PussyLiccker]

Why not tell the girl upfront that you won't go with her? Why let her play with your dick and waste her time? Maybe that's why she go upset. Just my 2cc.

HB

I see your point HB, he could have just waved her off right away, but some girls are rather aggressive, they come and start stroking before anything else which might be a nuisance for some. Not for me though, I appreciate the efforts, but if I'm not interested, it's still quite difficult to shrug her off at that point, and sometimes they don't give up at that point. I would think if the girl starts off that way, they are pretty aggressive. You see this at times when men are relaxing and girls come and lay on you, and try it. It's especially wrong on their part if they do it in the relax area of a club, which I've seen many times.

[Hessen Bub]

AAt one point I was sitting on a couch an an ok looking Romanian girl sits right down onto my lap and decides to start playing with my package under my towel and sticks her finger into my mouth telling me we'd have a great time and we should get a room. Well, I let her go on for about 5 mins and I decide that this wasn't going to happen. I wasn't really into her as she was just not my cup of tea and I tell her perhaps later and she got very upset and walked off.

Why not tell the girl upfront that you won't go with her? Why let her play with your dick and waste her time? Maybe that's why she go upset. Just my 2cc.

HB