Kyiv

[Climaxnow]

I usually give them H100 for taxi when I send them back. Should I do this or not?

One notable difference between this year and last on Mamba and Top Models was the agencies always tried to set a taxi charge before sending a girl. H100 was always agreed upon but they would start at some ridiculous amount like H300. After a few trolls and the loss of H300, I just gave up. I took any mention of taxi fee as a tell the agency had something I would probably reject.

I know this is against the spirit of the forum, but Kiev is changing fast. The nightclubs are drawing a younger weekend crowd from Western Europe and pushing out the older mongers. Other destinations have become more enticing for Ukraines prostitutes.

[Kiev Freak]

Hi Sorbonne, usually taxi fare is 50 uah. None of 6 girls doable? IMO you shouldn't be so selective. If they young, looks clean, not so fat, just do it. And order another. Better than nothing!

[Sorbonne]

I'm listening to some of you guys here and decided to give a try to top-modal. Com during daytime.

I don't think I have time for mamba so am going just with top-modals. Does mamba present any better chance than top-modals?

But so far I only called three agencies. Two yesterday and one today.

As liljoy suggested, I'm asking agents to send me three young and pretty girls at once, but so far all of them sent me only 2 girls each time. I guess its difficult for agents to gather three girls quickly.

So I've seen six girls so far and sent them all back. I'm waiting for two more girls right now. I have not given up just yet.

They usually come within one hour, so theoretically I can call like four agencies in one afternoon which I should really start doing. And have meals and run erands while waiting.

I usually give them H100 for taxi when I send them back. Should I do this or not?

[Sorbonne]

Hi. The website of ambrasura.

http://my-relax.net/salon/ambrazura/out_paid/

You have to call them and they give you address. They on top modals too if you serching in price of 800 grivnas. The plaice is in dead end road nearly zhitomiska staition, and picture of girls done in actually same building.

Has anybody tried this Ambrazura? I just called them but she didn't speak English.

I'm wondering if Sersem2007 is an agent there, as he posted only twice, both about Ambrazura.

[Kiev Freak]

Hi fellas.

I got many numbers from mamba but I am confused because only very few girls talked about money. Others talk about to meet in cafe and I think they are normal girls. I want to invite girls directly to my apartment. Because only 2 days I will stay in Kiev and if I meet them in cafe it consumes too much time to see which one is p4p and which is not.

Summary of why message in mamba "you are very beautiful. We can meet and spend time together? I am a very generous man" Of course, in Russian. I afraid to talk more open about $ because mamba blocks me. I got maybe 50 numbers in few days. But only 6-7 of them accepted p4p. Others didn't. This ratio is good? I am digging hard into mamba. But finding p4p is not easy really? When I choose "looking for sponsor" option , only few online girls appears. Others seems like offline for weeks or even months. So I make un-selected "looking for sponsor" and "sex" options.

What is your ways to find semi pros easier? Directly ask really 100 $/h? Mamba don't block you?

[Kiev Freak]

Some girls have very normal profile anything emphasise p4p but theyare semi pro. I mean they don't write look for sex or sponsor. Photos are normal. Look for age e. G. 20-35. All normal. But she is semi. There are many profile likes this. So if we narrow search by choosing " look for sponsor" or "sex" option, we lose many semi pro profiles as well. So I contact with girls normally, but semipros will ultimately ask you "what I will get from this".

i found this travel box for safety

[TexasMorrell]

When I ask directly by your way, mamba blocked my account. This is happening me 3rd time. So I am making it very careful. Because I don't want to blocked again.

When you look for girls, you choose "I want to find a sponsor"?

Well they have not blocked my account. Yes I look for the sponsor quote but its not necessary. If it is a 20 year old and she is willing to date a guy all the way to 60 years old that is a good sign she is working. Mainly if I like her photos I message her. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[LilJoey]

I believe that going to Kiev without doing homework in mamba is a very big risk because you can stay alone in daytime. Mamba blocked my ip address also. But activated my account again. I will never understand them.

I think you are right about the importance of mamba for mongering in Kiev, as all the most seasoned veterans have written that it is one of the best ways to meet a lot of girls in Kiev willing to date you, either for p4p, or for regular dates. However, it is an exaggeration to say that you must remain alone during the daytime if you don't have a good list of contacts from mamba girls. Although not as good for semi-pro type girls, there are many listings of escort girls on the Internet escort websites that you can call during the day. Also there are the girl apartments / brothels you can go to with an English speaking taxi driver (if you can find one) who knows where they are located and is willing to help you with translation and security for a fee or tip. So I don't think you would necessarily be alone, as there are these other agency outcall options. But mamba is very useful for finding independent p4p escort girls, and semi-pro type girls looking for a little sponsorship.

[LilJoey]

I usually used kievinn so far but it is extremely expensive now and I decided to use another. But most flats don't have a safe box. How and where you keep your money when you have company? I always used safe box flats now suprisingly I couldn't find a flat with safe box easily.

Safety of money whike visitors are in your apartment is one reason why I do not keep a lot of cash in my possession at my apartment. I withdraw funds from an ATM each day, or just before going somewhere that might entail significant expense, like a nightclub or strip club. I withdraw only what I think will be sufficient for what I might want to do that evening. For example, if I am going out to a supermarket for shopping, I won't be carrying more than $100 or $200 in grivna because I don't anticipate spending anywhere near that much at the supermarket, and I can also use a credit card to pay also. Or for example, I am going out to Rio strip club having in mind that I might take out a girl from there which costs $300 for 3 hours, and $400 for an all night date (at least that was the max until recently). So just before going to Rio I will take out from the ATM the equivalent of about $500, as I don't believe it could cost me more than that for everything, including entrance fee, drinks, private dances and take out fee, and taxi to my apartment. Now when I am going to have a girl come into my apartment, since I can't always be looking and watching her, I take all my cash that is excess of her fee, and I lock it into my suitcase with a combination travel lock. I leave in my pants pocket only the agreed amount of her fee, plus a little extra in case she asks for taxi money. And I try to keep an eye on things as best I can. I have never had a loss, with these simple security precautions.

[Kiev Freak]

KV I think you are making this more difficult then it has to be. I have a very long list of Mamba girls and I found them with one simple phrase.

"$75 for 1 hour?" or "$ 75 &1079; &1072; 1 &1095; &1072; &1089;?"

That is all you need to say, nothing else. If she is interested she will message you back and say ok or no she wants $100.

Worst case you get a "fuck you" or you get no reply at all. Who cares?

And all my girls are semi-pro college girls with verified photos and email or Skype or phone numbers. I tell them to email me this stuff to verify they are real. If they do not it means you are looking at a fake salon profile and you do not know what you are going to get.

When I ask directly by your way, mamba blocked my account. This is happening me 3rd time. so I am making it very careful. Because I don't want to blocked again.

When you look for girls, you choose "i want to find a sponsor" ?

[Kiev Freak]

I usually used kievinn so far but it is extremely expensive now and I decided to use another. But most flats don't have a safe box. How and where you keep your money when you have company? I always used safe box flats now suprisingly I couldn't find a flat with safe box easily.

[TexasMorrell]

Now again chasing in mamba, but my first message I dotn talk about financial support. This make all good I hope. I also copied my contacts and also opened 2 fake mamba account as back up. I am doing my best to dig mamba.

KV,

I think you are making this more difficult then it has to be. I have a very long list of Mamba girls and I found them with one simple phrase.

"$75 for 1 hour?" or "$ 75 &1079; &1072; 1 &1095; &1072; &1089;?"

That is all you need to say, nothing else. If she is interested she will message you back and say ok or no she wants $100.

Worst case you get a "fuck you" or you get no reply at all. Who cares?

And all my girls are semi-pro college girls with verified photos and email or Skype or phone numbers. I tell them to email me this stuff to verify they are real. If they do not it means you are looking at a fake salon profile and you do not know what you are going to get.

[Kiev Freak]

Now again chasing in mamba, but my first message I dotn talk about financial support. This make all good I hope. I also copied my contacts and also opened 2 fake mamba account as back up. I am doing my best to dig mamba.

[Kiev Freak]

I believe that going to Kiev without doing homework in mamba is a very big risk because you can stay alone in daytime. Mamba blocked my ip address also. But activated my account again. I will never understand them.

[Tomux 22]

I hate the damned mamba. How I will meet with girls if I don't send message? Even facebook is not so strict. This is a ripoff! I lost many contacts who I worked for 2 weeks. I sent emails to support team but no answer. I hate this situation. Options are already limited by mamba and 3-4 night clubs and several strip clubs in Kiev. Now I lost the mamba edge with many contacts. Damage is big

Bad luck. I always try to get skype details or phone nr and use whatsup. This helps me to feel them out better and not to metion perfect for semi pros. Since once in a while they will write,"things not good, little money".